Sup Forums what the fuck is with the negativity in the world. Why the fuck is everyone on Sup Forums...

Sup Forums what the fuck is with the negativity in the world. Why the fuck is everyone on Sup Forums, Reddit and Tumblr so fucked up as soon as their given the anonymity. My real question is if you have the choice between being positive and negative, why are you negative?

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Clearly because it’s fun

Have you ever visited earth before?

Why can't you just look at the position you're given both ways?

Is being fun being negative?

Life is a game.

Sometimes it isn't about winning the game.

It's about making sure everyone else loses.

>why are you negative?
>what is roleplay

>sometimes it isn't about winning the game.
If everyone else loses you've won, therefore about winning the game?

Look at the world today and tell me the pleasures of sanity

Exactly, I look around and I see all this negativity, it's insane!

Wow that was grim. I feel bad. But also kinda lewd.

No one will be negative to you if youre nice.

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Not necessarily true. Lets say you got to have 5 of something to win, but you know you can't get those 5 of said something, now you just make sure nobody else could be able to get those 5 either.

If everyone losing is the same as everyone winning, just a level down from where you could of been :)

*****

this guy gets it.

>why are these people fucked up when given anonymity?
Because deep down humans are just that, self hating assholes. Sup Forums is the worst tho, because if it's almost pure anonymity. Because of that the worst is brought out, deep desires and prejudice, hate and anger, truly fucked up shit. And society looks at this site and fears it, they fear Sup Forums because it shows people who humans really are, and it threatens society's existence. You ask what is with all the negativity, it's human nature that's why.

You are in the wrong place faggot
Get out before it's too late

i dont know whats wrong with me

I want to like people, and I empathize with literally everyone, but maybe I'm just autistic or something they always end up disliking me. I think this is mostly due to me not talking to anyone for almost my entire school career since moving a few times and my parents got divorced in elementary school.

I say, fuck you all

Dubs of deceit.

Must be nice to look at the world in such muted shades of innocence.

How have you maintained that here?

I kind of really love you

>Because deep down humans are just that, self hating assholes
by choice, theres always many sides to a situation, you have the choice to take it positively or negatively, to be positive or negative.
>And society looks at this site and fears i
edgy dude, not sure whats worse this sentence or me replying to a a 14yo

That was funny xd

I've been on Sup Forums for 5 years is it too late?

What do you mean ? By both ways

Did you hear about No Game No life ?

Yea feels man, could definitely be from a lack of socialising, which can spiral worse and worse. Never too late to change.

Witch is truly shot to think about

I mean think about this, sure human nature can be circumstantial. But when it comes down to it and your life is on the line and you have to do something evil to survive, say cannibalism for fear of starvation. People fucking do it. Deep down we all have a limit to the compassion we show and the empathy we pretend to feel, when the time comes all that blows away like so much dust in the wind.

Now of course there are special cases, heroic idealistic fools that would sacrifice their own well being before they allow themselves to sink to such a base animalistic rationale.

But they are the exception

Not the rule.

I wouldn't say innocence, I'm fully aware of what is the world around me and this site. Just a choice to see the positivity and not the negativity, and practice on that to change myself.

I love you too user

You're zero, but with consciousness, you can chose a positive path or a negative one

Exactly you just gave me an example of a choice. What's stopping me you from being the exception but a choice. Even in the extremes you have the choice. I'm not saying I would be the exception, but there is a choice. Also somewhat eating a already dead human to survive is still better than both of them dying (a morbid glass half full thought maybe)

Strangers passing in the street
By chance two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me
And do I take you by the hand
And lead you through the land
And help me understand the best I can

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>choice

Dude, Life is a roller-coaster. Everyone has their own. Some more so than others. If you're being real with yourself and others, you're going to feel a broad range of emotions in your life, but society is based on commerce and exchange, which require good faith and negotiation, which means we have to ignore our feelings to communicate effectively most of the time in our versions of societies. This doesn't make the other feelings go away, it, in fact, will amplify them and they will vent through the path of least resistance. That can be anything from acting out, to being abusive. It's natural.

tl:dr It's natural. And natural doesn't automatically mean good. Nature is murder, misdirection, deceit, theft, and danger, but nature is also love, life, truth, and happiness.

The challenge is to control yourself. To find balance.

And no one called us to the land
And no one crosses there alive
No one speaks and no one tries
No one flies around the sun

Trolling the shit out of crazy left wing retards is not negative, it's entertaining as fuck lol

tru

>doesn't make the other feelings go away
Agree
>will amplify them and they will vent through the path of least resistance
if you allow them, as a human you are in control separating you from animalistic behaviour
>The challenge is to control yourself. To find balance.
Exactly, make the choice to control yourself. Thanks user for the overall positive reply

Don't forget that your model of behavior isn't reality. Saying things are either positive or negative isn't really the whole of it, it's just a model you use to understand the world around you and frame it in a way you can process and reason with it.

"I love shit" is a positive statement. "I hate evil" is a negative one. Remember that. It isn't all black and white. You must choose carefully.

Sometimes negativity is the only reasonable and logical choice when faced with a tide of bullshit. You're not going to make everyone happy all the time, because some people will hate you for existing, so move with the ebb and flow. Hate what should be hated, and love what should be loved.

Yea admittedly it is extremely subjective, but there are ways to find objectivity. A good definition of something positive could be to base it on the reaction of the variable i.e. I love you to the girl who loves you back would be a positive reaction, I love you to the girl you've been stalking and who does not would give a negative reaction (girl being the variable, you being the constant). This could involve a learning curve for some

>Hate what should be hated, and love what should be loved
Yea agree, but there just seems to be so much more hate to hate than love to love
on the internet and I wonder why

You're way off the mark. You talk about objectivity, when your examples are purely subjective and theoretically at that. The fact of the matter is that we have a range of emotions for a reason. It's because we have to. It's because it's what works.

It doesn't matter what you say, sometimes, and fundamentally we're talking about feelings, not words.

There's as much of both. What we're seeing is a reaction to a sea of bullshit. Kids are growing up watching what's happeneing and they learn.

They see ugly people being called pretty. They see black being called white, and evil good to not hurt people's feelings. Well, that doesn't sit will with someone who thinks and reasons. The lies build up and resistance grows. People are taught positive lies, and told that negativity is bad. Well, how are you ever supposed to find the truth when it's hidden in negativity and lies are covered in pretty falsehoods?

Think about it. Hate has its place. Uncontrolled love is just as bad or worse than uncontrolled hate. You can kill someone with love just as much as you can kill them with hate.

this

Let me give you an example, son.

You know what cancer is, right? It's not some foreign invasion. It's your own human cells. Human cells like your brain cells, your heart cells, your skin cells, etc. The cancer is genetically human. It's borne from your own living system of cells. The cancer is human.

Does that mean you coddle it? Care for it? At the expense of the rest of the system? No, you must make a choice. You must recognize what is good and bad and apply your feelings appropriately.

All cells are not created equal. And they should not be treated equally. Just like people.

what I mean is an objective way to 'act positively' could be to base it off the subjective reaction of someone else. So yes I am talking about the feelings you give to others through your words. If they react negatively than what you said IS negative, if they react positively than what you said IS positive, That is objectivity via this definition.

Be a good boy and shove your prick in a coke bottle!

No, it's subjective because you can't control or know someone's emotional reaction, and their reaction will vary dramatically, even to the same stimulus, based on their state of mind, which, again, you can't know, unless you imagine yourself a telepath, too.

if all cells are treated equal you would end up with a broken system this is so because it works

Right, my very point is that cells are not equal, and it's an illusion of perception to imagine that it's good to treat them that way.

The truth will set you free I guess. I'd agree a more honest world would be a more positive one. You might not be able to find the truth but you could definitely help others find it by being as honest as possible!

I think you're missing the forest for the trees, dude.

Negativity isn't automatically bad and positivity isn't automatically good. Whoever says that is a liar and a cheat, and trying to sell you on some bullshit.

They are both good and evil based on how they are used. You can sell evil very positively, and it often is, and you can denigrate good in negativity, and it often is.

Honesty is negative as fuck, dude, and we need more of it. Think about it. Really think about it. Why would people lying and manipulating you want you to feel negative? They don't, they want you to feel good while they rob you blind and fuck you in the ass. Beware. The truth is very negative sometimes, and it's what we need.

Agree, but the only reason cancer is bad is because it acts negatively to the rest of your cells by attacking them not the other way around. If cancer strengthened the other cells you would coddle and care for it because it is doing a positive thing. People unlike cancer have a conscious choice to act positively or negatively.

I'm about to give up on you because you're missing reality for your little binary model of emotions.

Not a telepath just empathy. This is what I mean about a learning curve, it's harder for autistic kids on Sup Forums to learn this than to say a healthy socialised kid.

no, dude, you imagine others have the same emotional system as you do, and when you "empathize" all you're doing is putting yourself in their shoes, which is great, but it's just a model based on your understanding of yourself, not of them.

Not a bad question but you need to expand your PoV. Some ppl have suffered so much that being negative comes out naturally, they arent constantly and consciously choosing to be negative.

How old are you, to ask a question like this?

If the truth is negative but it is what you need doesn't that turn it into a positive ?
> You can sell evil very positively
An example of manipulation, and if it is evil your selling it will be an overall negative outcome even if it sounded positive to begin with.

In life, nobody wins or loses since everybody dies and life has no matter.
People being negative towards others are just blocking their own negativity so they do not have to realize what a piece of shit they are.
Living positive makes you happy and negative people are sad in the inside.
They are just good not to show it, especially on the internet :))))

Only positive isn't possible tho, but my guess would be if you go out and leave the pc of you will only see positivity, because people who live their life are often happy and they do not waste time on Sup Forums

This is retarded. Life and vidya are different things. Go the fuck outside and visit a coffee shop. Those people have a job and a reason for living. You clearly don’t so ya better get makin dem lose! They clearly need to lose so when you drag your whalelord ass home and feel less like an absolute fucking failiure.

The people who have a positive outlook and are not secretly sick fucks (tm) don't need anonymity.

>the game

>you just lost it

>you imagine others have the same emotional system as you do, and when you "empathize" all you're doing is putting yourself in their shoes
Yea so you should do this before you 'act', and will help you overall act positively or negatively. However you can't know for sure how they will react of course because as you said it's based on an understanding of yourself, if you are wrong and they do react negatively (their subjective) you can learn for the future thus making yourself empathise better i.e a learning curve. This is all if you define positivity and negativity on someones subjective reaction

Dude, grow up, you aren't an omnipotent mind reader. What the fuck are you seriously imagining, here? Don't you see that you can't see beyond your perceptions? You can tell someone the sky is a limitless expanse full of billions of other suns flying through space, and someone will still tell you you're full of lies and it's just a black canvas pricked with light.

The best course of action is to stay in reality. Most people prefer fantasy, which is why most people are severely allergic to the truth and real honesty. Forget about how people perceive you, focus on REALITY, and part of that reality is treating the simpler people like children. Like if I knew you in real life, I wouldn't have this talk with you, I'd say "mhmm" and let you believe whatever dumb nonsense you want for you to leave me alone, and let someone else try to explain it to you.

22 man

those are just the retards who weren't raised with an anonymous outlet(the internet) and therefore have not adjusted to it's traps. they're just fucking noobs man. the vast majority of there actions on the internet have been attached to there real identity via social media(anyone with life long experience on the net would be able to tell you this is usually a bad idea outside of real life appearances), so once they get a taste of anonymous action, they get overwhelmed with the possibilities and go hogwild and fuck it all up. For internet veterans, this was the 90s early 2000s. Human behaviour will naturally balance itself out in the realm of anonymity, the noobs eventually being properly mocked into anonymous behavior that may actually get something done.

Suffering may make negativity come out more naturally, but humans have a choice to go against what comes naturally through consciousness some may just find it more difficult than others yea

>negative post

Ok...... dude.... ffs.... Again....

The first thing you really need understand is that negativity isn't bad and positivity isn't good. Reality simply is not that simple.

Untrue and retarded.

Couldn't agree more :)

dont you love it when randoms expect you to educate them?

Personally I try to stay quite neutral online and honest because I don't enjoy lying

Tbh we are all negative this is just an escape from all the real bullshit and be free and say what we want and ask for opinions i dont see the bad in being negative here i mean thats what its ment for, get some sleep original poster youre just turning into a gay little bitch

okay yea poor definitions make it harder

Because sometimes user people cant handle reality and cuck themselves by being pussies. Idgaf about being negative.

yea fair

Trying to become less frustrated themselves

I agree with this
and this

If you always try to tailor what you say based on someone's reaction to it, that makes you a liar and a cheat.

Think about it. People who do harm and evil don't want it pointed out. Someone who just robbed your friend isn't going to like to hear that they're a thief and should give back what they stole. It'll make them upset to hear that. It'll make them upset to return the item, too, but they must, regardless of what the fuck they think.

You see, dude, everything has its place. Negativity isn't any worse than positivity. They are all fundamentally, only tools, subject to our will and intent