Is this team the ultimate peak of how well a sports team can do?
Across all sports, especially association football, a well run team is key to winning and few teams are able to structure a balanced team to do that. Barceona is going down the shitter, Halal Madrid gets by on bribing UEFA and RFEF. Bayern is pretty well run, but always choke. English teams are slaves to foreign players who want money.
No other NFL team seems to be able to draft properly and do well in the free agency either. The best NBA teams have some superstar player that carries the whole team, not neccesarely a skilled front office.
So are the Patriots the ultimate sports team in terms of talent on the field and competence in the front office? Sure, Brady is the GOAT but they also have talented players on both sides of the ball. And none of them are divas that create problems for the team unlike other teams in the league. Nothing they do seem to backfire and they've only gotten better every year.
Leo Rodriguez
At least in my 21 years of life I can't think of a team that has come close
Sebastian Walker
18-1 (eighteen wins, one loss)
Joseph Bell
>le epic hourly patriots jerkoff thread fuck off bandwagon losers, you are the ultimate cuckolds
Logan Ross
barcelona takes a shit on them, the equivalent of winning 6 of the last 8 superbowls
Julian Myers
Why are you so buttmad about being a (Jets/Gnats/Failcons) fan
Logan Barnes
Could be argued that the San Antonio Spurs are/have been very similar looking at the last 20 years.
Gavin Cook
>they have talented players on both sides of the ball
Wyatt Bennett
That would be Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson. A solid core of academy players as well as some quality foreign players. Whenever a player got too big for their boots (like Beckham), SAF sold him. Also NFL teams only have to compete in one competition. United under SAF managed to succeed in multiple competitions at the same time.
Lincoln Moore
the Spurs under pop and the pats under bellichek are the two greatest franchises in American sports history
Henry James
nope. 90's bulls are the best franchise and nobody will ever come close. not even brady has the capabilities to pull off two three peats.
Easton Adams
t. Salty Moor rape babby that thinks soccer is relevant
Blake Anderson
>Offense Brady Gronkowski Edelman Cooks now too
>Defense McCourty Hightower Butler Flowers? Gilmore now too
>ST Gostkowski Slater
Yup, top shelf talent in all 3 phases of the game. The only place you could really say they are lacking is offensive line, but Scarnecchia is the best OL coach in the NFL and he gets the most out of his players.
Logan Jackson
Why would a Giants fan be butthurt about beating Brady in the super bowl twice?
Jackson Lopez
sorry if I crushed your hopes and dreams, should have included a 'trigger warning' for your thin amerilard skin
Robert Jenkins
I don't follow Baseball but when I was younger I heard that the Yankee's always win.
Patriots are the best team in Football, with that said they would not have as many super bowl wins/appearances if they were in the nfc. When playing good teams luck plays a role and the Patriots would have to play more great teams just to make it to the superbowl in the nfc.
What team has been the second best team in football over the past few years?
Nathan Perry
except the NFL actually has parity
Nolan Ortiz
But those leagues have no salary caps, and both Barcelona and Man United were among the richest teams in their leagues (with Man United becoming the richest by a mile not long after SAF's initial successes, allowing for more successes).
The NFL has a hard salary cap, no team has any real financial advantage over others (although teams in desirable cities have a boost over others when it comes to free agents). For the Patriots to reach 7 Super Bowls and win 5 in just 16 years is insane.
Carter Fisher
Turns out it's really easy to win a lot when you cheat.
Jaxson Kelly
>with that said they would not have as many super bowl wins/appearances if they were in the nfc.
Lol, you're full of shit. Four of the past 5 champions have been from the afc.
Gabriel Gray
>with Man United becoming the richest by a mile not long after SAF's initial successes, allowing for more successes.
Allowing for success, but never ever guaranteeing it. Man United were never alone in having considerable financial privilege.
Jonathan Robinson
>When playing good teams luck plays a role and the Patriots would have to play more great teams just to make it to the superbowl in the nfc.
What the hell are you talking about? The AFC has been stacked for most of the Patriots' dynasty era. Manning's Colts, the Steelers, Manning's Broncos, the Ravens...all won the Super Bowl and reached it multiple times. There were also solid teams like the Chargers.
True, but they were consistently head and shoulders above almost the entire league financially. Throughout SAF's time in charge (except maybe the very beginning), there were never more than 3 teams on Man United's level financially (Liverpool/Arsenal, then Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea, then Chelsea/Man City, etc.).
Joshua Price
Having a smart owner and competent general manager and head coach is considered cheating now?
Wyatt Wood
No filming games about 10 yards down from where the league tells you to film is cheating now.
Jeremiah Cruz
Damn.
Well since the league put a stop to that almost ten years ago it's a real shame how the Patriots have stumbled and never really regained the success they had
oh..
Leo Thomas
>have the greatest player of all time in a sport where a single star player has more impact than any other sport and parity is non-existent >win a bunch of championships
Really makes you drink...
Andrew Diaz
This argument is beyond retarded. It's not 1995 anymore, the AFC was/is the best conference in football since Brady/Belichick. >Patriots: 5 Superbowls >Manning-lead Colts/Broncos: 2 Superbowls >Steelers: 2 Superbowls
The only team in that time frame in the NFC that has more than 1 are the fucking Gnats who haven't won a playoff game in 7 years.
And yes, consistently having to play a first ballot HOF QB in your playoffs is more difficult than beating the NFC meme team of the year.
Sebastian Stewart
then where are lebron's three-peats? that's right, he doesn't have any, because he spent most of his career on a bottom feeding franchise.
Easton Kelly
Lebron isn't the player Jordan was
Also, LeBron has made it to 7 straight NBA finals so that's pretty fucking impressive.
Caleb Rodriguez
>6 seasons with the goat is comparable to 2 full decades of dominance with an ever changing roster of role players performing twice as well as they did before/do after they leave the team The 90's bulls were great but not because the entire organization was so welt built and maintained
Owen White
if you have to keep bringing up something from a decade ago you're probably salty
Nathan Lee
The Bulls had the GOAT for 13 seasons, they won 6 titles.
Kayden Ortiz
2008 and 2012 were both less than a decade ago
James Gray
They only dominated the league for those 6 seasons. The Spurs have been title contenders every year since Duncan was drafted. This is because they have, inarguably, the best head coach, gm, and front office in the history of the nba. Their system gets the absolute best out of every player and that's why they're always so dangerous
Camden Campbell
he is the jordan of his era, when you compare his skillset to 95% of the league. and despite that he doesn't have the credentials. he watched finely tuned machines like the spurs and lakers win championships.
Alexander Mitchell
>parity
Stop using words you dont understand
Matthew Wood
Lebron's a very different player from Jordan, their only real similarity is that they're the best of their respective generations. The Jordan of this era was Kobe, who was basically Jordan Lite. Nowadays I would say it's Westbrook, who's like Imitation Flavor Jordan.
Owen Rodriguez
Lol. Confirmed idiot. The AFC has been better than the NFC since the start of the 2000s. There are statistical win/liss numbers to back that up. You have no idea what you are talking about and you should stop before you make yourself look any dumber.