>he thinks God is real
He thinks God is real
Adam Smith
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Xavier Edwards
>he doesn't realize that the second law of thermodynamics necessitates an entity ordering the universe in the first place
Ethan Turner
This is the problem with atheists. They never give a good reason not to hold any thelogically-bound philosophy or morality. It's always "well gods not real so".
Utterly weak argument.
Christian Butler
this.
also, fuck atheists. materialism has been debunked as well, which pretty much implies a theist universe. get fucked, fedora cucks.
Michael Brooks
>not realising "I think therefore I am" can just as easily be used as a proof of God as a proof of self consciousness
Connor Baker
>thelogically
Back to school with you.
Jack Baker
Not an argument.
Gabriel Parker
No it isn't. You need to provide proof for a belief. Atheism is a lack of belief. You're asking atheists to do your job basically.
Go read The God Delusion. He addresses this fallacy quite clearly.
Luis Reed
Why don't you address it instead of trying to assign homework?
Thomas King
If science can prove that god doesn't exist, so be it.
Humans always seeks the truth.
Dylan Cooper
>He has abandoned God
I will pray for your soul, user.
Dylan Moore
Are atheists without moral standard, then? Are they all psycopathic nihilist anarchists? Atheism is the disbelief in theology and theological teaching- and by extension, god- not "belief" in general, it's in the name for fucks sake. And yet seldom do I see an atheist attack the teachings themselves
Easton Jackson
>Dumb bitches trying to tempt my Faith.
Away with you, Satan!
Wyatt Roberts
Dawkins can clear it up better than I can.
It is up to the individual atheist to decide what their morality is. We are not a collective. The only thing we have in common is a disbelief of god claims. Some are very positive about life and assert that life has an objective morality (like Matt Dillahunty). I, as an atheist, disagree with him quite strongly.
I don't get what you're trying to say by not belief in general. We do reject the claims. The claims lead to belief. Theists do believe in God. We reject that. What do you want me to attack?
Angel Bennett
>Unironically discussing theology on a Japanese cartoon forum
Bentley Gomez
god never existed it's just a bullshit fantasies story for grown ups to care something about there meaningless life.
Isaac Green
>Dawkins can clear it up better than I can.
A 5 year old could outwit Dawkins. He contributes nothing to the conversation.
Easton Cook
Find me an atheist faggot that prophecised, in fucking 1300, that people IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE 20th CENTURY would be degenerate.
I will be waiting
Hudson Diaz
Yeah, the two slit experiment doesn't prove shit. Matter doesn't behave differently because of your mind, it is the influence of the measuring device which influences it. Your consciousness does not extend outside your body.
Austin Green
Is atheism even real?
Can an atheist even prove to me entirely empirically that atheism has physical, material existence?
I'll wait. Until then I'll have to refuse to believe that atheism exists.
Xavier Bell
>it is the influence of the measuring device which influences it.
Except the measuring device changes the measurement based on your predictions. Basically even if you don't observe the particles/waves, they behave exactly like you expect them to based on your expcectations about the way the experiment is set up.
So no, you are wrong
Julian Hernandez
I do not think or believe that some ultra natural entity is going to intervene in my life.
Connor Kelly
>Go read my holy book written by the Prophet Dawkins
Evan Price
>god
created the universe
>athiest neets
created computers to watch gay porn
top kek devil worshiping cucklords
Xavier Taylor
they are under the delusion that their way of thinking is "the standard", and that believing in God is a deviation from that standard. So they will tell you "disbelief" is a passive role and not an active one. Pure delusion.
Hunter Scott
>he accidentaly switched tabs from reddit to Sup Forums
Elijah Davis
...
Justin James
amen brother. i'll save you a nice seat in hell, you protestant homosexual
Bentley Brooks
Yeah he does. Look, it is easy to just attack the man. What you should be attacking is his argument. But you don't. Tells me a lot about you and also the quality of his argument.
If you are a theist then theoretically your job is extremely easy. Present evidence of your claim and if successful you will convert every skeptical thinker on the planet.
Justin Barnes
*tips menorah*
Ayden James
It's funny isnt it
"If god is real show me a miracle"
*links to a host of proven and approved miracles and marian apparations like Aikra*
"That's fake"
*link to stories about women lifting cars to save children*
"muh natural inhibitors"
*link to countless stories of people beeing healed*
"g-g-god doesnt real, doctors must have been wrong"
If it wasnt scriptural it would bring me to despair
Mathew 25:29
For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.
Connor Morgan
>be religious
>find that science requires an unknown quantity to make sense
>hurriedly fill in god, contratulate self for proving his existence
>god looks down on in disgust and revulsion at the weakness of your faith
trying to prove that god exists just proves you don't believe
Benjamin Phillips
Even if that matters. Why don't you use your mind to turn water into wine or sand into food then? At this point in your reasoning, experimentation is pointless.
Carson Brooks
believing the entropic jew
Caleb Cook
>he doesn't realize that to believe his shitty religion, he has to trust that Jews were telling the truth in their holy book
Christopher Russell
...
William Wright
>Atheism is a lack of belief
What do you think is so inherently justifiable about a lack of belief?
Do you go around proudly proclaiming your lack of morality, your lack of decency, your lack of kindness, your lack of regard for your community, and your lack of love for anything aside from yourself?
Oh wait silly me - of course you do.
You're an "atheist" after all.
Isaiah Mitchell
It is the default until someone gives you a personal, conscious, intervening, cosmological explanation.
Evan Lewis
>prove to me entirely empirically that atheism has physical, material existence
This is a dumb fucking thing to say? You're trying to sound intelligent but it's failing.
Try harder.
It is the "passive role". It's the neutral position. Muslims, Catholics, Sikhs are the ones choosing to believe something. Everyone is an atheist to some degree; the difference being atheists apply the same reasoning to everyone. Christians will quickly become atheists regarding Allah or Ganesh or whatever other god.
Adrian Russell
>kike-loving Christcuck
>calling anyone a cuck
Christian Davis
So I'm just supposed to take your word for it, then?
I'm just supposed to take it on faith?
I've never seen atheism. I've never touched atheism. There's no video evidence of it. You can't weigh or measure it. It's just a bunch of contradictory, muddled, rambling, frankly outlandish self-reports of it from a few people, some of whom are in mental institutions.
Also, last time I checked, the only things that exist are material objects. Do you really expect me to believe that something like atheism, an idea, exists? Bullshit.
Caleb Sanchez
LOOOOOOL
Jaxson Hernandez
Alexander Smith
Your enemies believe.
Wyatt Nelson
> assuming one can't be moral without religion
Nathan Turner
REMINDER:
Christianity is Cuck™: the religion
Isaac Evans
every thread
"are you serious!? YOU'RE A THEIST WHITE MALE!"
Thomas Phillips
>He thinks the only way for god to exist is for it to be the Christian god.
You're an idiot, I didn't say anything about following Jew bullshit.
Easton Mitchell
ITT: Christcucks trying to rationalize why they aren't any crazier than mudslimes
Alexander Cook
There is no God, no soul, no afterlife.
All we have is here and now. The sooner you realize that the better.
Jeremiah Garcia
>Jew wannabe
>saying anyone lacks morals
kek
Liam Rivera
Remove Pope Francis. Bring back Urban II
Juan Watson
did you have a seizure or something? Speak like you eat
I am not implying we use our conscience to create reality. All the contrary. The experiment proves that reality is impossible for us to fundamentally understand. What you are witnessing is reality making itself impossible to be understood and measured, because our reason becomes a subject, and not an arbiter
>neutral position
thanks, I know very well how deluded you are about that. There is no such thing as a neutral position. Nobody is born a Christian just like nobody is born an atheist.
Luis Long
People who are 100% theists are indoctrinated from a young age, up to a point where anyone who attacks these indoctrinated beliefs trigger some form of defense mechanism, e.a. this thread.
It's just sad, really. You can argue for/against God (i'm obviously atheist) but every argument from theists is just ad homs and other fallacies.
Brayden Harris
>go around proudly proclaiming your lack of morality
No because I do not preach about atheism unless someone actively tries to attack it or push their religion which is what is happening now.
> your lack of kindness, your lack of regard for your community, and your lack of love for anything aside from yourself
This is a strawman argument. Do you know there are literally millions upon millions of atheists in the world. They make up the majority in some countries (e.g. Japan, Estonia). Do you think the majority of people there cannot feel these things? Because I don't believe some god exists I cannot feel kindness, a sense of community or love for others?
You are no better than some fucking zealot who dehumanizes others in order to foster hate towards that group.
Mason Fisher
Welcome to metaphysics. God doesn't intervene in the world, that should be obvious.
James Fisher
Believers are 'good' for a reward.
Non believers are 'good' because it's right to help create the world you want to live in.
Joseph Walker
>ITT: North Americans that can not have any self worth and basic human dignity without old Jewish tales to instill them with it..
Hilarious.
Noah Jenkins
Please provide a cohesive evidence for any of your claims, then we can talk.
Protip: you can't.
And do you want to know why? Because all religions are just a pile of lies.
Matthew Baker
Some of the Pharisees rejected Jesus even after witnessing miracles firsthand. A third of the angels rejected God even knowing Him. Most people will reject God on judgement day. Atheists just have s head start on their denial. Thank God that in His mercy He hasn't revealed Himself to them yet.
Ethan Rogers
that would be the cuck blood running through their holy veins preventing them from physical combat
ironically their god is the war god
Carter Cook
next to noone here thinks god is real or is really christian
it's LARP, a rebellious reaction to their peers being non-religious and the rest of the internet
Kayden Smith
Never forget
Jacob Cruz
>ur all dumb
>i am smart and enlightened
>let me accuse you of fallacy even though my whole post was one big fucking fallacy
Joseph Lewis
I don't have "faith". I reached a logical conclusion based on available evidence. That evidence being that matter and energy tend toward a disordered state which means something which operates outside the observed rules of our universe must have acted to put our universe into a state of order in the first place. That entity would by definition be god.
Charles Garcia
don't play dumb, user. we know it always comes back to the heeb war god that Christcucks beive in
Jayden Richardson
Im sorry but I can't physically make myself believe that there is a god. I support christian values, but its not up to me wether or not I believe in god. I'd like to be able to, but it isnt possible for me to make myself believe.
Christian Kelly
never 5get
>Pope says gay marriage is from satan
cnsnews.com
>Pope Francis speaks against Gay adoption
wdtprs.com
>Compares trans rights to nuclear arms race
independent.co.uk
>Pope Francis says that there's no salvation outside the Church
catholicherald.co.uk
>He excommunicates an Australian priest supporting gay marriage and women clergy
huffingtonpost.com
>Pope Francis is against gender theory and for traditional gender roles
ncronline.org
>Pope is against abortion
lifenews.com
>He Encourages the use of force against ISIS
businessinsider.com
>Pope Francis is against lukewarm "faith"
catholicnewsagency.com
>The Pope is misquoted often
christianpost.com
>The Pope Rebukes Communist Cross
telegraph.co.uk
Andrew Flores
>What do you think is so inherently justifiable about a lack of belief?
>Nobody teaches you to believe -> You don't believe -> Lack of belief
How is it not justifiable?
>Do you go around proudly proclaiming your lack of morality,
Is there no morality without (abrahamic) religion?
>your lack of decency, your lack of kindness, your lack of regard for your community, and your lack of love for anything aside from yourself?
What are you implying? That you need Christ for any of those things?
Austin Brown
sjew "atheists" hate christianity because it's a religion of healthy white men and women who care about each other
it's the same reason they cuck out completely to disgusting muslim pedo worshippers
Dominic Peterson
>nobody is born an atheist
Idiotic. Religion is taught. If one religion is true (e.g. Christianity) then how come a child born in Pakistan becomes Muslim, a child born in Thailand becomes Buddhist, a child born in Texas becomes Christian? Religion is taught. Theism is taught.
Show me millions of children that from the age of when they can speak and think start professing belief in the same god without influence of their parents then maybe I will have some respect for what you say.
Nolan Bailey
>I believe religion is right and really is the word of god
>in every day life, jews manipulate people their entire lives through lies
>not with religion though, nope, that is completely different
Levi James
Exactly.
Once you realize the implications of it, and the fundamental difference between mind and matter you stop both being a degenerate fedora or a gullible christcuck
Elijah Bailey
So that somehow proves resurrection, the validity of prayer, and a conscious creator deity?
Elijah Myers
>muh enlightenment
We know only 0.02% of everything. So to simply assume that God doesn't exist is retarded.
Daniel Rogers
Sup Forums cucktians live in a dreamworld where christianity is strong and moral and a backbone of society, all the while all organized christians and their political parties are pushing for immigration, islamization and destruction of the West.
Colton Gray
He licked niggers feet, nothing you post can salvage it.
Jaxson Smith
You're born a Christian. You're taught something else.
Jason Collins
>Religion is taught.
Atheist is taught too. What the fuck is "God delusion" otherwise?
>hurr durr le cultural differences
Don't you get it? When you are born you are not an atheist. That is one big lie. You become either religious or an atheirst when you grow up, out of your conscience. Sure, religious families will teach you their religion, but that does not mean you were an atheist before they did so. Basically, the burden of proof is on you to show me you were atheist at 2 years old. Otherwise shut up
Jose Hughes
Could be, but saying that my specific skyfairy is the only way and 100% true is pants-on-head retarded.
Adam Myers
he's less of a disgusting pathetic cuck than i thought
he's still pozzed and i want benedict back
Wyatt Powell
IAWIAM
YAWYA
WAWWA
Evan Bennett
Nigga did you really quote Wikipedia like 8 times and ONLY Wikipedia?
Zachary Diaz
don't move goalposts. Start by admitting that science will never be able to go over that wall. Admit that science CANNOT find out truth. Then we'll speak again
Asher Brooks
Now if he only didnt produce trash like Amoris Laetitia which has open holes larger than barn-doors in places where he should be defending plain scriptural facts that have been the matisteriums teachings for over a millenia I wouldnt even be upset about him.
Sadly all the confusion he allways causes without correcting makes him a really troubblesome person.
Connor Jones
The materialist worldview is self-refuting. Atheism itself cannot exist when the existence of isms is ruled out to start with. You can't even prove that atheism, your god, exists by any standard which you demand the existence of any other god be proven by.
Luis Gomez
First cavemen were theists, any savage tribe believes in some kind of supernatural shit.
We can argue that belief in God is some kind of "bug" in our programming but what you said is just fedoraspeak
Owen Wilson
Switzerland invented homework.
Christian Clark
I was born atheist.
Michael Torres
Finland YES
I am now a #SunniServicer
Caleb Smith
So you're telling me that it's stupid people have different interpretations of God? Because in reality that just strengthen the argument that something with a higher power dose exsist
Austin Reyes
The fuck is that shit
Isaac Parker
atheism is not a god
atheist and religious are not mutually exclusive
humans are a very metaphisically aware species, but that doesn't mean they aren't born atheist
Thomas Parker
I was not taught to be athiest. I was taught to be christian (kind of). My grandparents gave me bible stories and I read them assuming they were just stories. Nobody told me god wasnt real, I just didnt believe their was a god.
Lincoln Sullivan
if god is real why would he create girls with dicks and then proceed to ban fucking them
Mason Jenkins
>i want benedict back
He is still alive
he is just doing PR. It is wrong of course, but hey, we knew this would happen. Look up Katharina Emmerick - two popes
proofs? Can I have a written testament of your atheism and signature right after you were born? No? NO EVIDENCE NO PROOF I DON'T BELIEVE IT
Bentley Ortiz
not an argument brah
Sebastian Foster
*tips fedora*
Levi Ross
hey dont go bashing my fellow theists the west is doing great
God bless am,erica understanding and tolerant thank you for letting my spic muslim cross breed in being very helpful with a black progressive president soon tobe a woman president Allah bless
see you at ramzan, sundown.
Juan Perry
>Atheist is taught too.
You don't need to teach non-belief unless someone has been taught to believe first..
>What the fuck is "God delusion" otherwise?
A book by a European that, like many western Europeans, doesn't believe in god, trying to explain to North Americans why believing in god is an odd thing to do...
>Don't you get it? When you are born you are not an atheist. That is one big lie. You become either religious or an atheirst when you grow up
So what are you born as then, if it´s not religious or non-religious?
>Sure, religious families will teach you their religion, but that does not mean you were an atheist before they did so. Basically, the burden of proof is on you to show me you were atheist at 2 years old. Otherwise shut up
At 2 years old I didn´t have a concept or religion, because my parents didn´t teach me... At 6 I said my prayers at school because that´s just what you did at school, and by the time I was 10 I stopped doing so because the teacher said that praying should be a choice. And because to me praying was just saying another rhyme (rhymes are common in kindergarten and low elementary school classes.. There was a rhyme for lunch, a rhyme for jumping up and down and getting the sand out of your clothes and shoes after play time, and countless rhymes for holidays... The morning prayer was just another rhyme in my mind), I stopped promptly..
It wasn't until yeaaars later that I even fully understood the Lords Prayer, and how much of a mean spirited rhyme it actually is, especially if you consider it's rammed home to 5 year olds as if it's a vital thing... As vital as the lunch-rhyme!
Kids are born neutral, and non-religious. Religion has to be taught... If you consider non-religious to be atheist, then kids are born atheist.