So, Sup Forums, I just want to point something out and get some feedback from you.
I know there are a vast amount of trolls on this page. Homosexuals, liberals, conservatives, religious, atheist, agnostic, every color, race and creed.
However, can we agree on one thing? That liberals are horrible people. I'm not talking those with liberal ideology, no. I'm talking the "triggggggered" liberals. Libtards, if you will.
They are just genuinely terrible people. I've been trying to understand them for years, I really have. I've discussed topics with them, bought some lunch even just to have them explain their thoughts to me. I still don't get it.
How can you hate people that damn much? Hate for EVERYONE and EVERYTHING that isn't 100% what you agree with? Even as a conservative I hear people out then if we still disagree, we're at an impasse and there's no harm, no foul.
But Jesus at you libtards.
TL;DR, libtards are terrible people. Agree or disagree?
That's cringe, user. And by the way cropophagia is hazardous to your health. So please go for it and rid us of your presence.
Anthony White
Maybe if you're eating some no-names shit. Science is behind Andy's logs.
Cooper Myers
You're talking about extreme liberals, but extreme conservatives are the same way. It really doesn't matter what end of the political spectrum you're in, if you go too far off either end, you run into extremists. Extremists only have one viewpoint, and are completely impervious to any other viewpoint that's different from their own. They won't listen to reason, logic, or anything else. They just get off on believing what they want to believe, left or right. Sometimes they don't even have to be associated with any particular political ideology (ex. flat-earthers), they're just so brainwashed that their minds are completely closed to the possibility that they might be wrong.
There's an old quote from Winston Churchill that pretty much sums all of these people up: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
Liberal fanatic, conservative fanatic, or just plain conspiracy-theorist... they're all useless, and they hold the human race back. So what can logical, reasonable people do about all this? It's simple:
Keep accepting more than one idea. It drives them absolutely crazy.
Tyler Phillips
is there just one group of redditfags behind log posting?
Ryder Russell
when you're so triggered you blogpost on Sup Forums and hope someone will listen to you bitching because your mom is tired of hearing it from you.
Ryan Cox
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Joshua Scott
Why do left wing tards call themselves "liberal" anyway? I never understood that. Left wing tards are against almost ever conceivable liberty/freedom.
Calling yourself liberal should mean you are against any governmental restrictions or interventions e.g. against gun control, against state welfare, against the state snooping in poeples private business.
But in reality people calling themselves liberals are just totalitarian socialists and egalitarianists that hate freedom.
Nathaniel Collins
True they’re the worst
Levi Martinez
Hint: it works both ways. Conservatards are also terrible people.
Grayson Harris
agree. that is why i am happy hillary lost
William White
eat shit, user, preferably on live cam DO IT, FAGGOT!
Jose Howard
Got Andy Sixx's number?
Gabriel Hall
It's not the ideology, it's the primate dominance behavior. You can believe whatever you want, the problem is when you assert that what you believe makes you better than other people, and get angry and violent about it.
Robert Young
pretty sure you are full of shit. Even a brief discussion with any of these people will give you an idea as to what they find important, and even the ability to find some common ground.
Joseph Sullivan
OP here. That's surprisingly insightful. Thank you user.
Brandon Turner
Agree, loved seeing all the sad Hilary supporters the next day. My buddy and I drove around and yelled out the window at then trump and then made a machine gun sound
Joshua Watson
nice bait! ...to just grab it...I feel like the stormfags and poltards are at least as hateful, but they know they're a minority so they're quieter about it on here...you know if we had a mainstream Nazi party they'd be out on the street cracking skulls every time they disagreed with anyone...
I do think there's a lot less rational listening than we need, though, user. I think the 'libtards' feel like they're defending people (of course, there's also the 'righteous fury' angle of arrogance but they both have that). I guess the stormfags have some of that, too, although I find it harder to take seriously.
tldr: I guess any political '-tard' probably shouldn't be listened to and should probably grow up...
Sebastian Scott
That's where you're wrong user. I'm still friends with these people. Hell, one of my oldest friends that I still spend time with to this day is a lesbian that voted for Hillary. It's not that I can't find common ground with liberals, it's the extreme ones that bother me. Another user here called them "extremists" and they're absolutely right. The extremists on both sides are annoying as fuck.
I can find common ground with anyone. I've been doing sales for 12 years so it's part of my job.
Hudson Stewart
you're referring to progressives, not liberals. ..conservatives are just as bad.
Jaxson Nelson
ahem...i mean, poltards and stormfags are quieter about it EXCEPT on here...someone's warming their internet gas-chamber up for me right now, obviously
Connor Davis
>Libtards Does that mean that republicans are retards?
David Adams
nice
but Trump is just as bad, even though he did a lot of good things recently, he still increases national debt... I know Hitlary would have done the same... But anyway at some point the debt will bring on a crises that could lead to civil unrest the likes we haven't seen before.
Joseph Anderson
>Calling yourself liberal should mean you are against any governmental restrictions or interventions e.g. against gun control, against state welfare, against the state snooping in poeples private business.
that's libertarians. conservatives and democrats are two sides of the same authoritarian coin
Jack Hernandez
agree
Landon Green
Very valid point.
There's a sense of irony with the "libtard" moral outrage though. I heard it explained once and always loved it.
How racist do you need to be, to be outraged FOR a group of people that aren't very outraged? Thinking that they are too poor and stupid to stand up for themselves, so you must do it for them because they lack the mental capacity to be properly offended?
I've met extremes on both sides. Most of the extreme conservatives I know will end the conversation with, "Well, that's why 'Merica is the best contry in the world. You have a right to be wrong."
However, the libtards don't back off until you agree 100% to what they say. Even if it's something as simple as personal preference.
Ryan Hill
then what don't you get?
Lucas Martinez
Agreed.
There are retards in the Republican groups. For sure.
Wyatt Perry
>>Libtards >Does that mean that republicans are retards? No, byyour logic they are reptards, you retard.
Henry Rogers
cuckservatives
Brayden Adams
I don't understand how there's such a hatred for someone that disagrees with you.
If you like pizza, and I don't, then I just don't like pizza. No big deal. But if you're an extremist like mentioned above, and I still don't like pizza, you then become furious that I don't like pizza and start calling me xenophobic for not liking a foreign based food. Fury ensues, and we never speak again.
See the difference? It's very basic euphemism but similar.
Jose Morgan
Checkin this wisdom
Kevin Perry
Sadly, no. "extreme" liberals or even moderate liberals that are "shamed" by social media into becoming flaming liberals fall into this category. The number of times white men I know publicly debase themselves for being white and male and then are given stern but approving responses from the echo chamber is just staggering. I think the biggest failure of social media is the strict conformity among liberals it's created. And once they close off all avenues of disagreement, then they start attacking each other for not being "liberal enough".
Shit like "not being racist is racism" because you have to be actively ANTI racist or you're a racist. Just living your life by not being a racist used to be a good thing, now that's as bad as being hitler.
Of course that's just shit they say on FailBook.
Carter Clark
True, I wonder if they invented "libertarian" because of decades of abuse of the word liberal. Still I beleive liberals should come out honest and call themselves socialists, because that's what they are.
I can't wait until blacks and Mexicans breed whites out of existence.
Gabriel Adams
no, it's just that people dont realize there's most than one dimension
Landon Peterson
Just putting this out there: the term "triggered" is supposed to refer to anxiety attacks people with ptsd get. It's like that picture with the Iraq war vet holding a sign saying "please don't set off firecrackers" because the sound will "trigger" a war flashback and an anxiety attack. But people on the left and right started using the word "trigger" as another way of saying "upset."
But, who then would be the minority and discriminated against?
The left has ruined a lot of things for people. I think my favorite was the guy writing an article about his experience shooting an "assault rifle." Said that it gave him an anxiety attack and PTSD.
Chase Anderson
>I'm just kind of making up my own reality as I go.
Alexander Wood
It's because there are so many cases, especially on the left, where the person has self-diagnosed PTSD. In other words, they're sensitive little babies that are too afraid to take responsibility, so they blame it on something that "happened" to them.
Dylan Clark
Gawd! Hillary Clinton on the right.
Samuel White
>that's just shit they say on facebook I really wish this were true, but this happens in real life as well.
Hunter Torres
I wish I was user. Sadly, this is true.
Jordan Brooks
she's a pro-war, pro-bank authortarian, favors mass surveillance, mass incarceration, so yeah. the graph shows authoritarian/libertarian and economic left/right. not sjw-ness or anti-maleness
Jason Collins
US democrats are authoritarian-right, US republicans are extreme-authoritarian, extreme-right
Benjamin Harris
there are negative freedoms and positive freedoms.
social liberals (what the right casually refers to as "libruhls") argue, that you can't truly be free if you are inhibited by things like missing health care, no access to higher education...
economic liberals more or less believe in the idea, that people are free, when there is a free market
libertarians are edgy teenagers
Jonathan Clark
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Chase Wright
Oh wow, this IS the same no-life faggot. Answers "grow up" to anyone who basically tells him to grow up.
Posts Andy Sixx, triggered, daily reminder about cheerleaders hooking up with football players, and the god-awful "Oh America, how did you let it get to this?" It's the same goddamn faggot every single time.
This is the downside of everyone being an user. We can't find and kill this one guy. It would be personally amusing to me to break into this faggot's home and put a couple of .22 rounds into his neckbearded head. A couple of cheap bullets to make the world slightly better by getting rid of someone who only ever amounted to a mild annoyance. I would pay Sup Forums good money for that address. Because that would be so satisfying.
But alas, we have to abide constant annoying threads from this absolute nobody. C'est la vie.
Leo Gonzalez
Is it really a "freedom" though if it's instituted, funded, and controlled by the Government?
Our government only does 1 thing well. War. Even then, they are remarkably wasteful.
I don't want to give the government control over a damn thing, mainly because I've been to a DMV and heard the stories out of the VA's.
Kevin Ross
I like genocide, you dislike genocide... can't we all just get along?
These arguments aren't about pizza dude. They are about your role in oppressing other people. Sort of like the abortion debate.
I like killing children, you don't! Guess we agree to disagree!
Fuck no - if you really feel children are being murdered every day, you are out picketing, raising money, fighting to save the lives of those children. Even killing the doctors who are murderers.
Dylan Martin
social liberals and progressives are two entirely different animals. social liberals favor equality, progressives favor keeping discrimination and swapping who benefits. social liberals favor strengthening justice, progressives favor eliminating due process and free speech
Kayden Perez
Ma man, we're extremely fucked. The western civilization is soaked in relativism and degeneracy.
Also, >antonio gramsci >frankfurt school >eric voegelin >roger scruton
Adrian Lewis
so do something about then. impersonate LE and submit forged subpoenas to Sup Forums and his ISP.
livestream carrying out justice and be a divine immortal hero
William Watson
It's going to happen one day. He's going to make the mistake of phoneposting within arms' reach of another Sup Forumstard.
Hudson Murphy
one day i saw these fat asian who reeked of autism posting on Sup Forums on his phone on the subway. lol'd hard. if i ever saw the log fag yeah, would follow and expose
Hunter Brooks
somebody put a pathetic amount of time into forced meme
David Powell
just went from a 9 to a 10
Gabriel Taylor
At least I know I'm not alone in feeling this way.
Zachary James
That's...not even close. And this is the kind of attitude I'm talking about user.
Please, enlighten me on how being conservative is about oppressing people. The 2 biggest topics of mine...
>Healthcare >Free college
Neither of those are about oppressing people. It's about creating personal responsibility to be able to afford health care (insurance) or to afford college.
I'm not in favor of abortion passed the 1st trimester. Once you've made it that first 3 months, you've lost your chance. No turning back now.
Now, I don't agree with it at all, but it's a compromise.
Along those same lines, free birth control for women. I disagree with. Buy your own shit.
So, please enlighten me how my stance on abortion, education, health care, and pizza, are similar to genocide?
Gavin Richardson
sure. Socialism is the way forward. Liberals are too easily co-opted by neolibs and imperialists
Cameron Evans
>Is it really a "freedom" though if it's instituted, funded, and controlled by the Government?
See. That's the thing. The governement is supposed to protect your freedoms. If your governement thinks, that positive freedoms should be a thing it would protect these, just as it would protect the negtive freedoms (like free speach).
Noah Nguyen
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Jordan Sanders
Well, in theory I would agree with you. Keyword "supposed" to protect.
I think basics should be protected. Speech, firearms, religion, market, etc. But there seems to be a warping of the definition of "freedom." Especially with the Bernie crowd. I don't think heathcare, college, birth control, etc are labeled as freedoms. Yet they seem to.
Asher Collins
pro war, pro authoritarian, favors mass surveilance and mass incarceration can equally apply to the left. extremly well actually just look at the socialist countries in history.
Kayden Carter
Liberals don't go far enough left and they're only left when it suits them. If it impacts them directly they're right of center.
Chase Jenkins
Explain?
Meaning that they do it for show or convenience?
Ethan King
Most liberals you see in the media are college age which means they can't conceive of anyone disagreeing with them. They are discovering the big world of politics and their viewpoints "feel" right to them. The see themselves as the righteous fury and don't understand why everyone else are not in agreement with them. They'll grow out of it. Hopefully.
Carter Jackson
indeed; see the graph. left/right is a different axis from authoritarian/libertarian. but the democrats are right of center by the standards of the rest of the world
Levi Rodriguez
what's leddit have to do with these retards log memes? I was wondering who was forcing because absolutely was and still forced.
Jose Murphy
>conservatives >open minded people willing to listen
Pick one
Asher Hill
>stay mad kid >lost the election >still salty
lmao
Anthony Hernandez
Extremists on either side are insufferable people tbqh.
In an ideal world politics would have no place on Sup Forums.
>Nevertheless, Trump’s victory is not solely a revolt against global finance. What his voters rejected was not neoliberalism tout court, but progressive neoliberalism. This may sound to some like an oxymoron, but it is a real, if perverse, political alignment that holds the key to understanding the U.S. election results and perhaps some developments elsewhere too. In its U.S. form, progressive neoliberalism is an alliance of mainstream currents of new social movements (feminism, anti-racism, multiculturalism, and LGBTQ rights), on the one side, and high-end “symbolic” and service-based business sectors (Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and Hollywood), on the other. In this alliance, progressive forces are effectively joined with the forces of cognitive capitalism, especially financialization. However unwittingly, the former lend their charisma to the latter. Ideals like diversity and empowerment, which could in principle serve different ends, now gloss policies that have devastated manufacturing and what were once middle-class lives.
Luke Martinez
Yeah I'm sure you'd be "over it" by now if Trump lost.
Ian Torres
No, it's just autism.
Consider the banana faggotry. It's no different.
Autists are amused by autistic things. It's only natural.
Brandon Myers
>Progressive neoliberalism developed in the United States over the last three decades and was ratified with Bill Clinton’s election in 1992. Clinton was the principal engineer and standard-bearer of the “New Democrats,” the U.S. equivalent of Tony Blair’s “New Labor.” In place of the New Deal coalition of unionized manufacturing workers, African Americans, and the urban middle classes, he forged a new alliance of entrepreneurs, suburbanites, new social movements, and youth, all proclaiming their modern, progressive bona fides by embracing diversity, multiculturalism, and women’s rights. Even as it endorsed such progressive notions, the Clinton administration courted Wall Street. Turning the economy over to Goldman Sachs, it deregulated the banking system and negotiated the free-trade agreements that accelerated deindustrialization. What fell by the wayside was the Rust Belt—once the stronghold of New Deal social democracy, and now the region that delivered the electoral college to Donald Trump. That region, along with newer industrial centers in the South, took a major hit as runaway financialization unfolded over the course of the last two decades. Continued by his successors, including Barack Obama, Clinton’s policies degraded the living conditions of all working people, but especially those employed in industrial production. In short, Clintonism bears a heavy share of responsibility for the weakening of unions, the decline of real wages, the increasing precarity of work, and the rise of the two–earner family in place of the defunct family wage.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>give up on what you believe in because the other guy won this time
Kys
Nicholas Lopez
Yet, because of their incredibly reduced mental capabilities, the people (and I use that term only in the biological sense) with the bullets lose.
Easton Collins
meh wouldnt say so. sure on some issues the positions are more right than in some european countries. but the culture around it matters aswell. the supposed moral highground and appeal to feelings aswell as irresponsible spending habbits and grand illusions that daddy govermant is going to fix everything through more gibbs are hallmarks of the left no matter the country.
Owen Williams
I have lots of liberal views (gay marriage and adoption, accesible healthcare, and some others) but I can completely agree with you OP. Even between liberals they are horrendous persons when one doesn't agree with them. Instead of debating and trying to convince people that their point is right they just call you a bigot, racist (which does not make sense since I'm latino), misogynist, greedy, capitalist fuck.
> I don't think heathcare, college, birth control, etc are labeled as freedoms.
They are not. They are supposed to lead to freedom.
from wikipedia: >Freedom, generally, is having an ability to act or change without constraint.
So in the end it's entirely about, what you think that sentence means. I personally would argue, that you can't be truly free if you always have to worry about healthcare.
Nathaniel Hughes
I had a feeling that would be part of it. I missed the college scene so I just don't understand it at times. I did 1 semester and immediately switched to trade school.
You'd be shocked user. I can be open minded and conservative at the same time.
Daniel Ortiz
>As that last point suggests, the assault on social security was glossed by a veneer of emancipatory charisma, borrowed from the new social movements. Throughout the years when manufacturing cratered, the country buzzed with talk of “diversity,” “empowerment,” and “non-discrimination.” Identifying “progress” with meritocracy instead of equality, these terms equated “emancipation” with the rise of a small elite of “talented” women, minorities, and gays in the winner-takes-all corporate hierarchy instead of with the latter’s abolition. These liberal-individualist understandings of “progress” gradually replaced the more expansive, anti-hierarchical, egalitarian, class-sensitive, anti-capitalist understandings of emancipation that had flourished in the 1960s and 1970s. As the New Left waned, its structural critique of capitalist society faded, and the country’s characteristic liberal-individualist mindset reasserted itself, imperceptibly shrinking the aspirations of “progressives” and self-proclaimed leftists. What sealed the deal, however, was the coincidence of this evolution with the rise of neoliberalism. A party bent on liberalizing the capitalist economy found its perfect mate in a meritocratic corporate feminism focused on “leaning in” and “cracking the glass ceiling.”
Ryan Mitchell
I love to watch Antifa fags get fucked up by actual men on the Conservative side. Any man who supports Democrats and Liberals isn't a man, but a soy boy cuck. They are the reason why this world has no order and is full of degeneracy. They should go back to wearing emo make-up and cutting themselves.
Julian Nguyen
quiet
Aiden Jones
You sound like a sagely world-weary elder here. I know of no post, on this board, or any other, that could rival the depth presented here.
The fact that you fantasize about dudes fucking dudes may be a sign of latent faggotry though. Get checked out by your doctor before you start fapping to traps.
