Ronin thread

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bump you fgts

>mfw my Bambi thread yday gets 50+ replies and Ronin 0

There's no need for profanity.

Have you seen the alternate ending with Deirdre getting kidnapped? Pretty pointless and I'm glad they took it out. I like that there's just shit in this movie that isn't explained, like why is there a big fat French hermit who paints figurines somehow the guy you go to when you're in trouble?

best car chases in film ever,dont agree? fight me

Didn't see that, just checked it, yeah seemed pretty pointless. Must have "not gone over well with test audiences"

I also like how Sean Bean doesn't die but is just not good enough and gets cut from the job kek

A fucking treat with surround sound too

Yeah, I like that. I mean, we presume that he gets waxed off screen or that the next time he slips up, they come and find him, but it's nice that he just disappears.

The only thing I don't like about that movie is how Larry died. "Why did you have to kill Larry?"

Goddamn my memory, the movie's only been over for like an hour at most, and I have no idea how Larry died. How did Larry die?

Seamus slit his throat in the car while they were waiting outside the amphitheater thing or whatever it was.

Seamus killed him.

It's a really great way to keep the audience involved, let them fill in the gaps rather than just spelling everything out. It also gives the actors more ways to express things. Like when DeNiro tells the fat guy that he wouldn't hurt him and the dude just looks over his glasses with that "Bitch, please" expression.

Also my favorite expression from the movie is "fucked into a cocked hat" first runner up is "everyone's your brother until the rent comes due"

ah right!

lol dammit I screenshotted the cocked hat line and forgot all about it

I love De Niro's banter with Bean in the beginning too and his coffee trap

The whole movie is full of great little exchanges

>You ever kill anybody?
>I hurt somebody's feelings once.

>So are you labor or management?
>If I were management, I wouldn't have given you a cigarette.

>Where do I know you from?
>Vienna
>Ah, yes.

>You worried about saving your own skin?
>Yeah, I am. It covers my body.

A friend of mine pulled off the Gregor coffee catch once.

Somebody elbowed his glass off the bar and he caught it by the rim without spilling it.

>You're scared!
>Of course I'm scared! You think I'm reluctant because I'm happy?

>Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. That's the first thing they teach you.
>Who taught you?
>I don't remember, that's the second thing they teach you.

>Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape.

What color was the boathouse?

>So what color is the boat house at Hereford?
>How the fuck should I know?

He probably knew, otherwise he wouldn't be asking.

Ronin is a God-tier movie.

>implying there was a boat house to being with

Blue doors. Really.

>Wear cood ee be?

He didn't know, he was just trying to see if Mr. Bean had any anti-interrogation training.

If he was really SAS, he would have answered. If he wasn't SAS, but was still a legit intelligence OPERATOR he would have tried to flip the question on Sam.

Vincent's fixer was played by Michael Lonsdale, who was a staple actor in a lot of 70s spy movies, and played Hugo Drax in Moonraker

He did a good job. He paid just enough attention to the situation to make it seem like he was paying attention, but blew it off enough that it made it seem like it was old hat.

Fuck, this is such a good movie.

He did a great job of balancing concerned and annoyed, and he did so much of it with just his facial expressions.

So... what colour was the boathouse?

How the fuck should I know...

The bit about how the grasshopper breaks him always makes me chuckle.

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I'm conflicted. On one hand I'm sad that Larry went out like a punk bitch, but on the other he was probably the most flat character and didn't seem to contribute much to the team

I always like that one or a few of the protagonists die, so the adventure isn't a walk in the park

Who /charming irish lilt/ here?

YES i love this movie
what's your favorite scene, the one that stood out to you guys the most

Probably the scene with the old guy with the figurines from which the movie gets its title. It's all great though - the car chase towards the end of the film is epic.

bean should have come back as gregor's sniper. it's weird that the idea of his sniper friend is introduced so late in the game and then just sort of goes away.

and i wish they had kept natasha mcelrffghehone getting IRA'd. it would have been a nice button on the story, without it the ending is fairly abrupt.

it's a great movie though.

This desu

Just finished watching it for the first time in like 7 years.

So Robby D was CIA?

I loved how ruthless the russian is about his skater gf. Gregor uses his sniper to secure his safety but the russian cares more about the case & money than his girl.

Also I felt bad for the driver. He was such a bro, cooking eggs and shit.


I forgot how good the banter was in this movie.

>Who was that
>An old friend from high school

Later, after vincent gets info about the russian and the skate natacha

>How the hell did you find that out?
>We went to high school together

Get the background
> Get the background

>whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt

literally remember this line whenever i need to make a decision

The whole scene where Sean Bean gets outed was excellent.

The gun porn and car chases were top class, probably the last great car chase film before the advent of cgi enhancement.

I think having Diedre's fate reveals would have gone against the overall ambiguous nature of the story. Maybe she escaped and moved on, maybe she got offed by the IRA or someone else. Just like we'll never know what was in the case.

Probably CIA, but we'll never really be sure. All we knew was that even his buddy thought he was out, but he was just undercover.

>No questions. No answers. That's the business we're in. You just accept it and move on. Maybe that's the third lesson.

WHAT WAS IN THE FUCKING BRIEFCASE?

What does that mean? Commit to the course you chose even though you can't be sure it's correct?

That isn't necessary.

It's a sort of "follow your gut" thing. If something doesn't feel right, it probably isn't.

Ah that makes sense, thanks

Is it heavy? Is it explosive? Is it handcuffed to some poor bloke's wrist? Are we gonna have to chop it off?

> Most of the guys I knew just wanted to stay alive long enough to go home and open a bar.

> Had they lived, would they have done it?

> *shrug*

> Then they were spared their disillusionment.

I miss when movies were more ambiguous and unclear.

I dislike when being spoon-fed;when something was clear don't force a character to explain it just in case some idiot missed it.

I like having to really think about the movie to try and make up my mind about the point of ambiguity.

>tfw someone thinks they can hurt you

The late 90s seems so quaint now. A lot of the cars they used in the chases are dirt cheap too.

Audi S8's are cheap.

E34 BMW's are even cheaper.

The old Mercedes Benz that Sam and the French guy use to capture the case in the first half of the film is a special version of the car with adjustable hydraulic suspension and a 6.9L V8.

It's like the ending to Sopranos. Like it or hate it, it sticks with you.

In an era of gratification, you're going to remember the story that leaves you hanging.

he didn't know
he was testing him
any answer automatically given would have been accepted, its about thinking on your feet and reacting
instead spence just spluttered and got defensive

I remember hearing on 3RRR someone called in to a thing they were doing about unusual job interviews and they claimed to have applied for the SAS and one question they were asked was "do you like fat chicks?"

Stuff like this is to just give you something random and unexpected and see how you roll with it
It tests your ability to react to changing situation

Larry was the car man

I liked that it wasn't all lambos and Astons. I liked that the Russians were rolling Citroen XMs, because it was France in the late 90s.

>bean should have come back
no thats such a studio TWEEST
they wanted to do that and the film makers had to fight them to not do that
they did film a scene of Diedre attempting to approach the cafe they were in at the end but being picked up and hauled into a van by some guys with irish accents
the scene is on the DVD

ice skates for the mobsters girlfriend

So what colour was the boathouse?

Was there a boathouse? Maybe it was made of glass.

Yeah, but that was about as deep as Larry went.

Spence was the weapons man, but he turned out to be a poser. Gregor was the tech guy, but he turned out to be a Judas. I just feel like Larry's death would have had more weight if they gave him a little bit of a story hook. Like maybe he had a kid or something.

But if that's the worst thing I can say about it, then it's still a great movie.

Yeah, I know about the deleted scene but I'm glad they didn't show it. It fits better with the "no questions, no answers" theme.

Is ambiguity-noir a genre?

Pretty much any classic noir has one or two aspects that are never made fully clear. Like what some characters true intention was, or who committed the murder.

This is one of the best things I have ever seen

>No questions. No answers. That's the business we're in. You just accept it and move on. Maybe that's the third lesson.

And what a business. What a fucking film. God, I love it.

>I AMBUSHED YOU WITH A CUP OF COFFEE

>Almost 2017 AD
>Ronin is still the last good De Niro movie

Cheese Pizza

Tony didn't dies, everyone knows this.

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>>whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt
wtf does the line mean?

also what's with the random webms here

last good DeNiro movie by far

If you suspect something is amiss, chances are you're quite fucked.

good fucking question

>He had the fake case made he had it made the fake case had he made he made the fake case

>DRAW IT AGAING DRAW IT AGAIN DRAW IT AGAIN DRAW IT AGAIN

literally me in every party i go

Larry just wanted to live long enough to open a bar back home.

jesus how did I not get that, tfw dense sometimes

tnx

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I'm not complaining but what are you doing nigga

God's work.

can't argue with trips carry on

>doesn't carry on
Don't worry, I'm here to save the day

gotta carry on with the theme though

What's the theme, taking the Blue Velvet one into account?

take it out of account and notice
>young natalie
>young leelee

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Are internet hackers this badass IRL?

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She wasn't in the movie, was she?

no this dude just started posting random webm's for whatever reason