Would we be better off without California, as a country?

would we be better off without California, as a country?

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No. Their contributions to the federal coffers puts any two of the flyover states to shame.

I'm not American, but yeah I reckon you would be.

build the wall around them and let them have all the illegal immigrants

yes

Idiots outing themselves

California is home to a fantastic university system that our country relies heavily on for research and innovation. JPL is in California. Spacex. Apple. Google. Cisco.
California is the reason American culture is exported to the world
California’s economy alone is larger than most countries.

California isn’t an afterthought. California is the US to the rest of the world along with NYC and the Grand Canyon

Yes

Kill yourself you fucks wouldnt make it five years out of the union before running out of water or getting conquered by russians

You clearly have no idea about the oil industry in texas or the ability of motor city. This Country doesn't hinge on California and I predict it will be completely trashed/crashed within 5 years. Democratic rule has killed that state.

Absolutely

All estates below 103 should gtfo

wow, there's a lot of niggers in mississippi, huh?

Short answer is yes.

california is in massive debt, and has been costing the country roughly 7 billion annually in bailouts by taxpayers, California is a drain on the country fiscally and morally.

>implying a single one of those cant be moved to some other state
Yo, hol' up. What if... things can be picked up and taken somewhere else. I'm starting to understand why deportating illegals is so hard for you guys. PROTIP: They gotta go back.

Yes it does actually you dumbfuck.

California does literally nothing the rest of the country can't do, and hasn't been relevant since the gold rush. the very picturesque scene it had that drew in so many people was the cause of its downfall, the stupidest most wanton people from everywhere have flocked there and turned it's most prosperous locales into shanty towns, with gib me liberal policies that bankrupted california and caused it to run a deficit of roughly 7 billion annually several years back, it's probably much higher by now.

>retard detected

Why would you wanna ditch California? I spent a lot of time over there, all over the state and I eventually came back to Blighty because I was homesick for real ale, irony and drizzle, but holy shit that place is glorious.

People have been predicting California will fail for the longest time and time and time again they’ve been proven wrong. And motor city? Isn’t Detroit in shambles right now?

We’d be way better off without the south

California is an economic powerhouse, it's 1/5th of the entire US economy, it's a major port to asia and has some of the best wilderness parks in the world.

Most southern and fly over states are welfare states, they take more from the federal government than they produce, and what they produce is mainly highly subsidised corn for sugar and soda. Many farms are also paid to not grow anything to regulate crop prices.

Keep cali, ditch the welfare states.

Any sources? Last I checked California paid more to the federal government that it took from it.

>fantastic university system
kids taking loans for public schools
>reason culture is exported to the world
that would be wars and movies
>economy alone is larger than
not larger than your welfare state

>what if they just move
Obviously they haven’t, because your state is trash

[citation needed]

>welfare state
We’re talking about California here, not republican states

Actually I've never been, but I don't think of any of those places when I think of the US. I've got this impossibly romantic vision of diners and truckstops and wheat fields blowing in the breeze like in Terrence Malick films.

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California is a stalinist shithole for spic goblins and chink rats, it is generally beyond western values and ideals of america, it has a cultural marxist and stateless perception of order and social system. Commiefornia wont be able to to feed all those illegal immigrants and in the upcoming earthquakes the whole state will bankrupt.

>GDP well above debt
kek

Ok kid

Texas is 100.00%!

Mississippi is usually at the very bottom of any ranking of the states. They might occasionally get a 48/50, but that's rare.

you've startled the necks and flyoverfucks, good on you user.

You're right though. Perception of the states in Germany is mostly californian stuff.
back to Sup Forums you faggot. How could you babble this much bs in that short period of time? Then why is California doing what the rest of the country isn't? Why is there no ambitious tech firm in arkansas?

I've been to a couple of Stalinist shitholes. Can't say either of them resembled California much, old chap.

FTFY
2 things:
The US looks a little off without it, so maybe just keep it for the aesthetic.
And yes. The answer is yes.

90% of the United States bottled water is exported from California you retard. If it wasn’t for all you faggots there wouldn’t be a California water problem to begin with. Read literally anything before you open your cock trap please.

You do know you have to read all the numbers right?

>American
>culture
kek

There is no answer "yes" or "no" to the question unless one specifies what's "good".

Personally, I do understand what makes certain people at least consider the advantages of getting rid of California, especially when it comes to a) Democrats and b) Hispanics.

I do, too, understand the appeal a independent California may have to a liberal progressive or a democratic socialist.

As a German, I can say there are a lot of things which seem more important to me at the moment.

>I do understand what makes certain people at least consider the advantages of getting rid of California, especially when it comes to a) Democrats and b) Hispanics.
>ceding a state just because they are majority democrats
how is this understandable?

sell it to canada, along with florida

>along with florida
what makes you think canada wants florida?
also, what's wrong with florida?

I've always felt that nuking LA, Chicago, and New York would be a very good thing to this country.

It's already pretty much ours. Just sign the papers.

>I always felt destroying large chunks of the country would be good for the country.

Full of Floridiots. Flat, hot, humid, with giant flying cockroaches and pythons.

Yea I'm so jealous that Europe has Muslim culture now.

pythons aren't much of a problem unless you live down south.
everything else I can agree with though. but it's great here. beaches. women. space industry.

Gotta get rid of those retarded liberals before they ruin everything.

you sound like an idiot. and being divisive is going to ruin everything worse than a couple trannies getting a special bathroom.

Dude, California is a massive chunk of this countries gdp and food. You would miss it.

If the entrenched arrogant stupid Democrats don't kill California, the Hayward Fault surely will. Or the mighty Earth-cunt San Andreas.

At least muslims have culture

>Not American
>I reckon

Masterbaiter detected

Yea. Blowing people up and running cucks over in trucks. Enjoy

Miami

STEP RIGHT UP! STEP RIGHT UP! COME SEE THE STUPIDEST user IN THE UNIVERSE! Please stay behind the glass to avoid catching his faggotry.

Weakening your political opponents by legal and peaceful means is rational, isn't it?

>being divisive is
... what partisan politics is all about. If you're against that sort of thing, you should become a fascist and fight for the "Volksgemeinschaft".

>You would miss it.
I guess most of the food exports of an independent California would go to the US.

California is full of left wing fags and illegals. They may as well be part of Mexico.

This, it's where most of the 3 million illegals votes for Hillary originated.

IQ tests are subjective, you know? Maybe places with more diverse populations show lower IQs because the testers subtly feel different than their subjects. Or cause their subjects are dumber because of race, if you're a racist.

But these data are not useful for analyzing intelligence. At best they represent information about an intelligence test en mass.

No, that's a good chunk of the economy. If America lost all of its blue regions then all the remaining red regions would become a third world county.

The US would lose a narrow strip on the West coast, a lot of big cities east of the Mississippi, parts of New England, some African american areas in the South East and some hispanic areas in the South West.
That would be a major impact, but not nearly enough for the remaining US to go 3rd world.

Also, if it would be so, it would be a good reason for the blue regions to secede, as they are currently subsidizing a vast chunk of 3rd world in their neighborhood who doesn't even vote for them in return.

Culturally yes, but economically, no.

California has a huge oil industry you dumb fuck.

Californians love going down past the border and vacationing in Ensenada and the rest of Baja California. We don’t give a fuck about what you think.

it’s funny that you guys think about our state as much as you do because we don’t think about any of you at all.
Red states - fuck ‘em
Rednecks - fuck ‘em
Conservatives - fuck ‘em

Of course we would.

We should aslo get rid of souther florida that isn't America.

yes. can't wait for the big earthquake to happen that causes it to break off and fall into the ocean.

i dunno how usa works as one country while all states hate each other

Unquestionably, Cali is a filthy hovel filled with left wing retards and immigrant trash, Californians are chucks of useless shit in the main.

>California is a stalinist shithole
California is hyper capitalist, you actual infinite retard.

noice argumints dere buddi boi

This thread just reminds how fucking dumb the middle of the country is.
Trolling or not, these people are
literally, stupid.

>red states in charge of not being useless welfare sponges to the federal goverment
>"let the states do it"
>"tell Washington to stay out of our business"

Yes, it's an overcrowded shithole and the reason the electoral college is needed to balance state voting power because of their population density (where niggers, liberals and spics live packed together like cockroaches) otherwise only dumbfuck democrats would be elected and we would be a 3rd world country by now.

Fuck yes! CALIFORNIANS BTFO!

they also make good kebab

....and the they take twice that with wasting money funding illegals and allowing the mutherfuckers to vote. Neck yourself faggot

>Fuck yes! CALIFORNIANS BTFO!
You must be from NM

>citation needed
Unless that tweet is your source, which wouldn't surprise many

>that face when florida rees so hard god smites them. Absoluts shitfit. REEEEEE WE WANNA BE OUR OWN COUNTRY. 100 year old Aussie real life trolling burns the state down. "America pls help." Then the mudslides. "America pls help."

I really fucking wish they succeded and then got rekt.

Sad that people died. But fuck everhone else

PFFFFFF HAHAHA!

We cant build another factory. There is no way to instantly transfer all of our research...

KEK. We shoukd annex those cucks and use all the money they suck from us to build a fucking wall there

Mississippi fag here. This man speaks the truth.

Word

>rees dumpfuck.

Classic shitlibtard come back

"NUH UHHHHHHHHH. Reeeeeeeeeee"

PROVE IT CUNT

If your insignificant, backwater, impoverished flyover states didn't merit having these industries there to start with what makes you think you merit them packing up and moving there now?

Edgelord liberal faggot detected.

IT'S ONLY STANDING BECAUSE WE BLEED BILLIONS TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING APART U NEWFAGGOT

This x 1000

See

>keep cali
>ditch the welfare states.

You litteral faggot California is a liberal ran shithole just like detroit.

I swear to fuck when a democrat gets ahold of something they fuck it untill it dies. Enrire state economies amd for 8 years under obama just straight raping us with his micropinus

California IS a country. All states are countries. You dun goofed guys.

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I have been in every major city and all but 2 state and California is the shitties trash nasty faggot fucking state in the world. If a scale from 1/10 New york would be a 5 amd California would get a 1 while they start working on rules to allow negative fucking numbers