Give me actual photographic proof of Sharia law being enforced in a European city

Not that ginger convert hanging sings in London, he was arrested for that.

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politifact.com/texas/article/2015/jul/17/sharia-court-irving-texas-negative/
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dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/09/prime-minister-firm-on-dutch-refugee-plan-expects-eu-support/
dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/11/dutch-consider-mini-schengen-zone-to-cut-refugee-influx/
middleeastobserver.org/2016/06/12/eu-turkey-is-safe-country-for-refugees-to-stay-in/
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I can't find a photographic proof even for my own islamic country
that doesn't mean at least %20 of mudslimes here don't want sharia though

Secularism was a mistake

They have their little pretend-courts and enforce their little pretend-judgments among their people, it's real.
In Britain, at least, no idea if they do it here.

They have their own courts.

>it's real.
Its true, Muslims have been trying to establish a Shariah court in TX for years now.

truthfeed.com/boom-texas-bans-sharia-law-and-the-first-islamic-sharia-court-in-the-usa-is-not-happy/16993/

Do have something from a real news site?
Why is the sign in English if it's supposed to be for Dutch Muslims?

Unfortunately, they're not pretend. They obviously can't enforce Sharia criminal punishments, but they can enforce family law, contract law, etc, by means of arbitration contracts which people 'willingly' are party to.

Well because it exists in England which is a English speaking country but Muslims all over Europe are welcome.

>Do have something from a real news site?
Theres this:
politifact.com/texas/article/2015/jul/17/sharia-court-irving-texas-negative/

and this:
www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/may/texas-takes-a-step-to-keep-sharia-law-out-of-american-courts

and this:

christiantimes.com/article/texas-senate-passes-bill-aimed-at-banning-sharia-law-from-courts/72247.htm

Basically anyone with a brain could see what happened. Do you need help figure out what the links mean?

Yet all of this is obviously done (contract) in the home country's legal framework.
It's "pretend" in the sense they can't really enforce stuff on the unwilling.

Self-hating Muslim women that don't run to the real court of law for whatever reason and then complain don't really count as "enforcement", they're just oppressing themselves.

As for (You),
watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=4gZCFdHkd4A

I don't understand how this can be "unbelievable" to you, they just rent a building, put a "Sharia expert" inside, and write down contracts/agreements that they have people sign.
It's basically standard "Arbitration" (see Wikipedia) but with a Muslim lawyer instead of a real one.

This desu. kill wh*tey. Q*ffar only exist to serve Jews, hence they must be removed.

>It's basically standard "Arbitration" (see Wikipedia) but with a Muslim lawyer instead of a real one.
Don't forget the religious authority.

only 16% wants it.

Because English is spoken by 80+% of Dutch people in the Netherlands , instead of having to learn Dutch Muzzies can learn engllish and get by.

Sharia is the worst law ever.
Im not talking about abnning pork and alcohol, fuck that.
Im talking about the fact that your own sister will need 4 male eye witnesses to prove she was raped

>It's "pretend" in the sense they can't really enforce stuff on the unwilling.
You're very naive about how Muslim communities work.

>Self-hating Muslim women that don't run to the real court of law for whatever reason and then complain don't really count as "enforcement", they're just oppressing themselves.
...for fear of being ostracized in their families or even being murdered.

Washington didn't write any of the founding documents.

Controversial opinion: the median erdogan supporter is not extreme

>muh culture war
>muh veil
>muh imam hatip school
>muh being mad about military coups

Even the ones in europe, they're working class kids constantly told to feel ashamed of what they are, nothing different from soccer hooligans or our black gangsters

>need 4 male eye witnesses to prove she was raped
So its like accusing 4 other men at the same time (assuming they saw and permitted).

>Washington didn't write any of the founding documents.
Yea he was just the first President ever.

No big deal.

If this is true then why do Europeans care so much about this? Who gives a shit if they enforce sharia among themselves while leaving whites alone?

>Who gives a shit if they enforce sharia among themselves
Because a religion shouldn't be a government and a government ought not compete in legislating and governing with a religion.

Also, police have no right to investigate or arrest you if you're not in their 'jurisdiction'. Really makes you think why Islam courts and law are so important in establishing....

The actual law is you need 4 men as witnesses if you have no other evidence.

So if a woman came to the court with bruise marks, ripped clothing, she wouldn't need any witnesses.

But is some crazy feminist started accusing everyone of raping her without any proof, she would need atleast 4 male witnesses.

Oh you baby

You really deserve an
>american education

Washington wasn't the ideologue of American independence - that was Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, Adams and Jay - he was a military commander and was made first president as a figurehead because he was already famous from having fought for the British in the French and Indian Wars. Also, the presidency wasn't the all-powerful position it is now. It was equal with the judiciary and legislature, and, in practice, less important than the legislature.

>No big deal.
That came off as very petulant.

They are extremists who want executions back and death to all who is against isl*m
Those goatfuckers can go all fuck themselves. I've actually beaten 3 of them up with a baseball bat just yesterday. You should do the same to those edgy gangsters if you're man enough.

>the US Government is already Jewish
>they don't want competition from other religions
Really makes you think. The Sharia system is way better desu. The federal government should focus on important things like the economy. And leave dumb social things to individual people and their own religious courts, like marriage, divorce, etc.../

>Washington wasn't the ideologue of American independence
>The Revolutionary Wars most famous General
>His portrait replaces the the British King's in Rip Van Winkle
You come off as very petulant.

Just admit it, the United States is and intended to be a secular government.

>(((atacuck))) supporters
Inshallah Erdogan will make a concentration camp for these shabbos goyim. Muslims in turkey need to take their country back from the liberal degenerates

>The federal government should focus on important things like the economy. And leave dumb social things to individual people and their own religious courts, like marriage, divorce, etc.../
I don't want to give the federal government my tax money. I want to give it to my imam.

Also, I dont want roads.

You should only pay taxes if you receive government services desu. I don't want to pay for Shaniquas 10 nigglets.

>The federal government should focus on important things like the economy. And leave dumb social things to individual people and their own religious courts, like marriage, divorce, etc.../

Lot of places with their own local law system it actually helps remove the burden from the poorly staffed legal system.

Because "SHARIA LAW IN OUR COUNTRY!" is red meat for nationalists

Fuck off honorless Alamancı son of a whore. All you can do is keep crying from the country you ran away to like a weeping dog.

I'm not turkish and don't know what that is. But Turkey really is starting to look like some SJW liberal shithole with all these faggots and homos demanding rights. If I were Erdogan I'd delcare martial law and do door to door raid and executions on anyone who didn't vote for him.

>I don't want to pay for Shaniquas 10 nigglets.
And Shariah law wont force you to give a tithe?

This time the IRS doesn't ask you to pay back +interest they cut your hand off.

Jesus it's higher than that in the UK wtf

Marriage and divorce is inextricably linked with the economy and government interest. The notion that two parties can be wed to form a lasting union almost guaranteed to produce future laborers (a child), which will increase the wealth of the country, is of prudent interest to the country.
To this end, nations will provide incentives for people to marry and have children. You know them as deductibles on your taxes, and taxes are often calculated differently when married and filing jointly.

If you don't think that almost all facets of society are of prudent government interest, then you're either delusional or not thinking hard enough.

>You come off as very petulant.
Disagreeing with you isn't petulant. You should have verified what that word means before you used it.

>The Revolutionary Wars most famous General
I said that.

>His portrait replaces the the British King's in Rip Van Winkle
I don't know what this means.

You understand that being a military commander is different to legislating, right? He didn't write the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, which is what my initial contention was, which you tried to refute with reference to Washington having been president.

>the United States is and intended to be a secular government.
In the sense that it's not a theocracy, yes. However, to say that it is not "in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" is untrue, when it clear holds "these truths to be self-evident, that all men.....are endorsed by their Creator..."

In Sharia, you only pay taxes for the things you actually use. Like in America I don't even use medicare, and i gotta pay taxes for it. Like wtf. Also in sharia property taxes are haram, and you only get taxed for trade and the wealth you do not use productively. So if Schlomo Shekelberg is hording $10 billion and he doesn't use it and is just hiding it in some bank, it'll get taxed. But If I earn $60,000, and spend all of it on productive things, I will have 0% taxes.

I don't give a shit about sjws and faggots. I wouldn't mind if they all get executed. But first I want to kick away all those ugly braindead mudslimes in burqas who migrated from arabic countries.

To add onto this, it is also highly dangerous to allow your laws to be arbitrarily decided upon by an armchair theologist. I say ``armchair theologist'', because it is asinine for a man to claim to understand what God truly wants, and not be confused by a translation of God's words. It is also asinine to base your laws on an unchanging document.

This would be magnitudes worse than the rape of the very clear wording of the Second Amendment.

I guess that's true. But what about marriages that are guaranteed to fail. If some nigger has 10 babies, we all know they are not gonna be productive, but they still get welfare for every baby they have.

A pure traditional family is gonna raise their kids to be productive laborers. A homo cultural marxist family is not.

I just want the quffar to be eradicated from Anatolia desu. Before they turn it into pic related. Hopefully Erdogod does that.

Where does it say the creator as in the father of Christ? There is nothing Christian in there. It's deist like the writers of this document.

>erdogan imports poor arabs into the country
>knows it will make the meme tengri nationalists and the cult-of-ataturk kemalists buttmad
>knows they will lash out at random people, knows that will repel the western-style liberals and probably the kurds

Unironically the most skilled politician in the world today

The government isn't allowed to discriminate. We can only have faith that the majority of people who take advantage of the benefits we offer will provide a return greater than those who leech off them.

Supposing the worst case scenario occurs, and we no longer benefit from having so many children, we can take the tax benefits away, discouraging marriage and childbirth.

In the first place, the people you're talking about aren't married and don't take advantage of taxes (nor do they pay them).

Welfare is a different question altogether. Welfare is definitely of prudent government interest, but application requires deep thought.

youtube.com/watch?v=k3r1kD5julk

Rather than theologists, you'd have judges. For example theologists in the Islamic Golden Age weren't some random priest or imam who gave sermons. They were judges and lawyers equivalent to that of the supreme court.

Going by the original logic with being productive to the economy. Every law should be made with the idea of increasing the productivity of a nation. So SJW homo welfare laws would be removed and we'd get to bring back slavery for criminals and force them to work on low skilled jobs. Also allow cloning and stem cell research as well by that reasoning.

Show me conclusive evidence that one of the Founders was a Deist.

With Madison, there's some ambiguity, whilst Franklin, Adams, Hamilton and Jay, for example, all explicitly referred to themselves as Christians.

This is where I think the government is now some bureaucratic retards who create dumb liberal ideas which make completely no sense when taking in the scientific reality of how humans behave.

This is like a machine that can be made more efficient but liberals don't want to make it so cause "muh tolerance" "muh hooman rights".

A common sense way to do it would be to have different sets of laws apply to people. So people who are unskilled and are literally niggers would follow a set of laws different to people who have proper traditional families and contribute to society.
>pic related, but the last quote

The same laws will not have the same effects on people with different culture. Rather we'd give tax benefits to people who can successful raise children(i.e by living a traditional lifestyle where they wait till marriage to start a nuclear family), and would have punishments in the form of higher taxes for people who live decadent lifestyles that are a burden to the economy.

Something like this would make a lot more sense. Similar to training a group of dogs. Dogs that behave properly are rewarded. Dogs that do not behave properly are punished. What america does would be to give all the dogs a reward if the average of them behaves properly, and punish all the dogs if an average of them behave badly. By this they also punish the dogs that behave properly, or reward bad dogs when they behave badly.

Laws need to take in the reality of human nature and psychology.

The Founding Fathers were (((Freemasons))) Oy vey!

The problem with Traditionalism is that for its lasting application, it requires eternal empathy from the upper class to the lower class; more well known as noblesse oblige.

History doesn't reflect this, and certainly not for any long stretch of time. American democracy is the longest standing single government institution in modern history. Today, there is no government older than ours. All of the other monarchies are dead or neutered, because the peasants don't feel the love from those who should be supporting them from above.

There's no way Turkey to turn into a liberalist socialist shithole like europe with segregationism and it's way more civilized than islamism
Polarizing a country is never a good political move you stupid burger and this will probably end up with a civil war just like it did in 70's (you amerifats were actually founding and supporting us nationalists against communist scum back in those days if you didnt know)

Half the cucks are already liberals atacucks. Secularism=Judaism. Erdogan will make Anatolia great again.

Muslims that come here usually don't speak English. So they learn Dutch before English.

But we don't have sharia shit here. Unlike our neighboring countries the Netherlands never abandons neighborhoods to foreigners. Instead we send an army of social workers to it.

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wew lad

My question is why Europeans seem to insist on bringing them to your doorsteps before making them learn the prerequisite skills (language) to survive.

In the 1980's when Southeast Asian refugees flooded America, we had them stay in the Phillipines for up to a year to learn English, do background checks, etc. before we shipped them all around America.
They all (or at least, their children) seem to be doing fairly well for themselves.

You don't know shit about the political situation in our country but you keep talking. All the liberal atacucks and some of the retarded k*rds vote for CHP (eventhough most of the turks who vote for it hate k*rds too) but actual segregationst militants vote for MHP

desu i just don't like quffar and will always vote for what they don't like

People say our opposition is divided because sanders and clinton disagreed about the minimum wage by like $2 and people are mean to each other online

Your opposition is like five different factions that have almost nothing in common and used to firebomb each other's restaurants in the 80s

Erdo can rule forever by looking less bad for the kurds/commies than the nationalists would be, constantly telling the seculars he's not as bad as gulen/saadet party etc

The Moroccans and Turks that came here in the early days were seasonal workers that were supposed to go back after they were done.
But the left wing decided they could stay if they wanted. After which they became unemployed and raised children without parenting them, turning the children into radicals.

Then for the next decades new Turks and Moroccans kept pouring in due to people bringing their family over and marrying people from their home country. And this kept going and going without anybody saying a thing about it.

These days it's not easy to get into the Netherlands as a foreigner. You pretty much need to be invited over by an employer. And then you need to be here for five years to get citizenship. And this rarely happens.

Unless.. you guessed it.. you are a refugee. Everyone from countries with warzones are welcome in Europe. There is no limit to the amount of people we welcome. So entire Syria, Sudan, Somalia and so on can move to Europe if they wish.

Why do they let refugees in? Because of a post-WW2 human rights treaty that politicians are afraid to change. Who wants to be the radical politician that abandons human rights treaties?

The problem is also that Europe has common borders. So when national politicians from Europe try to get a European solution they have to find a consensus with conservative Poles, autocrat Germans, progressive Swedes, communist Greeks, liberal Dutch people and what not. Which is impossible. Because in the 28 countries all political spectrums are represented.

It doesn't seem like a terrible stretch of the imagination for them to all head to UN protected camps in the border of Syria, learn whatever language is necessary, do background checks, and then ship them off to Europe.
At least then you would be able to filter refugees out from the source and only get the ones that weren't complete drains on society.

That's what the Dutch government proposed in the EU.
Accept no migrants into Europe that come here by themselves.
Set up camps outside of Europe for screening.
And stet a max number of refugees per year that can get into Europe.
Our government suggested that the entirety of Europe takes a maximum of 140.000 refugees I believe.
By comparison, Sweden receveived 163.000 refugees in 2015.

Of course the proposal was shot down.

Then our government suggested leaving the Schengen area and starting a Germanic union instead. But the Germans didn't like that one either.

*set
*received

It was probably the maximum number that got it refused.

It's sad, really. Any common sense solution gets shut down, because of the pro-immigration extremists that shout people down with calls of 'racist', etc. Then the people who don't agree with that are forced to the opposite extreme and nobody talks to anyone.

The European Commission didn't want to reject refugees that came here by themselves I believe.

The Dutch government also proposed to consider Turkey a safe country. So all refugees could be deported back to Turkey. But of course in Greece a court overruled it, so the only country that has to deport people to Turkey, Greece, cannot do it.

%12 and half of them dont even know what sharia is. they said they dont want legalization of polygamy when they were asked.

dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/09/prime-minister-firm-on-dutch-refugee-plan-expects-eu-support/
dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/11/dutch-consider-mini-schengen-zone-to-cut-refugee-influx/
middleeastobserver.org/2016/06/12/eu-turkey-is-safe-country-for-refugees-to-stay-in/
aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/netherlands-plan-ferry-refugees-turkey-160128170612335.html
washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/01/a-dutch-architects-plan-to-put-europes-refugees-on-a-man-made-island-near-tunisia/

You can't say we haven't tried.

>That's what the Dutch government proposed in the EU.
>Accept no migrants into Europe that come here by themselves.
>Set up camps outside of Europe for screening.
>And stet a max number of refugees per year that can get into Europe.
>Our government suggested that the entirety of Europe takes a maximum of 140.000 refugees I believe.
>By comparison, Sweden receveived 163.000 refugees in 2015.

That's a shitty idea

Oh yeah, we suggested another plan to invade Syria to settle the war once and for all.

That one didn't work out either.

wtf I love Holland now!

that last one is pretty badass gotta say

lel nice

That's why many Dutch people dislike the EU. In the Netherlands we can always come to quick pragmatic solutions. In the EU it's just all talk while the problems run out of hand.

First totaalvoetbal, now this! The Germans ruin everything.

There of a video of muslims blocking streets in Paris in La Goutte d'or and Barbes, stopping people from filming (allowed in France on the street and at public events) etc. It's from 2010 I think.

> The US intended to be a secular government.
I don't think you realise what a secular government implies in a liberal state. The US couldn't be a real theocracy because their religion don't have any real clergy and was split among countless 'denominations'.
The US were founded as a secular state in accordance with the Middle Ages meaning of the term, but still founded on the 'Christian religion'.

Is this why all the most hideous shitskin east anatolians line up at dutch consulate?

Why do you think we must take them here? Do you think syrians are our problem?

Come on 140k for all Europe is basically nothing.
There are millions of Syrians that were displaced in the civil war.

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