>Originally, Ridley Scott revealed that he is planning three sequels to Prometheus, eventually leading into the first Alien film. At the same time Scott stated: "Maybe [there will] even [be] a fourth film before we get back into the Alien [storyline]."[50] Scott confirmed in November 2015, that Alien: Covenant would be the first of three films before linking up with the original Alien,[51][52] and stated that the Prometheus sequels will reveal who created the xenomorph aliens.[53]
Who cares? Stick your Alien reloaded up your fat ass.
Bentley Parker
How do these Hollywood types manage to wedge their heads so firmly up their anuses?
Gavin Sullivan
Funny thing is that Ridley and the writers wanted to do Prometheus more like an Alien film, but the suits said "no, it shouldnt be another franchise entry, it must be a new product with its own mythos and themes".
For once they wanted to risk something.
and they were right
Jonathan Sanders
>4 of these pieces of shit shitting up my aliums movies
kill me f.am
James Jones
You dont speak for me.
I wanted this.
Ma nigga. Finally some originality, not tired old reboots.
>HOW DARE CAMERON CHANGE SOME THINGS >WTF RIDLEY SCOTT IS CHANGING THINGS
Has Sup Forums ever been right?
Nicholas Flores
hopefully he'll be dead before a third happens
Cooper Reed
These never work out.
We still havent gotten fucking Avatar 2 yet of how many planned? 6?
Jeremiah Jones
Did prometheus change established lore or why does everyone hate it? I've only seen 1 and 2 so explain
Dylan Moore
Pseudo-cinephiles hate it, because the character of Shaw didnt escape the falling spaceship by rolling to the side.
You dont need to have autism to understand the idea.
Xavier Green
>and stated that the Prometheus sequels will reveal who created the xenomorph aliens. I thought the Engineers did....
Zachary Hernandez
Did you not watch Prometheus?
See any xenomorphs?
Levi Robinson
>Did you not watch Prometheus? Yes.
>See any xenomorphs? Yes.
I thought the Engineers created them. The one we see at the end was born out of an Engineer. That led me to believe they've seen what the black goop does to their own kind, and fear them as death bringers, hence all the xenomorph statues and tributes in the goop vase room. A warning to all those who enter.
Daniel Russell
Typical. Someone didnt understand the film and hates it.
Hudson Jackson
Okay so are Xenomorphs EXCLUSIVELY the black ones from the Alien movies? Did they not come from the goo?
Daniel Gutierrez
>Someone didnt understand the film and hates it. Who said I hated Prometheus? I actually really liked that movie. Even rewatched it last night when someone made a thread about it.
Now correct my understanding since you're oh so enlightened.
Carson Hughes
movie wise, everyone thats a fan of Alien/Aliens lore on the xenos are mostly ignoring Prometheus.
Comics wise, DH got the Prometheus IP so they went fuck it and added it into their AVP universe. 1 badass predator with a death wish thats hunted everything damn determined to hunt down an Engineer I'll tell ya that
Zachary Ramirez
Seeing Prometheus was just the saddest shit ever.
Talented filmmaking by somebody who clearly just doesn't give a fuck anymore. You can make pretty movies Scott, but the fire clearly died a long time ago, they all feel like empty husks.
Jordan Lopez
Not really directed at you, but your post made me want to ask this question since I'm not too familiar with the lore.
Does Predator and Alien actually take place in the same universe, or was all the mixed universe media kinda just for shits and giggles?
Carter Sullivan
The PROBLEM was he got le LOST man to write the script.
Daniel Campbell
This thread is making me want to rewatch it again tonight... if this rally I'm tuned in to doesn't kick off soon I'm saying fuck it and throwing on Michael Fassbender: The Movie
Lincoln Myers
>4 fucking movies to explain the backstory to a movie that didn't need any backstory at all
FUCK OFF, RIDLEY, YOU SENILE HACK
Blake Gray
>4 of these pieces of shit shitting up my alium movie
>Aliens >Alien Resurrection >AvP >Avp2
Yup. 4 pieces of shit.
Elijah Ward
The comics at least they did a few Aliens only comics (following end of Aliens with Ripley and the gang making it back to Earth and Earth getting infested with xenos) and a few Predators on comics (Detective Schrieffer killing Preds by the dozens)
Once Predator 2 came out and DH did the AVP comic from then on everything was shared universe.
Once Cameron mentioned that Avatar was/is supposed to be canon to Alien they pretty much joked that as soon as they get the rights to make Avatar comics preds and xenos are coming to Pandora
Cooper Williams
>why does everyone hate it? Because it was an obvious setup for a franchise that tried to be smart by throwing a bunch of pseuedintellectual questions into the plot and leaving the answers to a sequel.
It didn't really do anything new or interesting, and didn't even function well as a complete movie. But, it looked really nice.
Blake Smith
Alien > Prometheus Special Edition (agent 9 or a9 fanedit) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aliens>theatrical prometheus>shit>the rest
Asher Johnson
Why do I keep seeing this kitter posted? Who is he and who keeps taking pictures of him!?
>Once Predator 2 came out and DH did the AVP comic from then on everything was shared universe. Huh. I really should look into the lore. Probably should rewatch all the older movies too; it's been a while.
>Once Cameron mentioned that Avatar was/is supposed to be canon to Alien they pretty much joked that as soon as they get the rights to make Avatar comics preds and xenos are coming to Pandora Jesus fucking Christ pls no. >remember that fag plans on making like 7 total Avatar films Oh shit, it's going to happen, isn't it? Fuck...
Jace Scott
>watching fan edits
Jordan Russell
What was the black goo?
Bentley Gray
>Prometheus underperformed so bad he decided he needed the explicit Alien title for the sequel
Sebastian Long
biological weapon/shitty plot device
Wyatt Ramirez
Why do the "artificial person"'s heads come off so easily? Shouldn't Weyland be looking into that glaring design flaw?
William Hall
This, desu.
There is only 1.5 good Alien movies. Alien and Alien 3: Assembly Cut.
A3: AC only gets a half because they basically had to remake it later.
Evan Evans
it took a 12 foot tall alien to rip off David's head a few good shots to the head with a fire extinguisher for Ash
yeah, they do need to be a bit stronger
Jaxon Rivera
>Prometheus Special Edition (agent 9 Anywhere that I can download this? I just looked it up and I'd love to give it a watch.
Connor Allen
>yfw mid-movie a chestburster rips out of a human and it becomes a stealth Alien crossover
Jaxson Turner
Aliens is a God tier flick you pretentious cunt.
Charles Powell
People are stupid. Hot molten metal Falling like rain and they suggested she roll to the side which would be dumb because she's only in the shadow of the ship because of the falling molten debris rain. Then they said eventually WE the viewers noticed the debris showers ending, yeah but by that time Shaw was fleeing from the ship and only thought of running from death in its shadow just like people on 911 did.
Landon Harris
I liked Prometheus a lot. Possibly it'd have been better as a stand alone creation. Astronauts in search of the beings that started life didn't especially need face-huggers, it's the films achilles heel. I'm looking forward to seeing where the survivor ends up as she follows her destiny.
Oliver Nelson
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Jose Perez
I've never seen Alien 3.
Should I?
Alexander Baker
gay and retarded
Anthony Taylor
No.
Adrian Hill
K. Thanks user.
Jaxon Sanders
It's an engineered break-point. If it is going to fail, it is better for it to fail where you want it to. In this case, at the neck. Easier to repair/reassemble.
Landon Ramirez
Yes
Nolan Turner
No.
Carter Turner
torrent, there is a 4.1gb version around. I still need to find the 25gb one
Evan Richardson
I am so glad Ridley Scott is not directing the new Blade Runner.
In fact, he being the producer is the only thing I am afraid of. Him whining "I didn't imagine this that way" all the time and changing shit.
All of the other in cast and crew are currently in full kino delivery form.
Ethan Allen
Ridley Scott should reboot Alien 3.
Christian Bailey
Assembly Cut is arguably the best thing in the franchise.
Benjamin Baker
>Once Cameron mentioned that Avatar was/is supposed to be canon to Alien source or it didn't happen
Jason Sanders
I don't want to wait until August
Nathaniel Hill
Maybe. My hunch is that they made a lot of last minute editing decisions, and the movie suffered for it.
This could have easily been a 10/10 movie with some adjustments
Levi Hill
Because of its preachy blunt as fuck pro abortion message.
Nolan Parker
>Did prometheus change established lore
Yes it did.
Engineers are now smaller than in Alien.
The original Engineer that crashed on LV-426 was fossilized. Implying a much longer period that xenomorphs existed than the 2,000 year timespan given in Prometheus when proto-xenos existed.
Prometheus ship is older than the ship in Alien, but looks significantly newer in terms of technology.
A myriad of creatures now spawn from black goo rather than facehuggers from eggs.
Isaiah Bennett
Sounds shit
Alexander Rivera
Why did the Engineer look so different from humans despite having 100% human DNA?
Never understood it.
Brody Edwards
>The original Engineer that crashed on LV-426 was fossilized. It wasn't actually fossilized, that was just a space trucker talking out of his ass
Ethan Harris
>have the perfect script >but maybe it's a little too good >yeah, it's actually solid gold and would be the perfect prequel to Alien, we can't have that >get Lindelof on the phone >make all the characters completely, unforgivably retarded >take all these explanations and motivations out, just leave it blank, they'll think we're being deep >old man weyland foot massage lmao Why did it happen like this?
Xavier Hernandez
We both have 100% human DNA but I don't look like you.
Julian Gomez
Too easy to blame Lindelorf for everything. At the end of the day Scott was the director and had creative control.
Angel Rodriguez
We both look human.
He did not. The differences aren't explained by a different habitat.
Carson Perry
they don't look that different, they're just tall, pale and bald.
Aiden Collins
>Engineers are now smaller than in Alien. When are we ever given a direct size for them in Alien?
>The original Engineer that crashed on LV-426 was fossilized. Implying a much longer period that xenomorphs existed than the 2,000 year timespan given in Prometheus when proto-xenos existed. What proto-xeno are you talking about? And there's no evidence it was fossilized besides the word of a space trucker.
>Prometheus ship is older than the ship in Alien, but looks significantly newer in terms of technology. You do realize that the Prometheus is meant to be a state-of-the-art scientific research vessel that had a trillion dollars poured into it, right? The Nostromo was nothing more than an old space tugboat. Of course the tech is going to be different. One is designed to function and not really look pretty, while the other is designed to look pretty and function.
>A myriad of creatures now spawn from black goo rather than facehuggers from eggs. I don't know what you're talking about here.
Andrew Smith
I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Wigley Scott went into Prometheus wanting to make a 'Chariots of the Gods' adaptation and the connection to Alien came later.
Jaxon Clark
>kitter please kill yourself
Ryan Clark
It's just a stupid movie that thinks it's brilliant.
jfc, just make a miniseries, same with all the Avatar sequels
Dylan Ortiz
I generally liked Prometheus, and the concept behind it. I have no opposition to seeing more. The one criticism I see right off the bat however, it the way the idea of a mystery creator is done. As an audience member, my ability to be curious about who the creator is, is limited by the fact that the universe as a while is largely unwritten and I have no investment in whoever the possible suspects are. Granted the movies aren't here yet, but it seems unlikely that they will fix this. It seems most likely that the creator will be some new guy introduced in that specific film, with no real prior clues, so it could literally be anything and it wouldn't make any difference.
Joshua Edwards
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Bentley White
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Liam Bell
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Eli Rodriguez
>Aliens >shit >not Alien 3 Really?
Jonathan Jackson
Nah, the first two are enough.
Not even close. I could understand some people liking it better than Aliens, but saying it comes anywhere close the the original is just wrong.
Jordan Johnson
>putting Aliens behind any version of Prometheus. Wew Lad.
Brody Price
Tell me that this doesn't look and sound like a better version of the film:
Oh I'm not saying that the fan edit is better than the original Prometheus friend. I haven't seen it, but would love to and believe that it is. But Saying it's better than Aliens is something I find doubtful.
Cooper Thomas
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Kevin Phillips
>the Prometheus sequels will reveal who created the xenomorph aliens How are you niggers not excited? fucking contrarians
Lincoln Sanchez
>When are we ever given a direct size for them in Alien? Never. When were we told they were humanoid, small, non-bi-organic and wearing a suit in Alien?
As much as I love Prometheus, it's an embarrassment as far as the Alien series is concerned and those points are all retcons of established canon which you seem to be giving passes too because you're biased.
Jace White
Its not a retcon if it wasn't established otherwise in the first film.
Jayden Mitchell
True but it's a retcon when it shits on almost every other piece of lore established since Alien was released, including everything set by the comics, books, compilations (which includes the AvP crossover comics and the crossover of the crossovers [Alien v Predator v Terminator, Dredd vs Aliens etc])
David Cook
>incoherent mess >characters have no motivations to do half of the shit they do >"omg robots r human too lol so deep" >"who created our maker????? omg so deep" >hi, i am a biologist you've never seen before in the movie even though apparently i've been part of the crew since take-off, and now i'm going to proceed to get absolutely mad as fuck for no reason whatsoever, essentially screwing myself and the team in the process >most tedious evolutionary process ever seen (man have sex with black oil = squid; squid then have sex with engineer = kiddy xenomorph; also there are some black dicks penetrating people because a worm had sex with black oil) >how do you like your alien lore and consistency senpai?
Brody Barnes
>why does everyone hate it?
Because of Jesus Christ.
Zachary Murphy
Those are all auxillary though. Like most extended universes that spawn from movies and TV, they're not really on the same level of canon.
Logan Robinson
For the most part it atleast gives a brief outline to the universe and things in it. Plus it adds a set of rules that most of the setting follows and sticks to. IMHO Prometheus is the TFA of the Alien verse. It answers nothing, is nice to look at but creates more questions and disjoints the already disjointed lore. All this for nothing more than faggots wanting $$$.
James Rodriguez
Problem with Prometheus isn't that shit isn't explained, it's that none of it makes sense
Gabriel Murphy
The random nobodies who made Alien Isolation did a better Alien movie than neo-Ridley.
Parker King
Don't understand the point of putting 'Alien' in the title if it's another prequel.I liked it being in its own bubble despite it being in the same continuity as the Alien series.I guess it's a marketing thing.
Oliver Clark
Thing is, if you don't think Prometheus is a good movie then why the hell do you like Alien?
Jose Peterson
Anyone else really like the design of the engineer? Really creepy
Jayden Sullivan
And the four hour behind the scenes footage shows Lindelof showing up every day during pre production making more script changes based on Scott's notes.
Brody Myers
the third best movie in the alien world
Carter Brooks
Who cares, it's something to look forward to and I'd rather the studio funds this than another dull pointless capeshit film
kys
Asher Reyes
Alien is standard sci-fi horror with an iconic big bad and easily follow-able plot.
Prometheus is stock standard sci-fi with a jumbled plot, no interesting characters or monsters and an even less interesting "villain".
The fact that Ridley had to explain many of the main plot points in interviews discussing Prometheus should show how vastly different they are as movies even though they're in the same universe.
Carson Baker
>It seems most likely that the creator will be some new guy introduced in that specific film, with no real prior clues, so it could literally be anything and it wouldn't make any difference.
The Xeno creator is obviously going to be David.
>The crew of the colony ship Covenant discover what they think is an uncharted paradise, but it is actually a dark, dangerous world, whose sole inhabitant is the synthetic David, survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.
Angel White
I'll add to that; nothing bad that happens in alien is the result of stupidity