/NFL/ General: BTFO Edition

KC:Kareem Hunt to become Chiefs feature back?
LAC:Chargers WR Allen runs routes at full speed
TB:Bucs ink Ryan Fitzpatrick as veteran backup
OAK:'No update' on Gareon Conley's legal status
LAR:Rams stadium opening delayed until 2020
IND:Colts first-rounder Malik Hooker signs deal
TB:Evans: DeSean Jackson will be 'very helpful'
DEN:Joseph: Decision-making 'major factor' at QB
SF:Joe Williams has 'legit chance' to usurp Hyde
FA:FA Vince Wilfork refuses to say he's retired
WAS:Jay Gruden 'impressed' with Samaje Perine
ARZ:Deone Bucannon (ankle) questionable for Wk 1

Fuck da raidahs.

That game was GOAT

>mfw I hyped up my teams first round pick in my mind and just realized there's a good chance he'll be a bust

I don't know what expectations I should have for Jamal Adams in year 1

He should be good, maybe even a droty contender, but I'm worried the struggles the team will have will hurt his development or make him look bad.

This year will be good for the jaguars

they say that every year. Jags will never be a +win team with barfles at QB

I know that one day the jaguars will be a good team

>hearing mumblings that muh Cardinals are looking healthier and more alive
>Bucannon is already fucking questionable

So this team is by design is made to be JUST isn't?

Loins

We're finally winning the division this year

Fuck off Puckers

>tfw you get excited to see how your new draft picks will be but then you realize football is still months away

>rewatch SBLI
>see that Brady actually played like shit
>had at least three or four more passes that should been picked off

Stop the worship. He's a part of the a good system.

what bothers me is the defense get no credit from pat fans

they dominated the #1 offense in the second half, holding them to 7 points and forcing the big fumble and pat fans even blame the defense for the pick six its fucking stupid.

the packers gave them a 4 game head start last season and they still couldnt do it

WHy do the Raiders think getting Marshawn Lynch is a good idea?

Remember the 1st of Brady's 2 4th Q TD passes against Seattle in SB 49? Before that play Brady *missed Edelman and Collinsworth made a big deal about what an inaccurate pass it was.

This was perfect to me, as the game ended with a QB making an accurate pass that was picked off. But Brady may not have actually missed that throw, but was being careful because he saw a flash of a CB out of the corner of his eye he wasn't sure about. This is what Brady does. He's careful, as opposed to someone like Brett Farve, who I think ended his teams season with a dumb INT in the playoffs like 15 straight seasons.


The point being that once they had to go all out and try to make a huge comeback, Brady couldn't play this way, and he had to take chances he usually wouldn't. Any back-shoulder throw is a potential INT, and it risky. Brady threw about 20 in SB51.

Every QB throws INTs, pretty much except Brady. Yes, he is part of a good system, but remember his head coach had a full 7 seasons without Tom Brady as his QB and made the playoffs only one time (with one playoff win, against Drew Bledsoe's Pats). But keep saying he's not that good. Heck, say Manning is better.

Just give us the fucking ring at the end of the season and we don't give a crap.

>and pat fans even blame the defense for the pick six
why are you making shit up online lmfao

salty motherfucker

>TB:Bucs ink Ryan Fitzpatrick as veteran backup
RIP Jameis Winston may you steal crab legs from the big grocery store in the sky

Belichick would have won more Owls with Peyton than Brady.

>implying
Belichick is a Brady babby

>has had a year off to recuperate
>running behind a top 2 OL
>splitting load with three other RBs and a fullback
>mentor for aforementioned runners
>high-powered passing offense takes even more burden off of him
>strong veteran presence in the locker room, much like Charles Woodson and Justin Tuck were

Honestly how is it a bad one? Worst case they bench Lynch in favor of Richard and Washington and the Raiders' offense continues churning like it did last year.

Peyton always preferred to be the main signal caller. Manning ran his offenses. Im not saying Brady doesnt change the play when he needs to, hes an experienced vet who can recognize some bullshit when he sees it but Belichick is the GUY in New England. If Brady ran enough bullshit audibles, Belicheck would have something to say about it.If Manning ran enough bullshit audibles, got half his WR corps killed in the process, the Coach would figuratively apologize to him and say theyd do better

>Jameis gets injured
>Loses job to the Harvard Conman
>Comes down to Arizona's QB-less wasteland
>No beach fronts anywhere, so no temptation to steal crabs
>Cruise control to owl

he's related to JaMarcus Russell
that's bad enough

i think you pat fans don't appreciate bellichick

once he and brady are gone you're going to realize what you had was special

I hate the Pats m8 but if Belichick was truly this genius everyone says how come he didn't set the world on fire with the Browns?

because he's a better coach now then he was back then

Who knows how things would have been if the Browns hadn't fired him.

LAC:Chargers WR Allen runs routes at full speed
I just want to see him last the year. rivers deserves it.

Do you remember
shitpostin back in september?
Swearin your team was a contender
While choking big leads away

Our hearts were ringing
In the key that our souls were singing.
As we danced in the night,
Remember how the stars stole the night away

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - divisional title was a win away

Ba duda, ba duda, ba duda, badu
Ba duda, badu, ba duda, badu
Ba duda, badu, ba duda

My thoughts are skewed
because the pain is continued
only needed a field goal
wide right, bounced off the pole

Now December found the pain we shared in the playoffs .
Only rage and hatred, elites scoff
Remember the delusion

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - a super bowl ring was a few months away

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - golden dreams were shiny days

The bell was ringing, aha
Our souls were singing
Do you remember
Never a cloudy day

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - never thought of a season ending play

There was a
Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - shitposting in September
Ba de ya - that ring was just a game away

Ba de ya de ya de ya
Ba de ya de ya de ya
ba de ya de ya de ya
De ya

Ba de ya de ya de ya
Ba de ya de ya de ya
ba de ya de ya de ya

Will Watson even get playing time in the first year? Savage is probably still the go to starter while Watson tries out for the position, right?

Rebuilding actually took time back then, but he did have some success.

Did you know the Consecutive Passes W/O and INT streak Brady broke a few years back was a record set by Belichick's Browns? In fact, Belichick did the same thing he did with Brady and Bledsoe when he replaced Kosar with Vinny Testaverde. Now Testaverde was literally the laughingstock of the NFL. Came to Cleveland with Bill and ended up being a Pro Bowl QB with Parcells Jets. (I remember watching one game in disbelief that the Pats simply couldn't even slow the Vinnie Jets down, much less stop them.

He took over a 3-13 team and by year 4 they had the #1 Defense and won a playoff game (beating Bill Parcells - who NEVER won a playoff game without Bill Belichick on his staff - not one). Everyone concedes that the 1995 season should have no reflection on Belichick because of what was going on with the team moving to Baltimore. But yeah, he was building a winner there before they pulled the rug out from under him.

Michael Thomas will be a top 5 receiver this year

he doesn't understand playcalling.

Just go back and watch him on the Gruden Camp, he had no fucking idea what he was supposed to say.

Pick 47 (Rd 2): Michael Thomas
Pick 59 (Rd 2): Roberto Aguayo
Pick 135 (Rd 4): Dak Prescott
Pick 150 (Rd 5): Jordan Howard
Pick 165 (Rd 5): Tyreek Hill
Pick 180 (Rd 6): Moritz Böhringer

Truly the master of his talent.

ELITE:
Brady, Rodgers, Wilson

SUB ELITE:
Roethlisberger, Carr, Luck, Ryan, Brees

GREAT/GOOD:
Dalton, Rivers, Prescott, Palmer

GOOD/AVERAGE:
Tannehill, Taylor, Flacco, Smith, Mariota, Wentz, Manning, Stafford, Hoyer

MANAGER:
McCown, Kessler, Bortles, Cousins, Bradford, Goff, Newton

SHIT: Siemian, Savage, Glennon, Winston

The packers had an easy as shit schedule at the end of their season while Lions had the hardest with no defense and an offensive line that was shit

People always seem to forget that the foundation for that 2000 Ravens team was laid down by Bellicheck when the the team was still in Cleveland. In all honesty, the Browns would probably be what the Patriots are now if Art Model wasn't such a controlling cunt

better to be a specialist than jack of all trades :^)

>carr and luck
>sub elite
carr isa bt below great/good and luck is good/average

Don't take the bait

>There was an alternate Universe with Belichick, Ray Lewis, and Tom Brady all on the same team
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR!

>BB & Ozzie working head to head
How many rings?

Pfft ok

Yeah but will the aints make the playoffs?

Five easy. Most of the NFC and AFC were a joke in the early 2000s

>this power ranking

> Cam
> consistently threading the needle in tight windows
> 52.9% completion

Woah dere

That doesn't make sense. Peyton called plays, and made changes at the line and all that. That's not Belicheck's style, and it would negate the "system" either way.

lsu fan, been watching him for three years. he's the real deal, he'll make great plays no matter what his teammates do. y'all picked up a baller

>sam bradford higher then matt ryan and dak

ravens

Walrusman is the screen king

these some ice cold takes

>Flacco cannot play under pressure
>literally finished a game with a busted knee

>devolved into a terrible QB
>actually improving with each season
Too many things to imply, but Flacco's the QB I know best and this is bullshit.

My eyes can't unsee this. My brain is now melting from how god awful this evaluation is

>improving with each season

Not 120 million dollar improving. And he's completely correct when he says flacco relies on 50/50 shots. Dudes career has been made on fuck it I'm going deep passes and the PI's that result from them

It's still improvement, not saying that he's the best QB around, but he's putting him down for the wrong reasons.

Not to mention, he hasn't had top talent working with him.
>2013 season
>starting receivers were Jacoby Jones, Torrey Smith and Marlon Brown
>Jones couldn't find another starting job after Baltimore
>Torrey Smith is a sloth
>Marlon Brown is already out of the league

>kirk that low
>winston that high over smeth
>carr that low
>stafford lower than palmer and bradford
>tanneshit that fucking high
>mariota over carr
>cam and luck
holy hell my autism is flaring

kek the guys entire twitter is him defending his shitty list

>subjective evaluation in one line of text

>this list is not based on statistics, wins, or clutch

So it's a shit list

...

>Luck
>Good/average
Confirmed for not having watched a second of Clots football, he's literally our entire team. When he's healthy and makes good decisions he's absolutely elite.

...

>cam newton top 10

It's even funnier when he claims part of the reason is his accuracy

>brady isn't 5

tom brady is a loser lmao

Thank you based Carr

Thank you based Carr

>this is considered "improvement"

>more yards
>better cmp%
>that magical year under Gary Kubiak
It literally is

>more attempts than ever
>worst ypa in his career
>just 20 TDs
>15 picks

He has more yards because he threw the ball 70 more times than any other QB in the league save Brees, yet still was almost dead last among YPA out of every qualified QB.

Oline was dead last season, also reflected in a dead running game. The fact the he had an all time high season in yards and cmp% is beyond me.

He keeps getting better despite the rest of the offense falling apart. Luckily Pitta is back and maybe Ronnie Stanley will give the Oline more stability.

Ravens record with Flacco pre 120 mil contract extension

54-26(67.25%), 1 super bowl win, 2 division titles, 9 playoff wins

Ravens record with Flacco post 120 mil contract extension

31-33(48.44%), 1 playoff win

really makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>lose pretty much every SB starter minus Suggs, Yanda and Flacco
>team declines
really makes me think

on a serious note

at what point does Flacco's honey moon with the ravens end for winning that owl and he actually has to be good again

>all time high in yards

Wow he finally reached 4k yards.

He would've passed for more last year if he didn't get injured.

No doubt these 2016 stats show he's truly elite.

When they reach the playoffs, don't think that will happen with the current coaching staff and Oline
But I'm not saying he's elite

He has actually regressed compared to last year in everything except in his % and his sack rate.

All related to the Oline play, if you saw those games you'd know Flacco was actually playing better despite the circumstances. I think most Ravens fans know that he has become more reliable.


I'm sure some QBs would have handled the situation better than him, but only a handful.

>using bulk stats to show he's improved
>"but he's actually regressed as shown here"
>y-y-you have to watch the games to value how good he was!

He's been mediocre at best, and I've watched him last year. Not every game but enough to see that he wasn't good.

And what do you think about that Oline?

This

It's bad, which doesn't make Flacco's play good.

Think about this, these are the QBs that have retired or will be reitred by 2021
Tony Romo
Jay Cutler
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Carson Palmer
Alex Smith


All these guys will be gone. Most of you grew up with QBs.

Thank you based Carr....

>be seeing you soon.

That's the point, with the Oline playing as poor as they did, coaching staff decided to just throw the ball short and fast, he had no time to go deep despite having speedy recievers like Wallace and Perriman or even make adjustments, yet he still never flinched. I think a fair measure about his improvement is the 2014 season (with Kubiak), and I agree that he seems mediocre, but still much better than 27 and much better than his former self.

When I say only a handful of QBs could have handled the situation better, is because I have seen them do so, and right now I can only think about Rivers and last season's Wilson.

He was way below average in every single metric besides completion percentage. The OL being bad doesn't make him better just because he passed for many yards in 672 attempts. His 4,317 yards and 20 TDs were both the worst marks for any QB with at least 640 passes thrown in NFL history.

which one

Nope, but the Oline playing bad does excuse him for the decline in some stats.
5th

If you had to pick one, I'd say go with the purple ones. They stand out the most. I suppose if you wanted to be a little more old-fashioned though, you could pick those red ones. They seem really lively. Or you could say screw it and pick some of the purple, reds and yellows. Live bold.

the best part for is tannehill has "great pocket awareness"


Bro even dolphins fan will laugh. he is shit at pocket movement

5,2,4,1,3

what would you do to Brett Favre's daughter /nfl/?

Land a plane on her forehead and cast her for the all female reboot of Mask.

> tops and bottoms not matching