So what kind of guns can Americans not buy?

So what kind of guns can Americans not buy?
Seems like everything is pretty much fair game, unless itʻs like a grenade launcher or some shit...

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Rifles, handguns, revolvers...

are you a retard?

Everything can be bought without the $200 tax stamp and the long ass wait(upwards of 10 months for me) except machineguns, short barreled rifles in

forgot suppressors user, mine took 8 months 2016-2017, not sure what the wait time is for NFA at the moment

Depends where you live but yeah anything that isnt an automatic is fair game most places. This is why people are kinda pissed off right now. Any kid straight out of the nut house can get an AR-15 from Walmart then begin firing into a crowd once he gets it. Very few people are saying to completely ban all guns, but saying we should have limits on who can just walk into any store and be approved for a gun isn't exactly unreasonable. But ya know, muh "the libruls gon take muh rights away!!"

Where I live they are working on a "built here, sold here, stays here" law that would allow us to have these without the $200 crap.

Americans cannot buy automatic weapons, nor can they buy military grade weapons

protip: an AR15 is not a military grade weapon unless it's been modified to be fully automatic, which is illegal to purchase as noted above

my hope is that you anti-gun fuckers are the first to starve to death after the EMP attack. if not those of us with guns will take your food and it'll be pretty fuckin easy

please link a walmart that still sells AR15s

(they haven't in decades)

>nytimes.com/2015/08/31/opinion/walmart-decides-to-drop-sale-of-ar-15-assault-rifles.html

It was not even two years ago so yeah still a little out of the loop but not insanely so. Walmart is still the biggest gun retailer in America, which is part of the point of ease of access for any person

>assault rifles

lmfao

what are they supposed to be? "hugs and kisses rifles"??

Hahaha amerifats are cucked out of pic related.

The eternal leaf wins again

Yes, we can buy full auto weapons, it's not easy, cheap, or quick but depending on state we can buy straight up machine guns.

Sub guns had a GE minigun for sale, needed a form 4 in Arizona and $215,000 though.

He failed to read the OP post thoroughly before responding. That doesn't make him a "retard", it makes him careless.

that gun is garbage

It's still garbage you will never own Sendai.

It's actually not bad. Action smoothed out after. 200 rounds

this just has to be bait.

too bad it has to be a post-sample.

depends on the barrel length exactly, we have garbage rods similar that which don't require a stamp.

our import laws are in fact garbage.

Heh, theres no need for such a cowardly weapon as a *chucle* shotgun when you spent your life honing your skills with the blade... I prefer to see the fear in my prey's eyes as I deliver the killing blow

That is heavily dependent on state. All NFA weapons except AOW's are outlawed in Illinois for example

grenade launchers are legal

You have to pass an NCIC check to buy a firearm and fill out paperwork attesting to your medical history. So sure, you could lie on the paperwork and make sure the nuthouse you got out of was a private facility and not a state run one... but then you would also be breaking the law to do so... people that are willing to break the law arent going to follow new ones either fyi

Depends on the paper work you want to do.

Obviously I can't buy an RPG or a tank. But basically everything is on the table given you have the money to pay for it, a clean record, and the time to wait for it.

You actually can buy a tank, including ammo for the main gun, as well as an RPG if you have enough money. You can buy a fighter jet along with missiles as well.

The only things you actually cant buy are the guidance and targeting systems for modern tanks/jets. However if you could find a foreign government to sell you one, you wouldnt even need a tax stamp for it

This is news to me. And I'm not mad at it.

tell me more user

Remember, guns promote healthy bile synthesis and prevent MS.

how do you handle recoil with this grip?

i can buy anything without serial numbers

There are multiple large private tank collections in the US. The main gun would be a registered Destructive Device, as would each round of ammunition for the main gun. ($200 tax stamp for each)

The same for the fighter jet (there are also multiple fighter jet collections in the US. In fact about a year ago someone was selling a 1990s fighter jet on Ebay) Each missile would need a tax stamp, as would its gun and each of its rounds of ammo.

The only problem is you cant buy, regardless of money the targeting or guidance systems. Not because they are illegal to own, but because no company with a US military contract will sell them to anyone other than the US military, and they are never Surplus'ed

We all know "assault rifle" combined with the black furniture makes is super scary. Clearly if it has an oak stock, it's just a humble hunting rifle, regardless if they are both magazine fed semi automatic rifles.

The only reason I knew you could own a tank is because when I was a kid I grew up in a town with a batshit crazy vietnam vet who got his rocks off driving his tank through "downtown" every weekend. There was nothing they could do to stop him so they ended up putting weight limit on the main street so he had to stay on the side streets.

I wonder what ever happened to that old guy

it's also the other features that go into making something an effective military weapon -- everything minus the select fire ability.

we all know what they mean when someone says "assault weapon" or "military-style rifle". they mean a military assault rifle that's had select-fire omitted. that's what all these "scary black" rifles fall under.

gernades? mortors rgps anything explodey i'm sure that'll change in the coming years though

literally everything he military uses. Everything. Americans can not own automatic weapons, regardless of the stupid media leads you to believe that they have military rifles everywhere. The version they can own is a dumbed down, neutered semi auto version with lower power bullets.

It is the duty of each American to assess the danger they may have to protect themselves from and arm themselves accordingly so our choices are as varied as our locations and threat types.

it depends if you want it legally or not

lower power bullets? wtf does that mean? it's all the same. you can buy all manner of different loadings and projectiles at gun stores.

also, have you never heard of a class III license? all kinds of crazy rednecks have one.

.223 and 5.56 NATO are not the same. You can still buy 5.56 NATO ammo, however most of the civilian owned ARs are only certified to fire .223. 5.56 NATO is a "hotter" round and will damage/destroy a cheap .223 rated AR.

>Americans can not own automatic weapons
that's not true, I know someone who legally owns a few full auto rifles

the price of a license, the hoops you need to jump through to get it and finding a range that will let you shoot it is another story.

There is a reason there has never been a crime committed with a legally registered automatic weapon in the US

Yep my wood stock hunting rifles are def not scary lol

you have no point. you can buy whatever loadings you please. you can buy and shoot very hot loadings with heavy bullets if you please. your gun will accept them.

you're arguing litterally nothing.

Hobbe's natural state kek

real man have no need for gun...

Things that make really big booms and things that make lots of small booms very fast unless it's a gun designed to make small booms more slowly but is fitted with device that makes it boom faster

That's the point though isn't it? I live in NJ with serious ass gun laws. Since so many people are ignorant about guns, they think anything that's all black with a pistol grip is the same as that. My friend has a basic AR with a pistol grip, no sight, no foregrip, and a 10 round mag and people are like OMG that's so crazy!

This picture makes me so mad. No woman has a taint that big. Bullshit.

yea, they're really difficult to shoot accurately. plus most gun owners aren't criminals

Actually you retard, grenade launchers ARE legal.

Guns that can't be purchased, just got to California. A fricken folding stock can make a gun illegaly. Honestly think the lawmakers of California only have knowledge of guns from John Wick and CNN

too bad getting a class 3 lisence is a pain in the ass
of course being able to have a fully automatic assault rifle or LMG would be fun as fuck,just need lots of $ and time

If he was in a nuthouse, then his backround check should be denied.

automatic weapons banned since 1987

Yeah not sure how my AK's are less scary than my ARs...... ignorance

I wish all gun owners were not criminals but unfortunately criminals can still buy guns

If you go through the relentless red tape and tax stamps, the only thing you can't own is WMDs and SAMs. Everything else has some level of tax stamp and license.

Just because a gun accepts something doesnt mean it will shoot it safely.

Try putting 9mm +p+ into a high point and pull the trigger. It will turn into a grenade in your hand. You can put .357 magnum in a .38 revolver, and the second you pull the trigger you are going to be missing a hand

you don't see why folding stocks make a gun illegal? are you simple? why do you think all modern military rifles have either folding or collapsible stocks?

this pic always makes white manlet and dicklets mad, usualy they respond like this:
>anything above 3 inches will hurt her cervix!
>size don't matter - technique matters! [tips fedora, unsheaths katana, double jumps away]

you've lost sight of whatever it was your argument was supposed to be

don't make fun of people who can double jump

Shit-tier shotty

My basic bitch Ruger AR is chambered in 5.56. It is semi-auto though. Most people won't buy a .223 chambered rifle so they aren't ammo limited.

Bait ... Don't think so. If the infrastructure is broken due to whatever reason, the thin finish of so-called civilisation quickly goes the way of the dodo. Just look at what happened in New Orleans after the hurricane and here the surrounding society was still functional

>people who break laws are doing illegal things
no shit?

You can own SAM's. There was a MANPAD on gunbroker a few months ago

We can buy grenade launchers with a $200 tax stamp bruh.

I make fun of people that only THINK they can double jump

DOUBT

Are you retarded? They have folding stocks so that they can be adjusted so they are comfortable for the shooter. Folding stocks making a gun illegal is stupid bullshit.

I want this
Y-you know.. for hunting deer..

2/3 of the lawmakers in California are socialists or outright communists
>mfw I am not exaggerating

Nah, he's genuinely retarded, what's careless is you defending his retardation.

My entire point was that the OP I was referring to was not actually incorrect when he said most civilian ARs fire lower powered ammo compared to their military cousins.

There are other differences as well, such as high shelf and low shelf receivers. Twist rate/barrel differences, and how .223 and 5.56 have very different tumble characteristics...

I had sks woth grenade launcher sites. Fire blanks and big boom.

Also tried to buy a rocket launcher when i was a kid. Like 15 and my dad wouldnt let me. Then i learned about felonis and ran like hell. Mutherfucker at the pawn shop even had rockets

So a pistol grip and telescoping stock really makes it more killy than a ruger mini-14?

it's so they can be carried around more compactly and let you exit a vehicle with them easier.
abilities a sporting rifle never needs.

That number seems a little low...

all about how much money you've got

the average american that lives in a free state will have access to pretty much any rifle or shotgun over a minimum barrel length and pretty much any handgun, sometimes with some minor licensing (in MN, it's just a $20 annual permit with a standard background check). iirc anything over .50bmg is considered a destructive device

short barreled rifles and shotguns require federal paperwork that takes 6-24 months depending on wait times and a $200 tax stamp

destructive devices include things like pipe bombs, rocket launchers and tank shells. you can own these legally, however I think each dd form carries a $400 tax and individual shells, rockets and grenades are taxed individually

so yes, in the US it is perfectly legal to obtain a fucking rocket launcher as a civilian so long as you wait on that paperwork and pay your taxes

in reality though, most gun owners have like 1-2 (((assault weapons))) and the rest is hunting rifles/shotguns and carry / plinking pistols

Walk into a Cabelas or Bass Pro and pick out any AR on the wall for under $1000. 9 times out of 10 it will only be chambered for .223. I think you greatly underestimate how many shit tier ARs exist on the market.

yep

18 USC 922(g)
If you’re civilly committed past 72 hours on a mental health hold, it’s supposed to be reported to NICS or your state’s DOJ and you fail your background check.

It would be registered as a DD

You forgot the third argument.
Bestiality is illegal :^)

it sure was shit wasn't functional. guidance for missiles and seekers for missiles are regulated by ITAR. you will NEVER get them.

This isnt strictly true.

I was put on a 72 hour hold for depression but that isnt the same thing as an involuntary committal.

Any doctor or law enforcement can place you under a 72 hour hold, involuntary committal comes from a court through due process

Modern M4's use collapsable stocks. Folding stocks are usually used by paratroopers.

That's just one example. .50 cals are banned and this year, maximum mag capacity of 5 will be put into effect. They will also start classifying many pistols as "Assault Rifles" meaning they will no longer be able to be sold in Cali.

So what if you don't need it? What does it matter to have it? Does it suddenly make the gun a deadly automatic murder machine? Get over yourself, fag.

good thing other people are capable of critical thinking otherwise we'd never get anywhere.

The real answer lies in how much you want and how willing you are to get it.

The black market is huge in the USA for firearms, and one of the predominant reason gun control and laws don't do much in the big picture. Even a lot of "reputable" gun shops (we're not talking bass pro or walmart here, but the stand alone gun stores) will sell you the right "gear" for the right price. You just need to show the right amount of money before they'll pull out their stash.

That's not even including all the Jamal's on the corner who will sell you some shit if you have the cash/drugs/whatever. You just also need to be savvy enough not to get raped and murdered when they try to steal your shit before you steal theirs.

The unfortunate truth is that gun control will work to a certain point; but people hell bent on shooting up a school or whatever are probably gonna do it anyway. They'll just go to Jamal or the local gun store and set up a meeting by flashing the cash. It's stupid simple if you're not afraid of dying/getting arrested.

Didn't work in US vs stewart or the Gonzales vs Raich pot defense

Good thing people with your levels of critical thinking haven't managed to remove our rights entirely yet, else we may as well just wipe our ass with the Constitution.

That is true. Guidance systems are pretty much never available, though they arent outright illegal to own. That said even the newest Stingers have manual fire modes like a Javelin does

many, many military rifles around the world use folding stocks

Anything full auto and making it full auto is like 10 years of Federal bubba fucks you in the ass prison. Also no sawing off shotguns allowed. Also can't get hollowpoints in like, most states I think.

A semiautomatic AR-15 is about as powerful as it gets unless you actually think meme loads like .577 Tyrranosaur or .600 Nitro Express are anything more than something you use to kill a Cape Buffalo.

>The unfortunate truth is that gun control will work to a certain point; but people hell bent on shooting up a school or whatever are probably gonna do it anyway. They'll just go to Jamal or the local gun store and set up a meeting by flashing the cash. It's stupid simple if you're not afraid of dying/getting arrested.
if all of the spree shooters have to do this to get their gun, spree shootings will become incredibly rare.

Montana has had built here stays here gun laws on the books for over a decade and the DoJ has never even mentioned challenging the law

Hunting rounds are far more powerful than an AR-15. Elk are harder to kill than people. And hollowpoints have been common everywhere I've ever lived.

depends on where you live.

This is also true. In hunting terms, humans are on the small end of medium sized game

Unless you have a class-3 weapons permit and certain permissions, anything that is fully automatic or explosive is off the table, stuff like Tannerite and blackpowder are okay though.