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"Give teachers guns"

Is this man a fucking idiot?

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Yes.

Just the latest example.

Ohios not that important. Let them give it a shot. Pun intended

yes another murica guns thread

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side note. I lost the fucking game.

How is that a bad idea? Teachers are Citizens and they want to have a fighting chance if something bad happens. It is their legal right to have guns if they want them.

End of argument. Trump keeps WINNING!

t. Controlling leftard who knows Trump's solution will work (as they all do) and him and his buddies will lose the best argument they have for a gun grab

Liberals don't want shootings to stop. Every time one happens there are dozens of "thank goe for that kid!" threads, you people love it. You don't care abouy gun violence one bit and you know it.

>CataLOG

so if we restrict guns for mentally unstable people and those on terrorist watchlists, the US will immediately become a fascist dictatorship? im not following the ~ logic ~ here.

russian troll detected.

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We already do those things.

We already have millions voting for retarded ideas at the federal level. I don't want to arm those same millions with fully automatic ak47's.

well this is silly cause liberals are the ones bringing up the gun debate. if anything conservatives dont give a shit about the death of the children of this country, they only care about whether or not they will keep their stupid guns.

look. im liberal but i don't want to take away your damn guns if you are a law abidiing citizen. how is that an issue to you?

I look at your post and see the ravings of a moron. Your parents should be punished for their abomination and you should be led out to a grassy field and put out of your misery lest you pass along your crooked genes to another generation.

You realize like half of the US is on terrorist watchlists in some capacity?
You get put on one for literally just being a conservative, retard.

That would be a de facto ban.

So they should wait in their (if they make it) and wait for the shooter(s) to find them and their students and be shot with no line of defense?

yeah i think you are a dumbass who can't come up with a legit argument. maybe one day you will be stuck in a situation like this and hiding under a desk in the open will not save you. hopefully you can text your loved ones goodbye before you get offed

>don't care
>pitch literally dozens of solutions, Trump's being a good example
What even?

No proposed solution is accepted because you people don't want a solution. You want a gun ban and give zero fucks that the shootings won't stop afterward.

this picture...
>alt rite loves hutler
>alt rite condemns hitler
>alt right says hilary killed gadaffi and ruined usa
>alt right goes " gaddaffi was a bad man"

provide me with some sauce on this.

It’s this simple:

Ban guns = reduce gun violence

If you make it more complicated than that, you won’t find a way to resolve the issue & you’ll just have to accept the fact that youll get to keep your guns but people will die. You can’t have guns and peace at the same time. Again, if you want to make it more complicated than that, go ahead but you’re fooling yourself.

>"Oh shit this guy called us out!"
>"Well I can't say shit, he's right."
>*Bunch of 14-year-old-tier insults*

Yep, you're definitely a liberal.

yes x 10

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Sure..give libtard teachers guns...what could possibly go wrong

no u idiot they are trying to help u

this kind of shit only happens in republican areas

we are trying to help u u fucking idiot


we elected obama and gave 92% poor white ppl healthcare, thats NEVER been done before at that level of help for whites


we are just trying to help please listen

op try this

csoonline.com/article/2228920/microsoft-subnet/ridiculous-dhs-list--you-might-be-a-domestic-terrorist-if---.html

This one happened to be bookmarked, the source is hardly nonpartisan but every claim stands up to scrutiny. Google the claims made, it's crazy how wide a net is cast.

No wonder the FBI accomplishes basically nothing.

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U FOCKERS AINT GON TAKE MUH GUNS. GODAMN ILLUMNATY BULLSHIT GONNA TAKE MY COUNTRY AMERICA THE GREAT. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS TRUMP!

i live in nyc, a place with the strictest gun laws in the country, and where mass shootings never occur so...i doubt very much that i will ever be in such a situation.

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Reduced gun violence, increased violence of every other type.

Ultimately there are MORE assaults and homicides after a ban. I'm sure the thousands more murder victims after bans all see the hammer coming for their face or feel themselves slipping into unconsciousness while being strangled and think "at least it isn't a gun"

THANK YOU
but i think its a lost cause.

No Hillary got government officials killed. Gaddafi was always a bad guy. I don't remember seeing anything on Sup Forums saying otherwise unless it was some edgy troll.

so those people who cant kill 20 people with a gun go ahead and try it with a knife and kill what? max, 3 people? do you not think that's a step forward?

preach.

Assuming that you're not a troll...

How does this solution get implemented? Are the teachers required to supply their own firearms? Are they provided by the state? Will a firearms license be required in addition to the teaching license?

As it is, most major areas struggle to get qualified teachers because of the licensing process. If you raise the bar, you're going to lower the supply of qualified teachers, which means they can be more demanding of higher wages. Who is going to supply the extra money? Taxpayers? The same taxpayers who constantly fight property tax increases for education?

Yes, the obvious bait was totally spot on.
Nothing helps people more than disarming law-abiding citizens while criminals are gunning them down.

"Oh shit somebody got shot by somebody who doesn't give a fuck about the law! Everybody quick! Burn the constitution and put your guns in this bag!"

Retard.

oh stfu

ur own fuhrer was even against the iraq war over the same overtobe "hurr durr wut r we doin in dem cuntrys"

Let teachers go through the same firearm training course that police go and get paid for it, with about $1000 extra per year if they carry every day

LOL @ Trump thinking that teachers have money for guns when they're begging for money for supplies for their kids

So this... is the power... of leftists on Sup Forums... Woah.....

>Is this man a fucking idiot?
Yes. And he's so stupid he's dangerous.

Yes, but he's not wrong on this. I'd rather have two dozen people protecting me, than one rent a cop.

as someone who owns many guns and doesn't lean either way (left or right), i must say that I don't mind increased gun control. I know how to use my guns properly and I know I am a law abiding citizen. i am okay with them having to run background checks on me if it means that less kids are going to be blown apart by an AR.

side-note: i own an AR, have used it a few times for hunting. the gun is the dumbest thing ive ever seen for a civilian to own. the hunting is pretty fucking shit and it just makes you feel like fucking Rambo out there. give me a Browining BAR or remington 750 anyday over those shits.

>Hillary got government officials killed.
hahahahaha faggot actually believes this

hahahahaha


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hahahahaha

wait who's trying to disarm law-abiding citizens?

No teacher is going to want to use their gun. And as soon as one does use their gun in "self defense" everyone's going to be like "they were a child why would you shoot them" and then guns get fucking banned

That's all well and good, until they change the criteria. I'd rather not give the government more power.

I'm a history teacher and there is no way I would go through that hassle for a measly $1,000 a year.

>Is this man a fucking idiot?
How has this ever been in question? Yes.

cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/index.html

Funny you said 20. And hey, it's even a source you trust for some reason.
Fun fact: the only reason most mass shootings are not stopped by citizens in America before the victim count is high is because we have gun-free zones. They always occur in them and good people never bring their piece into those places so it's open season for a shooter.

Israel displays the difference well. Most shootings are stopped immediately, often before a single killing, by citizens.
Not teachers necessarily. Ex-military and police in plainclothes who don't disclose their job. Ever hear of a security guard? Basically that, but with training in close-quarters firearm tactics.

And a teacher would simply be allowed to concealed carry. There is already a permit required and a gun safety test. No additional pay needed as it's literally just "you are now allowed to protect yourself if a shooting occurs."

OK how about $1000 per kill?

The reason schools are attacked is because they're easy targets because they are "Gun free zones".

If there is a chance bullets are coming back at you, those clowns are going to go somewhere else to make their mark.

It would work very well, actually.

Make it $2000 then. 40 hours during which you are paid and then you get to have a shot at defending yourself and your students against any crazed psychos that come up.

>those clowns are going to go somewhere else to make their mark.
no they wouldn't shithead

how about $2000 to watch you try to get your mom to make you some chicken tendies

really makes you think

Every gun law is a step toward a ban. Simple as that.
The 2nd amendment has been gutted to hell, there is already far too much restriction and gun laws are never repealed. Only added.

Look at England. Look at Sweden, Germany, etc. Plenty of mass killings in those places, a lot even with guns, and the people are defenseless already.

It helps nothing. Remember the Hebdo slaughter? France essentially bans all guns, didn't stop the religion of peacers from obtaining multiple fully automatics.

I'm a college teacher. That is a terrible fucking idea.

Sure they would, they would find another easy target. If they weren't guaranteed a high body count because there might be resistance, they're going to be less likely to do it.

>Not teachers necessarily. Ex-military and police in plainclothes who don't disclose their job. Ever hear of a security guard? Basically that, but with training in close-quarters firearm tactics.

Hiring multiple armed security guards with high levels of training? With what fucking money?

My class uses textbooks that were published in 2003. My class last year had a fucking VCR in it.

Pay me and I'll do it but she lives several hours away

If you bothered to listen to the talk, the suggestion was that it would roll back "gun free school zones" (which is fucking stupid to begin with and why there are school shootings anyway) and allow those teachers who were properly trained (such as former military or former police) to conceal carry their own weapons if they wished.

People act like they're requiring teachers to carry a fucking gun. The fact is that if you had a school DISTRICT, you rolled back the "gun free" bull shit, make a secured perimeter to all the schools, and have 1 or 2 designated armed, trained police whose job it was to randomly wander around all the schools at unpredictable intervals, all this shit would completely stop and you could implement all of it for the cost of a couple teachers.

Bro they were killed at a facility for disabled people...im not trying to make excuses but cant you see how if the fucker had a gun, the death toll would've been much higher?

Since it's a new thread let's repost the thought experiment:

You're in class when a violent sperg barges in and intends to shoot the place up. Would you rather your teacher be:

a) NRA trained and carrying concealed?
or
b) A hapless pussy hat wearing #Resistard?

Which one will it be, user? What's your crunchy pacifist gender studies teacher gonna do for you?

Then don't. Enough teachers would be content to simply concealed carry at work just as they do elsewhere

t. Science teacher, cc my baretta everywhere I go and feel anxioue at work after shootings hit the newd because I feel like a sitting duck

Hell, I'D PAY 1k a year to have my piece at work in case of a shooting.

LOL @ the fiscal conservatives not knowing how they're gonna fund their dumbfuck idea.

Isolated incidents. How often do they have school shootings? USA has more mass shootings than any other country and your response is more guns and more gun rights. Yet we already have the most guns per capita.

What is the subject? There are plenty of subjects that haven't changed much since 2003.

Find teachers that are willing to be gun carriers or have access to a locked cabinet. Pay them extra for these duties and send them to training.

You can't back that up with any statistics you fucking gun nut.

you must be far beyond, to consider that
this guy is beyond genius

Crazy dudes have killed and injured plenty of people with swords and machetes pretty rapidly in crowds.

Haha pussy.

If they bother, there is headshot.

Google "Richard Spencer"
send him an e-mail
he'll hook you up

Oh yeah, a bunch of leftards will pull that shit when the first shooter is dropped by a guard or armed teacher.

Nobody gives a fuck, they scream for a gun ban every time the wind shifts. Anybody who hears 'they were a child huuurrr' after a teenager with an AR kicks the classroom door open and gets shot and goes "BURN THE CONSTITUTION NOW" is a retard and an outlier.

World History.

I think the fact that we have the 2nd amendment, which other countries do not, means that for law abiding citizens, guns will be safe.
im a liberal and there's no way in hell im supported a full on ban, but there just has to be some restriction on who can legally purchase a gun. and all the liberals i know agree with me, that guns are a fundamental part of this country and that if you are a decent member of society you should have the ability to own one.

>Yet we already have the most guns per capita.
This has to change. Drastically.

You work with this shitty libtard socialist history teacher. You don't like him, he doesn't like you and you think he's gone a bit off the deep. Would you prefer that he also be a
a) NRA trained and carrying concealed?
or
b) A hapless pussy hat wearing #Resistard?

>you should have the ability to own one.
Gun ownership is like any other right or responsibility

nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

Canada has stricter guns laws but that does not mean a responsible individual cannot own a gun. The violent gun related crime stats are lower in comparison, and crime rates are lower over all. You can apply for a gun license, you have to take a course and initially be a part of a gun club, you can apply for a hunting permit as well.

>socialist
I love how your right wing mouthbreathers throw this word around like you think you know wtf it means
lol

REMINDER THAT DAVID HOGG IS A PROVEN CRISIS ACTOR AND THIS IS SIMPLY A FALSE FLAG TO FURTHER RAPE OUR RIGHTS.

Here's another thought experiment:

You're in class when your underpaid, bitter and frankly unstable teacher has gotten enough of your endless questions and constant interruptions. Would you rather your teacher be:

a) NRA trained and carrying concealed?
or
b) A helpless pussy hat wearing #Resistard?

>Canada
But can you have a gun in your house for protection?
A lot of your shit is out in the middle of nowhere

this is actually really interesting. anyone have any ideas as to why this wouldn't work in the US?

>NRA trained
fuck the NRA
it needs to go tits up

Gun nuts.

He's isn't a proven Crisis actor. The BS that was posted was just that BS. He use to live in California several years ago. Was there in 2017 visiting friends. Is clearly in the yearbook at the school in Florida.

>The fact is that if you had a school DISTRICT, you rolled back the "gun free" bull shit, make a secured perimeter to all the schools, and have 1 or 2 designated armed, trained police whose job it was to randomly wander around all the schools at unpredictable intervals, all this shit would completely stop and you could implement all of it for the cost of a couple teachers.

Every school I've ever worked at has armed uniform police. You know who also had armed uniform police? Pulse nightclub.

The real world isn't like TV. This isn't 24. One good guy with a pistol doesn't always win against the bad guy who outarms him.

LAW ABIDING CITIZEN AND PROUD GUN OWNER HERE. FUCK THE NRA THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT FILLING THEIR POCKETS.
we should be allowed to own guns but fuck that organization.

It would work in the US. But there would have to be a Supreme Court Ruling to back it up. But citizens would not be deprived of the right to bear arms.

Teachers attacking students = EXTREMELY fucking rare and isolated

Go ahead and use obscure possibilities to deter you from an obvious mitigation of the problem

it's all the same shit in the end retard.

meant to say *they don't give a shit about anything except filling their pockets"