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Would the hillbillies stand a chance if they were Vietnamese farmers?

Got to figure roughly 1/3 to 1/2 the armed forces would defect.

and more would follow when ordered to fire on americans.

Then they'd be hung where they stand as traitors. And your estimation is a complete crock of shit in the first place.

Canada and Mexico as they would absorb a large chunk of the US

We beat vietnam militarily, but not politically.
We were forced to quit the war because of hippies and chicken shit politicians back home.
If we had been allowed a little more time, we would have finished them off completely.
It's sort of how in Iraq, we stayed and fought it out.
Yet when we left, new enemies popped up in their place and tried to take over.
Namely, ISIS.

The DOD did a study involving a similar scenario and they had comparable numbers. It's all hypothetical bullshit, but so is this thread.

An armed civilian populace would be able to hold out. You can't hold a city with air strikes, as proven by the struggle against insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan. You need people and there will always be more civilians than military.

Unless they just kill everyone with indiscriminate bombing, but at that point what have they really won? A bombed out worthless piece of land.

Based on other civil wars over the years this is actually a very safe estimate of the defection rate. After all who would form the army of the the other side?

America is a much larger place than Vietnam. There's basically no possible way for the US military to actually fight against the population.

Op here

What im thinking about is that the military actually has training, both mentally and physically, specifically for war. How could civilians, even if theyre good shots and can handle a gun, even stand a chance?

Because it's not the fucking 1600s where everyone just lines up and takes turns firing.

>implying the entire army would fight against it self

Well they lost against rice niggers with out dated weponary, also include the Freindly fire and the hill Billy's will win.

The rest of this country? No more hillbillies with guns...maybe a small reduction in the US military. Win/win for everybody else.

Basically this. In any large-scale conflict where one side is outnumbered or one side massively outgears the other, that one side of that conflict will turn to guerilla fighting. It always happens, ALWAYS, unless said worse-off side is as dumb as niggers (and even hillbillies aren't as dumb as niggers). If you can't fight something head-on, you stab it in the neck while it's sleeping

Technology and warfare have changed a lot since then. Back then they didnt have drones that could just bomb the shit out of the enemy position. Vietnam isnt a reliable or viable example

Milfag here, USMC

Over 90% of the military are non combat faggots that don't do anything anyways, and therefore irrelevant. Of the 1% of the military that is infantry or SOF, literally maybe 10% would ever attack the population. Combat arms jobs overwhelmingly recruit from right wing, rural populations. Not to mention in these days the "loyalty to the union" mindset is gone, generals see the military as a career, everyone else is either in for the gibs-level healthcare/GI Bill, or the innate desire to commit government sanctioned murder. If there was another civil war, the military as we know it would cease to exist, much less function.

explain to me how you plan on getting supplies, ammunition, and food between militias without a secure communication that the government can't monitor? how are you supposed to transport anything without a highway system? the government won't have to fire very many shots. they'll just watch the highways and starve you into submission. you all watch too many movies and think war is still about attrition. the last war of attrition was ww2. its all maneuver warfare now: eliminate the enemy's ability or will to fight through strategic positioning. you rifles are the least of their worries. once they have full control of communication and transportation, that's all they need. and thanks to post-9/11 paranoia, conservative america handed exactly that to them.
>go ahead and tap my phone and restrict my travel, anything but the gun.

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

You could call it the American Government raising the IQ of the country.

Just be glad when the jackboots come snapping down on your sister's mouth with your rotten chodes, they're pouring bleach in the genetic pool.

Well considering technology is improving more and more every year, I wouldn't doubt it if we reached the point where guerilla tactics simply become unfeasible due to constant surveillance and gps tracking.

Explain how you expect the military to when it takes them exponentially more resources to do anything. Do you think helicopters have infinite fuel?

Think about how many resources would go into flushing 8 guerilla fighters out of the woods. Meanwhile they can make some IEDs out of some household materials.

stay mad kids

The question you should ask: who would win?

Half of the US Military, most of the police, and 10 Million legal gun owners

Or

Half the US Military

If you believe otherwise you're fucking high.

>milfag here, USMC
>claims 1% of military is infantry or SOF
>support MOS irrelevant
playing modern warfare for 4 years straight doesn't make you a marine you retarded false-valor faggot. you only daydream that you ever served.

That's always possible as well. I wasn't really commenting on how things *would* go, just that it would certainly not be a head-on collision between trained marksmen in ceramic-reinforced kevlar and methheads with .22s

The term you're looking for is "restrict enemy freedom of movement". It does work, however, even the full might of the entire military focused on a country the size of Texas can't stop the Taliban from moving freely. If you think any military on this entire earth could somehow control all of America, you're wrong, based on size alone.

They would not want to get into that meat grinder.

The state of Texas alone could probably take on Mexico AND Canada and win. Neither have much of a military to speak of...

Holy shit, a Marine that can think on his own? Will wonders never cease? Agree with you, Devil Dog. Now go eat some crayons, you did good.

I dunno, that's a lot of hillbillies.

If the government was trying to eliminate us they'd probably have a secret insanely powerful strike force

... are you being serious? how will the military make war?
>almost fell 4 da bayt

kek, sounds just like another Dolchstoßlegende.
>It's sort of how in Iraq, we stayed and fought it out.
Uh iirc iraq is not exactly better off since you were there

Do you think real life is a video game and you just get infinite resources?

USMC- 182,000
Infantry battalion size- 750 infantrymen
Number of infantry battalions-8
Infantrymen- 6,000

Even counting Raider battalions and Recon battalions, the number of infantrymen in the most "infantry centric" service is miniscule.

Support services are completely irrelevant when you take away the force they support.
Tldr shut up POG boot bitch

No, not "how will they make war", "how will they make war for the decades it takes to wipe out the people who are supposed to be feeding them resources"?

Because the act of instigating war on the gun-lovers would immediately bolster said faction's ranks by a shitton

>claims 1% of military is infantry or SOF
"Of the 1% of the military that is infantry or SOF"

reading is hard

I don't know if my cousin, who's in the Army, would shoot me or anyone that kind of looked/reminded him of family. Guess that's why Boston Dynamics is developing automated killing platforms. Good question, Op.

the government has full control over communication in the US, not so much in other countries. the taliban has also been training, fighting, and developing tactics and strategies in their land for centuries. almost no military in history could beat native afghans in their mountains. americans only have individual experience at shooting ranges and video games. no militias or secure communications. just hollywood inspired glory-hounds with tacticool gear.

The military would essentially have to stage a coup. I don't think the 3% MOLON LABE people would be the only ones fighting. There are very large swaths of the population who take their freedom seriously.

you are fuckiong retarded. looking up stats on google doesn't make you a marine you faggot.
>daydream harder
>all you will ever be is a fucking wannabe

Trick question. The military is almost entirely comprised of REE NO STEPPY MOLON LABE hillbillies. As are most state and county police forces.

America isn't some special snowflake place, if there's a rebellion the military will if forced or ordered to fire upon said rebels.... Like every other country does.
Soldiers after all are trained to remove emotion from their actions.

Even allowing for all the infantry battalions to be full T/O at 1000, which is in itself is an exaggeration considering battalions are never ever up to strength, and part of that T/O is POGs attached like S1 Admin faggots and Motor T, that equals exactly 24,000 infantrymen.

0.1% infantry, in the USMC.

Less than 1% of the military population have sustained 90+% of all combat in the past 50 years. What happens what that whole segment of the service leaves? You lose.

>Would the hillbillies stand a chance if they were Vietnamese farmers?

Vietnamese farmers aren't too fat to walk.

Also will the Russians supply them with weapons?

Another thing that would bring them in line with Trump: Accepting Russian support.

You reek of foreigner. What shithole country do you call home?

Now who has been watching too many fucking movies?

>STOP KNOWING THINGS UR RETARDED IM RIGHT REEEEEEE

Okay schlomo

EMP attack from, "North Korea". Critical infrastructure fails, no communication or news, COG activated, elites run to their fully stocked bunkers while the average-Joe starves and gets ass-raped road warrior style. 90% of population dead within a year. Elites inherit the earth. GAME OVER.

>how will they make war for the decades...
lol jesus dude, it won't take "decades." it will take a few weeks at most. most of the major corporations that produce the essentials of society (food, energy, water, fuel, etc) are pretty much reliant on the government and will most likely side with or be seized by the government right off the bat. believe it or not, during wartime, the US takes on a socialist economy as the government takes over the means of production. like i said earlier, they will cut off communication and transportation, isolating groups and starving them out.

The question isn't who would win but if civil war would ever happen?
We are way beyond the point where civil war should happen but people are to lazy and entertained with internet and video games to do so.
Polluted water, rigged elections, false flag attacks, rampant corruption; it's all okay as long as I get my fast food and can masturbate to anime.

Must be hard to be smelling anything when your fatmobile can't squeeze out of your XXL Bedroom & Toilet Combo room.

>Also will the Russians supply them with weapons?
There's more guns than people in America.

I'm voting for the hillbillies, plus a couple of raccoons.

this picture is retarded. We've seen a few examples of guerrilla warfare thwarting US military. Heard of Vietnam? Fuck off dummy. This is out of your depth.

america. the biggest shithole of them all.

>Vietnam

>anyone with a gun is an armed hillbilly
Also, there is a HUGE overlap between the US military and the armed civilian population.

>nigger detected

>more would follow when ordered to fire on americans

Yeah, Americans would never fire at Americans.

>t. self hating 14 year old who probably thinks canada is great

>whiteboicuck detected

>There's more guns than people in America.

I'm talking about military grade weapons, you mouthbreather.

Those street cameras and this phone are the first thing to go when the shit hits the fan, user.

Huh, really made me think. The military base would never chose a side. Of course all of the officers stayed loyal to the union ;^)

>t. micro-penis cuckold who probably thinks red dawn is a true story

You are making the assumption that the military (and law enforcement) would support the government taking away citezens right to possess firearms. Sure many would blindly follow orders and just do what they are told to do but there is a very large portion in all ranks that would take up arms on the other side of the issue. It isnt just armed citezens vs the military as it sits now. It's armed citizens + military and le that supports their cause (including any equipment they can commandeer) vs unarmed citizens and the remaining military force.

Yeah. half the US defected. Great example tardo

>choosing an instance in history where a large portion of the military and several of the best generals int he military defected to enact a literal civil war that took 4 years to end

It's not COD you dumb phoneposter.

You clearly have no idea how BIG the United States is and can't understand that people do this thing called "hiding". And sweeping to GIT DEM EMEMMIES would be a long, slow process, because you can't simply shoot every person you see. Stuff like the middle-east would have been over a long time ago if we could simply shoot everyone with the wrong skin color...

or it wouldn't, because that would turn entire countries against us and we'd be fucked. War is more complicated than the whatever RTS crap you've played

Fair point about their time spent fighting this is true, however I would counter the average hillbilly also has an advantage resisting the government knowing their turf the same way ol terry does.

Also, your sense of government communication control is pretty inflated. We can't even manage all the communications the taliban use, which is primarily unsecured radios, word of mouth, and letters. Even with all of our intelligence collection assets, we miss more than we catch. People have this Hollywood idea of the military having crazy tech, with giant supercomputers capable of catching all possible communiques and immediately processing them into usable intel.

In reality, it's some 19 year old nerd on a 10 year old laptop using windows Xp trying to create intelligence out of a four hour conversation with a random sandnigger that was stopped for questioning by another pimple faced 19 year old on his 700th patrol that deployment.

You mean the news for the past god knows how many years?

Your deluded to think people won't shoot other people because they are from the same country.. shit Americans already do that every single day.

>War is more complicated than the whatever RTS crap you've played
>"""hiding"""
lol yea ok bud, lemme know when you read a book

>Opinions?

Assuming the military would 100% follow unconstitutional orders? Being this dumb.

>Then they'd be hung where they stand as traitors

traitors would be the ones giving unconstitutional orders. Fuck off liberal cuck.

I still don't know why these europoors are shitting on American's School Shooting problem.

Means less of your Burger Bois on this board.

Starving who out? I for one wouldn't openly rebel, but I wouldn't give up my guns. It's kind of hard to determine who your enemies are when you aren't civil war battling by lining up. The government would only lose support, the people getting starved would only have to bury their guns then claim they were being starved unjustly. How would you check the country for 400 odd million guns?

ITT: people who don't own guns and don't have family in the military

tbh i think the hillbillies and truckers would unite under a ballsy leader and go full genghis khan on america if civil war 2 broke out

government control over communication is definitely not inflated. everything from cell towers, to physical data storage, have backdoors that government can access. this is not not hollywood inflation, i work IT. most of it is for legal and liability reasons, but the government still has access and holds the killswitch. not to mention, the taliban also had a ton of help from none other than the US government in combating the soviets. also, about the "19 yo on a laptop", they are trained to do very specific, relatively small tasks. a bunch of people doing small things doesn't require a ton of expertise or understanding from each of them. the product of their efforts go up to someone who does understand what's going on and can make sense of everything

if the feds let that cruz kid slip through the cracks then they dont stand a fucking chance in a civil war

youtu.be/ureNHsu0yxY

Redneck retards would never lead a civil war because they love to eat up propaganda.

Peaceful protesters get shot and killed? Those dam hippie commies deserved it.

Peaceful protesters get arrested unjustly? Hahaha stoopid libtards!

Peaceful protesters get run over by some maniac. YeHaw! America!

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass."

- Isoroku Yamamoto

that would be the thing; you'd have to keep you guns hidden like crack pipes. any sight of them and you're busted. anyone tips off the cops/military that you have one, you're busted. and don't pretend like at least half of the population aren't sheeple who'll just go along with the safest bet, which is the uniformed military and police with tanks and jets. they will pick the side that is least likely to end up with them dead or in prison. simple fact of any population.

You do realize most of the US Army is made of hillbillies with guns?

I'm saying you could control every cell phone, computer, land line doesn't not matter, it's still impossible to completely stop an insurgency from forming and communicating. Even if it came down to passing fucking notes. I understand on the technology side of things you'd be fucked but I'm speaking from a purely military standpoint, it's impossible in a country of the US's size.

lol and you think hillbillies won't go against hillbillies? google "brother against brother". shooting each other is so ingrained in american culture, that is the phrase historians use to describe the american civil war. and its not using "brother" like best friend or countryman, its referring to literal blood-related brothers picking up arms against each other over differing views.

>it's impossible in a country of the US's size.

They already control the US.

>tfw you're retarded and autistic at the same time

lol k

we're not talking about niggers dummy. And using a comparison from the civil war, isn't valid at all. You're a moron. Just listen for a while. You might learn something.

How about you rednecks stop living in your fantasy world and sucking your corporate masters cocks and actually do something other than shoot up innocent civilians and school children?

Pic related the guy you elected staring at the sun.

lol k, didn't know white folk call themselves niggers these days. how is it not valid? read a book or something man, you might learn something.

Afghanistan has withstood decades of being invaded by Russian and now the US. So if the Afghanistan people can hold out against two of the worlds militaries I'd say the hillbillies stand a very good chance, especially since US military is sworn to uphold the US Constitution and not politicians so if they were ever given orders to taken down let's say a US militia then more than likely they would turn on the politicians whom gave the orders.

you should really cut down on the soy.

says the guy who thinks niggerjuice enemas will help his constipation

Lol he’s got a point

this is the gayest comment I've ever read. Quit projecting fag.