WAS HE ELITE OR SHIT?

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He carried France to a WC and an Euro, something Messi can´t archive.

Messi is argentine

Top 5 all-time

Yeah, like Maradona, who won the WC like Zidane.

He was elite shit

Not even the best French number 10

Even worse, Argentina play Copa america which isn't as competitive.

Platini? You have to be a barcafag to be that delusional

>copa america isn't as competive

then how does Peru eliminate Brazil meanwhile Portugal can win the Euro by winning 0 games in the group stage? Euro is fucking shit.

>Listing facts that counter your argument

Overrated. Xavi is the way better player . I'm no barca fan.

>Peru being one of the best teams somehow makes the copa america more competitive

nice """""argument""""" you got there

If people slate Hamez and Isco for their inconsistency I'd hate to see what Sup Forums would think of him today

He was known as a choker before Neverkusen

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are you retarded?

you can't get shitload of titles and a ballon d'or by accident user

>two goals in a WC final
>not elite

Yeah, totally choked that WC and that Euro

>He carried France to a WC
Carried isn't exactly the word. But he did scored his only two goals in the final against our chokers.

>He carried France to a WC
He didn't, he only really showed up in the final.

He was much better overall in the 2006 WC, even though he didn't do shit in the group stage and chimped out in the final.

>Xavi is the way better player
only one final, not a big baller desu

>anyone is either elite or shit

kys

SYSTEM BABBY

>Which is not as competitive

Yeah because Portugal won every match until the final, right? What a great competition!

>Getting raped 7-0 as locals in a Copa América
>i-it's not competetive g-guys!

Fuck off.

Best bald player of all time desu

he is the strongest of them all

i applied for janitor so i can ban threads like this

I rate his skull shape, I wish I look as good shaved

Superstar

Yeah, and we'd get raped 17-0 if we played a decent team like Germany.

Zidane is a superstar, as a player and now as the headcoach, and he is a model like looking specimen.

Some people simply have it all.

But did choke 2 CL finals. He was like a turn of the century Robben.

WC 1998 was rigged for France, Brazil accepted to lose with the condition of winning in 2002.

Why would you accept to lose one to win another when you can win both?

Politics, money

>implying Xavi wasnt the system and Messi wasnt the babby

>messi still winning titles while xavi's blowing prince aziz

oh yeah shit, I forgot.

what did messi win this year again?

>xavi left in 2017

>carry
>with barthez, sagnol, desailly, thuram, makelele, vieira, deschamps, djorkaeff, henry and trezeguet playing together
>with a good manager

he was great but he was inconsistent as fuck. He would score a GOAT goal like the one against Neverkussen and then disappear for 3 months. You have to be older than 12 to remember this

>possibly top 5 of all time.

Very Elite. Like, like a coach on the field.

That just says a lot about your football knowledge, Paco.

t. Gunther Schweitzer

I miss the 2014 WC, that song was GOAT

Nice UCLs Messi won following Xavi's departure

Elite head-butt?

this

I am much older than 12. If Zidane was ever known for something, it was appearing on the big matches

it's a shame that today's kids only know him as the guy who headbutt some other guy

Why did he refuse to shave his head for so long?

SHLITE

>tfw just got into soccer in 05
>only memory of him a a player is the headbutt
>be 28

an elite embarrassment

>he was great but he was inconsistent as fuck. He would score a GOAT goal like the one against Neverkussen and then disappear for 3 months. You have to be older than 12 to remember this

It's hard to be consistent when you play in a midfield as unbalanced as Real's was during that time. He either had a midfield partner like Gravesen or Guti, or was put out on the left. If he had a stable, cohesive 3 man midfield to play in like modern Barca and Real have he would have shone a lot more often.

WHEN I GET OLDA
I WILL BE STRONGA

That was 2010

>EXALIFTIN

I know, but Shakira's song sucked. OOOEEEAH was a better meme.

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If Portugal won euro 2016 is to avoit tsuuu commit sudoku

>I don't rate Zeit dass sich was dreht

I actually kind of like Shakira's song. No waving flag but still fun

>flag
POO

Being a top 20 player ever in a sport played by several hundred of millions of people makes you elite, yes.

this

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HEEEEM