Why don't millennial men want to get married?

Why don't millennial men want to get married?

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Too young.

Risks and effort required outweigh the benefits

Would you marry these thots?

>Risks and effort required outweigh the benefits

Only in 'murrica.

Why would you? There's a lot of cons with few pros.

Here in Australia as well

You can’t make a ho a housewife.

Watch Chris Rock's new show tamborine.

Divorce court is worse than criminal court

25 to life is less brutal than the rest of your life paying alimony after losing everything you own.

Have a wedding that costs you a fortune, to have children that cost you a fortune, to have a divorce that costs you a fortune, for a relationship that has as much chance of survival as one that isn't validated by law

Some Hoe's just going to take your shit.

Well then i'm sorry for you too.

Same in Canada

why is this even a question

UK Fag reporting in. Not worth it.

I want to marry and have a traditional family but i have to find the right girl first

Would you sign a contract that gives a stranger 85% of your money, your possessions, and requires you to pay monthly payments to a stranger?

You bet your fucking ass you would never do so.

Thats what marriage is, its a piece of paper that legally gives up a mans possessions and money, and requires them to maintain a monthly payment to a stranger.

Why do you need to spend 10k on a ring to prove that you love someone? Why do you need to give up your life to prove that you love someone?

Marriage has no place in the 21st century

Because I'm too busy playing videogames.

This is my dream, but i dont think itll happen

- Cucks repressed by a liberal society since birth.
- Laws don't protect a man if they get a divorce.
- Both men and women don't know how to reason through arguments, or compromise, and so turning to divorce is easier.
- Getting a divorce is no longer taboo.
- Reasons for getting a divorce, like cheating, are no longer taboo, and so a man doesn't want to be put in a situation where his spouse would cheat and force him to divorce and lose everything, or stay and be literally cuck'd.
- Now that women are taking on careers, they no longer require staying in a marriage (or even getting one), and so stay single until they grow too old, and regret it, but by then it's too late
- Women are trusted when they lie to police, like claim rape, and compiled with a society of low-morality, results in no benefit to get married.
- Some women will literally stay with a man unmarried for 10+ years. So if you're getting all the benefits of marriage, with none of the repercussions, why bother?

Honestly, the list can go on.

In my opinion: All of this could be avoided if y'all would grow a spine, have some self respect, and know when a date/girlfriend is shit and drop her asap. Keep searching for a girl, become a person worth respecting, and eventually you'll find someone who'll make you happy. Assuming they have morals, then you'll both be happy.

Here's some final advice from my father: "If you have to question if it's right to get married, it's not, and she's not the one."

Thats what you get from living in Cuckistan

Next you'll be telling us you want to have sex in the missionary position

I don't feel marriage is worth the risk of someone losing half my shit and having to pay alimony for the rest of my life. I have no problem with commitment, I've been with my gf for over 5 years now and don't see us splitting up, but I'm not willing to lose my house, car, and retirement over it.

And Spain

Alternatively, learn how to be happy by yourself. It's a lot easier.

>Hey girlfriend, if this goes bad you're going to fuck my life up, but let's get the law involved in our relationship.

Surprisingly most guys my age arent cucked and want a wife and family. its the feminists and schools that encourage the cucking

This.

id rather a life of missionary with the right girl than anal with a bitch who divorces me

>There are no pros to being married.

Prove me wrong

Femanon here. I'll settle down after I've had sex with SIXTY DIFFERENT MEN.

Better tax rate.

For some people that's fine, but I only have one life, and having an experience with a loved one for an extended period of time (without marriage) is too good an option to pass up.

>inb4 real love is impossible fags

There's a lot of girls out there who like a lot of different types of guys. It just takes fucking forever to find her, bros.

I have zero interest in having kids, so that level of commitment is simply unnecessary.

K cool. If it goes bad you're completely fucked (provided you're not a woman).

A trusting and fulfilling companionship with another.
I mean, if it's done right.
Also, non-divorced couples raise more successful children...so I guess that's a benefit for someone.

Why do you believe you have to be married to have kids?
You're the kids legal father, why do you think a marriage license enhances this?

Married millennial here. I'm married because I want to raise a family and be a contributing member of my community and my country.

Grow up, face your mortality, and take on responsibility like real men, you faggots.

Hey, you asked.

>you have to raise a family to be a contributing member of your community and country
u wot m8?

My whole life ive seen my beta male cuck of a father take shit and get cheated on by my mom and all he does is cry. Its an embarassment really. never taught me to do any "man" things. not shaving not how to drive not how to get a gf. basically im 19 and no idea how to be a man. idk if i have what it takes to be honest.

>A trusting and fulfilling companionship with another.
Why do you believe you have to be married to have a long last relationship?

Look at gene simmons, hes been with his gf for decades and has 2 kids and seems to be doing fucking well off

Nice job doing exactly what you're told, kid

Usually if both partners are virigins the marriage usally lasts a lifetime.

You:
>Here in Cuckistan the feminists now teach us cuckistics and cuckology in schools so everybody can have equal opportunity to be cucked.

I didn't say that. I said I wanted to do both. Look, you get married because you need ONE PERSON to whom you can tell the unvarnished truth. If you're not married, that person can just dump you as soon as the full extent of your flaws becomes apparent to them and you can never be your true self with them. If you never get married, you can never be truly honest with anyone in your life. Enjoy that.

Try this:
>Get a vasectomy
>Don't tell anyone...anywhere
>Have sex with woman
>If she asks if you two can have kids, mention you had a vasectomy. If it ends, then it ends. If not, then you never lied.
>If she suddenly get's pregnant, it means either your vasectomy is botched, or she cheated on you to get pregnant. If it's the latter, here are your options:
1. Break up with her immediately, and tell her you've had a vasectomy.
2. Don't tell her, get tested to verify that you're sterile, then when she's 8 months pregnant, break up with her and reveal you've had a vasectomy, and that she cheated. Now for CHOOSING to be a terrible person, she has another man's child as an eternal reminder, and you can move on with no responsibilities.

>inb4 I don't know if I'm ready to make that choice

Then you don't really have zero interest in having kids. Man up, or shut up.

Marriage is only good for women.

>Be me
>34 y/o male. 30 y/o partner

>Together 11 years, not married, call her the missus anyway
>Have house, 2 kittens, no kids, no money problems, big holiday once a year
>Watched 4 friends marry, watched 3 have divorces, 4th is on the brink
>MFW we're still going strong
Why fuck up a good thing?

too busy fucking hookers

Nobody told me to do this. I chose to do it because it's better than the alternatives, all things considered.

Too busy doing important shit

> you need ONE PERSON to whom you can tell the unvarnished truth
Says who?
>you can never be truly honest with anyone in your life
Just be honest with yourself.

It's the ultimate form of commitment and acknowledgement of your trust in her. It shows that you're aware of the consequences, but don't believe they'll happen.

I personally agree with you. If you can find the right girl, then marriage is unnecessary. Although, she might break up with you out of peer pressure from her shit family and friends.

they are laughed at. no one takes school seriously or feminism for that matter. the Canadian school system is fucked.

You go, Roastie!

Humans are social creatures. You cannot be as fulfilled living for yourself as you can be living for and with others.

Hollar "we want prenup"

Because we're poor, but with access to porn and vidya.

>Throwing away yourself for a few hours of pleasure.

You don't, and I have friends who are parents but aren't married, but most women would want that level of commitment before having kids. Either way, no motivation for me to deal with that shit.

... What the fuck are you even rambling about here?

Give him some credit. He's suffering so you can do some shit with your life, however that is.
In truth, dude, no matter how shit you treat him...you're probably his only justification for living.

None of that implies getting married or telling people the "unvarnished truth". There are also always exceptions.

I'll leave marriage to the gays.

Basically this.

A little hyperbolic (it's not 85% -- not in every case at least), but seriously... is the tax benefit worth that kind of gamble?

The only benefit to marriage I see is that they can make medical decisions on your behalf. But you can achieve the same end with a durable power of attorney agreement.

They do they just want to marry other men

Get a vasectomy, but don't tell anyone, and if your girlfriend get's pregnant, then she's cheated, and you've caught her.

Clearer?

23M UK. Redpilled last year after a decade long fiasco which was dating.

Growing up I always expected to find the perfect Disney-esque woman. But modern society has destroyed her. She doesn't exist.

All we have are mediocre, spoiled girls who want nothing more than to milk guys for their resources.

Gays and millennial women sleep around just as much.

If you don't promise never to run away from each other, the first time your girlfriend realizes how fucked up you are, really, truly how fucked you are, she will run away screaming. Being married to someone means that no matter how fucked up you are, you can be perfectly honest, and your WIFE will not run away from you. You can't be truly honest with a girlfriend. You can with a wife. If you never get married, you can't be truly honest with anyone and you will never know who you really are.

I'm 28 and I think being married would be fine, assuming I could find the right woman. But it's been 7 years now since my last girlfriend, so, you know, seems less and less likely as time flies. Also doesn't help when you're a never employed guy.

How do you handle "Why haven't we gotten married yet?"
Eventually, she's going to get sick of it and leave you.
Or, dare I say, is she actually a decent person who's with you for love?

You're probably right. I left home and im not ever going back. i got my extended family to support me but i still manage to fuck up. too scared to even get a job so im a neet while waiting for college

We've already gone over that. You can be honest with yourself, and you don't need other people to know who you are.

You can start improving your life by using capital letters at the beginning of every sentence...

And a lot of times those get thrown out because they're deemed unfair, even if they signed them anyways. Still not worth the risk of losing everything.

If divorce put the same level of "commitment" for the women as it does men.

Prenups are thrown out of court by first year law students. They mean nothing now and are not legally binding.She could say she signed it under duress and there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise.

>Eventually, she's going to get sick of it and leave you.
If she leaves me because i won't marry her then she wasn't worth marrying.

Imagine ending a relationship because of something so stupid.

You seemed to have missed my response to that point. Humans require intimate interpersonal contact -- deep and meaningful relationships -- to live fulfilling lives. No relationship is more meaningful than marriage.

MGTOW.

Isn't that what those niggas that can sign legal documents are for? Stationaries?
Also video cameras exist.

Because they'd be getting married to millennial women.

proposing to my girl tomorrow. we're not all mgtow faggots and whiny hipsters

I didn't miss your response at all, you didn't say anything about intimate interpersonal contact, which I reject needing in order to live a fulfilling life.

Good for you, user.

>Growing up I always expected to find the perfect Disney-esque woman. But modern society has destroyed her.

No modern society did not destroy her, she never existed in the first place

This

2/4
I gotta work on my typing I guess. I don't type properly so I usually only hit shift half of the time.

You're just flat wrong about that. Evolutionarily, biologically, and sociologically.

No, I got all that, but what point are you even trying to make? That if I don't get a vasectomy then I must secretly want kids or something? Or that the only way to be sure my woman isn't cheating on me is to have surgery without telling anyone? Because it'd be completely inconspicuous if I told her she couldn't touch my junk while I healed from my non-surgery, right?

>Prenups are thrown out of court by first year law students.

What? Lol

Yes, but no. If you have one lawyer, your own, go and track down your wife-to-be and have her sign the prenup YOUR lawyer drafted, sure.

But that's if you're retarded. You have your wife retain her own lawyer for the purpose, one of her choosing, and then you compromise on the prenup.

Judges don't just throw out those kind of prenups. They don't.

I'm demonstrably right.

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Notary
Even with video with audio of her face as you sit in a chair in front of her not looking at her, not breathing,not making any sound,she could still say she felt pressured to sign it and then the judge throws it out. Thats if you have a MALE judge, if you have a female, you might as well not even show up and just let het make her decision

>But that's if you're retarded. You have your wife retain her own lawyer for the purpose, one of her choosing, and then you compromise on the prenup.
Why would any women do this? She then says she was pressured to get a lawyer and sign the prenup.
There ya go its thrown out

You would do well to check the current state of prenups in the modern world. Divorce court does not favor men in any country

Not the same user but it doesn't really matter, if you choose to be lonely you'll never be happy.

Okay, you've clearly made up your mind. There's nothing I can say. You just try living alone, only for your own sake, and see how empty you become. I hope you don't, though. I don't want you to be a shell of a person, leading a meaningless existence. But you can't help people who don't want to be helped.

Meh

Already have that.

>for a few hours
Nobody needs over an hour with a prostitute. You bang out a quick nut into her, then get her to rub your back and shoulders while you recover, and then flip her over and go again. Rinse and repeat. You're not trying to impress her with your sexual prowess - she's a whore.

Then don't be lonely. You don't have to look at things so negatively.
You keep flip-flopping your point. You can live alone and also live for the sake of others, at the same time.