Itt: We talk about The vietnam war

Itt: We talk about The vietnam war

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wtf you cucks, gtfo of your shitty generals and talk about something else yoy gay faggot lords

Burgers btfo by literal hobbyist soldiers

>hobbyist soldiers trained and funded by a superpower

lol so desperate to rationalize

>k/d!
>mcdonalds in hanoi
>we didnt lose we just withdrew
>enjoy the agent orange haha
>we didnt even really care anyways

You're referring to murrican soldiers, right?

Literally only VNCH memesters care.

Are you trying to say that the Vietnamese weren't funded by Soviets?

All of those are valid points

Oh shit, it's a Vietnam War thread. I started one of these on /k/ a few months back and got a lot of cool pictures out of it, I'll post some.

post some that take place in an urban setting like saigon

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Anyone still interested or dead thread?

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>tfw you'll never have buddies from Vietnam

iktf

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When's the last time you won a war in your own right? Beating Rosa Luxemburg's cronies? Putting down a tribal rebellion in Africa?

yes post more you faggot we just don't want to break the pic chain with out worthless posts

I'm lurking

Sorry was busy

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*it ain't me starts playing*

propaganda leaflet pt 1

pt 2

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>Deer men

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To be honest, the knee-jerk feeling I got reading this was "Fuck those commies telling me what to think!" This propaganda could have the opposite effect, by reminding disheartened men of their faith, families and country, i.e. the things that keep them strong.

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You can have some from the RA

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PTSD

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That's it for now, it was fun to post these. A thousand stories in each picture, I wish I could talk to every single one of them.

Eddie Murphy looking focused

>Someone made khmer rouge ecchi

Now I wish I could know the story behind that skull

Made me pretty sad

one nuke and it would be over if we really wanted to

Bonus image

Where did you take those photos? I may know where that is.
Interesting, don't get a whole lot of Aussies in the Nam. All shitposting aside the Australians were rock fucking solid in the war.
Not going to go too far into this, but the VC and PAVN leadership had literal decades of experience due to fighting the Japanese and then the French. The Furthermore, when your logistics are backed by both the PRC and the USSR it does give you an advantage.

Thanks, user, that dump really pumped me up for the day

What's there to talk about? The war was long over by the time anyone here was born. The north viets got what they wanted, international communism collapsed only a few decades later, and now Vietnam and the USA are quasi military allies against China.

There are lots of salty crypto-authoritarian cucks in these threads who don't like thinking about the war because it marked the point when people stopped absolutely trusting the military elites and government, but they'll get over it.

>Burgers btfo by literal hobbyist soldiers
the tet offensive was the first time the VC openly attacked the Americans and they were utterly destroyed

>all of these borderline children

Sorry I didn't take these pictures, I saved them from a /k/ thread a month or two ago

I hope this thread will not derail into butthurt exchanges.
thanks for the dump

So much for America and their values against communism and authoritarianism. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

SOME FOLKS WERE BORN

No, I'm saying you're so desperate to rationalize your losing a war. To elaborate, it comes from your country's position of insecurity.

I'm rather salty about the fact that many of the people against the war were borderline socialists and waving communist flags in our own fucking country. You really think that I believe Westmoreland or Johnson/Nixon did a good job? I'm aware of the current geopolitical situation and rather pleased with it, but I can still take issue with certain things from the period.
Give it time, it will probably happen.
And yet you're posting with that flag.
I'll help you a bit before I hit the hay. If the thread is still up later, I'll dump more.

What would you prefer we do?

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My mother's family was from the central region. A lot of people got displaced and they were not the exception. After the war, we were relocated to Khe Sanh (part of the "new economic zones policy", the old site of intense battle. Lots of mines and unexploded ordinances remain in the soil. Every other day we'd have someone lose their legs or their lives because of it.
Then my grandma took my then young mother and together with a few others escaped further south and settled in a rubber tree plantation community.
Mum met dad there and I was born in '95. Despite being dirt poor in the countryside, I remember getting free vaccination which helped a lot since diseases like polio, measles and TB were rampant.
We moved to Saigon in 2003 and relocated 3 more times. It's stable now. I think the war was a mistake.

What do current young people (teens-20's) think about the war?

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Cut your """"defense"""" spending and spend the money on ... oh... idk... the rampant and systemic problems you have at home.

Stop acting like you have some moral high ground because 'muh nazis holocaust liberation' and 'muh democracy'.

Realize you don't have a democratic system and that your system may be better than others but its all relative and yours is certainly flawed and how conceited it is to assume you know whats best for other countries.

Wake the fuck up in general and get out of a two party system and take your country back from the wall street jillionaires running the show.

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Friendly reminder that Diem did nothing wrong, and that one of the main sources that the American journalists shitting on his regime used turned out to be a deepcover North Vietnamese agent

It really amazes me just how much this war changed our society and culture.

Indifference, young people didn't experience it first hand. Also, it's awkward to mention the war out of context so there's not much to say IRL.

Friendly reminder.

To add: I find it hilarious how the people of Vietnam (I've driven all over there) are fifty times happier with 1% the wealth of an average american. There's farmers there that haul shit on motorbikes that barely run to a market to sell it for like 10 USD/day so they can eat rice and dragonfruit AND THEY'RE GRATEFUL..

Meanwhile Burger McFatsofuck complains if his beer tastes a bit flat at Pizza Ranch, in between hauling his fat ass from the air conditioned Escalade to the buffet line.

I can't wait for you fucks to die out.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phạm_Xuân_Ẩn

>Recognized as a brilliant political analyst, beginning with his work in the nineteen-sixties for Reuters and then for the New York Herald Tribune and The Christian Science Monitor, and, finally, as a Time correspondent for eleven years, Pham Xuan An seemed to do his best work swapping stories with colleagues in Givral’s café, on the old Rue Catinat. Here he presided every afternoon as the best news source in Saigon. He was called “Dean of the Vietnamese Press Corps” and “Voice of Radio Catinat”—the rumor mill. With self-deprecating humor, he preferred other titles for himself, such as “docteur de sexologie,” “professeur coup d’état,” “Commander of Military Dog Training” (a reference to the German shepherd that always accompanied him), “Ph.D. in revolutions,” or, simply, General Givral.

>An was named a Hero of the People’s Armed Forces, awarded four military-exploit medals, and elevated to the rank of brigadier general.

Also if you want a laugh here's the record for one of the dumb journo cunts duped by An
>“An’s story strikes me as something right out of Graham Greene,” says David Halberstam, who was friends with An when he was a Times reporter in Vietnam. “It broaches all the fundamental questions: What is loyalty? What is patriotism? What is the truth? Who are you when you’re telling these truths?” He adds, “There was an ambivalence to An that’s almost impossible for us to imagine. In looking back, I see he was a man split right down the middle.”

>Cut your defense spending
Haha, no. While we are astronomically more ahead of the Russkies and the Chinese militarily, I'd rather we didn't take any chances. Having as many carriers as we do isn't cheap.
>Rampant and systemic problems
Only thing I can think of is infrastructure to pour more money into. The other problems need reform. For example, we pour an absolute fuckton of money into education at the federal level and we're still getting rather shit results. To me, that's indicative of a problem with how we are handling it and not how much we're spending on it.
>Stop acting like you have some moral high ground
Personally I don't give a flying fuck for that, we are a massive power in the world and if something gets in our way then too bad. Every large power in history was morally flawed in some way, and I'm more than aware of the shit we pulled in the past.
>You don't have a democratic system
Of course we don't, however short of a civil war I don't see that changing any time soon (though perhaps a civil war wouldn't be the worst option). And of fucking course its flawed, have you seen our popular opinion about congress.
>Conceited it is to assume you know whats best for other countries
And yet here you are trying to convince me what's best for mine. I will say that is one thing I can agree on, however that's more from the perspective that trying to fix sandnigger countries was a massive waste of time and that certain individuals such as Paul Bremer should've been shot for treason. I can see the merit in improving relations with a much more hands-off approach.
>wake the fuck up
Well in part that is happening, though probably not in the best way.
>Wall street jillionaires
Can get behind that for the most part.

Also, please tell me you aren't that Canadian socialist that pops up here in Sup Forums from time to time?
Try several hundred thousand and you'd be correct. Also, the VC as a military force was spent after Tet.

And I can't wait to annex you and make you state 51. Seriously though people have predicted our downfall since our inception, what makes you think you're getting it right this time around?
Forgot pic
Interesting, thanks for answering.

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The more more more attitude of you Americans will ultimately be your undoing, and possibly everyone else's too. You have zero right to go to another country and try to make them act in your best interests under the guise and pretense of "defense".

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Thanks 4 the dump an0n
>State 51
So... before Puerto Rico becomes a state?What was it that the civilians wanted, communism or the alternative? I've heard that the re-education camps were a nightmare. How were things once the US pulled out and theNorth took over?

>more more more
Our current president, despite all the drama, is rather isolationist compared to his most recent predecessors. Aside from possibly getting involved with a spate with North Korea (which I seriously doubt will happen, Kim's not stupid), I don't see us doing another Iraq 2.0 electric boogaloo anytime soon. Sooner or later, good end or bad, the wars in Iraq/Syria and Afghanistan will end.
>You have zero right to go to another country and try to make them act in your best interests
I already said I'm rather supportive of the hands-off approach, for the most part.

Also I'll ask again, are you the Canadian socialist that pops up here from time to time?

>Puerto Rico
Shit did they actually pass it this time? I actually wouldn't mind that.

NVA BTFO south vietnam, not the US, t*rkroach

PAVN if we're getting technical here. When I hear NVA I think of the East Germans with their odd helmets.

Where does one get a Bowie like that?

And here are some PAVN, with actual NVA gear. The NVA is getting equipment from the NVA. I believe this was a test unit or something since there aren't widespread reports of PAVN soldiers wearing the M/56.

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M56 is best helmet and I say this as a NATO-phile.

DDR was /fa/ af

I can't speak for the people. Personally I'd like my country to be independent, not a colony, not in some divided states. Political ideologies doesn't matter, as long as the average people are happy with their lives.
Reeducation camps were shitty. After the war we got isolated by the world. The US embargoed us until '95. The new government didn't do well economically. Things have been better nowadays, though.

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That actually seems pretty polite considering what it was intended for.

Long story short: The US couldn't beat rice farmers in a fight, so they just dropped napalm and pesticides over the entire country instead, and some neighbouring ones as well, because wut is geography? Still couldn't win, so they gave up after comitting more war crimes than any other nation in recorded history. Today the war is revered by all Americans as a great victory of the noble American soldiers against the barbaric Vietnamese subhumans, while Vietnamese babies are born with various deformations becaue of the chemicals dropped on their rice fields 50 years ago. The end.

Oh I definitely agree.
Yeah about that, why were you guys so eager to restore relations with us? Every postwar account I've read regarding everything from tourists to veterans returning say that there's very little if any hostility present and that every interaction they had with Vietnamese were exceedingly pleasant. So in spite of everything that happened, including never giving Nixon's promised reparations and the embargo, your government seemed to be very keen on getting back on friendly terms with us. Why?
You're forgetting the part where we were eating babies and the like.