If the holocaust is bullshit, why did all those Jews from all over Europe get transported to camps...

If the holocaust is bullshit, why did all those Jews from all over Europe get transported to camps? to just separate them from the public? I know the mass extermination was never really the plan, most died from starvation and disease. Did they just plan to keep Jews away from everyone else?

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Why did you do the same thing with the Japs? Same answer on a certain level.
But to be serious, they were all to be deported to Israel, so the war mixed things up a bit.

To keep the Jews from sabotaging the war like they did in WWI, and to use them as cheap labor.

It's not bullshit. There literally exist truckloads of evidence that the holocaust occurred. There are written records of the amount of trains that arrived at the death camps, as well as written records of how full said trains were. There are written records of the population in the ghettos of Germany and Poland before and after the holocaust. There are written records of the population in the concentration and death camps. In each death camp, there were multiple large incinerators that were more than capable of incinerating the bodies of the number of people that are known to have arrived there. The incinerators were built before the allies arriving in Germany and northern Poland, which refutes the commonly held argument that the Nazis had no intention of killing the Jews (and that they died simply from malnutrition when the allied stopped aid to the camps). In fact, that the holocaust occurred is a fact, and the extent of it is quite well-known.

>Why did you do the same thing with the Japs?

This.

And Stalin did the same with the Tatars. - they also didn't survive but somehow nobody cares and nobody calls that a genocide.

Jews as a people declared war on Germany, and cause an embargo of German goods in America. They were overwhelmingly in control of the media and subverting youth in the universities today's communism (sound familiar?).

They were enemies within, and had to be removed from society for the safety and progress of Germany. That does not mean they were all killed they were just interned. Same as the Japanese in America, and political undesirables in Russia, and the Japanese did this to Europeans living in China too.

John Hitlah!

There is no proven fact the gas chambers were actually used to kill Jews. If alot of the gas was used it is expected that it would leave behind blue stains: their were none. Alot of the bodies were autopsied and barley any died of gas. Many famous gas chambers were modified by the Russians to make it look like gas chambers, even one of the historical curators at Auschwitz said so in an interview. Alot of things were blown out of proportion to make Germans easier to prosecute an Nuremberg, pictures were modified, stories made up and so on.

They were prisoners of war.

Judea declared war on Germany.

They started the war.

They controlled FDR like a puppet. See the Polish White Papers. Treason.

Whats the explanation behind Hitler saying he wanted to exterminate them? He wanted for example to make a "Museum of the extinct race" surely he wanted to kill them all.

He never said that.

Pure propaganda. See original image.

Yea, I wouldn't be surprised. but do you have any link that its fake, cant really find much, Just want some evidence just in case.

oy vey its like another shoa

Do you any link that it's true?

All i can really find is articles and pictures saying its a real thing.

But he did want to exterminate them correct?

So, Soviet propaganda?

Yep, that's all there is.

No. He wanted to deport them.

Over half the German Jews voluntarily left before the war started. There weren't that many of them, only 500,000.

He had a deal with Israel to bring them to Israel.

The Soviets wanted a war to bring down the European Empires, and they did.

Now all the former colonies are Communist hellholes filled with AK-47s.

But Israel was created in 1948, 3 years after Hitler died.

> Israel has been around for thousands of years. The arabs and jews have always been fighting.

Havaara agreement.

it was just a prank, and the millions of people who starved to death and died from disease dont count as being killed by the germans either since it was an accident

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Germany was ruining itself by armament spending, especially, because Hitler remembered starvation during WW1 was not willing to cut on civilian production.
War (plunder) and labour camps (joos and undesirables) were a way for paying that expense

AH, okay thanks, got a bit confused.

Hitler created Israel, then the Jews stabbed him in the back.

How do Holocaust deniers explain the Wannsee Conference?

The plan was to kick all Jews out of Europe and this started when Germany was under a communist control. Not all Jews would leave and many would stay behind just to funnel more of their kind back in. They were truly like a plague. Communism is a harsher form of democracy wherein the mob rules to some extent and hatred for the Jews was not exclusive to nationalist socialists. The first concentration camps to facilitate Jews were built and maintained by Communists. When Hitler took power he really didn't change much. He focused instead on trying to make Germany great again and later on war. The Jews in the camps were never a big concern to him, but as the communists before him, he did try to deprive them from achieving political and economic power.

Wannsee Conference => Deportation Comittee

I never even mentioned gas chambers. What I did speak of were the crematoria and multiple incinerators. What do you believe the incinerators were used for? The trains full of people that were shipped to, but not from, the death camps, with virtually no other means to go anywhere else, are sufficient evidence in themselves that the people shipped to the death camps died there. The fact that multiple crematoria with high-temperature incinerators were built and used in the late 30s and early 40s up until the end of the war are evidence that people were killed at a systematic pace long before the allied arrived.

You could argue that all other evidence is made-up, such as how they were killed, which would of course be a lie. But then you'd still have to explain the above undeniable facts. These millions of people died in the death camps, and it was known and planned that they would die in that particular place at that particular time.

Israel wasn't a sovereign state before the 1940s, and the Israelis of Judea do not speak for all Jews in the world, especially not for Ashkenazi and other Jewish groups whose roots in the middle east stretch far back, with Ashkenazi being the primary victims of the holocaust of the Jews. One individual, or indeed a group of individuals, cannot decide a war status for an entire ethnic group, and in particular not one that is so diverse that it inhabits many different countries on multiple continents.

I suggest you take this.

12bytes.org/articles/history/test-your-holocaust-knowledge

quick question: the most common argument that I find for the Holocaust among people who are actually educated on the issue is: "why were none of the Nazis Holocaust deniers?" It kind of makes sense, they all cared so much about honor, why would they although the Jews to get away with this when they were at trial. Surely one of them would have placed country over their only life

I think alot of them were in on it, payed off by the Jews and helped in spreading propaganda in order for asylum maybe? not all the Nazis were killed at Nuremberg, many were spared.

If the Japanese Holocaust is bullshit why did all those Japs from all over the USA and Canada get transported to camps? To just separate them from the Public? I know the mass extermination was never really the plan, most didn't died from starvation and disease. Did they just plan to keep Jews away from everyone else?

Nobody is saying that Japs weren't separated, and from my knowledge not many died in the internment camps.

But why were they sent to camps? For the identical reason the Jews were.

Right but there were never any mass exterminations of the Japs dude.

Yes, that makes sense for some or even most but the issue is that there are NO cases of a Nazi Holocaust denier. They all just said they didn't know about the bad stuff or were pressured into it or whatever.

I know absence of evidence is not evidence or absence, but like I think it's a pretty relevant argument here.

>Right but there were never any mass exterminations of the Japs dude.
Because the USA was never subject to the massive bombing attacks and ground war Germany was. The UK came within a few days of running out of food nation wide thanks to uboats and bombers.

The prisoners of the German camps died mostly due to neglect because the Germans had limited resources to allocate and chose to give them to the military first, then the civilians lastly the non military prisoners.

I feel like they think they would get treated better if they accepted it, maybe it would be better for them on trial. Its an odd thing though. You never know maybe some have come out and said so but have been censored. In many countries its actually illegal to question the official account of the holocaust

So were the massive massacres of Jews in Ukraine not inspired by Nazis? I know the Ukrainians themselves did it but to appeal to the Germans.

Those people were shot to death by German security forces about 1.2 million people in all. They were not killed by the Nazi masturbation death machines, group electric chairs that turned everyone into ash, or the death roller coaster.

Or the seemingly slightly more plausible gas chambers.

>1.2 million people in all

wat

Im talking about Babi Yar my man, around 50K were killed all by Romanian troops.

Total deaths of civilians in the Eastern territories held by Germany.

Yes, I know a lot of the typical "denier" evidence and I think most people who are educated on the issue would agree that the Holocaust is at the very least exaggerated for propaganda. I'm not sure what to say to this point though. It's sound, logical, and simple. Censorship is the most rational explanation but like it doesn't play well in an argument you know?

Probably because many of them were well-aware that the holocaust occurred and were personally partly responsible for it, combined with the fact that the evidence was so overwhelming that their chances of not being executed would be best if they just told the court everything they knew while trying to make themselves seem as innocent as possible.

Sure man, i would just tell the people that your arguing with the get better educated on the subject.

>I think most people who are educated on the issue would agree that the Holocaust is at the very least exaggerated for propaganda
Walk into a graduate-level history class and see how many of them are Holocaust deniers. I'll even let you choose which part of history that class specializes in. Yes, this is a challenge.

Are you If yes, have you taken that quiz I linked you?

Actually, now that I think about it, one of the common things is that the Germans intentionally hid evidence, which is what the (((historians))) use in case of inconsistencies. But if the Nazis really went to that much effort to hide evidence, surely one of them would have used that in their trial right?

Maybe the question needs to be turned around: why WEREN'T there any Nazi Holocaust deniers, if the Holocaust really happened? Why would they let all the work destroying evidence go to waste?

Good point, they go through all the effort in destroying the gas chambers and all but in court say they did it. kek

I am genuinely in love with Anne Frank. She was beautiful, witty, and graceful young woman who light was snuffed out far too early. I frequently fantasize about being Peter van Pels hiding with her. Oh god, just imagine deflowering that sweet girl on a lazy Amsterdam afternoon, lying and learn what each other's bodies were for. Now imagine nine months later, she's got a massive bulging stomach from carrying your child inside of her and it seems like she’s gonna pop any moment now. Her popped belly button makes it look like she's got a giant third boob where her stomach once was. She waddles around and can barely move half of the time. She's developed an insatiable craving for your dick and you've likewise developed a taste for her pussy. You’re both cooped up in an attic all day have nothing better to do besides fuck like an unsustainable third world population. You lie down on your back, she strips off her almost comically too small clothes and kneels on top of you. She grabs a hold of your rock hard cock, inserts it deep inside of her, and begins to ride you like a stallion. You feel the pressure from her incredible weight and huge round belly bearing down on you but the indescribable pleasure of her tight pussy throbbing on you cock negates any discomfort. You sink into her beautiful soul, into that secret place where no one dares to go. After 30 minutes, you and her are both moaning with ever greater intensity, you know it won't be long now. Suddenly, you feel your cock shaking like a V-2 rocket and the orgasm reaches it's climax as your cum literally explodes like an 88mm AT round inside her Sherman tank, blowing the turret right off. You and her both join as one, souls screaming from the sheer ecstasy. As the elation wears off, she lies next to you. Too exhausted to do anything else, you simply hold her in your embrace. In that moment, there is no family squabbles, no Nazis, no war. Just you two, watching the sky turn pink with the setting sun.

>ignoring all possible other motives that history teachers and students could have

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Because they were enemies of Germany. Jews declared war on Germany.

Yep. Why would Historians and students deny it? they would not get hired anywhere if they do man. there is overwhelming evidence that its hugely exaggerated.

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While it is of course impossible to know the exact number of victims of the holocaust, and it is also difficult in some cases to determine who exactly were victims, the 6 million figure is a well researched estimate and not as is often claimed some arbitrary number which was planned before the holocaust occurred; had the estimate been, say, 4 million, some individuals had surely found other sources where that particular number was used by Zionists and other scholars in the 1930s and before. The extent and the intent of the holocaust are also quite well-known from communication between high-ranking Nazi leaders which was confirmed during the Nuremberg trials.

Yes, history teachers (many of whom are on tenure) and college students are paid off by the ZOG to spread the Holocaust lie throughout the entire circle of scholarly historical discourse. Never mind that Hollywood pays about as much attention to historians as a toddler does to the stock market, and the general public pays even less attention to them. Hell, I might be a JIDF agent without knowing it. The ZOG is just that far-reaching!

i don't like this thread.

>they would not get hired anywhere if they do man.
Because it's clear that they suck at history. A psychologist who is also a fanatical Freudian would never get hired for about the same reason.

Take this quiz, its a good start. enjoy.

12bytes.org/articles/history/test-your-holocaust-knowledge

Please look at the picture in this

source? I know there was a famous denier who was offering a cash prize to anyone who could find a historical document of Hitler acknowledging the Holocaust.

Um, tell me if you were a history student who didn't believe in the Holocaust, would you come forward with that? You would lose all credibility and all chances at future jobs in the field

Exactly, the Jews have manipulated the media and world government to the extant that if you go against the holocaust your career is destroyed.

lol

I would. Because then my professor would slap some sense into me with logic and facts, and I'd be cured of my idiocy. That's why he's there, after all.

labor camps

mostly penal labor.

wew lad

When you realize how effective the Jews are at keeping people ignorant.

Did you even read the excerpt?

Here are a couple of excerpts
remember.org/witness/links-let-nazi

See also
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Frick.html
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Goering1.html

He never said that

>jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Frick.html

Oh yes, the immortal words "Don't worry, when we are in power we shall put all of you guys in concentration camps", as record by the jewish virtual library. The most unbiased source of information in the world. Thank you.

How accurate is this? Tell me this isn't stormfront material

No he just wanted them out of the country.

>thread about jewish world conspiracy just flat out got deleted by mods, not even archived, deleted

Just dump this pathetic forum already, jews took over after m00t got cucked by a jew and sold it right after Sup Forums harbor happened last year.

>why did all those Jews from all over Europe get transported to camps?

To establish Israel in Palestine. Remember a few weeks ago that English politician got in trouble for saying Hitler was a Zionist? That's why.

That site is a quite accurate representation of what happened during the Nuremberg trials, but if it's not to your satisfaction I'm sure you can find more direct court papers someplace else. Is your issue with the site in particular or the Nuremberg trials in general?

>Germany still loses
>muh joooz

Absolutely intentional from the beginning. The 3rd Reich was a profit and protection racketeering enterprise.

They brutally tortured the defendants at the Nuremberg trials and coerced them into saying all sorts of outrageous lies. Many average Germans did, and still do speak out. You of course don't hear about that on CNN, and the most vocal ones are jailed.

Holocaust denial is illegal, a criminal offense throughout the EU. That should tell you everything you need to know. If something is so vehemently true, such a complete historical fact, why is it illegal to question it?

I wanted to fuck her until she was pregnant when I was 12 and first saw her picture. I only thought it was a waste of top tier pussy. I now know better.

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This.

Oy Vey! The NAZIs turned her into hot dawgs! This happened in my mind.

I mean I have issues with both. I find the evidence of lies and historical inaccuracies surrounding the Holocaust far more compelling than potentially faked/coerced evidence that does fit the narrative, tbqh. Why would you fake the truth?

I hate to disappoint you, but he did.

youtu.be/XMjGt8snhFU?t=2m15s

>2:15

Unless this is a bullshit translation, he literally calls for the destruction of the jewish race in europe.

Don't try to argue it here. The stormfags are so hooked on the idea that it was just a hoax they never accept the thousands and thousands of evidence that i happened but a homemade pic with some old newspapers and some facts in a box is so trustworthy to them. Point out that they even confessed and they will point at one book out of the thousands on the subject that claim they was beaten til they confessed. They are this stupid.

The multiple crematoria built long before the allies bombed the supply lines show that the death of a large numbers of individuals was not unexpected event caused by external factors but rather an expected, systematic phenomenon.

Never trust the translations, so many have come out as complete inaccuracies. dont know about this specific one but im taking it with a grain of salt.

We could just ask a German to translate for us.

Yes. Research the internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II. We did the same exact fucking thing. The only real difference is that our prisoners weren't kept in the middle of an active war zone, meaning that we had the ability to adequately care for them. The vast majority of the concentration/labor camp deaths occurred toward the end of the war as a direct result of the allied bombing of German supply lines.

Moishe, you're trying too hard. Go shill somewhere else. I heard reddit is serving free gefilte fish!

Goebbles Diary :

I read a detailed report from the SD and police regarding a final solution of the Jewish question. Any final solution involves a tremendous number of new viewpoints. The Jewish question must be solved within a pan-European frame. There are 11,000,000 Jews still in Europe. They will have to be concentrated later, to begin with, in the East; possibly an island, such as Madagascar, can be assigned to them after the war. In any case there can be no peace in Europe until the last Jews are eliminated from the continent.

That, of course, raises a large number of exceedingly delicate questions. What with those related to Jews? In-laws of Jews? Persons married to Jews? Evidently we still have quite a lot to do and undoubtedly a multitude of personal tragedies will ensue within the framework of the solution of this problem. But that is unavoidable. The situation is now ripe for a final settlement of the Jewish question. Later generations will no longer have the will power or the instinctive alertness. That's why we are doing a good work in proceeding radically and consistently. The task we are assuming today will be an advantage and a boon to our descendants.

I don't think it was a hoax. I'm certainly not a stormfag. But I'm fairly sure the official account is has been influenced by propaganda.

Jews died in camps. But I have a strong suspicion that all the people killed by whatever cause were tallied under the holocaust. Especially Typhoid.

Well what is compelling aside, the holocaust did occur. There is overwhelming evidence for it. If you study the Nuremberg trials you will find a massive amount of evidence that implicates the Nazis as responsible for a genocide of Jews - and others - in virtually every conceivable way.

>If you study the Nuremberg trials you will find a massive amount of evidence that implicates the Nazis as responsible for a genocide of Jews - and others - in virtually every conceivable way.
Let's take a look at the nuremberg trials, shall we?

Pic and links related.

Made in Russia: The Holocaust
cwporter.com/partone.htm
cwporter.com/parttwo.htm
cwporter.com/partthre.htm
cwporter.com/partfour.htm
cwporter.com/pg368.htm
cwporter.com/pg378.htm
cwporter.com/pg381.htm
cwporter.com/pg387.htm
cwporter.com/pg402.htm

Nuremberg Show Trials
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_show_trials

The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust
patriot.dk/nurnberg1.html
patriot.dk/nurnberg2.html

Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 19
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art19
>The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.

Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 21
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art21
>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.

Not Guilty at Nuremberg - Carlos W. Porter
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/CPeng.pdf

Nuremberg: The Last Battle - David Irving
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/DInur.pdf

Jew Run Nuremberg Show Trial
trutube.tv/video/27673/Jew-Run-Nuremberg-Show-Trial-Nazis-made-human-skin-hand-bags-and-slippers

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