Has anybody who was actually personally involved in the holocaust (camp guards, administrators, even some random based camp inmate) ever denied it? Nobody could possibly stand to gain more from proving that there was no intentional genocide or 6 gorillion than a Nazi on trial. Yet not even Adolf Eichmann, who was given a microphone and an opportunity to tell the entire world - who had nothing to lose and potentially everything to gain - ever disputed the holocaust. He even once mentioned the 5 gorillion figure.
You'd think that if the entire thing was Jewish propaganda there would be many, many notable examples of former camp guards, administrators, Nazi officials disputing the accepted narrative.
Holocaust deniers are autistic idiots for the exact reason you just stated. It's possible that the Holocaust is slightly exaggerated, but you're a moron if you think it straight up didn't happen.
William Garcia
it really makes you think
Isaiah Lewis
This.
Systematic killing occurred, however evidence and logistics show the numbers are exaggerated. Pretty simple.
Joshua Morgan
There is nobody who ever confirmed the holohoax.
Mason Robinson
Well their argument is that they were all tortured and forced to confess. Holocaust deniers are incredibly dumb people. First, for believing it's actually possible to fabricate something like Holocaust, and second because they unironically believe that Holocaust was the only crime of Nazi Germany. Try asking them how they rationalize the occupation of Bohemia and Moravia in 1939 (after Munich Agreement) and see how they are totally historically illiterate. They are people whose knowledge of history is based on pictures and select (often fake) quotes. Trash in every sense.
Wyatt King
Heiko Maas looks really old in this picture. I hope he didn't try to shill the fine gentlemen at his side some leftist ideology.
Alexander Wilson
Which doesn't change a thing. Even if 500,000 Jews were killed in the manner they were killed, it's a an incredible crime. Industrial extermination of people.
Grayson Davis
How based is Israel to kidnap a man from across the world . I wish more countries are fucking badass dont-fuck-with-us like Israel.
Benjamin Ortiz
>You'd think that if the entire thing was Jewish propaganda there would be many, many notable examples of former camp guards, administrators, Nazi officials disputing the accepted narrative.
There are.
They all ended in prison and their books, articles and research papers blacklisted.
Carson Nelson
in b4 stormwinnies post BUT HE WAS TORTURED
Carter Myers
It's so hard fabricate a fake number. We never saw jews do it before.
Adam Powell
>they are >but I have no proof of it Then your opinion doesn't matter at all. It's as simple as that. Furthermore, if Jews are so omnipotent that they are able to silence any academic criticism of what's virtually unanimously approved version, they have transcended humanity, and honestly deserve to rule everyone.
Oliver Roberts
In b4 BUT EICHMANNS FAMILY WAS THREATENED
Jaxson Hughes
They were not killed, retard. Not a single jew was gassed. Some jews died out by disease spread or hungry but it is everything.
Carson Robinson
>believing muslim propaganda
Jayden Sullivan
Man you're fucking dumb, it's unpleasant to talk with you even over internet. Who cares about number you idiot? There is so much proof and confessions that the fact that Holocaust occurred is beyond any fucking doubt. Only thing that can be discussed is the number of people who were killed. Intention to kill existed. Killings happened. That's literally all that matters, you retarded favela monkey.
Jason Adams
stormwinnies everywhere
Angel Rivera
they all have a superiority complex just like people who do lsd and feel they gained some secret knowledge
Colton Butler
Okay monkey, let me draw it for you. See, in red, it's German troops. Millions of men, who were fed and clothed and supplied with ammo and what else. In green is the location of extermination camps. Now, to reach red, you need to pass over or near green. So ''they starved cause Allies bombed infrastructure'' is the most idiotic argument I ever heard. And if they concentrated people somewhere and let them starve, it's still a war crime. Do you understand now?
Parker Clark
How much JIDF are paying you? shills.
Dylan Turner
except there really is no definite proof besides confessions and eyewitnesses, which are unreliable at best and downright lies at worst. The whole story has been rewritten so many times that nobody could feasibly try to create a clear picture anymore.
Jaxon Martin
Here is the picture for our monkey friend.
Ian Morales
more like an incredible achievement
parasitic people
David Baker
Yes thousands of testimonies from ordinary soldier to high-ranking Nazis are all unreliable. Millions of Jews magically missing is also an accident. Mass graves in Ukraine and elsewhere where hundreds of thousands were shot were also not a proof, right? The fact Einsatzgruppen existed is also not a proof? Remnants of camps, acquisition of furnaces for burning corpses, mass deportations to extermination camps, all this witnessed by literally millions, that never occurred right? People like you should be imprisoned, not cause you deny Holocaust or criticize Jews (I don't give a fuck about Jews), but because you're so fucking stupid.
Noah Ward
But it happened in my mind
Nathan Green
Never before have I seen such a lack of understanding of logistics. It's about prioritization. If there is the need for lets say 100 tonnes of supply per day for every operation in the country to work, from the doctor using fuel to drive to work to the bomber beeing loaded at an airfield somewhere in the east, and that need is beeing met everything is fine.
If however through sabotage or allies that need is no longer met because only 80 tonnes of supply per day can go where they need to go, you have to start prioritizing.
And "undesirables" usually don't make the top of that list.
Leo Gomez
Nobody gives a single fuck nowadays
Did Jews die en masse? If no, they lied for shekels, if yes, goto next line Did 6 million Jews die? If no, they lied for shekels, if yes, goto next line Don't Jews always shoah-blackmail everybody who disagrees with antiracism or farright taboo they impose on the white world through media power and political networks? Always extort goy tears with grandpa camp story? How moral is that? If no, you're the retard, if yes, they are bastards
Samuel Johnson
>they starved cause Allies bombed infrastructure
exact, why is this idiot? Because it is true?
Germany was in war, they barely could to feed their civilians yet their prisoners.
Jack Brown
There were camps. People died in them due to disease and hunger (especially during the end of the war when there was widespread food shortage) and probably a few were shot too.
But the numbers are not even close to 6 million. There were no gas chambers. There were no lampshades being made. Etc.
Jordan Bailey
Who care, they were joos, and they are all dead now. Just another random genocide of history, not relevant for today people.
Ayden Sanders
Riddle me this:
On the one hand, you believe that man is evil enough to systematically exterminate the jews using methods such as masturbation machines and lampshade skinning.
Yet on the other hand, you refuse to believe that it is possible that man is evil enough to threaten the families of "war criminals" in order to get them to confess.
So which is it? Why are you willing to believe one fantastical claim but not another? You're willing to believe in masturbation machines, but not political threats? Strange. The brainwashing in Canada's education system must be strong.
Thomas Brown
no. despite all denier and stormfag claims that "ITS ALL MADE UP!!" and "THOSE PEOPLE STARVED BECAUSE OF ALLIED BOMBINGS!"
Literally no one on trial made this argument. They all made the "I was just following orders" excuse, from the grunt in the guard tower all the way up to Eichmann.
The whole holocaust denial thing is just retarded. I get it, you hate jews, but makes no sense to try to deny some bad shit happened to them in the late 30s through the early 40s in Europe. Plus most deniers on Sup Forums at least know dick about the holocaust and have no understanding of even the official story before they dive into gay youtube conspiracy theory shit. This may be just a thing for all conspiracy theorist though
Christopher Parker
Doesn't anyone have the infographs for this guy? I really don't feel like digging them out, didn't bother to rename the files so they are just post numbers.
Luke Taylor
>Yes thousands of testimonies from ordinary soldier to high-ranking Nazis are all unreliable. After interrogation methods that would never be accepted in a real court of law. But I most be crazy all these evil nazis willingly told the world they killed millions for no reason but the goodness of their hearts, after all they didn't get leniency for these "confessions" >Millions of Jews magically missing is also an accident. Jews were taken to camps, but these camps weren't meant for mass killing. What kind of idiot would round people up, get their information, write that information, put them on trains, send them across Europe, feed them, give them clothes, just so they could kill them all? The camps were for making them work and stopping them from sabotaging Germany again. >acquisition of furnaces Oh no, a furnace, that's proof that Hitler killed the Jews
Tell me why are all the "death" camps we know about only the ones the Russians found?
Ayden Peterson
>prioritization Exactly. I addressed that in the end. If you concentrated (imprisoned) people somewhere, that is if you put them in such conditions that caused mass deaths, it's still a massive fucking war crime. >their prisoners Exactly. They imprisoned them, you literal cretin. >Germany was in war The one they started. Lampshades are bullshit. Same myth existed in WW1 IIRC. But rest was real.
Robert Gray
It was never about denying the Holocaust. Why should anybody denying the most symbiotic connection of industrialisation, bureaucraty and war?
It is only about countering an institutionalized narrative, used as a vector for censorship and lies to keep sheeps in check, like muahh 6 Gazillion lampshade soaped in gas.
No one denies that europeans killed Millions, it just weren't Millions of jews.
Benjamin Jones
>They all made the "I was just following orders" [citation needed]
Kayden Jenkins
Here's what I think, Germans killed a lot of partisan commies and commisars, and a lot of them were Jews. The ones rounded up in camps were probably worked really hard, in some cases to death. A combination of Typhus and no supplies killed the majority of the ones who died in camps. 6 million is completely fucking false, and the jewish religion has been replaced by Holocaustism. You didn't need evidence at Nuremburg, forced confessions, and it being real in my mind tells me that Germany is responsible for no more than 500,000 deaths, but the Jews have been milking it ever since. Also Jews led the spartacist revolution of 1918, so why wouldn't Hitler hate them?
Bentley Jenkins
>infographs Dude I read actual books instead of getting educated by a bunch of retards on Stormfront. >interrogation methods You are aware many Nazis served their sentences and were released. And yet none of them said ''they tortured me, it's all a lie''. >willingly In fact of overwhelming evidence. Unlike you, they weren't anonymous, so when faced with 2 and 2, they had to say it is indeed 4. >Jews were taken to camps Sure. That's slave labor. War crime. And if they died, it's also a war crime. >we know about only the ones the Russians found? Because they were located in occupied Poland you idiot, and Soviets occupied Poland.
Kayden Wright
And all German civilians killed in bombings, or those killed and expelled after war, were Nazi murderers. Glad we solved that.
Cooper Johnson
>>their prisoners >Exactly. They imprisoned them, you literal cretin. Every nation in the world have prisoners, you fucking stupid. >Germany was in war The one they started. No, they did not, learn some history.
I'm trying to find that interview of a woman who was at auschwitz who said she never heard of any gassings.
Ayden Thomas
>learn some history Here's the last (You), cherish it
David Kelly
>forced confessions
except that they werent forced at all. inb4 you link to some citationless literally who neo-nazi blog to back up this revisionist history claim
>Also Jews led the spartacist revolution of 1918, so why wouldn't Hitler hate them?
5 jews leading this revolution is a pretty sad ass excuse for the holocaust. What about the 10,000 jewish Germans that fought for Germany on the front lines of WW1? How does 5 jews="all jews are in on this!!"?
And its pretty hypocritical to bitch about those jews leading a socalist revolution against the German government when Hitler literally did the same thing in 1923
Lucas Russell
shill much? hohlocaust was like 100 years it's time to forget it and move on, if you're going to strive and grasp your straws on such events people will eventually turn their backs on you, and lets not forget that Jews were expelled from different nations through out history
Grayson Clark
>That's slave labor. War crime. And if they died, it's also a war crime. But it's not a mass killing of people like has been the narrative.
>Because they were located in occupied Poland you idiot, and Soviets occupied Poland They had other camps, all the ones that UK and US found were just normal work camps
Jayden Reyes
>I read actual books Biased books written by ''Goldberg'' and liberals.
Here is the problem. You are brainwashed.
Ryan Reed
Not really. That would be like comparing Chinese leading a communist revolution in America compared to Americans leading a popular revolution with the overwhelming support of their fellow countrymen.
Matthew Kelly
Dude I don't give a fuck about Jews, I just love shitting on Hitlerboo faggots. >h-hey man look at this video made by some autistic scrawny faggot, you'll totally get redpilled bro, no need to read those boring history books or anything!!111 Fucking degenerates.
Asher Reyes
not to defend holocaust denial but the nazis on trial were frequently bribed and threatened and tortured literally by jews who wanted revenge on them
Asher Young
If they were completely indoctrinated by the ideology that what they were doing was right then why would they feel the need to deny it?
Eli Sullivan
>But it's not a mass killing of people like has been the narrative.
>all the ones that UK and US found were just normal work camps
Look up action T4 and 14f13 and what the Einsatzgrouppen did on the eastern front. This wasnt just "work camps"
This is "just a normal work camp" liberated by the British
Isaiah Hall
The holocaust was just camp rumors that were spread. Normal jews who probably weren't zionists just repeated these lies after they left the camp because apparently, with the help of the jewish stranglehold over the media, those rumors were true.
Benjamin Campbell
You say that yet uf you examined the hard evidence yourself and ignored the mostly autistic denier you would be questioning aswell.
Treblenka would have needed to Cremate 3000 bodies a day to even come close to the numbers that have been given.
A modern cremation takes 2/12-3 HOURS a body.
Let that sink in.
Also >JIDF plz go
Parker Cook
>Tell me why are all the "death" camps we know about only the ones the Russians found?
This was a double win for the Soviet NKVD. They could make up fantastic claims about the evil fascist death camps, while they themselves took over the camps and put political prisoners in them.
Samuel Roberts
>mass killing It is. Putting a group in such a situation that causes mass death is an act of genocide. >they had other camps Yep, in Germany and Austria. My grandpa was in one of them. Of course they didn't want to exterminate people in the middle of Germany. German public wouldn't take it so well. General Government (occupied Poland) was the perfect place for it. You also have to understand, and I'm aware you don't know that because you're American, that Nazis killed awfully lot of people who weren't Jews. Like some 20 million Soviet civilians.
Andrew Morris
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Grayson Gray
>Germany can barely feed itself afet massive bombing >So Jews starve to death
Wow this really proofs me wrong
Adam Parker
Didn't Hitler kill 6 Brazilians? Why do people keep talking about it? What is so great about those spics, and why all the tears over their sad fate?
Dylan Anderson
>SS testimony
kek
Samuel Martinez
Hows the 3rd world doing? Trade your goat for some hot water again?
Caleb White
Runaway shill, you was completely demolished.
There were no war crime. Germany did not start the war.
Zachary Mitchell
>overwhelming support of their fellow countrymen
The beer hall putsch wasnt popular at all, and neither was the nazi party at any time before hitler declaring himself dictator and making it the only party. I mean, at least the 1918 civil war last for a few months and was an actual struggle to some degree. The Beer Hall Putsch was just one day of Hitler and his brown shirts getting fucked up by riot police and thrown in jail
You are looking back on history now with the mindset of knowing how big of a deal Hitler is, but in 1923, he was just another kooky socialist revolutionary in post-WW1 Germany.
And you didnt adress my other point of the jewish german WW1 soldiers, or how the leaders means all jews were in on it
Alexander Wright
Propaganda about something doesn't mean that something didn't happen. Who knows, maybe that happened? Germans did a lot of sadistic shit in the East.
Im a jew and i have doubts that people were gassed to death at Auschwitz
Jackson Perez
I bet theyre up to sell their whole family on this
Alexander Bennett
GAS THE KIKES A S
A dead jew is a good jew
Luis Edwards
>Wow this really proofs me wrong
it actually does. you making shitty historically illiterate excuses for it isnt an argument though. They werent "just work camps" like you said they were
>Germany did not start the war.
Germany invaded the Rhineland
Germany invaded the sudentland
Germany promised the world that was it, then invaded the rest of czechoslavakia
Germany then invaded Poland with Russia
BUT OMG FRANCE AND BRITAIN DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY FOR NO REASON!
Jordan Mitchell
And what about the Lithuanian death squads and the SS death squads?
Caleb Scott
The biggest evidence is the fact many of them even while on trial and about to be hung openly praised Nazi Germany and what they were trying to achieve with the final solution.
A lot of them were proud.
Lucas Collins
I don't even like Nazis that much, I just really hate Jews.
Jaxson Clark
>muh youtube videos!
>Im a jew
no you arent
Owen Davis
>Allies bomb anything and everything they can >bomb train tracks >bomb cities full of civilians >bomb factories >bomb EVERYTHING >Supply route are severed >have to choose >Feed the camp guard or feed the prisoner. >not enough food for both >not enough food for even guards
Sad really. Western propaganda was successful if you think all the bombing was justified.
Brayden Green
>Yep, in Germany and Austria. My grandpa was in one of them.
this all explained. It's all folks.
Charles Johnson
He literally got a few months in prison for treason you retard.
Do you think if the people didn't love him, and even the aristocracy who was in charge of the prison, they would only give him that sentence for fucking treason?
David Lane committed treason and got 3 consecutive life sentences in a supermax prison in solitary confinement.
>hitler got into power and declared himself dictator with no support of the common people
You just can't make this shit up lmao.
Lucas Collins
>Im a jew You're also a Canadian, which makes you automatically retarded. >invaded Rhineland That can't really count, they simply re-militarized it. And UK and France awarded them Sudety. I mean you're right, I'm just correcting you on details.
Jacob Flores
Slavic brat, i like how you destroy the hitlerite faggots, but The Jews are an foreign entity and they Can use holocauast as propaganda to further their Globalist anti-slav agenda. Be carefull
Lucas Peterson
>Nice argument
William Scott
>And you didnt adress my other point of the jewish german WW1 soldiers, or how the leaders means all jews were in on it
Because it's a stupid point that only idiots make.
>hurr some jews were alright that means there wasn't a jewish push for communism and the stab in the back wasn't orchestrated by a powerful clique of jews
Yeah no shit dude. There were jewish soldiers in the wehrmacht in ww2 dummy.
Jaxon Martinez
It doesn't take a genius. Just holocaust denial laws which can lead you to prison in no time, Horst Mahler currently spends ten years again. Yeah, not the best example for academia, bbut for the harshness of the law itself. Especially when you connsider that two roaches who killed a 19 year old student in a car chase walked out of the court.
And the whole structure of the state of Germany is basically an antifa-state. Partially created by the victors of WW2 and their heritage by the political left. Plus, there were enough historic habbenings, the holucaust wasn't completely invented out of nothing obviously.
What I find more interesting actually is how dependent the current state of Germany is on the civil religion of the holocaust. When Bibi tried to only lift a single bit of pressure from Germanistan in his speach about the grand mufti, it was GERMAN politicians who attacked him and that it was Germany's fault, as in the country entirely, and it's fault alone. By Merkel's party btw. - Very, very unhealthy, hateful and neurotic relationship. And this combinatined with a state of "sovereignity" where the NSA has the entire parliament under constant surveillance...
Long story short: I have no issues with the historicity of the Shoah. I have however a great disdain for every maligne politician, lowlife journalist and manipulative author who uses the holocaust to drive his own perverted political agenda or kill off a political competitor by accusations of racism and antisemitism. Which happens again and again and again and again...
Besides >proofs You should be able to find cases on the net yourself. Come on, it's 2016!
Ain't no danny deck chair flying higher than you are my man- put your fist up against your screen right now- mine is waiting for you to bump it-
Cooper Morgan
>It also says they had sex with the devil
Sebastian Long
t. negro
Ethan Thompson
He was sentenced to 5 years, but only served three.
And the nazi party was never popular at all before hitler took power. Theres a reason he tried to start a revolution, because no one was voting for him. Even after he got out of prison and the conditions of Germany began to improve, the party numbers were falling and loosing support.
>You just can't make this shit up lmao.
HURR WHO WOULD VOTE FOR HITLER?!
He was appointed chancellor you dope. not voted in with massive support of the populace.
Luis Anderson
OMG WILL SOMEONE PULL THE Sup Forums INFOGRAPHS FOR THIS GUY? stfu faggot
Nathaniel Carter
I have the paperwork!
Bentley Gonzalez
The polish were slaughtering ethnic Germans on the boarder of Poland and Germany and boasting about it.
Hitler himself told them to fucking stop and they kept the "hurr polish stronk" meme going.
Then Germany invaded Poland WITH Russia and kicked the shit out of those polacks.
UK amd France were ignoring Germanys strive for peace. While Germany was promoting peace the UK was issuing gas masks to civilians fear mongering them into thinking Germany was going to invade the world.
Mason Collins
JIDF shill, that video single handedly proved the holocaust was fabricated. Actually watch it you fucking kike cuck
James Williams
They didn't want to place them in germany proper, but in occupied territories, in the general government part of poland. I believe it's due to some legal reason they placed them all in the east.
Josiah Lee
I haven't seen this much shilling in weeks.
Robert Lewis
Don't worry Swedecuck, I'm not a Jew fanboy. I'm just tired of these new worlder retards teaching me history. As if they have history books in America and Brazil. >who uses the holocaust to drive his own perverted political agenda That's absolutely deplorable and I'm disgusted at how some of them made an industry out of it. I also mostly agree with you on the rest. However, we are talking about facts and FACT is that Holocaust happened. Rest stands. I find it idiotic that modern Germans should apologize for Holocaust even today.
Brandon Bell
The obsessive invocation of the cabalistic fable of “6,000,000 dead or dying Jews” dating back at least four decades prior to the events of WWII directly undermines and betrays the notion that 6,000,000 Jews perished in Europe between 1939-1945, as Jews have claimed. It was a lie the first time, and it is a lie today
Parker Rodriguez
Behead all Who insult Poland!
Andrew Garcia
I would say its something to do with the recent europa law.
As soon we range ban them the better desu.
Isaac Collins
>stopping them from sabotaging Germany again TIL that my grandmother, 14 at the time, was sabotaging germany from her Hungarian village and that's why it was justified to hold her in inhumane conditions in a forced labor camp, separated from her family, whom she never saw again after the war