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>On CNN Right now
>Atheism is good
>Its the new normal
>Up to 50% of people would be atheist if they admitted what they really thought
>Congress needs more atheists
This is the downfall of society

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I think it's funny that the best representative those fedoras can come up with is some fat SNL jew.

They're right. Theism is for children that don't want to grow up.

Atheism is for useful idiots who's only purpose is tho serve as instruments for the cultural Marxists.

>there are people browsing Sup Forums right now who unironically follow the words of some 2000 year old dune tomes

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Atheism has nothing to do with the downfall of society. Though I would agree that atheist usually have a different moral compass than a religious person.

that guy looks kind of orange

>Atheism has nothing to do with the downfall of society.

The promotion of atheism is a key part of communist subversion. The loss of religious identity is related to social decline, as Glubb noted.

Post fedora memes. That'll show 'em.

good thing those yurops are adopting religion as we speak

Statistically Atheists lean to the left.

That just proves that secularism is a dead end. You remove Christianity from public influence, and Islam rushes in to fill the void.

>loss of religious identity

yawn. i know that jews deliberately attacked christianity and im glad they did it, its shit morality that causes racial decline. every 55 IQ fucking congo pygmie has a soul according to Christians. Every single one of that 33 thousand being born every day.

we need an identity based on reality and nature, not jewish superstition.

Christianity preserved European identity for centuries. The strongest resistance to the refugee program comes from the most religious nations.

>we need an identity based on reality and nature, not jewish superstition.

That is where the degeneracy flows like water through a busted dam.

I am an atheist, but when you remove incentive for people to act morally, they... don't act morally.

Neo-nazis are degenerate fucks. They believe in mythical, paganistic European spiritualist ideas, and they have no concept of morality, especially when it comes to women.

A jew attacking Christianity you say? Shocking.

ALso, anyone have the LUther quote about baptizing Jews in the elbe?

Religion is for plebs.
You can easily be right wing conservative without it.

>Torontomen actually believe this
Russia sends it's keks

And Russia degenerated under state atheism and is now restoring the Church to social prominence.

You can be a libertarian at best, and libertarians always fail.

Europe should embrace it then, since, as you say, it would save them from social degradation
We ought to follow the example of pious countries such as Bangladesh, Yemen, and Indonesia

But it wouldn't be Europe anymore. The West is Christian.

Literally thousands of years with the religious in control of every facet of our lives. They have driven countries into the ground, driven up every countries debt to unpayable levels, enslaved millions throughout history,oppressed countless lives, and are constantly invading/infiltrating all positions of influence of power, including fast food management positions.

Yeah....atheism will lead to the downfall of society. kys

I'm an "atheist" in the literal sense of the word because I do not actively believe in God even though I would be open to the idea with some proper evidence.

That said, I am a "Christian" because I am white and live in Western Christendom and believe in the good works and cultural superiority of my in-group that I owe my very existence to.

By "atheists" in powerful government positions they just mean kikes who identify as "atheist" and are the ones who started pushing the concept in the first place.

Just another divide and conquer tactic. Push a legitimate argument or fact that may actually be true but also serves the purpose of disarming your enemies so you can destroy them. I figure its unlikely that god exists, but I know the Jews don't really believe that and they want to undermine Christianity to weaken the last bastians of white identity we have left.

>You can be a libertarian at best
Are you saying Hitler was a libertarian?

Atheist societies self-destruct faster than religious ones.

Hitler wasn't an atheist.

>This is the downfall of society
Been reading Jeremiah lately... I hope as a nation we don't turn our backs to God. I'd rather not end up like Europe.

>downfall of society

Kiss my ass.
>atheist leadership
>not bound by divine law to sacrifice our civilization for jews, niggers, and dunecoons
>purge, and restructure human civilization
>go to the stars

>“All that’s left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59-60

Who said anything about 'western' society? At least Europe would not be a degenerate faithless society and women would know their place.

hitler was a coward

>Though I would agree that atheist usually have a different moral compass than a religious person.
You're right. We acknowledge that we do not need incentive to behave. Unlike the religious, who don't know how to control themselves at all. And the worst part is that, you all know that. You do not have the capability to act decently without "the big bribe", you don't. It's so easy to not act shitty throughout your lives, but you willfully, gleefully, and adamantly refuse to do so. You are like a labor union who goes on strike during christmas(christmas being "god) and won't go back to work unless you get something unnecessary in return(the eternal life fantasy).
You're basically a bunch of thugs.

So libetarians wants to eliminate degenerate filth and the whole middle east now?

That would be true if there have ever been an atheist society.

CNN is sounding a bit Islamophobic and anti-Semitic these days.

I wish humans would stop destroying my faith in humanity.

What's weird about their "big bribe" is that if clinical immortality was ever developed, they would become suicide bombers to stop it.

Screencap this, post again in a hundred years.

Maybe you shouldn't be so fucking weak minded.

Maybe you're right. My country is 80% atheist and 10% roman catholic and i can see downs of atheism.

But when I look at current state of roman catholic church? Meh. JESUIT pope kissing shoes of muslims, encouraging their conquest, homosexuals etc.

I'd join if the faith would be restored to pre-Justinian II. christianity - reincarnation was a pillar of faith and the religion was actually sane. But i won't ever sign up for this shit.

And I don't want to go ape shit for norse or celtic paganism because the tradition is long gone and bloody sacrifices doesn't sound very nice anyway.

The pendulum swings harder with every pass.

The next decade should be entertaining.

Exactly! They can't even handle fucking stem cell research, ffs. A research that has literally led to zero deaths.

Atheism has always been forced on white societies by Jews. It only leads to enslavement.

Table Talks were written after the war to discredit Hitler.

t. muhammed

Atheists can never stop degeneracy because they never have any true definition of morality.

Every communist society ever.

Why can't we be intellectually honest AND not cucked? even hitler would have phased out christianity and replaced it with some non-religion-psudo-pagen mysticism eventually.

I have a better idea: let the high IQ, white, nations continue on in their intellectually honest atheism and just keep the jews and women out of politics or the nation? I mean you don't RELLY think that the average male atheist swede would have dictated their cuckening right? the fall of all the white atheist nations smells fishy

When will society take THE red pill and admit that Agnosticism is the only way?

East Asia, assuming superstition =/= organized, practiced religion

>Every communist society ever.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>Atheism has always been forced on white societies by Jews.
Oh, ok. You're a nutjob. Conversation over.

>reincarnation was a pillar of faith

No it wasn't. Find a traditional Roman Catholic church that rejects Vatican II.

I agree with most of your points, but I would argue that Traditionalist morality can be inspired but divorced from literal belief in a God in an ALL WHITE high-trust society with no merchant influence. Basically if Hitler had one and Germany had moved Atheist I think it still would have flourished.

Atheism was a pillar of communism, you dolt.

>East Asia, assuming superstition =/= organized, practiced religion
You can't be an atheist and be "spiritual". The whole point of the term is the public rejection of that sort of thing.

Read your Glubb. Atheism always indicates a period of decline. Racial identity isn't enough.

We should embrace atheism, and demonize all that follow any religion, including Jews. Poetic, no?

The Jewish society also suffers from liberalism, and is fracturing because of it. Let them introduce social concepts that corrode their own desert religion.

Atheists are more superstitious that Christians.

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Nations in Latin America and Africa are Christian and they are complete shitholes that are over run with degeneracy. Meanwhile, atheistic nations like the DPRK are strongly nationalistic and degeneracy is outlawed and practically nonexistent.

>would have phased out christianity
which is why god smited him, duh

Jews are predominately atheist and thrive in atheistic countries. You will only empower them.

>the pope wants you to convert to islam.
>atheist dotn want you to be a part of organized religion which islam is a form of
clearly the pope isnt representing the lesser of all the evils

>Jews are atheist

Mutually exclusive.

Just the downfall of the god delusion. Religion is cancer, even athiesm. Its cancer because it tries to be a substitute for critical thinking and personal experience. Enjoy your close minded bullshit while you can, religiousfags.

Atheists are almost always amoral turbo lefty faggots. They're people who have no hangups with promiscuity, abusing drugs and supporting drug trafficking and etc. To most atheists, morality is something "religious", and they seem unable to form their own code of ethics or moral compass without "God" because once renouncing their faith which they never really had they go full nihilism and think hedonism is the way life should be lived. Speaking generally, of course.

For one thing, I never have EVER met a "feminist" Catholic or Christian. I just fucking never have. There might be some. They are the exception, not the rule. Conversely, feminists are almost always atheists with a snide disdain for religion and not surprisingly are usually turbo sluts who stay single into their 30s and wonder where all the good men have gone.

They went looking for religious girls who didn't spend their 20s doped out on a cocktail of drugs and full of semen they don't even know how they got inside them.

>pendulum swings
this meme needs to die, the pendulum isnt going to do shit, degeneration and liberal commie scum has gotten worse and worse its not changing you faggot

>Religion is cancer, even athiesm
MUTUALLY.
EXCLUSIVE.
CONCEPTS.

Believing in falsehoods for the "good" of society can't last forever. We aren't banging sticks together anymore. It takes literal brainwashing to keep the population religious on the whole and shutting down critical thinking for the sake of curbing degeneracy is some Muslim-tier shit.

White people are better than that. We were able to handle modern science and we can handle the natural increase in agnosticism/atheism as long as it isn't being pushed by enemy groups to subvert us.

I am happy to agree to disagree though. I personally prefer truth over useful lies for my own people.

Are you retarded? You live in England, right? Almost everybody is an atheist.

Atheist liberals have shown themselves to be tolerant of Islam.

because every atheist is a fedora tipper right?
also, you don't have to believe in a deity to believe in other paranormal /x/ tier stuff

Lol yeah man, focusing on reality instead of the possibility of the next life and it's consequences is so horrible brof. We could like, solve a lot of our problems if we just ignored reality and focused on discussing the next life, right? Haha choice, A

yeah, we definitely need more christian sharia

dumbfuck

Fuck off you and your santa

Yeah but god isn't real.

Oh, you say he is? Well why don't you prove it?

>inb4 muh 2000 year old dune coon book that stole stories told by the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians

a beautiful site tbqh senpai

If christianity was superior enough to displace paganism, does this mean atheism is superior to christianity?

but east asia is traditionally irreligious. not a good argument

The problem with this whole thread is two differnt arguments are being made at once.

One argument is about whether god LITERALLY exists as a fact, and the other is if society should be religious/Christian regardless of if its ultimately true or not based on the outcome/ad hominum.

people who believe in god arent interested in making you believe because it has little impact on them

shitheads like this guy is why I don't tell people generally that I don't have a religion

No cause Athiests are dying off. It's like an STD that sterilizes a culture.

>tfw atheist but more traditional than most christians i know
>e.g. don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't go clubbing or have one night stands with sluts
what the actual fug is happening this century?

I'd say atheism in and of itself doesn't cause the downfall of society but the way people "practice" their atheism does.

I'd consider myself an agnostic atheist, but I can see religion for what it is and it definitely has it's uses. It pulled us out of tens of thousands of years of barbarity and gave common people common ground with common goals.

Religion (Christianity most of all) has solidified the nuclear family, traditional values and love. It's why we're nations today. You can be an agnostic or even an atheist for that matter and uphold these values, but for the most part these New-Atheists only exist to destroy religion for their own perceived oppression.

Religion is false, but that doesn't make it useless.

i'm an atheist but it's a shame that it's been co-opted out of just being "not believing in a religion", to having some sort of moral code attached to it. It's become a tool of the "enlightened left" to remove christian culture and how it's been embedded into our society - which has ultimately left us with the best ideologies and most successful nations.

It's a fucking shame - I really believe christianity has had a great, positive impact on our culture, and I believe society should be secular - that being said, breaking the boundaries and trying to remove our traditions and history for the sake of leftist degeneracy is ruining our nations.

yes but your delusions impact the progress of society. i kindly ask all religious nut jobs keep their fantasies to themselves/the confines of their own homes. we don't care that you're afraid of death and the unknown, just leave the rest of us sane people alone.

lol.

Look at your "atheist" generation of Justin Bieber, Anita Sarkeesian, mainstream feminism, dead marriage rates, declining white population and a "white male" witch hunt that's going round the clock every day of the week.

Now look at the Romantic Period and Baroque Period where every composer was an alien-level intellect and a genius that wrote music PURELY for the worship and admiration of God, funded by the church to do so. Now look at the "dark ages", a period until quite recently unashamedly misnamed by le anti religion atheistic faggots who have a chip on their shoulder, actually a period of HUGE human advancement and enlightenment.

Isaac Newton. Mozart. These people were deeply religious and absolutely NO ONE exists like them today. The environment, politically, culturally and religiously, simply doesn't allow for this type of talent and this level of intellect to shine.

>American flag

No wonder. You guys are the most fucking annoying ones about atheism because you're not even intellectual or well read about it. The shit you types say is Seth MacFarlane tier sophistry.

>CNN
>nobody watches
>nobody cares
pandering to SJWs as a last hope

That's the most disturbing aspect of Christianity. Shouldn't you be trying to save as many people from hellfire and eternal suffering as possible? Not giving a fuck and letting everyone burn but yourself is not Christian.

But that's wrong.

Well the argument as stated in OPs initial post is whether Athiesm can produce or sustain a civilization(it can't).

Autists come in here, despite the numerous hundreds of threads covering Sup Forums, about Gods exist/non-existence.... Because in the end that's the only defensible grey area they have for a argument.

Atheists negative effects on a culture is self evident, and playing out in real time.

>religion for practical reasons

this is a shitty argument parroted by common sense conservatives so they can continue to rub shoulders with Christians without offending them.

Japan is a country that has resisted Immigration and has lower violent crime rates than almost any religious nation.

They are non-religious.

China is very social conservative, very ethno-centric. They are non-religious.

Switzerland is almost as atheistic as england and france but is much better off from an immigration stand point.

ALL of the South American countries are heavily religious and by far they are all shit holes filled with crime, murder, rape ect... why is religion preventing it there? Why aren't the Japanese in hell when they don't have ancient Jewish scribbles telling them what to do?

This is what killed the UK. Atheism is nothing more than a Marxist canard to subvert Western morality. Look how well it worked in Europe.

Absolutely pathetic. Smash this faggot's teeth out and burn him alive on a pile of tires.

>huu huu huu the progress of society
Shut up faggot. Leftism is the cancer that destroys civilizations, stop buying into their memes.

no one who has watched them for couple months, believes/likes anything they say.

Ironically calling themselves red pilled.

This.

It refutes the Christweenie delusion that you need Christianity to not be degenerate. You also ignored my point about Latin America and Africa.

Yes it was. Theodora of Khazaria, wife of Justinian II. conspired against Christianity and eradicated reincarnation from it in year 692 at Quinisext Council.

Joining church rejecting Vatican won't change a shit.

Christianity is the biggest farce of our time and history.

I agree with you, I am just pointing out that some people don't agree that its possible for us and I can't say they are wrong.

I am an empiricist so I would have to see the results of an irreligious ethnocentric tribalist society of whites free from subversive influences from other religions to be 100%

I am pretty sure we are capable of it. But just as with libertarian, socialism, egalitarinism, ect its factual truth and logical rigor means nothing if its being used as a WEAPON to keep us fighting amongst ourselves and Jews win no matter the result.

So ancient wisdom is irrelevant because it's old? Does it stop being true because it's 2000 years old? lel

That makes no sense. If every person born had no parents, wondered on their own, and never learned anything, they too, would do what they want. And when you think about it, everyone has incentive to behave, that's why we have laws and rules in America, is to stop people from misbehaving. Half of the time, its not even the religious properties that stop people from doing bad things (such as in Christianity, people are taught that they are forgiven no matter what, besides like 1 unforgivable sin, so that could just cause people to still be like, "Whatever, I'm forgiven anyways"), its just the laws in the country that they are forced to abide by.

>mainstream feminism
Most mainstream atheists (no matter how blue pilled they are on other topics) are some of the most vocal anti feminists. "Atheism +" was strongly rejected by the vast majority of the atheist community and has been irrelevant for years now.

>wisdom

you've never read the bible