Why do we hate this guy again?

Why do we hate this guy again?

I don't think about him at all

because he's not funny

Duh. But that's only part of the problem. The major problem was that Trump is a populist who was telling the people that they were being lied to be corrupt fat cats who have hidden agendas and take kickbacks from corporations and foreign entities, and in response to this the DNC lied to the people and elected a corrupt fat cat with hidden agendas who takes kickbacks from corporations and foreign entities, all the while every week of the election more proof came out that the liar was a corrupt fat cat with hidden agendas who was taking kickbacks from corporations and foreign entities.

Literally couldn't have picked a worse candidate.

actually a good point though

We're already entering the acceptance phase.

THATS A MILDER VERSION OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED

CRYING WOLF IMPLIES THERE IS NO AGENDA TO THEIR HYPER LIBERAL BULLSHIT

FASCIST PROGRESSIVISM GOT SOUNDLY REJECTED TODAY AND THE REVERSAL TRUMP CAN DO WITH A FULLY REPUBLICAN HOUSE SENATE AND SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO MAKE LIBERALS WISH THEY NEVER SAID PEEP

Wow!

>guys let me be the voice of reason here: we got too butthurt over trivial things, but Trump is a le Nazi and we need as many retweets as we can

Pathetic

He may be an unfunny hillshill, but at least he gets it.

Too late to pray.

Could Bernie have won, Muff?

I reckon it was largely fear.
The media with their if it bleeds it leads mentality helped convince America to go to war.
Plus not only is Hillary another Clinton but she was a known entity in politics with her fucking over Haiti and the email scandals whereas Trump had no political skeletons in his closet.

He gave Americans probable cause to fear or hate Hillary and came up with a generation that has seen mass immigration, terror attacks and known greater poverty than ever

I once saw a talkshow with Seth MacFarlane talking about how Republicans 'always vote against their own interests', going on to talk about tax reform plans and income brackets.

It was inconceivable to Seth that someone might vote for any candidate other than the one who promises to give them, specificially, the most free money.

He doesn't know how the dems lost this election because he can't understand how anyone could want anything more than a few extra dollars in their paycheck.

It's as if the shit I took last night is any better than the one I took just now.

How big of a shit are we talking about here

>Trump
>threat to equality

How?

Oh, easily. I mean, even the very wise cannot see all ends but yeah.
He seems like a better person but potentially a worse president than Clinton. Democracy and socialism are oil and water. European style socialism "works" because of high taxation, and small countries with vast resources. It could only "work" in America if you subdue freedom. Communism only "works" if you don't question the leader. It doesn't sync with human nature. It doesn't sync with how humans organise relationships and the delegation of power. He doesn't have the power to enact real socialism, so the only socialism he could ever impose on America would be the equivalent of when Homer became the sanitation commissioner. It's a bunch of empty promises he can't keep because he doesn't have the money. He'd bankrupt the nation in his first term.

I wish someone could just tell me Trumps policies. This nigger got elected and I don't even know what he wants to do and how beyond building a wall and grabbing pussy.

Maybe this hive-mind of nonsense shouldn't be so interconnected as to feel like their in some kind of fatal danger when a candidate says "Yeah, we should deport those illegal Mexican immigrants, that's a problem."

You have every black, gay, female, whatever reacting as if Trump is coming after them.

>"Trump groped a woman!"
>[ignores the dozens of Bill Clinton rape accusations that Hilary got thrown out of court]

MAGA

the republicans voting for trump think he's going to eliminate their taxes

in uncertain times, the pendulum will swing to the right. it will come back again.

probably because he makes comments insulting minorities and his base is a bunch of fervent nationalists. gop also wants to end gay marriage inb4 >muh feelings

Vague things. The age of well reasoned policies winning elections is over. The left play cucked victims, the right prey on fear. What a time to live in.

(HE'S JUST GONNA ALIGN WITH THE CONSERVATIVE ESTABLISHMENT, APPOINT A TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN CABINET AND RUN THE COUNTRY LIKE MITT ROMNEY WOULD)

TRUMP WAS ONLY IN IT FOR THE EGO

NOW HES THE YUUUGEST #1 EVER

MISTURR PRESIDENT

single payer healthcare and free college could only work by suppressing freedom or in a tiny country? please elaborate my retarded friend

I somewhat agree.

But this line of argument eventually leads to people blaming everything on "the left" for not winning.

I have a hunch that no lynchings will happen and gays will continue to contract all the diseases they can

nah he's right. I was a really moderate dude before the second half of the obama administration but they wouldn't stop pushing me.

family guy hasnt been funny in 10 years.

i agree though, the left cries wolf at everything. they spew so much bullshit about being politically correct and how youre a racist piece of shit if you support the best interest of your country. i cant even take them seriously. i voted for obama twice and considered myself a leftist for 27 years but theyre a fucking joke now. i'm glad its happened though because i learned a lot about politics in the last few years

this is exactly what I'm saying. You don't get it. They didn't vote for Trump because they thought they had a better shot at free money from him than from Hill. They wanted to Make America Great Again.

Not everything comes down to money, and not understanding this is why the democrats lost. They couldn't stop thinking about money, but they were running against an actual billionaire.

>he makes comments insulting minorities
you mean illegal immigrants and terrorists?

It does come down to money, since Trump saw disaffected midwesterners who were losing jobs because of a move away from manufacturing and said "I'm going to bring your jobs back."

Doesn't matter that he has no way of doing that and is going to be fucking terrible for absolutely anyone not already in the top 1%. He appealed to them and got their vote.

He's totally right, and I'm saying this as a Trump supporter.

At least he acknowledges it.

He made a good post, but he's still a bleeding heart liberal retard that makes money off of 14 year olds thay are addicted to atheist edge.

>He's going to be terrible

Hasn't even been 5 hours yet. Wipe the fucking tears you whiny bitch

Seth might not be as dumb as I thought.

Nothing in europe works, the only reason why people manage to make a living is by dodging taxers, otherwise we'd all be pennyless and living in the street because most of your income goes into taxes
t. eurocuck

Joe Biden would have won.

Why did his son have to die?

ECB IS INTO NEGATIVE INTEREST RATES

THE EU IS RIDICULOUSLY FUCKED

You know that makes you no better than them?
This was like the biggest hypocrisy of the whole election that both sides couldn't wait to oppress the other for being oppressive

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Joe and Sanders would have been better. Hills and her DNC conspirators fucked us all.

He's going to impose term limits as well as limits on how soon you can go from public office to a lucrative position as a lobbyist. He's actually trying to do something about America's laughably corrupt system and anyone who just dismisses that because of identity politics horseshit is a fucking idiot.

>Liberals are massive racists because they use minorities as a weapon to call everyone else racist, while treating them like animals
>Conservatives point that out
>See you are both the same calling each other racists there's no difference xD
oldest and stupidest discussion in politics, the fact that it still comes up is proof of how fucking retarded humanity is

Are you honestly trying to argue that that's ended with this election? Good god that ended a long time ago, well reasoned policies winning elections is like something out of ancient history at this point, what in gods name are you smoking?

As if any of these libtards will listen to what he has to say. they don't realize that people got sick of relentlessly being told that they were racist and wrong for being white, it's their fault Trump got into office, now they have to deal with it for four years.

More accurately it could only work in a country that's having it's entire defense budget paid for by another much larger and more powerful country. Why do all the "muh europe" people always just overlook this? You really think they could afford all that free shit if they actually had to pay for their own national defense again? You don't think all that money they sink into social services came from somewhere else?

Fair enough but these kinds of accusations are hardly new and get thrown around every election. It's never stuck like this before.

What's worrisome is that the Democratic party was unable to win what should have been a gimme, and the Republican party won IN SPITE of itself. Despite it's best efforts to choose someone who couldn't win. Who the fuck is holding the reigns now? Demagogue populists that can hijack the political process are dangerous.

If I'm an optimist, I can say: Tyrants (in the classical Greek sense) are a powerful tool for breaking the back of the oligarchs. Only a singular leader with the people behind him can overcome the aristos.

If I'm a pessimist, I can say: Trump is our Cleon of Athens, he is the first of more demagogues and populists that will follow, who will encourage the worst parts of the people's nature to gain power, and through their incompetence or the incompetence of the electorate will choose policy that run us right onto the rocks. Just like Athens.

You seriously think that will pass in a red house and senate? What the hell are you smoking? Big Business is in control of the legislature now not Trump.

Enjoy the 4 years buddy

So no actual problems, just imagined ones. Okay.

Hey I was just trying to tell that person what one of Trump's policies was, I wasn't saying he was definitely gonna get it passed.

>You seriously think that will pass in a red house and senate?
If all those people just want to publicly admit to how corrupt they are then I guess they could oppose it, sure, doesn't really seem a winning strategy though long term.

>Big Business is in control of the legislature now not Trump.
Y'know they were the ones backing up Hillary right? If Big Business really did have as comprehensive control as you seem to think they do she'd be president-elect now, and yet she's not. Perhaps real life just isn't that simple.

>Big Business is in control of the legislature now not Trump.

You'd have to be one hell of a dumb or desperate sentimentalist to believe there was a difference.

>Demagogue populists that can hijack the political process are dangerous.
Oh no god forbid people who's power is actually based on appealing to the people have control, much better we let the bankers keep on running the show they've been doing such a fine job so far.

>people got sick of relentlessly being told that they were racist and wrong for being white

Watching you poor bastards try to look like normal members of a crowd's fucking embarrassing.

It's a roundabout way of saying they should have focused on stopping/framing/murdering Trump.

>idiots who are religiously anti-white keep insulting and irritating every second of every day for the past 4 years
>femnazis who are religiously anti-white male keep insulting and irritating every second of every day for the past 4 years
>white males being bashed and insulted every fucking day, like a tiger being constantly poked by a stick by some whiny child in a zoo

>gates get opened
>the tiger bites back

The Social Justice Evangelist crow brought it upon themselves.
If they were not so condescending, if they were not so self-righteously abhorrent, so filled with hate, so eager to insult,
maybe Trump wouldn't have happened.

Who knew that angering someone had consequences?

lol keep crying nerds Trump won

There's another one.

The people can and do make bad decisions. Athenian democracy destroyed itself because the people made poor choices, and their leaders became concerned only with pleasing the people. Giving them what the wanted so that they could have power.

That is precisely what a republic is designed to avoid. It's supposed to let the will of the people be expressed, but to have other checks so that the statesmen with experience and a clearer understanding of the big picture can make sound decisions that are best for the people, even if it's not what they think they want. It's one more check and balance in a system designed around them.

Don't be naive. Pure democracy is not always desirable. The people are a mob, and mobs can make terrible decisions sometimes.

fucking crow

fucking nailed it

The irony of bringing about what you fear most by being shrill and arrogant is not lost on me. There's just so much at stake in an election like this. I would have preferred they got their comeuppance some other way.

This. There's a reason why far left ideologies like Marxism/Communism try to be as inclusive as possible. You only win when you have the people on your side.

The new left has become like the old right, elitist, exclusive and inaccessible for the vast majority. Meanwhile the right has returned to its populist, working-class roots.

I get what you mean but you still sound like an absolute cuck in the current climate, the absolute last thing you need is less democracy. The system has been completely hijacked by lobbyists and as a result doesn't give a damn about the people's wishes at all, some kind of big push back towards that golden mean you're referring to is needed and it's not going to be a push away from democracy.

Yeah well maybe you should've thought of that before you decided being a massive bunch of assholes to everyone was the best way of spreading your message of love and tolerance.

Because he missed his plane that day and didn't go visit the twin towers like everyone else.

Now she's finished and with the party having been sent an unambiguous message of the type it can't afford to ignore I can't believe it'll be long until the game's ours to lose again. I'm pretty sure the Trump lemures know it too, which is why they come across so unconvincingly.

>being a massive bunch of assholes to everyone

hey, it worked for trump. seriously, that's a stupid generalization which speaks to nothing except your emotional needs

He's right desu

Yeah, like Finland.

We brought this on ourselves

>being this triggered
It's true though, that's what people mean when they talk about the "Social Justice Warriors": assholes. You let your movement get highjacked by these noisy assholes and never said shit about it, then complain when people judge the rest of you by their actions? The fact you did nothing about it shows that you approved of it on some level.

>a stupid generalization
Pretty rich coming from the people who accuse everyone who disagrees with them of being racist, sexist homohpobic nazis who wants to murder everyone. Go fuck yourself.

This. Everything he's saying they were unnecessarily outraged by are all things they're being unnecessarily outraged by right now. Trump is not Hitler and he won't round up LGBT Mexican cripples in death camps. The male puppet leader won America's Got Talent instead of the female puppet leader; the world isn't going to stop spinning because of it.

>REAL threat to equality
Nice try (((seth)))

That's some impressive savior complex.
I guess all females, blacks, latinos, muslims, jews, LGBTQ's, are incapable weak children who need the superior nanny skills and hands of this person in order to live and manage to walk through life.
Life for those collectives must be impossible without this person, right?

>being this triggered piss whine piss

Couldn't have put it better myself.

>That's some impressive savior complex.

Donald Trump is necessary to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

I agree, which is why I said the optimistic view is that this kind of leader elected in this way is the only way to break the back of the oligarchs.

Or else it might be the beginning of the end. It's impossible to say. I guess what it comes down to is, bad status quo, or uncertain shake-up that may be good, or may mean calamity. I guess it depends on how well you're doing. Politics may be fucked, but I've done well under this system. I'm not sure I want to see it all torn down, even if it is more ... just?

Idk. America has its problems but the alternatives are pretty much all worse. Somebody is going to be on top. The world will not be happier with China.

White people be tripping.

>CRYING WOLF IMPLIES THERE IS NO AGENDA TO THEIR HYPER LIBERAL BULLSHIT
How the fuck does that statement even make sense in your head? You know the literal boy who cried wolf had an agenda of his own, right?

I've been hoping for a new moderate right all these years, but now might be the time for a new moderate left a la Sam Harris and Mark Ruben

CRYING WOLF IMPLIES AN UNSOPHISTICATED CHILDLIKE WHINING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, NOT A CALCULATED CYNICAL PLOT TO PUSH PROGRESSIVISM AT ALL COSTS, WHICH IS WHAT LIBERAL FASCISM IS

Yeah, one potential positive outcome of this is the shattering of the two-party system. The politically acute are going to see this as a chance to form new power blocs. The Republicans won in spite of themselves, the Democrats lost what should have been a gimme. Both parties are broken in their own way.

>probably because he makes comments insulting minorities

never happened. just media spin and misrepresentations that gullible idiots like you and twitter sjws believe. you're literally dumber than the majority of americans, how does it feel?

A majority of one of the dumbest populations on earth were able to see through the bullshit, and you weren't. i'd kill myself if i was you, with your critical thinking skills there's just no hope

you're a burden with no upside to anyone

Sam is such a twat and sounds like a Jewish robot. If that is going to work they're going to need stronger leaders than him.

Pretty much.

>not being allowed to call people faggots is fascism
lol

Trump is very canny, and understands well (obviously) how to tell people what they want to hear.

Taking him at face value and thinking you know exactly what he has in mind or what he's going to do next is fucking folly. He's always been a wildcard, and now he's a wildcard with the Presidency and both houses of congress behind him.

If you genuinely believe campaign promises, I'm not sure there's help for you.

what are you talking about? his entire twitter feed over the last few years is nothing but petty insults and personal attacks against people. are you people incapable of telling the truth about anything?

That's right, faggot.

Fuck off idiot, I work four days a week in healthcare information with no training. I live in central London and pay taxes as well as paying off a student loan, I put away savings and I drink all the imported beer I want. Living in Europe is easy if you're not a fearful little cuck

>A majority of one of the dumbest populations on earth were able to see through the bullshit
middle american christians voted for the candidate that represented their socially conservative sensibilities. this happens in every election. are you 12?

NIGGER CUNT SPIC FAGGOT BITCH KIKE COCKSUCKER HEIL TRUMP FUCK PC

GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW NICE BUZZWORDS LIBTARDS THIS IS WHY YOU LOST YOU STUPID NIGGER FAGGOTS

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He's completely right though. But I'm enjoying this shitshow from Yurop so I don't really give a fuck.

Well yes.
In a liberal or democratic society, freedom of speech is defined as allowing any and all discussion to take place no matter the quality or alignment of the discussion and debate, with all opinions being allowed to be expressed.
If you say you hate niggers, fine. That's your right.
If you start killing niggers though or scamming them or physically disrupting their livelihood by bullying them, that's pretty much off to prison.
Regulation of action, not thought.

Any non-democratic, and non-liberal society however, will regulate thought and action altogether. Speaking is equaled with action, and when you regulate speech, you destroy any chance of democracy and elevation through debate, since you are cutting down debate. You are eliminating debate in favor of fascist extreme ideals.