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fuck off dazu

Why are you defending the people who want to "punish" Britain for brexit?

>Kuzukuzu
>British

I'm British in my heart

It's not punishing, you can't just leave without paying for the things you used.

It's like a bloke drinking 10 beers with you and saying: well I leave ,the bill not my responsibility anymore.

We don't want to punish Brits because we hate them, we want to punish them because we want to keep others from leaving. Brits knew that when they voted for Brexit.

UK was a net contributor to every single EU fund for literal decades, now you want them to pay even more billions for no reason.

look who is posting, the eternal KANGaroo fucker.

>a Dutchman accusing someone else of being a tightarse

Interesting

yo why do you have to be so mean? stop bullying

We already paid for everything and then some you dumb clognigger

jelly of our mosques, cunt?

>It's like a bloke drinking 10 beers with you and saying: well I leave ,the bill not my responsibility anymore.
What if he paid for 1 beer at a time?

Just let people leave when they want to. Fuck off.

Doesn't matter, you have to pay for the farming projects and administration and the parliamentary workers that have a contract.

We do pay what we owe the other member states, you didn't and now you have to pay in one go.

Theoretically, yes. But in practice no.

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gib abo

>VW

they deserve it and more tbqh

Gott strafe England

There's no "theoretically" you lying twat. We were by far the biggest net contributors to the EEC, ahead of even Italy and we've consistently been one of the largest net contributors to the EU budget right from the beginning in 1991. We'd likely still be the largest net contributor ahead of Germany without the rebate slightly easing the pain so go ahead and shove it up your rectum.

Fuck you.

FUCK GERMANY

Doesn't matter what you paid. Britain already signed up for some projects and received a lot of farming subsidies that were meant for products for the EU-market. Also a lot of people that were hired for the British EU parliamentary workers need to be paid off. We also have to move some EU buildings to mainland. And that costs a lot.

If you sign up for a phone subscription you can't just cancel it with the argument that you haven't used it yet. You have to pay it.

>farming subsidies that were meant for products for the EU-market.
They can still go to the EU, that however will be the last farming subsidies the UK is taking from EU.

EU refuses to acknowledge the act of god; 'force majeure'

Such an arrogant and insolent people, despite fucking shit up for the entire continent every time they get the chance. Fucking hate germs.

kek
i wouldnt be surprised if all the good ones were driven off from the hate
if there's any good ones left they're prob on /deutsch/ or whatever the fuck their general is called or on Sup Forums

Not if Britain leaves the EU single market. And there is no difference in paying in Euros or paying in goods. It's still the same amount of worth.

>implying the average brit knows anything when voting

>i wouldnt be surprised if all the good ones were driven off from the hate
driven off from the hate? every single fucking alt right numale on this shitty board adores germany for some reason
objectively countries like america, poland, romania and even britain get way more hate than them

you're either delusional or a german tourist/proxy

>Not if Britain leaves the EU single market.
The EU (Germany) is not bargaining in good faith.

They know the remaining contracts and trades can still proceed but EU (Germany) is slowing and exacerbating and endangering the process.

That's not the point, the EU spends money 4 years in advance. That's why Britain has to pay membership for 2019 till 2023. And that is 85-113billion euros.
And most of that money will go to British farming subsidies either way.

hello

>The EU (Germany) is not bargaining in good faith.
>That's not the point
>farming subsidies
If they don't want farming subsidies after 2020 or whatever EU can't force them.

Especially when you consider there are parts of EU not in danger, viable replacement options. Thats what I mean by not bargaining in good faith.

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Protip: The UK will remain a part of the European Free Trade Zone and stay connected to the EU and its silly programs simply because the UK, Germany and France would lose a lot of money otherwise.

Brit politicians will tell their people they showed the bureaucrats in Brussels and EU politicians will tell their people they showed those unruly islanders. In reality not much will change.

They don't have a choice, they already signed agreements for it.

>another Anglo calling for German extermination
Who are the real Nazis?! Huh?!

>They don't have a choice, they already signed agreements for it.
English, French all European common law has ways and means for them to exit contracts.

Thats why EU is stalling, this could be done sooner rather than later.

You can't exit that agreement, the farmers receive the subsidies of 2023 in 2019.

German lapdog. Your grandfather would should himself if he could see what you're doing.
Your entire country is one big, degenerated shithole.

>You can't exit that agreement, the farmers receive the subsidies of 2023 in 2019.
Then in 2024 they are done.

Its not that far and EU wants to extend UK's obligations, when they don't want to to business anymore. Its really that simple.

You can't receive things and not pay for it. Maybe it's different because you all have criminal genes in your desert island.

Yes, that's why they need to pay untill 2023. That's the so called """fine""". But it's just money that's already spent on the UK in advance.

>You can't receive things and not pay for it.
>But you can give things without payment first.
>EU Economics

That's what credit is all about, user

>That's what credit is all about
You can cancel an order from Amazon at any point.

Of course Amazon doesnt give you the product up front and then hold you hostage when you ask them to conduct normal business tactics.

It's because money is worth more now than over 4 years. By spending it in advance the EU can spend more money than it actually receives by loaning it to itself.

>By spending it in advance the EU can spend more money than it actually receives by loaning it to itself.
>Spend all my money plus more than I have now... Because in my future it will be worth shit.
>EU Economics

Don't start acting stupid because you forgot that credits where a thing in modern economics

Your government does it all the time. But i a single government can't loan from itself and a collective of governments can.

>because you forgot that credits where a thing
EU forgot that countries were still a thing and they can farm from any of their other wide variety of domains.

It's not about the fucking farmland. It's because the EU already invested in that fucking farmland in advance.

Are you dumb or blind?
Germany is one of the most hated cunts on 4chinz. Even Sup Forums hates it by now.

No, you just have a cognitive bias, since threads about Germany make you personally mad and you remember them.
From an objective viewer's perspective, I can tell you that Germany doesn't get a FRACTION of the hate some other countries on here get. Fuck off.

>the EU already invested in that fucking farmland in advance.
There are a variety of options for EU to move to. They just aren't moving in any direction. Just complaining.

Germans ruined Europe.

*Knock Knock*

That has nothing to do with it.

The EU gave the UK farming subsidies 4 years in advance so the UK has to pay those back in a single go or keep paying for 4 years without getting any farming subsidies.

How does money transfer between countries work anyway? Back in the day they would just send a few chests full of gold, but I imagine that's not how things are done anymore.

Digitally, some blokes just put numbers in a computer and another bloke receives those numbers and can send it to any bloke they want.

>The EU gave the UK farming subsidies 4 years in advance
So you get those 4 years of business. EU doesn't want to stop investing, UK doesnt want EU futures anymore.

Thanks.

There aren't any 4 years of business, the money is already used. Once they leave there is only a bill left with roughly 100billion euros on it.

Other countries don't get 10 new le funny meme edit pics per week to mock them, get called out for literally everything or get several country extermination and mass genocide threats from literally everyone.
The only ones that have it worse in that way are USA, Albanians and Turkey.

The Amazon has millions of consumers anonymous to each other worldwide, any losses from cancelling preorders is mitigated by the majority of others who don't do it. It's different from this select group of countries where the UK was a major power in, this kind of action can have dire consequences for the block. Don't play dumb and blame the EU for playing their hand right in this situation, I doubt the UK would've done anything different if the situation was reverted between them and Germany.

At least we have the decency to pretend we're still friends. If Brits were in our position they'd turn up their propaganda machine again and hang Krauts in the streets.

>Once they leave there is only a bill left with roughly 100billion euros on it.
So the EU is refusing to take the products its invested in to spite itself.

Again, EU is refusing service. Not the UK. The UK is asking for a new round of terms, for future service.

>this kind of action can have dire consequences for the block. Don't play dumb and blame
Like EU refusing servicing and not bargaining in good faith?

Any clear minded person can see whats happened.

Mhm, you have clearly never seen le funny paint pictures about the Brits, Poles, France and Serbia.
Oh wait, you did, you just don't want to acknowledge them because you're such a poor victim and everybody hates you :(

By the way, thanks for proving my point with the autism by taking "genocide" posts seriously. You're a special brand of stupid.

No we invested in products with money that the UK was supposed to pay in 2023. The UK already sold those products.

>we want to punish them because we want to keep others from leaving.

>UK was supposed to pay in 2023
But the EU wont even accept or hear and agreement to the solution. Of which could include that.

You know what? I would try to defend my point but I can't because I have no arguments. You win.
Thanks for clearing my worldview a bit.

"Krikey I found a wild animal *bang bang bang* well that's the last intelligence to pollute our great land."

If you just don't pay your credit card bill because you don't have the money or whatever, would you expect them to come to you and "bargain in good faith" while not blocking you from buying shit with it? Why would any unilateral decision taken by a country in a multilateral agreement against said multilateral agreement have no repercussions? This is basic diplomacy and geopolitics.

There is nothing wrong with VW's

There is no agreement to make.

The EU gave the UK farmers roughly 100billion euros.

The Farmers made products with that money.

The UK sold those products.

And 4 years later the UK was supposed to pay back the 100 billion euros.

But since the UK won't be in the EU in 2023 they have pay for it before they leave.

>your credit card bill
My credit card company never refuses money from me. Even when I'm closing my account.

>The UK sold those products.
>And 4 years later the UK was supposed to pay back the 100 billion euros.
So European socialist economics are have literally crippled it.

What is the UK paying back? EU invested in farmers, farmers brought your products to market. The deal is done.

They don't, but they still charge you for what you owe them. It's not so easy to close your account if you don't pay what they think they should get from you.

Thanks for ignoring the actual argument btw.

You have no idea how EU membership works, stop being the typical American and don't talk about things you have no idea about.

They didn't bring any fucking products dipshit, they sold the products.

The UK bought products with money from the EU.

Then sold the products to the EU.

And 4 years later they have to pay back the money with which they bought the products.

>leasing is socialism
Why do I even bother replying to Americans

>They don't, but they still charge you for what you owe them
Except the UK doesn't owe anything.

>The UK bought products with money from the EU.
>Then sold the products to the EU.
>And 4 years later they have to pay back the money with which they bought the products.
You're confusing subsidies with rebates. EU made investments and got commerce. Any clear minded person can see that.

>You have no idea how EU membership works
It doesn't, that why Germany isn't negotiating in good faith.

They didn't fucking build farms. Farming subsidies don't actually go to a farm. Farming subsidies make products cheaper.

A farmer makes 100 apples which cost him €200 to make.

The EU then gives the farmer €100.

The farmer then sells the apples for €100.

And four years later the UK gives the EU €100

>The EU then gives the farmer €100.
>And four years later the UK gives the EU €100
In the real world thats called duress.

No it's a fucking farming subsidie.

>Take this 100 euroskelels
>TAKE IT OR DIE
>Now... Pay me back in 4 years.

The Dutch user clearly won, no need to keep embarassing yourself to save face, just walk out and pretend this discussion never happened.

All countries do it. How do you think you are able to buy products with "made in America" on it? If you actually paid for the actual price it would be trice as expensive.

But the advantage of the EU giving out the farming subsidie is that you can loan from your future self instead of a different country. Because the EU has no need to make a profit.

>The Dutch user clearly won
>you can loan from your future self instead of a different country.
Its clear you can't loan to yourself with a time machine, thats why EU is so desperate.

Shitty economics catching up.

But you can loan from the EU. That's one of the reasons why countries became part of the EU. The EU makes it possible to loan from yourself.

>The EU makes it possible to loan from yourself.
But it really didnt. That was a fantasy.

It's very much in the UK's interest to keep its promises it has already made, payments it has already agreed to and accords it has signed.

Considering that they are about to enter a stage where they have to negociated a whole bunch of new trade agreements, any sign of the UK being not a trustworthy contractural partner would damage their international reputation and weaken their negociating power in the future.

It's not a fucking fantasy. Why else did you think countries are willing to pay billions of euros per year.

I give you a hint it's not because they want to form a stupid united bloc.

It's just that stupid populist parties don't know how the fucking EU works. We aren't in it because we want to help each others. We are in it to profit from it.

>any sign of the UK being not a trustworthy contractural partner would damage their international reputation and weaken their negociating power in the future
Germany has already done that to itself, UK separate from EU is giving it more credibility worldwide.

>We aren't in it because we want to help each others. We are in it to profit from it.
>Profiting off a loan from yourself to yourself
At best you remain as wealthy as you started from your first loan.

Thats why EU is stagnate, no risk no rewards.

>Germany has already done that to itself, UK
Done what to whom?

>UK separate from EU is giving it more credibility worldwide.
Pretty much any respectable world leader from Japan to the US either directly or indirectly voiced their opposition to Brexit.

The UK doesn't even have a functional government right now, Belgium-style, and it's considered to be the laughingstock of the whole continent. Thanks to this Brexit mess the polling number of our local eurosceptic party was cut in half.

No, the EU didn't stagnate. During the economic crisis we even had an economic growth of royghly 3%.

Thanks to the EU we can get rewards with no risks. Because the EU loans you money from your future self. And I don't know if you have some thinking cells in that skull of you but loaning from yourself doesn't cost anything.

The way you profit from it is because money is worth more now then in the future. That's the profit.