People should do what they want as long as they don't directly harm anybody It's the current year

>people should do what they want as long as they don't directly harm anybody It's the current year

>user, you should stop smoking, it's bad for you.

Why are libshits such hypocrites regarding tobacco?

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you're a drain on the medical system, your breath and clothes stink like shit and you look old and disgusting much younger.

They're literally hypocritics on everything

and i'm a fashy goy

What if they don't want to make it illegal, they just don't want you to get cancer because they care about you?

That's what liberals do all the time, they love to contradict themselves.

nice digits

>saving thumbnails
You DESERVE to get cancer.

>should

Uh... Also

>liberals

>Libertarians

We should really just glass your shitty island already and use it as a resort.

Shut the fuck up you crooked toothed mohammad you lost all rights to have an opinion
choke on a fucking willy you inbred billy

>LOOK AT ME I'M A FUCKING KEKOLD HOLY SHIT

o i am laffing

That is the least 1776 post you could have made while being on topic.

youre inconsiderate slaves that make me breathe in your poison

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>not supporting the tobacco industry

>drain on the medical system

If anything, people who smoke are good for the health service because they die quicker you absolute mong.

woops wrong one maybe this one is a thumbnail

Then what the fucks happen with my body my choice? You know, that ideology shouldn't only be applied to abortions. Speaking of that, I remember that during Hurricane Sandy a man that didn't wanted to help a mother rescue her kid because he didn't wanted any harm to his body was shamed and called a racist by liberals just by wanting to ta care of himself.

Enjoy your cancer

That's some backwards logic there bud.

A suggestion that would be overall beneficial for your well-being is much different from stopping you from doing what you want.

Should =/= must you fucking faggot.
You can hold someone is free to do something while holding that something in poor regard.
Holy shit people are stupid.

What if the dramatic rise in cancer-rates over the past century haven't been tobacco-related at all, especially since smoking has only gone down in popularity as time has gone on?
That said, emphysema and probably stuff like high blood pressure leading to strokes are definitely legit risks, whichever the case for cancer.

Fucking Loizano, the majority of Sup Forums is pro-choiche dumbass

>He says whilst recovering from his fourth gastric band operation and munching down a big mac

Fuck off, without the VAT and the other taxes imposed on cigarettes the NHS would collapse and you my darling wouldn't be able to get your state funded mobility scooter/gastric bands.

Smoking generates more than it costs in treatments.

Also your mobility scooter lets off fumes I don't want to breathe in, your fat cells let off fumes I don't want to breathe in either.

So the next time you're on the operating table to have you gastric band tightened, I hope you fucking die.

Cunt.

If I can smell your smoke then you are exposing me to your smoke against my will.

Everyone knows only retards smoke.

>I'm going to give myself an addiction to this harmful substance because I think it's cool hurr durr

I can smell the shit stains on your trousers you fat cunt, that is against my will.

Kill yourself.

How about you keep your opinion to yourself libshit. If I suggested any woman she should not have an abortion you libshits will say that I want to control her body.

I smoke , everyone who doesn't smoke hate it , everyone who does smoke doesn't care.


Who cares

>muh cool maymay
maybe in the 1950's.

Not today, also since when did America start becoming the land of wanting to ban and England being the voice of wanting personal freedoms and a market to generate profit?

Bizarro day? What happened America? Obama's dick drown you in Kenyan cum?

If I can hear your voice then you are exposing me to sounds you admit against my will.

If I can see your face then you're exposing me to your ugly mug against my will.

McFucking kill yourself.

Except that liberals smoke like chinese town.

>mfw he probably drives a large Ameritruck car and belts out more fumes in a single hour than 100 smokers do in a year

lel.

>If I can smell your body odor , you're exposing me to your body odor against my will.

I'm a hyper-conservative. Abortion is murder. Smoking is a stupid decision but unless you're literally exhaling into other people's faces you aren't hurting anyone.
There is a difference between actions which fuck over other people and actions which only fuck over yourself.

Who says I wanted to ban it?

I think it's hilarious that a company can sell a box of poison with warning labels all over it.

Makes walking down the street a fucking comedy show. All these white trash retards killing themselves slowly, and paying to do it.

But I didn't said otherwise hipster rio piedras fag, I said if you think you don't have the right to tell people to stop doing something that only involves his/her/xir/whatever body, then you don't have the right to call out people for anything because tv people told your sheep brain it is bad.

Do you know how high the taxes are on cigarettes?
I'm paying enough to have a heart attack every other week fuck you

>What are externalities?

Edgy. BO and offensive noises aren't going to harm you though, pussy.

And people who don't smoke are going to die anyway and burden the health system, smokers just die younger. Smokers subsidise non-smokers' health treatment, they should fucking thank us

Car fumes do more damage to the human lungs than second hand smoke does.

Especially if you live in a city.

Shall we call for a ban on cars? Anti smokers keep silent about that, probably because most of them drive and can't see their own hypocrisy.

They just want to ban one of the very few personal pleasures and vices we have left.

And say cigarettes were banned? They'll always be a demand, it will just create a black market and the government will lose an incredible amount of revenue.

Anti smokers need to shove a big mac in it and shut the fuck up.

(not you btw, I agree with you).

Do you guys have anti-tobacco ads over there? We've had them for a long time, but the past ten years or so has seen a sharp uptick in their tone, doing everything short of calling you a pedophile if you smoke. I assume a decade and a half of these sorts of industry-targeting attack ads probably has something to do with the change in attitude.
Still, don't really miss smoking sections in restaurants or bars, don't mind going outside unless it's deep winter.

Fuck pack ciggs m8, roll your own. I pay like $3.50 for a few day's worth, not the $7-$9 I see some people pay.

>hyper-conservative
>think its OK to for people to fuck over themselves

pick one, ladafam

This, I heard the taxes on a pack in the UK is like 15 bucks, while in america youll be hard pressed to find one over 3 bucks, with most under a dollar
Your Govt is bringing in major bank on that

Anti smoking ads don't work, they never have and never will.

If a smoker wants to smoke, they will smoke, regardless. Just like if a drug addict wants to do drugs, they will do it.

Your fecal particles in the atmosphere are harming me though.

Kill yourself.

>White trash
Hi nigger filth, I'm glad you niggers shoot and stab each other over trivial things, keep it up. Saves whitey a job.

Neither is the smell of smoke on someone after they smoke

being modest IS beneficial for your overall well-being

Then neither is cigarette smoke that disperses in open air within seconds, dipshit.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44322/

It's true though, there's a report out that shows smoking generates more money for the NHS than it costs in terms of treating smoking related illnesses like COPD, Lung cancer ETC ETC ETC.

Obesity is costing the NHS more than anything, along with diabetes. Yet the fatties that call for smoking bans won't put down that third packet of custard creams.

> Shall we call for a ban on cars?

Are you forgetting that libtarded socialist fascists are praying for self-driving electric cars to show up on their doorsteps tomorrow?

Brake pad dust is fucking horrific for people. Nobody gives a flyyyyyyying fuck about it.

>you should stop smoking

Well you should. You're not being forced to. You just should.

So, gays are more likely to have HIV but I bet you don't tell them to stop being fags because of all the burden it can put on the health system. Not to mention fast food doesn't get taxed and all the welfare for immigrants.

It's just about the erosion of things people take pleasure in.

Soon we'll end up like demolition man were sex is banned.

People are far too reactionary and dimwitted to come up with any solution more complicated than "ban it and use violence against people who violate the ban". If they don't like something and don't value it, that's what they'll do. The reasoning they employ in justifying it is never consistent - it's always an instrumental farce in trying to convince other retards on the immediate issue that those retards should go along with what they want to do.

To add, the prohibition of alcohol had to be repealed because it led to an increase in crime, smuggling and just flat out didn't work.

The war on drugs has wasted resources that could be diverted to better things.

Anti smoking? Literally cutting off one of the biggest cash cows in society?

Statist pieces of shit really are the most retarded fuck faced, hypocritical piles of congealed cunt jelly to ever curse this planet.

I was unaware freedom from people fucking around in your life when you haven't done shit to them was unconservative. And here I thought conservatism represented an emphasis on government that didn't fuck with you.
You have enlightened me with your intelligence, Paco.

literally noone is smoking anymore, kids these days all vaping or do cocaine

This. Retirement benefits are a huge drain on the young.

>you shouldn't have an abortion
>you shouldn't be gay
>you shouldn't fuck niggers
>you shouldn't have tattoos

I bet you would get mad if I said some of these to anybody you fucking libshit.

>kids are all doing cocaine
Germany you have problems.

Indeed, I agree with you.

Meanwhile those same people enforcing such a trivial ban will ignore ficki ficki or mass rapes.

Because it's easy to target someone for smoking a cigarette, easier to target someone snorting a line of coke than it is to protect 1400 white girls being raped, beaten and threatened.

Fucking statists in this country and indeed the world really do need to sort themselves out and their priorities.

Absolute fucking retards.

>Anti smoking ads don't work
Plenty of people growing up have had their thinking in regards to tobacco altered from the start by such ads, I wouldn't write off the correlation between them and the decrease in smoking's popularity. On the other hand, the sudden explosion of the cancerous vape culture appears indicative of a generation who want to do the cool thing without quite stepping over the edge, probably people who would've smoked had the culture they grew up in not cast it as satan-incarnate.

I think people should be allowed to smoke, but let's not pretend that second-hand smoke isn't bad for people. We have city ordinances around here that dictate that nobody shall smoke within 25 feet of an entrance to a business, unless otherwise permitted. Seems reasonable.

>Drain on the medical system

The tax revenue on tobacco is FAR more than what it costs the NHS m8.

>Just le roll your own

I pay 80 dollars a week for a pack of 50g of the cheapest baccy

>smoking cigs like a girl/faggot
>not pipe smoking like a real man

Maybe he doesn't think it that way. I have met a lot of libshits that think every drug but tobacco even the synthetic ones, are safe.

Smokers are drug-addicts who waste their money on looking like a gigantic tool, but if that's how they want to fuck themselves up then so be it.

>tfw my small midwestern town has had 3 methlab busts and 2 dumpsites found so far this year
>tfw heroin has become part of the background poverty and normalized where previously demonized

Smokers will smoke, regardless.

I've seen the ads myself and I smoke, doesn't bother me one bit. I will carry on smoking and working.

A relative of mine is a non smoker, doesn't care and has actually admitted that the ban on smoking in pubs has caused problems, it's led to a decline in people using pubs, it's unsafe because you cannot take your drink out to the smoking area.

etc.

But to address you personally, I find your entire doctrine and posts offensive, you need to be banned right NOW!

Yeah. "Safe".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalism

Here you go Tyrone, it's wikipedia so it should be comprehensible even for an American. If you call yourself hyper-conservative it means you believe in it.

I'm from a small midwestern town too, but the anti-degeneracy shaming is still strong here.

Yup.

And cars are allowed to freely drive past said businesses right?

Cars let out oxides of nitrogen, carbon monoxide etc.

Far far more deadly than second hand smoke, at least with second hand smoke you can ask the smoker to move away, or enforce said smoking areas in places.

You cannot do this with cars, and cars belt out fumes on a scale most people can't actually comprehend.

Whilst I am in agreement that second hand smoke isn't nice and can be harmful, I'm saying in the grand scheme of pollutants? It's nothing.

But potheads told me telling people to stop using something doesn't work.

Can't you get it from duty free?

A pack of cigarettes is about £10 here so I order mine online from websites that sell cartons working out at £3 a pack

>smoking
>bad
>drain on the medical system

>female obesity
>good
>healthy at any size

Do you drink tea? Coffee? Coke? Do you eat junk food?

Why don't you tell us your vice and how much your vice costs the NHS and how much you've contributed in tax toward the NHS.

Come let's see your hypocrisy in front of the crowd. Out with it all.

Limit on duty free here which is retarded.

Canary islands is given special treatment, you can only bring back 200 cigarettes or 500g tobacco.

Whilst other EU members you can bring back 1000 cigarettes or 1500g of tobacco.

Because Canaries are the cheapest.

because the people saying the first thing aren't the same people saying the second thing

Conservatism =/= your authoritarian dumbfuckery.
Someone can have conservative values and not want to use *violent force* to coerce other people into accepting them. If you're a drug addict I'm going to shame you and lecture you if I want you to change - I'm not going to beat you up and throw you in a cell/shoot you.

Weed is literally 20x as carcinogenic as cigarettes, several times more CO and tar in a joint compared to a cigarette yet libshits think weed should be given to us by the govt for free and cigarettes banned

>you will never smoke a perfectly preserved sixty five year old pack of Chesterfields

youtube.com/watch?v=ZSgfpTZEgGU

>Smokers will smoke, regardless
No doubt, myself included, I'm just speaking about the long-term health of the industry, if young people are brought up thinking that not only is smoking not cool but it is also stupid, they're going to be less likely to try out of curiosity one day. Granted, a certain percentage of people always will, the kind who'll do something you dare them to or goes against other's judgement out of spite, but that segment of young people can only account for so much.

The old folks still do, though most are begrudgingly silent as they watch children and grandchildren fall prey to that sort of poison.
Poverty makes people give up in the worst ways, offering an easy avenue of thinking that leads to blissing out with a needle stuck in one arm or a sizzling pipe burning fingertips that can't feel the scald.

>you're a drain on the medical system

This is why national healthcare is a fucking scam. It can be used for population control on the basis of certain activities "draining" the public coffers.

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Plenty of duty free online sites you can order from, they resend them for free if customs intercept the package too

>Weed is literally 20x as carcinogenic as cigarettes

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Holy shit, all the denial in response to this completely correct post is hilarious. I hope you fools aren't the same shitters who whine about weed and alcohol.

No one is pushing the message that smoking is cool, in fact most smokers will tell others, don't take it up, don't start it when asked about it.

So this myth of "le smoke smoke is le cool" is from 1950's and 1980's American adverts promoting cigarettes.

No one thinks they're cool, children are retards and if they smoke it's not because they think it's cool, it's most likely due to a parent smoking and them taking it up.

Are you sure? I am not saying all liberals, using the american definition of the word, are like that, but my personal experience in college and in the media is that there is a lot of people that thinks this way.

>Drug addiction isn't degenerate because people drink TEA you guys!
You know I once saw someone scuttling along the pavement outside a pub, looking for stomped out fag ends to get at what little tobacco was left in them.

But I mean I've eaten a burger, so I guess I can't judge :^)

Interesting, I usually only get duty free when going on holiday/coming back and have to scan boarding pass in at airport.

Do not respond to it, just don't.

This.

I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell at all, but I won't accept this bullshit quiet. All that holds it together is secondhand smoking, and it's ALSO bullshit. If you guys wanna have a laugh, look for the passive smoking researches, not even on paper they can make that nonsense look good.

I'll only vaguely accept this cig "oppression" the day I see fat fucks dying in the back of a McDonald's lunchbox.

Yeah, it's mostly in very small poverty-ridden clicks of people where the drugs pop up.
But those people are few and far between around here, and they mostly stick to themselves. Dealing with those people is exhausting - they tend to be petty, overly dramatic, unappreciative, and generally just unpleasant. There are some who break that stereotype, but they're few and far between.

nice artefacting shitlord

Libshit detected

I've also seen that, they tend to be homeless people that will ask for change and drink cans of super tenants.

Not my problem.

I've seen fatties scoffing down burgers, spitting out chunks of the bun, lecturing others on how bad smoking is, whilst their gut expands and moves the table toward me.

What do you honestly think costs the NHS more?

Fatties or smokers?