Can someone explain this please?

Can someone explain this please?

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Well, before 1934 it was possible to order that gun by mail. Despite this fact, there were no school shootings.

Well for one, kids weren’t being constantly told they are oppressed by an economic system or some sort of boogey man, thats for sure

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But we are being told access to firearms is the direct cause of mass shootings today

Im curious how much that would cost and if it would be affordable to your average crazy kid. Also consider that back then people would have just locked up their mentally ill family members to badically be tortures and die so of course there were less incidents.

the cia hadnt invented mental illness

Why do people hear 'high power rifles are an enabler of the frequent mass killings in the United States and there is no justification for their being in so many citizens' hands' and confuse it with 'guns themselves cause these crimes'?

But not sole cause, you massive fucking retard. No one is saying that.

HARDLY ANY BLACKS OR OTHER BROWNS SO PURE WHITE SOCIEITY IS GOOD

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>No child could afford a gun like that in 1934
>No Walmart in 1934

Prior to 1934, even prior to about 2000, people who felt victimized took their anger out on that individual whom they felt victimized by. Today they try to take their anger out on the system. As if the system is responsible for not protecting them from whatever abuse they felt. Precedents have now been set that cannot be removed. As this doesn't happen much outside of America, it's clear this is an American cultural issue. It's not a gun availability issue nor is it an individual insanity issue.

Err.. the gun in the OP’s picture is a belt feed light machine gun. It can fire hundreds of more rounds per second than an armalite 15 which is a semi-automatic rifle.

That gun probably weighs 45 pounds, that's why.

Also, late capitalist alienation and neoliberalism had,'t set in.

Then why is the sole solution being pushed a restriction on gun avialability genius?

The welfare state didn't exist either and single mothers were essentially not a thing. Just look how violent black males have become in the absense of black fathers. 28/29 of the most recent mass shooters were not raised with the biological father in the house. Their mother neglects them, the state intervenes and now they put them on brain altering pharmaceuticals.

Guns have been with our nation from the very beginning, but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon.

What, 24/7 access to a wider range of food, that the richest of rich people, a hundred years ago, couldn’t have dreamt of in a fevered dream, someone how alienating to kids is it?

And? How does that contradict what I said?

We don't think either class of weapon should be in civilian hands. That's a consistent position. Consistent with itself, with common sense, and with the international experience.

1) It's not
2) Even if it were, that's still consistent

One doesn't need to remove all causes to make a massive impact on the problems caused, as the international experience has proved.

How is it possible you’re so incredibly stupid as to think

1. AR-15’s are “high powered rifles”
And 2. A light machine gun is essentially the same in potential to cause harm as a semi-automatic sport rifle.

>Guns have been with our nation from the very beginning, but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon.
It's kind of fascinating how these phenomenon just sort of happen. Think about cutting. People have been self-harming for centuries but it was never a "thing". Thirty years ago, there might have been one girl in high school who did it, and everybody knew about it, but it was a rare exception not the rule. Suddenly it's a thing to do now. It's not just about getting attention either, there's something more to the phenomenon. Not that I give a fuck about them individually, but how does this happen culturally?

>As if the system is responsible for not protecting them from whatever abuse they felt.

It kinda is. US has no healthcare, including mental healthcare, so whatever happened to your body is your fucking problem, and you gotta pay out the ass to fix it, 'cause those insurance companies need them big $$$. Also, no unions, no paid leave, shitty wages,

The individualization of responsibility, making everyone individually accountable, replaced collective welfare as a concept. And when the world buts all the responsibility on "YOU" instead of "US", people fucking crack. It's torture to live like that, feeling like it's all your fault for everything.

Yea, though I say to you, man cannot live by bread alone.

Personally I think a lot of it has to do with the popularity that these fucks get from committing the shootings.

Since Columbine it seems half if not more of the shooters become super famous for a few months and in this day and age become the reason for new laws/and even the president talking about them in length.

Seems to me that most of these guys are on a ego trip while they do these mass shootings too because most of the kids look like they regret their actions once their in custody.

BTW your question OP is retarded
>Been to a private gun collection
>OP pic seems to be mini battling gun
>If so it fires 22LR, stationary, and weighs a fuckton for what it is
>Only a couple feet long and a foot high
>Imagine some kid setting this up on a teacher's desk for show and tell

Nowhere have I questioned your consistency. Secondly, this is lazy logic,

You could have a generational issue with a variety of psychological issues like bullying, self-esteem, acceptance etc, that could need addressing, and has far more wider reaching benefits of addressing, and your logic is

“Lol do what others did, should be ok.”

Typical moron who shouldnt be able to vote gold fish memory and band-aid over bullet wound solutions fix everything

It happens in communistic states where there isn't an otherwise sense of impending doom but the sample for that situation is very small.

>wholefoods
>costco
>taco bell
>mc donalds
>subway
>burger king
>bbq resturants

>bread alone

>45 pounds is a lot

> lazy logic

Not as lazy as simply accepting the mass killing of your young.

Number of kids who could afford a mail order machine gun in 1934: 0

Number of kids that could conceal a TRIPOD MOUNTED BELT FED MACHINE GUN in their schoolbag: 0

Number of OPs who will have sex tonight: 0

It is for soyboys

Buy a dictionary before calling people stupid.

>45 pounds, that's why.
Starting in the 1920s they were selling Thompson Submachine guns via mail as well.
While you're at it, why not buy a 20mm semi-auto anti-tank rifle + 50rounds of ammunition for under $200?

The world was more right leaning, more religion, less SJW's, and less liberalism. These are all facts. Take it from a 68 year old man watching this all unfold, I remember jim crow laws and all that shit.You young kids do not understand how the world works. There is no such thing as equality. There has to be someone who gets shit on. Sadly the blacks learned this fact and are slowly rising to power via victim card and race card. You white people are unknowingly going to trade in your power, presence, privilege, pride, and stature so the blacks get their time to shine. Once they fuck everything up the Asians will swoop in and rule everything.

I know it sounds farfetched and crazy, but throughout history someone had to be fucked over for someone else to rise to power. There is no such thing as equality. There has to be a bottom of society, a laborer, a pillar.

You guys are going to tolerate tolerate tolerate until intolerance wins and you white kids are on the bottom. I'm sure some of you fetishists who enjoy their women getting black dick will rejoice being bred out of existence, but the rest of you will hate being on the shit end of this stick that's coming. I promise.

>accepting
>wanting to remove schools as literally being fish in a barrel to crazies

>accepting


You’re the one who wants kids lives to depend on 10 minute police response times.

They had schools in or Befor 1934. I think school became a think in the 1960

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Considering the military made a robotic device (third arm technology) to carry guns weighing up that range from regular rifles all the way up to 27 pounds or so, M249s, I'd say 45 pounds is significant.

Guess at 1934 blacks were still fucked with Jim Crow illegal immigrants were welcomed and people can buy things with a dollar

>but those digits
I do suppose that's true. There's legitimate arguments for Capitalism vs Communism. And for personal accountability vs. as someone once said "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members", but imo there's probably some sweet spot in the middle. When it comes to shooting random innocent people, there's something very very wrong there that goes beyond personal accountability. Anger has become an accepted part of our culture, and violence has become part of the norm. To me, that's what's really fucked up.

No, I'm the one who wants to see more countries counting the decades since their last school shoutings. Like mine.

For a weedy sixteen year old autistic school shooter type, yeah, it fuckin is.

Now, if I am so stupid, why did you just make your statement and nothing else?

I mean, strange, seeing as you’re so incredibly intelligent, it would have been easily for you to concisely rebute my point, but instead you’re not doing any of the things that would suggest you’re even remotely capable of a intelligent respone at all.

How interesting.

Shootings, I mean

>buying into NRA propaganda
I never understood why amerifatties keep letting their population be fucked and raped by rich guys.

Freedom I guess

Clearly you don't remember Al Capone

underrated post

Let me guess, your elections don’t matter and politicians do whatever they like to your wallet and you just accept it as “the way things are”.

Kek. Enjoy that oilgarchy faggot. Nothing you can do about it but keep paying rich politicians to maybe fund police forces enough to maybe save your life. Lmao

If you don't know the definition of the word rifle, I can't help you.

naptime

Yes.

Your trying carrying that shit effectively across town to shoot up a school

>he thinks the dollar was a worthless in the 1930’s as it is today

Adorable

> oilgarchy faggot

If you haven’t been within 5 miles of a gun in your entire life, its time to snack on two tyde pods and then tweet about it Justin

Legit enough.

I have access to a condom. Does that mean im gonna fuck your mom ? Yes, yes it does.

Name any place in the US where you're NOT within 5 miles of a gun.

>be Murican in 1930s
>buy cheap land out west, dress up like a cowboy
>beat wife, beat kids, sleep with whores
>order Thompson Submachine Gun by mail
>mow down bandits, niggers, and injuns with impunity
>freedom boner intensifies

things were so much better

Your basement faggot, clearly.

>international experience
You mean Switzerland and Norway?

Death valley.

Name any place on the planet where you're not within 5 miles of a gun.
> try the Sahara or the deep sea, you might get lucky

He means Fagstralia, where their elections dont matter and people regularly set each other in fire and everyone turns a blind eye, because hey “it wasnt guns”.

I had rifle training as an air force cadet

I was talking about the UK and Australia

Did you get a patch for that boy scout?

Which boy scout?

You may think so, but nooooo.

Are you scouting for boys? Faggot

>Communism

People get snippy about that word so I go with Socialism. MLK, to note, was an avowed socialist. pic related

>but imo there's probably some sweet spot in the middle

I would personally disagree and say that only total altruism is sustainable in the long run, but for practical purposes, we'll put that aside.

I would say that we have seen so little, if any of the altruistic approach, that our imagination of what a "middle ground" looks like, is really distorted, and still lists hard in the direction of Personal Responsibility.

> Anger has become an accepted part of our culture, and violence has become part of the norm. To me, that's what's really fucked up.

It is fucked, and the bitter pill is that it alway was part of American history. We kill for money, more or less, and have been doing variations on that theme for 200 years. Most of the time, it's easy because it's somewhere else, some unidentifiable country. But things can reach a point where saturation of that violence into the culture becomes toxic, and seeps into everyday life.

Ban all snakes

Are you actually that retarded?

Not the cause, the TOOL.
Since it has been proven that no one on either side of the party lines gives a shit about treating the root cause (gang culture, mental health problems, almost total lack of social security nets), at least restring access to the tools of murder one by one will reduce the number of deaths related to those tools.
Do this for enough tools, and number of deaths will go down, as people begin to use baseball bats, unstable home-made IEDs that can blow to the makers face, and knives (far more survivable than a good bullet) and other less efficient and stable means to attempt murder.

The UK, really? Where the homicide rate jumped after they banned guns?

Fuck you.

I'm a responsible snake owner. I keep my gun and snake locked in seperate cabinets.

Those stats are bullshit. 1998 is when they started letting muslims into the country.

No school shootings in 21 years

No red blooded american snake would carry a ruger. That's obvioulsy a shoop.

This does not control for the number of honour killings and vast increase in racial tensions, as muslims began their great UK immigration in the late 90s....

To be fair. No one goes to school.

Well. yes... the graph obviously shows 13 homicides per million pre ban, and 11.5 homicides per million in 2011... which is less...

What happened when road traffic accidents were rising and deaths increasing... They introduced licensing, laws and regulations to protect all road users - They didn't just make vehicles illegal.

It's your communist style propaganda from Trump and the NRA that are making you think they want to take them totally away. They don't. I honestly cannot understand why you wouldn't want guns to be more regulated.

If your one of the good guys with a gun then you'll have nothing to worry about.

Even if that's the case, that's 2 years of data prior to a wave of immigration that showed the ban had no real impact on the homicide rate (a slight increase, but very tiny).

No its the steal
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Sure. Blame it on the muslim. Is it their fault that your womem are being raped by them too? Maybe they shouldn't dress so offensively. Dumb inconsiderate whores

So the huge increase in homicide rate is fine, just as long as all those murders don't involve guns in schools?

Yes. Exactly. No wants to sent their children to school thinking they'll get shot. Add in America's homicide rate + school shootings and its fucking terrifying.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought the OP was about school shootings. Apparently the theme of the thread is whatever straw man you want to construct.

And it shows less than 11 per million in 1990 pre-ban, and 18 per million in 2003, post-ban.

Most of the homicide rate is ethnics killing other ethnics, and we're pretty much okay with that.

Much better than school shootings.

even thinking about responding with an explaination on such a bullshit question makes you all to faggots.
and op is the faggot master.

>>Since it has been proven that no one on either side of the party lines gives a shit about treating the root cause (gang culture, mental health problems, almost total lack of social security nets)


You forgot the police initiative to end the "school to prison pipeline" where they refused to arrest Nikolas Cruz after 39 911 calls to his house in 7 years, some of which for pointing a gun at a family member's head, they refused to arrest him or charge him.

The FBI also refused to act when two separate people reported "Nikolas Cruz" to the FBI's tips, one a youtube comment where he claims he's going to be a professional school shooter, and another came on the anonymous tip line, someone was concerned that Cruz expressed the desire to commit a school shooting, and had firearms, and had made threats of a school shooting in the past, but nope, zero FBI interview, zero arrests, just let him go ahead and commit the school shooting.

And then, while the shooting is going on, the school resource officer will stand down and do nothing, first he will claim he "thought the shots were outside" then he'll say "he was ordered to stand down."

Then the first police squad shows up, and they also wait around outside.

> Oh, I'm sorry, I thought the OP was about school shootings.
The post being replied to was
> No school shootings in 21 years

Learn to fucking read, retard.

Aw fuck i forget, you make all the rules.

Oh, so you have a problem with straw men now?

Come at me faggit.

So you're entire argument is you have an irrational fear, which will only go away if you increase the overall homicide rate.
kek

>who. the fuck are those!!!?

Need cite. Far as everyone outside your country can tell, all the people being murdered and raped are white children.

It was a natural occurrence.

As soon as guns were banned, people had to get the urge to kill out of their system. The country had a surplus of coal miners subsidised by the state which could no longer afford it.

It was called Thatcherism.