Fundamentally, is sex with minors wrong?

Hear me the fuck out.

What separates a 14 years old from a 16 years old, biologically? Two years ain't shit for girl development.

So why is it wrong for a 25 years old male to go with a 14 years old female, when the opposite happens at schools and is never shunned?

Look at the number of cases happening in the US, that should tell you something.

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Age of consent is here to prevent adult taking advantage of children's mental immaturity (you can manipulate children into anything).

Thats why many countries allow low AoC if the other party has similar age, but not when its a grown adult.

>What separates a 14 years old from a 16 years old, biologically?
Mental development. You could argue like this into any low age. The border must be somewhere.

1. Pussy market price is highest between 17-19 so women want to save themselves for the right Ahmed and not give it out and devaluate themselves at early age.

2. Other women don't want the pussy market to be flooded with additional pussy making their pussy even less worth.

It's eco 101 stuff really

Let's agree to disagree here.

Mental development ranges from person to person, even at the same age.

There are also character traits, like gullibility. Also, some girls are more developed than others at the same age.

Don't you think those are plenty of variables showing that the age of consent is poorly thought out bullshit and very arbitrary?

The only age of consent should be the average (or slightly above average) age of post-pubescence. Because that's what puberty is for, biologically.

Of course everyone is an individual case. But you are forgetting one key thing - the law must be functional in practice, not only in theory. There is no better option than this.

Thats like advocating for abolishing driving while intoxicated punishments, because everyone has individual effects of alcohol.

Argument holds no weight. Women are always toddlers mentally.

And it takes no time at all for them to become banged up roastie toddlers.

Better to have poorly though out bullshit than to have countless numbers of legally abused young girls.

Ahmed wants to rape under age girls.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.

Germany's age of consent is 14.

In America, and other countries, it is typically accepted that a 14 year old's brain is far less developed/mature than a 16 year old's.

As a 25 year old male, I know first hand that 16 year old women are fucking mouth breathers. They're beyond retarded and aren't even good for sex. Many of them haven't had many sexual partners by that age even if they act slutty or pretend they have, and they are horrible in bed.

The last woman I had sex with that was young was 17. Never again. She was frozen like a board, didn't know what to do or how to act, and kept kissing me really fucking weirdly. She told me afterwards she wanted to post about it on Facebook and use my name and shit and post some shit like
>I just had sex with Dean!
And apparently thought it was okay to snapchat shit about it, too.

I'll never fuck a girl that young again.

AoC doesn't mean shit
In beanerland the AoC is 12 and you dont see adults dating kids here
No matter what the AoC is, any country that is not a third-world shithole, will look down upon grown man dating kids

Paedo mussie masquerading as a Frenchie detected.

Go back to your own country boy fucker.

And I want to add that sex doesn't last as long as it does in porns, for all the fucking retards on here who are virgins or are just retarded.

A good sexual encounter has foreplay and only about 8 minutes of actual sex.

but women never mentally develop

Why would you want to marry and have sex with a 14 year old? What are your reasons?

There is no shortage of women your age. Let the minors date other minors.

what is considered a "minor" is arbitrary and has nothing to do with what is moral or not.

Sex with a child is morally wrong. Sex with a "minor" may be morally wrong or maybe morally acceptable.

Everyone ages differently, but lenience is preferable.

How the fuck can you be attracted to kids anyway? They're annoying as shit.

>16 age of consent
>what's the matter with younger
>cases in the US
What fucking cases?
>OP here I'm a pedophile let me justify it

Fucking europeans I hope islam genocides the french first

>In beanerland the AoC is 12 and you dont see adults dating kids here
>any country that is not a third-world shithole

Nice subtle attempt to put yourself apart from the "third world shithole" category. Stay south of the wall once it's built, poorfag.

Kill yourself Ahmed.

it was once permissible because by 13 you pretty much had all the education you were going to get and you needed to start working. Now it is wrong because it disrupts a young person's maturation to adulthood, even if they are biologically "ready"

14 to 16, thats 13% of her whole life in those 2 years.

and yeah that tells me something, sells me there are some sick people

for what its worth, the hypocrisy depending on the genders is stupid, it doesnt matter what the genders are, those pedo fucks girl or guy should be lynched

if woman are toddlers always mentally, are you saying fucking a 30, 16 or 5 year old is alll the same, because they are the same mentally? jesus christ

>All of the sudden the world is full of well-adjusted adults.

t. Franck Ribéry

So at 18, another ~13% of her life, it's not sick?

>if woman are toddlers always mentally, are you saying fucking a 30, 16 or 5 year old is alll the same, because they are the same mentally? jesus christ

It's a figure of speech, but thanks leaf for taking it to it's extreme.

So can a 19 yr old male have sex with a 30 yr old retard female?

simply saying those 2 years compared to her whole life, saying they "aint shit" isnt really true

>Let's agree to disagree here.
Let's agree you're a fucking idiot.

A line has to be drawn somewhere.

>Why 18? 17 is only a year apart...
>Why 17? 16 is only a year apart...
>Why 16? 15 is only a year apart...

Where does it stop

Lol I feel bad for whoever you sleep with.
8 minutes?

Might as well lower the age of consent to 13 or even 13 with all of those Muslim's fucking the little white girls. It's pointless keeping it at 16 in the UK or elsewhere at this point.

I'd do it.

Ahmed already gets to fuck underage girls, only good white boys who're fearful of the law give a shit about AoC

Most western civilizations hold to the idea that girls dont feel sexual impulses until they're 18. And that adult males cannot feel any sort of sexual attraction for girls under 18.

And so when they realize their 14 year old daughter is banging the 28 year old hot teacher, they're fucking surprised.

The reality is most chicks at 12 are ready to breed and they do get hot for older men, and a good amount of men feel the same for them.

There's nothing inherently "degenerate" about it. Do some historical research and you'll see that we used to breed young. Much like the appendix its probably just a leftover of evolution.

As I said - the law isnt perfect but its the best we can possibly have. It's simply "good enough".

Also, the answer to that question depends on many things. Can gravely retarded people give consent in USA?

What separates a 14 year old from a 16 year old, biologically? Two years ain't shit for girl development.

What separates a 12 year old from a 14 year old, biologically? Two years ain't shit for girl development.

What separates a 10 year old from a 12 year old, biologically? Two years ain't shit for girl development.

What separates a 8 year old from a 10 year old, biologically? Two years ain't shit for girl development.

>8 year olds are 16 year olds

I've seen this argument before and I've heard people here say it's sick to even have sex with a 16 year old (our age of consent).

Truth is it's not immoral at all, it's just biology.

Men are attracted to young, fertile and beautiful women.

Yeah, child porn is illegal, so then why do they shill sex in the form of underage teenage girls on shit like the Disney channel? They know full well what they're doing.

And the term jail bait as well. It's not really news to anybody that a lot of men DO find girls under the AoC attractive.

All morality is are the rules society creates so it can function. We don't need to have sex with young girls these days because women don't die in childbirth, and kids take longer to grow up, so they are mentally immature and can be coerced by adults. In the past though? Well people died. A lot. Young. So people started younger. A lot younger. King Henry VII's mother was 13/14 when she conceived him, for example.

I don't think nature is wrong. When a woman becomes fertile and capable of bearing children, that's when its appropriate to have sex with her, because otherwise why would she be capable of bearing children if she weren't ready for sex?

This is why pedophiles are wrong. They like girls who aren't even capable of it.

It really does vary from girl to girl. When I was a kid I remember a 12 year old who had double D's and a huge ass. She's white too. Fucking hell it was crazy.

Then you'll have undeveloped 15 and 16 year olds.

Nature decides, not us.

while you make some points that i agreewith , saying simply that we used to do something, isnt a great arguement

i also disagree that just because children may have sexual feelings at 12 years of age, doesnt mean they should be having sex. there are a lot of responsibilities/consequences that can come from having sex, and most 12 year olds are not ready for imo

Yeah, you're a virgin.

> Can gravely retarded people give consent in USA?

She did for me.

Children are clay to be formed by their parents.

Mentally damaged people like you like you should not touch that clay.

Yeah, niggers have kids all the time

No.
What is wrong is that society fucks up children so much that they're fully ready for sex and whoring at 13.

>when age of consent in serbia is 14 and hot sluts at clubs will fuck for a couple drinks

lifes good

enjoy your jail and saggy flabby tits amerifats

it basically comes down to if you are ok with your little girl getting banged, granted a father will never we okay with that, you have to come terms with it.
so 16 seems like a happy medium.

that plus it allows for us that missed out on teen pussy to get some.

Truth. In fact, much like with typical women. Sex should be done responsibly.

But the fact that they're boning an adult, is a pro. As you'd typically expect an adult to be responsible anyway.

Age of consent exists because there are a lot of weirdos who will try shit with a kid that they wouldn't try with a grown woman. Either that or they're only attracted to kids, gross.

When I was 13, and a 20 year old I knew told me he'd teach me how to give him a blowjob. I didn't know what it was, I told my mom, and she told the principal who made me feel like I was disgusting. All of my friends turned against me saying he never said that to me, and I was alone for a while until I moved. Another man, the son of the town judge, propositioned me from his truck. I was 14. When I was 15, my sister's boyfriend groped me in front of my sister and boyfriend. It wasn't a fun puberty.

I actually got the most blatant creeping behaviour between the ages of 12 and 14. I had a friend who was very pretty when she was 14/15, but looked about 2 years younger. And that was the age she got the most creeped on.

There are some people that I'd need to be paid to kill.

I'd do you for free.

Here is an idea, grow up, fuck a woman, have a daughter, and then ask yourself how you'd feel if some 28yr old virgin wanted to bang your 14yr old daughter?

You degenerate filth. I know this is an internet forum, so I am aware of how foolish I mught sound in your brain, and although I suspect you as either being a shill to promote Pedo acceptance, a nigger rapist or a fucking neckbeard, I genuinely ask the universe for your speedy demise.

Go to sleep knowing that someone out there wants you to die with all his heart.

An Hero.

It's because around the time child labor laws became a thing in the west many people also had the thought that teenagers fall into that category.
Also early feminism believe it or not also contributes to it thanks to groups in the UK and US bringing up the issue off child prostitution in the late 19th century so that cause the age to go up as well. Please note these where the same groups that pushed for the Prohibition movement and made organized crime the immense problem it still is today.
It's basically an issue of modern morality trumping old traditions, not that it is a bad thing, last thing I want is some 20 something dude fucking my 15 year old sister and knocking her up.
Heads would roll if that happened.

>latent psychopath degenerate detected

I'm sure you'd feel perfectly justified in taking OP out to your shed and torturing him for days on end before you murder him.

You're the ones with the worst kind of hidden toddler-fucking tendencies, nevermind whatever other skeletons you've got in your closet or what sloshes around in that limited brain of yours.

Nice try Mohammad, but girls that age are retarded and their innocence should be protected, especially in this degenerate society.

I banged a 16 year old who told me she was 18. Fingered her ass and no smell. Also face fucked her. She was a fatty tho.

This was 3 years ago so she's legal now.

15, 16, 17 should be totally legal

14 is pushing it

13 and below = No.

The problem is that even in redpilled places no-one gets that girls don't really mature, and that they shouldn't really be in school beyond, like 11 years, the concept of "teenagers" shouldn't really exist, girls need to be married as soon as they're physically able to have kids. Just like we did in previous eras.

The alternative (the present reality), is girls banging all the hot popular guys (maybe throw in some non-whites too) in her teenage years, her best, most fertile years.

And then you have to wife up some slag who's french kissed the knobs of the entire football team. And yet Sup Forums betas argue for the latter scenario, fucking cucks baka.

If it's old enough to bleed, it's old enough to breed.

Pedo detected

>girls that age are retarded
They are always retarded no matter how old they are.

This girl was 15 here. She's 16 or 17 now. Her lips are real, believe it or not.

Apparently Ronaldo tried to hit her up on instagram a bit over a year ago and got denied because of her age.

Whilst physically and biologically true, morally false.

13 years is too early.

14 years is ok, but still very odd if you are an adult and older than 20.

15 years is a ok if you are not older than 22.

16 years is ok if you are not older than 25.

17 years is ok for everyone, but weird if you are older than 30.

18 years is ok for everyone, but weird if you are older than 35.

19 years is ok for everyone, but weird if you are older than 40.

20 years is ok for everyone, but weird if you are older than 45.

21 years is ok for everyone, but weird if you are older than 50.

Then you can drink alcohol, so it really doesn't matter.

>Fundamentally, is sex with minors wrong?

There is no such thing as something being objectively "wrong".

It is illegal and seriously frowned upon by society because in general there are negative consequences to the child, it is seen as largely predatory and just icks people out.

Sex with a 16 year old shouldn't be all that big of a deal. Isn't it even legal in a couple US states? With most others being 17-18?

14 is pushing it. 13 and below is definitely a no.

The AoC is not a green light to fuck.

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That was usefull....

Actually this is a better answer.

>If it's old enough to bleed, it's old enough to breed.

If you are having sex with a child who can't yet reproduce you are technically a deviant. So it is "wrong" in the sense that Mother Nature will "punish" you by not resulting in a pregnancy.

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No one cares.

Sex with girls is wrong and abusive, but sexual love between men and young boys is perfectly natural and needs to be accepted.

There is literally nothing wrong with young boys.

If you mean, "There is absolutely nothing wrong with fucking young boys," then you'd be right. Good man.

How the fuck you work that out?

It's the same logic the jews used to make you accept gays. Don't fight it maaan, it means you're one of them.

Don't start that shit with underage girls too, dirty, dirty animal.

As written by Achmed: The Muslim

I thought she was 18 my little Hungarian person. Whatever she was a fucking whore.

Thats two consenting adults matey

who in pic

You are repressing something with that autistic rage. I had kiddy fiddlers too but you are compensating for some sicko fetish I bet.

Had lol, .
Meant hate

Age is a social construct. An 8 year old can consent

They have gorgeous butts too.

Fuck off pedo leaf

>What separates a 14 years old from a 16 years old, biologically?

A lot. Her brain is still developing, her body is still developing, she's naive to the point of being a child. And two years isn't shit to you as a 25 year old pedo, but that's about another 20 percent of her total conscious life experience. And that's before we even get into the fact that any 25 year old who is even interested in dating a 14 year old is obviously not going to be any good for her. Pedo shit aside, it's creepy as fuck.

I may be wrong, but isn't there an exception to the AoC law in the US if the two are within a certain age of eachother? So that if you're within, for example, 2 years of your partner, AoC doesn't apply, therefore allowing a 17 and 19 year old to be together (using US AoC laws)

Boys get me rock solid.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>Two years ain't shit for girl development.
In puberty it is, why the fuck do you want to fuck 14 year olds?

I'm trying to get a sense of what kind of delusional retard created this image

Is this fetish material, or is it bait?

This

Oh wow, you're so right, I totally forgot I want to leave my wife of 10 years and start banging children. Thanks mate, you saved me, I'm totally un-repressed. Now perhaps I can have that opp and get my dick chopped off.

Of course you retards I'm being sarcastic.

Here is something about why disgust is important.

Try not to confuse moral disgust with deeper desire.

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Moral disgust

There are a number of lines of argument that link disgust to our implicit sense of morality. Antisocial acts and individuals are often labelled as disgusting [1], similar physiological and brain activation has been observed in moral and biological disgust [9,116] and a number of studies have suggested that physiological disgust can affect moral judgement [117–119], though doubt has been cast on some of these findings [120]. While the link between disgust and morality needs further exploration, disgust clearly plays a major and visceral role in our response to wrongdoing, exploitation and injustice. We asked teenagers at one UK school to list what they found to be morally disgusting; of several hundred examples the most common were rape, racism, killing, murder, torture, bullying, paedophilia, discrimination, necrophilia, genocide, exploitation, incest, theft, bestiality and cannibalism.

We are fucking with you, calm down.

BTW My Lil sis wants your #

>28yr old virgin wanted to band your daughter

Oh no! My daughter wants to date a NERD! How horrible!
Where are Chad and Jamal when you need them?

>Sweden
Of course

this site has a lot of interesting articles.
human-stupidity.com/irrationality/sexuality

they aren't pedophiles, but ask questions regarding child sexuality and observe the hpocrisy of many opinions.

there are still parts of the world where children are raised to be ready for starting their own household by the time they reach adolescence.

why are teenagers more oft than not rebellious? they inherantly sense they should have more independence.

in nature any creature that reaches maturity to bear offspring will begin doing so. granted, we are more than the animals of the field. therefore, morals and wisdom should be well imparted so the choices the young man/woman are of better quality. relying on the government to do so by imposition is folly.

forcing others to bend to your will through granting another entity rights you do not have is just as much a violation as using direct personal force.

>25 yr old wanting to date a 14 yr old is obviously not good for her

What makes you say that?
Not all pedophiles/hebephiles are creepy, disrespectful people.
Such relationships have been common throughout human history, that people object so much now is down to feminist conditioning.

Nice argument
Why you moralfags never ever provide actual argument rather than calling other flags meme? It's like Christians responding is always "fedora" nothing else

Then why do 50 year old men date 30 year old women? There's no shortage of 50 year old women. Let 30 year olds date each other

Ohhhhjj!!!! You mean because they're all old ugly piece of shits so it won't matter??

Your logic is even more retarded than Reddit

In Portugal it's ok to have sex with a 14/15 year old as long as you're not taking advantage of their "immaturity" whatever that means (I assume it implies teachers and other figures of authority)
After 16 it's fair game.

How the fuck can you be attracted by 30 year old cunt? They're annoying as shit