So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
Its about fucking time we had a serious discussion about Islam, and how blown out of porpotion the idea of a "Muslim threat" is. You need to understand that the bible is equally violent, with Jesus himself damming people to hell and promising nothing but eternal torture while a select few (the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven.
I am going to start off with the first two biggest misconceptions about Islam. Since your all "red pilled", i trust that you will absorb these unbiased and non - skewed facts like the proper consequential bastions of truth you basement dwellers claim you are.
Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases (source: odintext.com/blog/text-analysis-quran-bible-3of3/) so biblethumpers (and even athiests who hate the Quran citing it as a backwards book) BTFO.
Fact #2: Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion by the meida and Donald Trump who make a living based off fear and sell products based off what are essentially lies. For over 90% of all terrorist attacks commited worldwide are commited by NON MUSLIMS. With Jews and right wing extremists far outnumbering Muslim extremists) according to globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619 . Do keep in mind this article also cited that Islamic terrorism accounted for less than 1% of all attacks in Europe.
Third, moves such as including arabic as a OPTIONAL course in French high schools is there to build bridges to the high amount of arabic speakers in France. This is not for the sake of "PC" pandering but a rational, logical chioce to help maximize the potential of Arabic speaking people who cannot get a job otherwise.
>smallest number of violent words and/or phrases Do you how fucking long is the Bible? It's obvious it contains more violence. It's longer
> Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion Tell the french, the belgians, the nigerians, the iraqis, the syrians, the english, the spanish, the tunisians, the lybians, the koln girls, malmo swedes, the swedes, the serbians, the greeks, the turks, the philippians ecc ecc ecc ecc They will punch you int he face.
>less than 1% of all attacks in Europe what
>p maximize the potential of Arabic speaking people who cannot get a job otherwise what potential? look at pic related, literacy rates in the world. lol. half of the muz scum can't even write in arabic.
Christopher Johnson
>NO FUCKING MEMES
Uh huh.
Easton Butler
>SandNigger
Jose Cooper
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Colton Walker
Please leave quietly.
Evan Miller
>>blown out of proportion >>blown
Ayden Collins
>The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases That's not how that works, retard.
Ian Foster
>Half of them cant read or write
Well Italy, if your school was being bombed by Zoionists and Americans, i highly doubt you would be very literate either.
>tell the french
Tell the Europeans that there have been very few terrorist attacks by Muslims in relation to other groups. At least your oppression (despite being horrible) is doing something i suppose.
Wyatt Campbell
That is how it works, but i wouldn't expect much understanding on Islamic theology coming from a homogeneous, irrelevant nation in northern Europe.
Christopher Rodriguez
>Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, You deliberately forget the Hadiths which can't be ignored by Muslims.
>Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion >Fact #2
Nicholas Rogers
>serious discussion
what the hell leaf. I knew this wouldn't be a serious discussion. You're deluded. Dumb cucknada.
>other groups what the hell are you talking about. what group. I live in fuckin Europe. There are no other groups. Stop believing this propaganda. The only threat to our communities is islamic terrorism. Get over it. You can't deny shit.
Aiden Williams
>90.8% of all violent events >source itself refers to "terrorist attacks" >doesn't state the proportion of violent jihadists compared to not crazy muslims
What a shit graph. has questionable content but it's far superior.
Carter Hall
PRAISE KEK R A I S E
K E K
John Murphy
OP is cucked, probably Trudeau himself.
Connor Nelson
>So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
Fuck off back to Red dit, faggot
Chase Anderson
The bible isn't meant to be taken literally, the Koran is.
>not including the Hadiths >books describing the every action of the "perfect muslim" >which include torture, rape and warmongering
>BTFO >non-biased
>the biggest threat of the islam is terrorism Look at iran before and after the islamic revolution and say that again
No, it really isn't. The Bible is a collection of stories which meaning is to shun violence and uses the stories as an example as to why you shouldn't be doing it.
That's just one example of why you're incredibly wrong, but hey, I wouldn't expect much understanding on Christian theology coming from a multicultural, irrelevant nation in Northern America.
Adam Butler
But it's not their terrorist attacks, or that they're racist and violent that's the worst. It's that they refuse to integrate in our societies.
In 2006 62% of the Danish Muslims thought the Qu’ran instructions must be followed fully. That figure has grown to 77% in 2015.
>"It seems that Danish Muslims have become more religious in all dimensions, both in terms of faith and practice. Generally, we would expect that the opposite would happen, and that they would eventually come to resemble the rest of the Danes, who are not particularly religious activity, "he says to Jyllands-Posten.
Alright man, no fucking memes. Islam is a political system as well as a religion, which automatically makes it incompatible with western political systems since it can't assimilate or exist alongside western society, it needs to replace it in order to continue existing. In addition, Islam breeds a culture that is completely at odds with western culture. A woman can walk around in the evening wearing a skirt in the west and not be bothered by other westerners, but in an Islamic society, she's be harassed, attacked, raped or worse and not many people would see anything wrong with that. A man can order bacon on his burger and the vegetarian behind the counter will serve it to him. In an Islamic culture, well, youtube.com/watch?v=sWMwV2rETJA This wasn't even in a Muslim country, this happened in Australia.
Jason Ross
Most of the violence in the Bible is in the Old Testament. Any Christian is instructed to live their life in accordance to the New Testament. The Old Testament is a collection of books showing prophecy leading up to Jesus (New Testament).
James Gray
Djokovic?
Daniel Carter
>72 virgins have been deposited into your PayPal account
Josiah Campbell
While not all muslims are currently terrorists, every muslim is a potential terrorist and terrorist supporter.
Jonathan Hill
The Quran and Hadith are the only texts of Abrahamic religions that literally and clearly instruct it's flowers to be violent. All the violence in the old testament is just God going apeshit on his own, and the New Testament were the Jews raping Jesus, or stories of 'bad people' doing bad shit.
Carter Morales
>about Islam NO FUCKING MEMES >the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven. Nice meme, ahmed. No one is forcing you to accept Jesus. If you are going to hell, it is your own fault.
Angel Roberts
Wahhabism and Salafism are fundamentalist interpretations of Islam and a major source of violence around the globe
Wahhabis are concentrated in wealthy ME countries like Saudi Arabia, they have a lot of money which they use to fund jihadis and foment insurrection in unstable regions
If the 1 billion+ muslims could acknowledge and address the problem of salafism, that would be nice, but it seems most muslims are more intent on deferring blame and providing patronizing #NotAllMuslims bullshit instead of addressing the bright glaring problem in their own community
It certainly doesn't help that Wahhabis control Mecca and therefore have a stranglehold on Islam
Isaiah Jenkins
Please don't provide youtube videos, stupid OP will attack you for it and 'invalidate' your argument because of poor sources.
I think you mean GOOD Muslims. They read the Quran, the Haddid.
There isn't a fundamentalist problem, their is an Islam problem. For as long as their is Islam there will inevitably good Muslims.
I also fucking hate people who are terrible at things, and that include bad Muslims. So a Muslim good or bad is a not a desirable thing to have in this world.
Nolan Scott
>no memes >You need to understand that the bible is equally violent Well that didn't last long
Ryan Brown
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Easton Brooks
#1 The koran has more violent words per word and is therefore a more violent book. But who cares?
#2 terrorism isn't the only issue (though proportionally Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism in the west). Muslims are stupid, and come from violent and poor places. Why would we want to make our population more violent, more poor, worse education.
Julian Foster
Muhammed is a child diddler and a warlord
Benjamin Clark
>it needs to replace it in order to continue existing
Islam is not an invasive species user. It does not need to replace anything. The truth is that (this is coming from a Serb living in Canada btw) Islam can and has coexisted for hundreds of years and had its own golden age that is responsible for much of Europe's progress during the renascence. It was Islamic trade with the venetians and Byzatines that brought the barbaric westerners out of darkness.
Also, if Islam is so terrible then why is it flourishing among many muslim diaspora communities today? A recent study conducted in Canada actually concluded that Muslim communities are allies in the fight against extremism, and depriving them of accommodations (thus marginalizing them) will not help our fight:
>So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months. How much do you get paid to post and monitor this shithole and why does your employer feel the need to waste time and resources here?
Isaac Clark
What's it like being 140?
Gabriel Williams
>The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases (source: odintext.com/blog/text-analysis-quran-bible-3of3/) so biblethumpers (and even athiests who hate the Quran citing it as a backwards book) BTFO. Final word of God, no reformations or sub-sects like Christianity
Fuck off shill
Andrew Morgan
Please log in, Mr. Trudeau.
Joshua Bailey
>Tell the Europeans that there have been very few terrorist attacks by Muslims in relation to other groups. At least your oppression (despite being horrible) is doing something i suppose.
What the hell are you talking about?
The only other terrorist groups in Europe are IRA (which I haven't heard from in ages), the Basque separatists (the same applies) and... well that's pretty much it.
We used to have the Brigate Rosse here in Italy, which were communist terrorists who killed a few hundred people back in the 80s.
Every single terrorist attack in the last 15 years has been at the hands of muslims.
Stop believing the kike's propaganda.
Zachary Ortiz
He is at least 150, babies don't remember shit.
Jack Anderson
all muslims are supposed to follow the example of Muhammad's life.
Muhammad was extremely violent and spent the entire latter part of his life slaughtering Jews, Pagans and Christians in his jihad against the kafir in order to spread Islam.
that's all that really matters about Islam.
The Qu'ran says to follow the example of Muhammad. that he is the perfect model of conduct. so all you need to know in order to know Islam, is Muhammad.
Joseph Green
I almost took this post seriously but then I noticed the flag.
Cameron Ward
What about the ultra christian Mafia and their terrorism too Italy? Or are you not allowed to talk about them?
Adam Scott
>serious discussion >leaf shitposting Pick one
Charles Taylor
I'll proceed with an accurate debate. I hope OP won't insult me because I'm Italian, again.
>Islamic trade with the venetians and Byzatines that brought the barbaric westerners out of darkness. OP doesn't know about history. The Renaissance started when Greek and Byzantine professors started to flee the East because of Muslim rule, and spread their teachings in Italy. The Venetians lost their power during the late middle ages because Arabs cut off trade routes. I know this because guess what I'm Italian, not some stupid Serb immigrant far away from here. This my history. Cuck.
>study conducted in Canada Here comes the 'study' things. I want peer reviewed things. Not political studies.
Landon Parker
>For over 90% of all terrorist attacks commited worldwide are commited by NON MUSLIMS It says "in America" right in your link, faggot.
Jack Phillips
As long as they kill your filthy goatfucking minions, they can be considered as saints.
Blake Fisher
What the hell is that video suppose to mean?
Bentley Green
They aren't terrorists. They're defending their country and way of life from invaders.
Brandon Lee
Try harder next time. Your post reeks of rotten low quality bait.
But I appreciate the effort; it's still better than a trap thread.
Xavier Allen
I'm sure you know
Robert Robinson
No Bait here user. I love how you immediately shoo something away as "bait" just because you disagree with it. How intellectual of you.
Samuel Wood
No I dont. What is this horseshit? I really wish there was a "flag" button sometimes. So this pointless and unrelated porn can BTFO.
Camden Foster
And since abrogation instructs Muslims to favor the latter passages over the earlier passages when a scriptural conflict exists, the early passages promoting peaceful action against kafir are made irrelevant by those latter passages which encourage the slaughter of kafir.
Jackson Morales
>The Venetians lost their power during the late middle ages because Arabs cut off trade routes.
This is true. People think the Germanic tribes caused the dark ages when they brought down Rome but the truth is that the first thing they did was settle in and attempt to emulate the Roman system. They didn't want to DESTROY Rome, they wanted to take it for themselves.
However, this was followed shortly by the rise of Islam, which resulted in Muslim pirates essentially cutting all trade off from Europe in the Mediterranean and also assaulted the southern coast of Europe with constant raids, pillaging the thriving communities along the Med. coast and taking millions of slaves.
This is one of the reasons why Europeans fled en masse to live near fortifications (castles), and why the middle ages were so hard for Europe.
William Lopez
>I want peer reviewed
Studies from unbaised sources (see links in OP) do just as good of a job user. By that logic all "studies" cited by the users ITT about Islam are equally bullshit because they are not "peer reviewed".
>OP doesn't know history
Think again Lorenzo, where do you think all those Byzatine scholars got their scribes from?
Aiden Murphy
Talking about Islamic terrorism is a dodge; there's enough to object to in "moderate Islam." In the US, we are not allowed to criticize Israel or talk about the Jews using team plays they learned in the Semitic tribalist world here in the Western individualist world. The major coherent reason given for this is because talking about Jews might lead to violence. Muslims are exempt from this, and when they aren't talking a out Jews, they're whining about the culture they chose to live in, and supporting ISIS in surveys. How can I not resent that?
Landon Miller
>Islam is not an invasive species user. I know hindu people who would punch you in the face for saying such bullshit.
Gavin Price
What? The Mafia aren't terrorists you dipshit.
They're criminals, they only kill people who threaten their interests.
Muhammad was peaceful in Mecca when he was only just a shitty street preacher with little more than 150 followers (that took him 13 years to accomplish, lol)
Then he fled to Medina, where he started his political campaign and began chopping off the heads of people who refused to follow him... and shortly thereafter the entire Arab world was Islamic, displacing countless Jews, Pagans and Christians who used to live in the middle east.
most of North Africa and Asia Minor used to be Christian, and very much in the tradition of the classical Greeks and Romans.
ahh what a world it would be without Islam.
Jaxson Wright
>Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths >muhamad >raped a 9y old >enslaved people >lied and made up prophecies countless times >murdered people >contradicted himself
>Christ >based
Come on fella, we all know muslims are nothing but a bunch of dickheads following a retarded false-prophet, you're wasting way too much time acting like you're actually something else.
Isaiah Watson
No, its becauer this has been debunked many many times and shills just repeat the same nonsense
Jayden Green
>Well Italy, if your school was being bombed by Zoionists and Americans, i highly doubt you would be very literate either. HOLY FUCK. END THIS MEME Muslims have been cave-dwelling goat-fuckers who violently interact with any other civilization long before the west was fucking sick and tired and starting bombing you sandniggers. Islamic civilization has been militant and retarded for much of its history
OP is a dumbfuck who has no idea what he is talking about.
SAGE
Brayden Taylor
holy shit Dala Laima is based
Gavin Long
Let's wait a moment to consider this, this fucking idiotic leaf doesn't has the fucking mental ability to differentiate between organized crime and terrorists.
I dont know any religion that make a effort to fuck up the world as much as islam.
Easton Ortiz
Wow really makes you thing now I really love mudslimes and want them all to come to Eurape
Sebastian Collins
Muslims are peaceful tbqh fambruhs. I know Islamaphobes think it's just a meme, but literally a miniscule fraction of a whole percent of Muslims actually carry out violence in the name of their religion, certainly no more than any other religious group. People just hate them because many of them are not white.
Jacob Morris
t. Mahmud Abu Mehmed Hajaar Khaleed ibn ali-ajmi
Jason Cox
>NO FUCKING MEMES
Brayden Miller
Wow really mages you thing blease gome do Eurape
David Mitchell
>Studies from unbaised sources Follow the links you retard, the ACTUAL studies don't appear, all you get is an error page if you just follow the links.
Logan Rogers
Did you read what I wrote? Greek and Byzantine got their knowledge from themselves, It was their knowledge. Greek culture was lost in Western Europe during the early Middle Ages because the Byzantine Empire didn't have good relations with the Christians of the West, who were in constant conflict. Western Europe was in perpetual war. When Muslims began to erode the Byzantine Empire, intellectuals fled the Middle East (which spoke Greek and had Greek culture before Islamization) to Italy, where barons and knights took them under their protection. Italian barons were competing one against the other in arts, poetry and science. Byzantine intellectuals were paid by the barons to spread their knowledge of poetry, arts and science. Renaissance started from there. Muslims burned Alessandria and Pergamon, the greatest libraries the world ever knew. Caliph Omar said: 'burn all the books which do not follow the quran, and those which follow the quran, burn them, because we don't need them'. Muslims were a disgrace. Persian scientists were all closet Zoroastrians. Al kuwarizmi was a closet Zoroastrian, he was not Muslim.
I wanted to treat you seriously but the. I saw #1. Word counting >didn't read the rest
Fuck you and fuck off go back to your shithole you filthy brown shit
Jordan James
>muslims are peaceful you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even fucking know what muslims think of you?
The muslim world is separated into two regions:
>Dar al-Islam: The House of Islam (i.e. muslim shitskins) >Dar al-Harab: LITERALLY FUCKING TRANSLATES TO HOUSE OF WAR. THAT IS FUCKING WHAT YOU ARE IN.
Do you wanna know another name for the House of War/Dar al-Harab? The House of the West.
Islamic society has been at war with Christianity and the West since it's inception. Wake the fuck up
Joseph Flores
Why has some edgy genius not marketed shit rags or cleaning towels with prints of the Torah, Bible, and Quran on them?
Ian Green
>and how blown out of porpotion the idea of a "Muslim threat" is.
kill yourself
even if you're just posting pasta for laughs, kill yourself
Daniel Rivera
The Quran is the self-proclaimed final and absolute truth of Allah to be followed to the letter, the Bible is not.
If there is so much as one command of violence in the Quran then that's enough to be a huge problem. Moderates propagate the book and therefore propagate the threat of violence. Without reformation it will always be a fundamentally dangerous religion.
Dylan Green
Just because the Koran says something doesn't mean that the vast majority of Muslims believe or follow that anymore. The Bible says lots of crazy, violent things too, but just like Islam, only a very tiny percentage of Christians follow those words.
Carter Bell
Saw this the other day! Snapped it for pol
Levi Ward
Have you ever read the New Testament? Jesus DOESN'T suggest us to kill the infidels or rape their daughters. The Old Testament is not important, nor valid anymore, it is outdated.
Daniel Sanders
>If there is so much as one command of violence in the Quran then that's enough to be a huge problem. Moderates propagate the book and therefore propagate the threat of violence. Without reformation it will always be a fundamentally dangerous religion.
fucking exactly. Christianity was a militant religion at one point. Then there were movements like the Enlightenment and Religious Toleration, which changed Christianity. That needs to happen in Islam too (I doubt it though, since there is no seperation between Church and State, which is a fundemental concept in Christianity).
Thomas Roberts
That's not he point tho Muslims why are they identified as Muslims? Because of their ideology and beliefs. And those ideas are completely the opposite of modern civilization and our western society
It's not because they believe another religion make them bad. It's how they from the very beginning are not suitable for our society. They want to come? Then abandon your old life style and beliefs
It's like a American or Canadian suddenly go to South Korea then accuse everyone use chopsticks are weird and everyone should speak English. Dude. You ain't belong to here ffs! Integrate or go fucking home
Benjamin Morales
Why is he WHITE? Wait, I know. Racism against whites doesn't count.
Dominic Perry
>NO FUCKING MEMES
is this the sort of fucking meme that is prohibited?
Justin Sullivan
Le ebin Bible more violent words meme. You know it counts "Thou shall not kill" as a violent sententce right?
Connor Cruz
What are you doing in Cucknada? You are too intolerant for this land.
Luis Turner
The Koran is meant to be taken literally, while the fucking book is open source and available for people to read there will always be the threat of juhadists. Meanwhile things on the bible can and are encouraged to be interpreted.
You are also ignoring the Hadiths, which are the action of the perfect muslim. If perfection can't be improved, it cannot be changed without being degraded, which means a muslim should follow the Hadiths.
Do you people even read before speaking?
Adrian Morales
>comparing muhameme, a pedophile, liar and rapist false prophet to the Christ
Noah Foster
A FUCKING LEAF
Charles Evans
>Just because the Koran says something doesn't mean that the vast majority of Muslims believe or follow that anymore. Are you literally retarded? So just because most Muslims ignore the abhorrent bullshit in their holy book, that makes it OK?
>The Bible says lots of crazy, violent things too, but just like Islam, only a very tiny percentage of Christians follow those words. thats a Tu Quoque logical fallacy. We aren't talking about Christianity. What the Bible says is moot point.
