Looking for reccs of an alternative to this band

Looking for reccs of an alternative to this band.
The whole "separate the artist" thing works great if the artist is at worst a media nuisance like Kanye. Being a fucking child predator goes way WAY beyond that. It's such a heartbreak, I've loved this band dearly for the last 7 years and now I'll never get those thoughts out of my head. I pressed forward from some of the worst beats of depression and situational sadness I've faced with the help of their music and now it's irredeemably tarnished. I'm angry that I ever got into them, thankful for what the music has done for me but not at the expense of giving a man a vehicle to harm a child. Fuck all of this.
Give me some other shit to listen to.

Here.

Accept the wake up call, most artists are fucked in the head and have done shitty things. Bowie himself has been having sex with 14 year olds or something.

You gotta realize people change in 15 years. All of his lyrics post Deja deal with depression and fighting inner demons. He has expressed regret. I regret my past. I should be judged for who I am not who I was.

>15 year old girl
>child predator

Wasn't he like 24 and the girl was like 15? I know girls who when they were 15 years old, were dating guys 20+ and still are in a relationship. Does that make their boyfriends child predators kek?

Also he didn't have any contact with her, he didn't have sex with her, this could have been much worse.

Exactly i just read that he didn't touch her till she was 19 kek.

Not Kanye. Kanye is pure. PURE!

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>giving a man a vehicle to harm a child
Nigga get off your high horse, if I was 15 and Hayley Williams flicked her bean on skype for me and said she liked pictures of my willie I’d be happy as a shool boy. Teenage girls are just as horny shits at teenage boys. Sure that shit aint legal but he definitely did not harm no goddamn child.

This is called lowering your standards for people and it's pathetic

people like to say that but most girls don't even know how to give themselves an orgasm at 15 and much older for first orgasm with a partner. i mean there are still urges and curiousities but u get what i mean

>Haley Williams will never give you an in-depth tour of her vagina over a low quality early 2000's skype call

nice blog post
go ask reddit
your brain dead collectivist mentality isn't welcome here

This is what a 15 years old looks like.
Stop being prudish cunts.
it's perfectly normal

I mean maybe, except abusing people the way he allegedly did is pretty condemning. Choose something less dumb to be a contrarian about

I listened to the first track of that album and it sounded like dramamine. Just listen to modest mouse.

Abusing people is such an opinable thing today, I don't give a shit.
If you haven't phisically harmed anyone, tough shit.

There are moments, and memories, and experiences, I really struggle to face, things that make me miserable. Do I cry abuse everytime they happen?
Toughen up, you fucks. Suffering is normal.

it's not just the age thing anyway.
imagine being a 15 yr old girl crushing on some dude in a band, he could get u to do almost anything u wouldn't usually do just cuz ur star struck and don't want to disappoint him. social pressure is fucking intense as a younger teen. how do ppl not remember that?

oh ya there was some guy from YouTube doing the same exact shit with a bunch of underage girls too and that got pretty creepy

doesn't mean he didn't do some douchey shit that he should be called out on so he doesn't do it again tho right?

You made my insides feel bad. I feel abused. Look what you've done I'm gonna go tweet about it. You're history buddy.

We already knew he was a douche though. I swear you're all the type of people that would act surprised if it came out that Dan Schneider raped all those nikalodian girls.

Just make sure that every accuser gets their entire life identity examined by their family and friends, who then get to accuse them openly about all their misconducts and poor choices, and so on.

Once everyone's misdemeanors are in the air, the world will be a perfect place, right?

Stop being a faggot.

i never said that and i don't feel that way. i think the girl should have talked to him about her feelings and let him know how fucked up she felt about their whole relationship and called him out. i can't stand any of this celebrity culture bs

ur dumb

wtf I love Brand New now

How?

Crimity, so many emotional posts on his post on facebook.

Doubtful these chicks really even care, just trying to get their likes so they know they fit in.

ignore celebrity drama and enjoy the music
basically just

Y'all know you can find some 15y/o girls attractive & still be smart and decent enough to not creep on them? At best he's just a retard. At worst he knew how easy it would be to take advantage of a young fangirl and ran with that shit.

I don't see why the guy asking a 15 year old for nudes makes their music any less good

liberals are dumb tbqh. they are becoming the new soccer moms trying to stop all the fun in art.

Some people just relate heavily to the artist and have trouble separating them.

I thought that the claim made about him and a 15 year old had been around for a long time and someone had come about and said they were false? And if that IS the case, then there is no reason he needed to address it and I have no problem with his statement. It seems to me that even if it is true, he's been doing everything he can in private to improve himself and make up for what he's done. I'm not saying that he should necessarily be forgiven (again, if it is true), but his quest for self-improvement should definitely be taken into consideration with your opinion.

This makes me relate more heavily with the artist though.

idk i never been able to sit back and listen to kanye without thinking about what an idiot he is and it kills the vibe

True

I guess so. It's just surprising how some people have a hard time separating the artist from their music desu.

I avoided this band because I always thought they were weak soyboy shit
But now that they're dangerous, I'm intrigued. Where should I start?

the album in the OP

i mean thats different. because you never liked the art anyway

A 15 year old is accountable for their actions I don't care what the law says.

There music was kind of bland to me. Never got the hype.
I still listen to MJ and like alice in wonderland and those were made by pedos

She’s 13, not 15

western civilization was started by greek boy fuckers.
You really cant escape it.

Humanity was started by pregnant 12 year olds

This. 13 or 14 I’m not so sure about, depends on the person. But definetly 15.

The response to his statement seems to be
>I was in a bad place then and i've changed and i'm sorry
>'how dare you apologize and change your attitude'
Guy fucked up and made a mistake, the 15 year old knew what she was doing as well.

I mean the laws for stuff with sexual shit and underage people and whatnot are all basically completely good and necessary and important but somebody making a single mistake and slightly stepping out of these boundaries honestly isn’t a huge deal as long as it isn’t in like a malicious scheming pedo-philic or harmfully pathologic kind of way. Like a 14 or under person would be one thing but a 15 year old is less awful I feel like, though this is obviously assuming it isn’t like a fucking child-looking fucker.

And this is all assuming it was (at the time) consensual and okay with the girl, she was still underage and therefore shouldn’t have been subjected to this shit in the first place but if she was actively a part of the decision for this to have happened then she’s at least somewhat responsible (even if she was underage her active social consent at least would have had some reasonable influence on him)

Even Déjà seems to be showing some regret for his actions.

just listen to the music you faggot

Jasmine?

I hope you're ready to find alternatives to half of artists you like because about that many have definitely done shitty sexual stuff.

Listen to The Republic Of Wolves. Their Varuna album is pretty tasty my dude.

PLEASE HELP LOWER THIS PEDO'S RATING

>Being a fucking child predator
The age of consent in a bunch of European countries are 15

Me vs Maradona vs Elvis

bruh, he abused an underage girl lmao that's way beyond something that's just shitty and forgivable
and his statement was utter bullshit too

read her statement. she was and is very harmed.

no proof of him abusing her my dudes.

lol Jesse Lacey literally named his daughter Bowie.

but he didn't adress the fact that she was underage. also, he spent most of the time saying he was a sex addicted fuck and talking about himself rather than apologizing to her. his statement was pretty shitty, dude

This is awful

so you'd like him to confess to child pornography charges and go straight to jail by his own doing. are you delusional

if this wave of sex abuse has taught me anything, it's ADMIT NOTHING.

he basically indirectly admitted it. i mean, i'm not getting too heated over this, but did you read his statement and thought he didn't admit it?

Why is this even surprising? Like hell, 90% of Brand New's lyrics are "I've done super fucked up shit to women and I feel like a dick for it".

>be jesse
>meet girl who takes your photo
>she sends it to you and you both go home
>feel a bit horny some time later
>hit this girl up
>she doesn't say no
>skype call her somehow, in 2002
>she doesn't say no
>take out penis
>she doesn't hang up
>jerk off
>she doesn't hang up
How exactly was this abuse?

my dude he said sex addict. where did he say he was a fap addict. the girl said they fapped over skype not fuck.
i did that shit on omegle for years

Option 1: Deny and hope it goes away. This tumblrina single mother/drug addict probably won't pursue any charges because she's somehow too lazy to look up evidence on her old computer, but other victims/"victims" will speak out to try to prove you wrong, and the mob is focused on you since you're now a victim blamer.

Option 2: Deny and sue everyone within 500 miles for defamation. Burden of proof that you never talked to someone online 15 years ago is on you, and now that girl is obligated to look for evidence on her old computer.

Option 3: Admit to jerking off in front of a minor and seeing her naked. Go to jail. Be a registered sex offender for life.

Option 4: Vaguely admit you're a bad guy and probably hurt some people in vague ways by being a bad guy. Hope it goes away.

Option 5: Murder her.

i don't know if any of these options include the band staying together

Fucking hell, this makes the lyrics even more heavy. I'm still gonna listen to them.

If it bother you that much...

Modest Mouse
The Smiths

consensual sex between an adult and a child who love each other very much and are going to get married someday is still abuse/rape/child molestation. what do you not get about this

So let me get this straight, Brand New's entire legacy, not to mention people's plans for their final shows, is now utterly ruined because a fangirl who was 12 or fewer months away from the age of consent willingly sent Jesse some nudes?

To be honest, I don't really even care about this for Jesse's sake as such, I'm annoyed people will probably stop playing Brand New songs in clubs/bars and other places I'd appreciate hearing them down the line.

just dont pay for the music, retard

You people are disgusting.

they nEVER HAD SEX

Literally I’ve been saving so much money for 2018 in preparation and now idk what to blow it on except wrestlemania

Legitimately curious, can anyone explain to me why this is only recently a big deal? 80s rock stars are still pretty well celebrated and loved in the public eye despite pretty much admitting to banging underage groupies in the day. Brett Michaels, Steven Tyler, Gene Simons, etc. are all pretty accepted and even still have pretty mainstream success to this day. Not even defending anyone, just curious.

Going to see them on Thursday and frankly I can't wait lel

shows will be cancelled my dude

What about no

the girls of that time enjoyed getting fucked by them. and those guys probably paid them so cash.

>implying the tumblr whore didn't just lie about her age

i don't think europe's looking for blood in the same way this country is right now

>Nicole Garey has claimed that in 2002 when she was 15,
>She also claimed that he made her ‘watch him masturbate on Skype.’
>Skype was founded in 2003 by Niklas Zennström, from Sweden, and Janus Friis, from Denmark.[29] The Skype software was created by Estonians Ahti Heinla, Priit Kasesalu, and Jaan Tallinn. The first public beta version was released on 29 August 2003.[30]

Why do people give a fuck what some artist did or not when it comes to their work? Ooooh noooo I can't listen to [insert band here] now!

N-nani?

i'm afraid of being associated with a pedo and compromising my social status !

lol

It's called not having standards for people I don't actually know or care about, and putting on a good record because I have my own shit to worry about in life

>of his lyrics post Deja deal with depression and fighting inner demons. He has expressed regret. I regret my past. I should

Man, wake up. Most people are giving him a free pass because "muh lyrics r deep" and "muh duhprusson". Fucking double-standards.

Nowadays, don't take it further OP, pirate his stuff, don't support the artist, that's all there is to say. It's a huge shame, as the other band members were really nice, like Vin.

>one guy messes up so lets fuck over the other band mates
okay idiot

It's not like I expect for everyone to do the same. We all know that Brand New is overhyped as fuck, and everyone will keep tossing money at them @ their tour.
I'm just saying that, if OP feels guilty about it, then don't support them. That's their best solution rn.

> listening to self indulgent emo music for gay teens helped me face my dark demons blah blah suicidal horrible western life Wahhabism

How can you not hate yourself for writing that? When I felt down, I pulled up my socks and tried my best to surround myself with positivity and progression. Not stagnant pretend self loathing and attention seeking. I liked brand new back as a teen but if you still listened to them past 20, you probably have a low IQ. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to identify with the teenage aiming lyrics. Every single emo band is made up of sexual predators, it's incredibly obvious.

>shitty emo band has shitty faggot fans

who would've thunk

You're one of those morons that judges with emotions instead of facts aren't you?

You realise its innocent until proven guilty, right?

do you listen to the Beatles? How about burzum, swans or the countless other artists who are disgusting people. grow up, if you like something just listen to it. It doesn't mean that you automatically support the person who made it.

Varg isn't a disgusting person, he is too pure for your post-modernist morality.

whether you agree with his views or not, he still killed a guy.