>wins a league called >manurewinslol where only manure competes >as soon as other teams get money he starts losing and goes home crying like a kid playing fifa >stays for 12 decades at the same club and only manages to get 1 (ONE) generation of decent players >2 (two) CL trophies in 300 years with the highest budget in football history year after year
why do you respect him again? with endless time even moyes could win those titles
Probably because he is the greatest manager of all time.
Jaxson Sullivan
Don't forget that he managed to make Arsene Wenger look elite for a number of years.
Oliver Nguyen
And one of the greatest men in general.
Christian Reed
>highest budget in football history year after year
What? Also you undo all your shitposting in your first point you fucking spic
Luke Butler
>Come across a golden generation from the academy >Use it to get early success >Now you have the biggest brand and most bandwagon asians you can sign any player you want >Use your dominance to bully and abuse referees into giving you dodgy decisions of 100 minutes injury time
There's a reason he was comparatively so poor in Europe, he couldn't bully foreign refs or UEFA. European clubs didn't have managers like Big Sam or Steve Bruce who would literally come to Old Trafford and bend over for him
Cooper Morris
You don't know jack shit about soccer. Look at his work at Aberdeen. He also won 13 PL titles, 5 of which were from 2007-2013 after Abramovich bought Chelsea and the Sheiks took over at Man City.
He would have won more CLs if he didn't get refballed by Madrid and Barca all the time. Remember the Nani red card in that game against Madrid?
Jace White
shit, totally forgot that
Hudson Rodriguez
Spoiler alert: It was >manurewinslol because of him
He would have won a few more CLs too if it wasn't for 09-11 Barca being the greatest team ever
Nicholas Ramirez
Or he twice ran into GOAT Barcelona
Logan Rodriguez
>poor in europe
Parker Reed
>European clubs didn't have managers like Big Sam or Steve Bruce who would literally come to Old Trafford and bend over for him
u wot pal?
Every major European league aside from England is like those Czech pornos were it's loads of women tied up behind a glory hole and a few blokes go around fucking them and high fiving each other on how easy life is
Joseph Long
He really is overrated, he knew what was ahead and bailed. All the FA help in the world wouldn't be able to save him now
Andrew Mitchell
He made the league manurewinslol you dumb spic
Gavin Rivera
>get to CL final with a midfield of Park, Fletcher and Giggs/Scholes with a combined age of 85; a strikeforce of past-it Rooney, past-it Owen, Hernandez and Berbatov >he would struggle with Pogba, Martial, Ibrahimovic, Mkhi, etc.
Christian Russell
>almost same years as barcelona but behind >barcelona had a shit performance from 95 to 2005 in europe
now i see he was goat
Mason Brooks
Who cares how many group games or quarter finals you won? It's about tropies and he only won 2
James Butler
There's a reason there's only been 4 English champions league winners in the premier league era. Plus two of those were Liverpool and Chelsea who had given up in the league.
In the last 25 years, only Manchester United have won the champions league and faired well in the premier league simultaneously.
This is because the premier league with its tough fixture schedule and harder games is more draining and requires more focus than any other major league.
If fergie managed in Spain, he'd have 10 champions league
Josiah Martin
was a correct red card de jong should have gotten red in 2010 as well
Jacob Green
The most anyone has is 3, and only one of those was post-1993 format change.
Parker Mitchell
But have been top tier since 2006 winning nearly 90% of their games
Are you implying that making it to the CL semis isn't impressive? Also the european compeititon was harder in the 90s
Jaxson Powell
he won most of his titles in the 90s, when the english league was worse than the dutch one
Ian Jackson
>This is because the premier league with its tough fixture schedule and harder games is more draining and requires more focus than any other major league
m8 we're in 2017, that is the meme from 4 years ago.
But have been top tier since 2006 winning nearly 90% of their games
And the outcome is the same, so he was just average
Daniel Cooper
>m8 we're in 2017, that is the meme from 4 years ago. Then why is fergie the only manager to win the champions league and do well in the league simultaneously??
Julian Thompson
Becuse he's one of the few coaches who have won a treble (Something halal haven't managaged) and was able to turn united into a team that was highly competitive in both Europe and England sometimes with some terrible players
Caleb King
Ignoring the fact he won most in the 00's, it's not as though United were always the size they are now and you just drop them in 90's First Division/PL; they'd have been just as disadvantaged as the other clubs. They weren't a dominate force before Fergie. He made them that way.
Camden Myers
Nani's red card was a manual redcard you fucking stripes and stars
Levi Carter
You're an idiot, Juan
Elijah Watson
Just saying m8. I'm not belittling Ferguson but telling you that the PL hasn't always been like it is now and the same goes for other leagues
Camden Stewart
He won one more PL in the 90s (6) than he did in the 00s (5) where england and 3/5 from 2005-2010 when england was highly competitive in europe you idiot
Wyatt King
>>get to CL final with a midfield of Park, Fletcher and Giggs/Scholes with a combined age of 85; a strikeforce of past-it Rooney, past-it Owen, Hernandez and Berbatov He just got one of the easiest paths in CL history playing against >Shalke in the semis
Nolan Hernandez
>won a european trophy with a team from scotland >who don't play in glasgow That is why
Jacob Ross
>This is because the premier league with its tough fixture schedule and harder games is more draining and requires more focus than any other major league. DO English actually believe that Bourmouth is a real threat or they are just memeing?
Samuel Garcia
>And the outcome is the same, so he was just average >having the joint 2nd most CL titles as a manager despite managing a team in the dreary north of England that spent a decade with penny-pinching owners, in a highly competitive domestic league where the FA don't give any concessions to assist clubs progression in Europe and the wealth is shared fairly and not just to the benefit of one/two clubs
The man was a miracle worker.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Yeah, see above. I was just pulling the lad's head out of his ass
Easton Stewart
The premier league was the laughing stock of Europe until a Russian started throwing money at Chelsea.Stop memeing fucking blackburn won the premier league in the 90's.
Nathaniel Thompson
Oh so manure was a small team with no money with no help at all from his FA when he won his CL. Maybe that's why he was competing against clubs like Valencia or Deportivo, glorious teams with trilions of budget
Sorry to hear about their misery life.
Cooper Thomas
99/00 counts as 00s. They won the trophy in 2000.
So it's 6/5 to the noughties.
What is your point exactly? The PL not being like it is now doesn't mean it was easier for Manchester United back then. There was still Blackburn, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Arsenal and such to compete against.
United were on that level; they weren't the mega-rich, Asian bandwagon United they are today
Jayden Diaz
Chelsea were better than Madrid that year desu and Schalke were dark horses that year
My point is that believing every foreing league is a cakewalk and that the english league has always been the most competitive in the world is just pants on head retarded
Grayson Brown
>deportivo and Valencia had no budget
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo.
Noah Butler
Nah I think you brits are just deluded as fuck
Jaxon Mitchell
>spic talking about refball when Halal and Uefaonola exist
Benjamin Gutierrez
>Chelsea were better than Madrid No they weren't.Everyone knew that the 2 best teams that year were Madrid and Barça and that the semis were the real finals 1999.
Elijah Perez
>Reddit spacing
Xavier Johnson
>creates a false story to make him look glorious >he was actually losing against teams like that
If you want to deny manure had infinite more budget than those two teams from 2000 to 2005 is up to you m8.
Jack Bell
>tfw in a few seasons clubs like Burnley will be triggering release claws in Real Madrid's star players and doubling their wages and spics will be consoling themselves with the Europa league
Caleb Kelly
been hearing this since 1992
Thomas Hughes
>he actually believes this
that's why penaldo and messi are at psg, nerman and bayol at manure and suarez and modric in qatar
Wyatt Sullivan
>bayol at manure and suarez and modric in qatar
They all play for Qatar/Arabs tbf
Noah Lee
>the highest budget in football history year after year
not even remotely true.
Owen Young
sorry la, once brexit is triggered you'll only be able to import players from india and pakistan
Nicholas Sanchez
sorry m8, those clubs aren't owned by some chinks who make their fans angry so they have to create clubs, there are elections where people vote
Sebastian Lopez
>Fletcher and Giggs/Scholes
>implying these players were bad in 2009 or 2011
behave
Andrew Harris
>halal >elections well, technically they are still elections even with only one possible candidare
Parker Walker
Manure in CL in the 90s before they finally won in '99:
>lost in the prelims to Galatasaray >finished 3rd in the group with Barcelona, Galatasaray and Goteborg >lost in the semis to Borussia >lost in the quarters to Monaco
HAHAHHAHAHAHA. Not to mention the epic '96 UEFA Cup adventure.
Let's also not forget some absoluette GEMZ from the 00s:
>lost to Bayer in the semis >lost to Porto in the 1/8s >finished 4th in the group with Villarreal, Benfica and Lille >finished 3rd in the group with Benfica, Basel and some Romanian gypsies >BTFO by Athletic Bilbao in UEFA Cup
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. For every successful run he had 3 stinkers. Winning 2 CLs in like 25 years in one of the consistently richest clubs in the world is not that impressive.
Landon Martinez
Yet only 1 manager has won more CL's than him.
Makes you think it might actually be pretty difficult to win.
Mason Harris
Zidane is on course to SMASH those records.
Daniel Perry
>Learning Europe and tough place to visit especially with a young team >Tough enough group at the time >Winners around that time >Good team with Trezeguet and Henry
>Went to the final (also extremely unlucky) >Won the whol thing (also very unlucky) >Shit year >Shit year with a pretty bad team >Alot of very good players in that team
Tyler Reed
if you dont rate fergie youre a fucking idiot
Colton Phillips
>He also won 13 PL titles, 5 of which were from 2007-2013 after Abramovich bought Chelsea and the Sheiks took over at Man City. Funny that you bring that up considering that the only time any of those teams brought the league was when United brought van Persie
Adrian Brooks
>this thread >british posters
wew. is it really that hard to admit that you cant watch anything other than the premier league because you lot cant speak anything other than english?
Nolan Jenkins
>greatest manager of all time False
Jordan Moore
>PL with its harder games Do delusional Brits still believe this bullshit? Your nation is a non factor in this sport, you faggots can't even get out of a group stage at this point
Nathaniel Cook
they believe that because they have a harder struggle than other leagues that they are bigger winners
Gabriel Roberts
I didn't really watch football when I was younger even though I supported United. I don't support them anymore because I find them possibly the most unlikeable club on earth. Delusional fans with Stockholm syndrome and the most boring football known to man thanks to Mourinho.
Did they play attractive football in the past, or are people just bandwagoners hopping on for the wins?
I understand supporting a club who are on TV, but only if they're enjoyable to watch.