I would bet money that he is on 24/7 suicide watch right now.
>Ruined his career >Ruines his band's image >Tarnished the legacy of some seriously good albums >How the fuck is his wife (who he married last year and JUST had a daughter with) ever going to trust him now? >He probably won't be able to become a teacher, something he spent a few years in college studying for >Let down all of his fans and the people that looked up to him >Abused his power over a younger fan (or several), and despite him trying to seek treatment since it happened, he's still fucked >Probably going to get a felony, or at the least, will be a registered sex offender >Lost the respect of his friend Kevin Devine
Seriously, it amazes me that he hasn't blown his brains out in panic yet. Can you imagine being almost 40 with a lifetime of recognized artistic accomplishments behind you, and then having it all crash and end like this?
If he gets sentenced to any time in jail, I absolutely think he's going to off himself. He's been a depressed sad sack for 18 years and it's all over
Thomas Russell
>was losing all my fans
Josiah Bailey
Right? Christ, I'm surprised he didn't kill himself after The Devil and God. That album is depressing as hell.
Adrian King
lmao Sic Transit Gloria is literally a song about becoming a sex addict I knew shit like this would come out
Ethan Cooper
I don't like these white numale indie crap but if you stop being a fan of them just because some dumb roastie regreted send some nudes to the singer 10 years ago then you should go listen to nun choruses, all artists are sexual freaks, none artist is pure and noble, get over it, the guy didnt killed or raped anyone, just got some wins over a dumb teenage murican, big deal
Dylan Wood
>lmao Sic Transit Gloria is literally a song about becoming a sex addict I knew shit like this would come out
Sic Transit Gloria is about a woman raping a man. Not even kidding you.
Leo Sanders
Either that or it's about Lacey wishing to be raped by a woman and claiming he's gotten to a point where he doesn't even like sex anymore.
Aaron Cook
Bitch made him do it
Anthony Stewart
take it how you will, as i'm just a fag on a malaysian weeb music board, but i worked with Jesse Lacey and *he is the fucking worst*. just a greasy, unrepentantly gross manchild. i have several friends who've also worked with him, or p.a.'d at venues hes played at.
quick anecdote: ended up going for a ride with him on after a show we opened for, because my friend - a p.a. - had to drive him back to his house to find a shirt. we sat at his coffee table, covered in about 2409r782374 ash trays and seven boxes of half eaten mike & ikes. what seems like an hour later of uncomfortable stillness he comes barreling out of his bedroom, a little sweaty, panting, and drops fuckin STACKS of vhs tapes on the table in front of us. we were both pretty confused at the point. he then pops one in his combo vhs/dvd player and it's him getting blown by some poor chick with really fuckin terrible roots, he then puts the shirt over his slovenly body, turns to my friend and says, "this good?"
it is one of the most surreal, ridiculous moments of my life.
Jonathan Rivera
This is pasta right?
Isaiah Fisher
yes
Mason Gray
or may a woman raped him and it fucked him up so he became the ""predator""
Charles Thompson
take it how you will you retard
Luis Campbell
Boo fucking hoo cares
Owen Diaz
I wish I could see some skank blow Jesse!
Lucas Ramirez
Jesse...
Ian Hughes
I've never even listened to their music, but watching the drama has been interesting.
I don't understand why he's getting so much shit.
>The girl lied about her age in her interview. She was 17 when they first met, which is the age of consent where they lived.
>Jesse asked her for nudes and masturbated on camera years after they met (her words) Which would have made her around 19 when this stuff happened.
>They didn't have sexual relations until she was 19
>The other allegations sound a lot more like angry exes and people looking for attention.
He's been a piece of shit to people with the serial cheating, but this whole narrative people are running with that has been describing him as a predator has been completely blown out of proportion.
William Morales
now it is
Jayden Rogers
What interview did she lie about her age? She said she was 15 and as far as I'm aware that hasn't been contradicted yet.
Ryan Evans
It's fucked up but I'm still gonna listen to them
Easton Hernandez
Dont give a shit, not gonna let this ruin my enjoyment of the band. Band girls are total fucking whores anyways, so I have 0 pity for them.
Blake Butler
You've been cucked by a child pornographer.
Jack Wilson
How so? I enjoy the band's output and I've seen them live before. I don't give a shit what some skanks have to say years after the alleged "abuse" happened
The only cucks are the people letting this actually impair their enjoyment of the band.
Adrian Ward
hot
Jaxon Jones
It's not alleged bruh Jesse didn't deny it
Jace Reyes
Who here doubling down on /our guy/? If you were in your early 20's and 16+ year old girls were throwing themselves at you, dont you think you would do something? LETS BE REAL.
Gavin Scott
No I just want a gf
Joseph Wright
a 16 year old grill who likes the same music as you asks to be your gf, what do you do?
Daniel Cox
I support him. I wouldn't have tried to be manipulative or solicit nudes for years, I would have just fucked her.
Joshua Williams
Who?
John Moore
I mean if I had the option between a 16 and 18 year old I would choose the latter but I'm not going to go out of my way to chase the younger girl, also girls lie about their age all the time
Easton Morris
Be nice and explain that I'm not trying to go to jail
Adrian Baker
Nah you're totally not cucked. You're just so brainwashed because of muh feels like a whiny teenager, to the point where sexual abuse and child pornography matters less to you than music. Guess that makes you a strong, rational, independent person.
Oh wait lol no it makes you a fucking child who is easily dooped.
Bentley Kelly
its consensual though so its ok
Hudson Diaz
I'm not falling for that one Nicole
Bentley Cruz
yeah thats the only thing you gotta worry about. Teenage girls are vengeful bitches.
I fucked a 16 year old when I was 21. Will I be able to write a great alt rock/emo record too?
Owen Thomas
>I know you'll come at night like a thief Really makes you think what the song was actually about..
Bentley Lopez
HOLY SHIT PLEASE BE REAL.
Alexander Fisher
>bitches on the internet are liars >except for this one woman who backs my guy Pathetic
Aaron Brown
Fuck no.
15 year olds have no body and no experience. I seriously don't see the appeal.
Mason Cruz
>>Tarnished the legacy of some seriously good albums Which ones? Their only good album is The Devil and God... .
Ryder Hill
you're spouting off the exact same words the your peers who are calling for lacey's head. how rational and independent of you. you definitely think critically and outside the box.
Logan Russell
He fessed up to it. It's over. Every time a Christfag drags his feet on a sex scandal it's a known fact they did it.
Ian Cook
>15 yr olds have no body buddy i encourage you to leave your house one of these days
Jack Turner
Kevin Drew must be the smartest man in indie then. Because the only people he ever banged were his band mates.
Kayden Murphy
>not liking Daisy neck yourself faggot
Robert Garcia
lol I have no "peers", you are paranoid as fuck that I'm calling you out and getting defensive after going on the offensive. You are delusional.
Ryder Brown
Buddy, I'd encourage you to seek out a girl who is actually developed. Fuck off with your DFC.
15 year olds are awkward, under developed and under experienced. They look like juveniles, and it's just weird.
Leo Jones
What about Traci Lords?
Landon Clark
i'm not even that user, fuckface >i have no peers Yes you do. Now kys
Jayden Sanders
>was losing them to raping and to lying
Zachary Long
There are some serious hormones in our water and chicken these days. You should see the average teenager body. Its fucked up.
Christian Ramirez
What ever you say bud.
Henry Torres
I never said I was into 15 yr olds. I'm saying that young girls these days are looking older and older. Open your eyes instead of looking at the ground or your phone all day.
Landon Wood
Lrn2English, Abdul.
Thomas Moore
How am I brainwashed? Just because you're too much of a brainlet to separate the art from the artist doesn't mean I am.
What he did to these stupid sluts has no bearing whatsoever on my enjoyment of the music. Guess you just weren't a real fan, faggot. Stop listening to bands for social cred and listen to them because you like them you fucking soyboy
Hudson Murphy
...
Josiah Robinson
This myth has been repeatedly debunked. There is no causal link between hormones in our food and early puberty.
Sebastian Reyes
Look at teenagers 20-30 years ago and today. See the difference.
Isaiah Powell
this cover makes so much sense now....
Henry Hall
I think anything post Deja deals with a lot of guilt of his past. The lyrics are uncanny.
Jayden Bell
>dont you think you would do something? I absolutely would - with all of the 18 year olds. I'm not pissing my life and career away for some jailbait.
Cooper Gomez
does it fucking matter? something is going on where young teens these days look much older than the young teens of yesteryear. if you deny it, you are either naive or lying.
The artist creates the art and if you enjoy material you know (and don't care) was made by a predator, then you're amoral and generally uninterested in challenging yourself. You've said as much before. Stop being so willing to bury the misdeeds of musicians who make music you like just because you're too cowardly or lazy to understand how the art and artist are inextricably connected. This whole argument is the most intellectually lazy way to dismiss real issues and it's moronic to boot.
Jayden Hill
Even so, who cares? They're 15. Thank god I'm into thicc mommy's and milfs.
Don't know who that is.
Brand New didn't take that photo. It's Untitled #44, a photo from some artfag in NYC about Freud and the Unconscious.
Hunter Hall
Citations?
David Jones
>be the biggest christian shill in post hardcore >is actually a child predator Will wonders ever cease?
Leo Rodriguez
They didn't take the photo, but they still chose it for the front cover, ya dingus.
Aaron Bell
>He fessed up to it
Jonathan Powell
pics or it didnt happen
Jacob Perry
Certainly! Just come on over to our big fancy successful studio and we'll go ahead and get all the paperwork squared away.
Jordan Watson
>you're amoral and generally uninterested in challenging yourself.
No, I just want to listen to good music without a bunch of faggots trying to get preachy with me about shit the artist did that I care nothing for.
>Stop being so willing to bury the misdeeds of musicians who make music you like just because you're too cowardly or lazy to understand how the art and artist are inextricably connected.
I'm not burying shit, I just don't care. Go dig up as much dirt on Lacey as you want, I'm certainly not going to stop you. I'm also not cowardly nor lazy, I just don't give a shit. Meanwhile little posturing faggots like you love to go on these little moral crusades and start telling everyone that the band they enjoy is no longer enjoyable due to factors extraneous to the music itself. You are not and never will be the arbiter of what qualifies as tasteful so take your moralistic opinion and shove it up your ass with all the other shit you shove up there you absolute faggot. I bet you're the type to hear BN come on at a party and start bitching about how problematic they are.
Dylan Sanchez
I saw them at high and low fest, still think it was one of the best shows ive ever seen. pete wentz apparently actually fucked her, why isnt anyone tripping balls about him
Nathan Cooper
>I don't care about child porn I called you amoral and you just proved it. Thanks.
Daniel Scott
Just more creep shaming
Gavin Baker
>>be the biggest christian shill in post hardcore are you actually fucking retarded?
Parker Allen
Sure, I'm amoral. Address the rest of my point or fuck off. I don't listen to music to make a political statement. People like you who jerk themselves off over how righteous and moral they are deserve to be lined up and shot, you perennial wet blanket.
Jayden Price
He's right though.
Joshua Robinson
>have the capacity to examine your own feelings, biases, and beliefs >wet blanket You're just bolstering every single point I made about you being lazy and stupid.
Carter Richardson
>Jesse an heroes >pulls an MJ >everyone immediately forgets about the questionable shit he did >goes down in music history as a legend >mfw
Lincoln Brown
MJ was innocent though.
Wyatt Nelson
It's people like you who choose to be ignorant about these real issues that play a very big role in perpetuating their existence.
James Johnson
fucking lol
Aaron Long
I think Aaron Weiss still has that title, if you can call mewithoutYou post-hardcore these days.
Chase Lopez
So if I don't conform to your overly moralistic point of view, I'm lazy and stupid? I'd rather be both than a condescending little soyboy who takes it upon himself to shit on something others enjoy
I'd say it has more to do with the plethora of easy band whores who make it their sole goal in life to fuck a rock star and then have the gall to complain that they're pervy as if they didn't know the music scene is filled with scumbags
Jordan Hughes
It's going to be a long night
William Cook
dumping feels here
Brand New has gotten me through so much shit in the past 15 year and I don't know what I would do without their albums. The recent allegations on Jesse has me feeling really lost and through the past two days I've been listening to their albums and they give me a completely different feeling than when I first heard them. When I first listened to their albums I could relate so much to what Jesse was writing but now everything just feels greasy. Every lyric feels like it's it was alluding to this point and I never understood it. I honestly don't know what to think of their albums anymore.
I realize Jesse was only 25% of the band but every album feels like it was leading up to this moment. I feel betrayed, hurt, and now lost. I think I will continue listening to their music in the future but with the recent pitchfork article it makes it even harder. No other band has ever made me feel the way I do while listening like Brand New.
This problem is going to last more then the weekend
Nicholas Richardson
diff user here. The music is very much seperate from the artists' other actions, unless the music directly references it. Stop demonizing people. Even if these people did bad things, doesn't make them a complete demon. Through their music you hear them playing instruments (sometimes other people are playing), their voice, etc. This is just a human being here. Its not like we are listening to someone commiting a crime right on a recording, and its not like these music artists make these songs with the same frame of mind as when they commit crimes, not neccassarily. And of course a person listening to a criminals music still doesn't have to agree with what the music artist did when he wasn't making music. And if the artist did bad things, went to jail, ok, but its not like people are enabling this behaviour becuase they are still listening to the music regardless...these artists may do bad things, but we don't have to act the same way and fight fire with fire, we dont have to act like criminal towards criminals, essentially...
Daniel Powell
sorry for the blog post but i needed to get that out
Connor Adams
Should make great material for a solo album.
Noah Brooks
I feel the same way. This is what I get for putting people on pedestals.
Jayden Phillips
No worries. When are you gonna come out and tell your parents you're gay?
Gabriel Thompson
nah man, according to others in this thread you have to stop listening to BN RIGHT NOW and stop enjoying their music in any capacity, or you are part of the problem and literally enabling rape culture
If you disagree you're just stupid and lazy, pleb.
Kevin Scott
i did that 7 years ago nice shitpost 14 year old
Luis Russell
same desu, I've been in denial and was hoping the accusations were bullshit.
Guess Nine Inch Nails will stay, unless Trent's past reveals something fucked up.