This was some true Libtardation, I just hope reform doesn't happen just because...

Connor Sanders
Connor Sanders

This was some true Libtardation, I just hope reform doesn't happen just because a bunch of High Schools Fags walked outside of class. Especially when 2% of these kids can't even vote yet

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merriam-webster.com/dictionary/militia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

Caleb Nelson
Caleb Nelson

Can actually vote*

Jonathan Morris
Jonathan Morris

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Owen Moore
Owen Moore

it would take a lot for them to totally over turn the second amendment. I don't think any of them understand that that demand it. It would take senate and rep majority, president approval, supreme court approval, and then 3/4 of the states have to agree on it. The bill of rights is no joke, it isn't just like any other law or the rest of the constitution. these people are retarded is all

Luke King
Luke King

calls for reform.
doesn't even know the current laws.

Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

/thread, neither do they understand that there is already gun control laws. if the FBI would have done their job and flagged Cruz after the shit ton of reports they got on him. He wouldn't have been able to buy a gun, so right there. the government can't even enforce the current ones and they want more. just so fuckin braindead

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

Fake news

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

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Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

"Gun violence has its roots in racism and bigotry."

Lol what? Gun violence has its roots in inner-city niggers murdering each other then getting famous rapping about it.

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

fuckin keks, the Hitler dubs just perfects it

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

This reminds me a lot of something Jordan Peterson said in a lecture about why he thinks that activism like this is useless.

It is like a drug, it makes you feel good when you do it, but then what? They have done nothing but waste hundreds of man hours on gathering and chanting at people who neither care about their opinion nor have the power to grant their wishes. Effecting change in society takes time, effort and determination the likes of which will consume a man entirely and you have to be ready to dedicate your entire life to doing something to make any sort of permanent change. This is why activism in general is so dangerous, it gets the restless parts of society together so they can get it all out of their system and at the end of the day they can pat themselves on the back and feel good about themselves. Look at these kids in the picture, they look so pleased making their statements and holding their signs but just take a minute and ask yourself one question.

What are they going to do tomorrow?

Tomorrow they are going to go back to their schools and feel good about themselves and eventually forget about that day they went out and rebelled against "The Man". Some of them might find another cause to champion for awhile, some might just get laid and forget they ever wanted to protest, a few others might just dedicate their life to solving "the problem", but in the end all this is just feeding a massive circle-jerk where people with hate and angst in their heart and a need to progress towards something, have someone to look at and call a nazi.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

Why the fuck are other high school kids so retarded

Angel Parker
Angel Parker

I never heard any of them mention revoking the 2nd amendment. Wanting common sense control i.e "Well Regulated Militia" is not the same as repealing.

Lucas Phillips
Lucas Phillips

Except people are doing what they can to remove existing safeguards already. One safeguard that could have prevented this was repealed by Trump executive order.

Cooper Barnes
Cooper Barnes

Just take a moment and appreciate how these people are going to be the new workforce.

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Yes it is. Owning a gun was always intended to be a prerequisite for joining a militia, not the other way around. The intent was always for citizens to own guns, and form militias if they wanted to or events required it. What you are proposing is absolutely unconstitutional.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

muh rights, 2nd amendtmtnt cant be changed!!!

jesus, I hope all fucking americans shoot eachother into exctinction, they like to pretend as if their laws were made by some kind of god and are perfect and cannot be changed

Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

No it's not. Anyone that has a gun is a member of a de facto militia. As such requirements such as training, registration, and licensing is within the scope of federal powers.

Eli Morgan
Eli Morgan

i was just thinking it was probably him

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

And there we have our evidence. This asshole isn't an American, but thinks he knows what's best for us. I don't tell your country how to govern itself, how about you extend the same courtesy?

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

Do you know what a militia is in this context? I don't think you do. Cite your sources.

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

well, they can't be changed, that is the point soy boy

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Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

there's a process for amending the constitution. it's been done a couple dozen times. gun grabbers are welcome to go down that road, but what they can't do it an administrative end run around the bill of rights, which it what they're doing (there's nowhere near the support required to change the 2nd amendment itself)

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

eat shit you swedish fucking faggot

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

this. they think the founding fathers were thinking of weapons 1000x more advanced when writing the constitution.

Xavier Wright
Xavier Wright

2% of these kids can’t even vote yet

Did you mean that ONLY 2% of them CAN vote, or do you seriously misunderstand how old high schoolers are? Or what voting age is? Or both?

Asher Foster
Asher Foster

Do you? If you are thinking of the contemporary notion of a non-aligned military group e.g. anti-government militias that had been in the news a few years ago that is not what it means.

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

pretty sure they were, since resisting a tyrannical government was one of the express purposes of the 2nd, and that obviously requires access to similar firepower

Wyatt Nguyen
Wyatt Nguyen

And retards like you are stupid enough to think they believed that all technical innovation stopped in 1750.

Camden Roberts
Camden Roberts

They can be, that's why we have amendments. We had an amendment to repeal prohibition that was part of a previous amendment.

Ryder Butler
Ryder Butler

Cite your sources.

Anthony Gomez
Anthony Gomez

At the time of the founders, they could not possibly envision a communication medium like the internet. Therefore, free speech should exist on the internet.

Look, I can make stupid arguments about historical context too~!

Luke Morris
Luke Morris

No, just that they couldn't perceive the kinds of weapons that we have now.

Samuel Cruz
Samuel Cruz

bro just wants to bang a fatty, leave him out of it

Dylan Martin
Dylan Martin

should not*
fuck i cant type today

Ethan Miller
Ethan Miller

Its as if this nigga forgets that pucket guns existed in 1722

Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/militia

Also:
United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment did not protect weapon types not having a "reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia".[
Granted, Heller V DC revised that, but I firmly believe that it was mistake and should be revisited.

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

Yes it can be, but it sets such a dangerous precedent that I don't believe ANY amount of lost lives would justify it. What goes next? 4? 9? 10? Maybe they'll just grab straight for 1?
The day the Second Amendment gets altered or repealed is the first day of the beginning of the end of the United States of America.

William Miller
William Miller

pucket guns
You mean the Puckle gun? It may have existed back then, but how well known was it? How widely was it used?

Andrew Rodriguez
Andrew Rodriguez

ITT: Everyone forgets the 2nd amendment says "The right to bare arms" It does not specify small arms, just arms. Our gods the Fore-Fathers wanted us to have everything and anything we could afford, right down to the main guns on a battleship.

If a man so had the means and the will to own a 16" main cannon off a decommissioned Iowa class battleship I say let him.

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

well since militias are for fighting armed battles against military groups, just what type of weapon is excluded under that quote? wmds maybe.

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

yeah i don't see the "only the weapons that existed in 1776" crowd defending the right to own the huge cannons on battleships of the time

Jason Fisher
Jason Fisher

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Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

In terms of modern firepower it would really be irrelevant. No amount of personal firepower can stop something like F-22 Raptor firing missiles from 3500 feet.

Austin Wright
Austin Wright

People do own some of those. Collectors.

Oliver Sullivan
Oliver Sullivan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

Almost as if they don't like the possibility of being shot.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

You can stop an F-22 raptor from firing that missile before it ever leaves the ground, attack the supply line, fuel or munitions factories. Hell you could even go after the airframe mechanics.

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

Fuckin A dude. I just found myself a goal in life, but I want the whole damned ship, I think we should recommission the Missouri for a coastal militia capital ship.

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Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

Now you are getting into battlefield strategy and logistics. If the federal government were to go rogue and initiate first strike there would be no opportunity to stop them on the tarmac.

Angel Cook
Angel Cook

If the federal government were to go rogue and initiate first strike there would be no opportunity to stop them on the tarmac.

which is why the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan only lasted a few months each right?

Luis Taylor
Luis Taylor

Again, logistics. Any strike at home could involve attacks launched from multiple points around the country. Here in the US there are tens of thousands of aircraft, armament, etc that could be used. What we have overseas is minuscule compared to that.

Ian Howard
Ian Howard

Not the user you replied to but I'm butting in. I don't think we'd have much advance notice of incoming artillery but jets wouldn't be of much use on infantry, I'd expect blackhawks or similar. Regardless, still not likely to be used in a guerilla civil war beyond recon, killing citizens enmasse would be a PR nightmare for the government and a dream come true for anarchists.

Jason Peterson
Jason Peterson

tfw nobody checking my battleship trips

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Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

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Jackson Howard
Jackson Howard

Any strike at home could involve attacks launched from multiple points around the country.

you mean exactly what fucking happened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here in the US there are tens of thousands of aircraft, armament, etc that could be used.

and? just because you have first strike doesn't mean that you'll eliminate your enemy. hell NATOs strategy against Russia and China kind of relies on that fact.

additionally your scenario assumes that everyone in the military will carry out aforementioned strikes as ordered, without any resistance whatsoever.

Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

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Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

0 real world experience
think their opinion has any validity at all

Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

fuck off randy

Connor Morales
Connor Morales

no u

Colton Wood
Colton Wood

NO! U!

Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

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Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

live in east coast
30 degrees outside
libtards decide to go outside
5 min they go inside
tfw you stayed inside and did something more productive

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Angel Evans
Angel Evans

antiaircraft batteries and other f-22 raptors could stop one. we should be able to own those too.

John Garcia
John Garcia

How did the United States become a country where people march in the streets that the government restrict their freedom?

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

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Brayden Ward
Brayden Ward

It's most people over 21 who are saying that, not 16 year olds. 2/10 for the reply.

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Lucas Martin
Lucas Martin

And how widely are the legally purchased and licensed "assault weapons" that all this legislation is aimed at actually used in instances of gun violence? Very very rarely.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

Gotta b8 harder ATF

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Connor Ortiz
Connor Ortiz

Here is a britfag who applauded his sand nigger mayor for banning people from his country for being Christians...oh I mean terrorists.

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

Because a government restricting the rights and freedom of the citizens always results in utopia, right?

Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

So all the kids who skipped high school today based on that message are 21?
0/10 for not using basic logic.

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

why aren't you fighting against the regulation of tide pods?

Colton Wright
Colton Wright

Utopia based on the Greek root utopos means “no place” or “no where”.
Actions directed towards achieving utopia will never result in utopia.

Oliver Price
Oliver Price

Because there’s no amendment referring to the right and protection of tide pods

Aiden Smith
Aiden Smith

Are you trying to be stupid?

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

Literally nothing wrong with allowing the purchase of personal firearms at 21 instead of 18
tfw any person without prior convictions can walk into a gun store and buy one despite not being trained to use it
Yet training is not a requirement. Why?

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Blake Walker
Blake Walker

Go read the federalist papers and learn how wrong your revisionist interpretation of the second amendment is.

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

Yet training is not a requirement. Why?

what, like safety training?

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

Basic safety and range time.

Jayden Roberts
Jayden Roberts

Literally nothing wrong with allowing the purchase of personal firearms at 21 instead of 18
Except for the fact that you’re denying that age range between 18 and 21 (legal adults) their 2nd amendment right which is illegal, hence lawsuits.

Christian Anderson
Christian Anderson

Basic safety and range time.

probably because each gun has a different set of safety features and specifications, in regards to the safety thing. how would range time decrease the likelihood gun related fatalities?

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

there is though. they have the right to decide on their design. to regulate that is government tyranny.

Blake Stewart
Blake Stewart

It is required for conceal and carry jackass. Not to buy one for home defense to stay only on that property inside the house.

Zachary Stewart
Zachary Stewart

I think they were suggesting a change, not forcing. But okay, call everything a fascist like every other normie.

Robert King
Robert King

i bet you don't even think gun regulation is genocide, you fucking libtard.

Jayden Cox
Jayden Cox

Why not also make porn (getting into or owning) 21. Hell why not 25. Since the human brain doesnt stop developting until 25-27

Hell why not make the age of consent 25 too. I mean if you cant own guns now until legal drinking age then why not just make every adult right be when your mind is fully developed.

With parent/guardian signature and proper documents a 15 year old should be able to own certain weapons. 18 would lift the parents being needed. But still full background checks. 21 shouldnt change shit

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

It won't be illegal when we raise the legal age of adulthood to 21.

A lot of gun-related fatalities are safety related accidents, it's a precautionary measure.

WEW. Not even what I'm speaking of.

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

Added to You can buy a dirt bike and drive it legally with no cdl at your property, but you cannot buy a Harley and drive it on the highway with no cdl. It’s the same basic concept.

Camden Baker
Camden Baker

A dirt bike is a strictly off-road vehicle. Apples and oranges user, I get what you're going for but it's not the same.

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

I can't tell if you're pro or opposed to to gun control

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

Voted trump.
10 year nra member
lifelong gun advocate
Made fun of you for calling things fascist
But I’m the perceived libtard

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

Why not make it 27 then?

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

Does your illiterate ass know I’m for gun rights? Jesus fuck kid. Stop sperging and comprehend something.

Jeremiah Stewart
Jeremiah Stewart

A gun bought for non conceal and carry use is strictly for home defense. Don’t think so hard.

Henry Cooper
Henry Cooper

fuck off libnazi. fight for the pod or kys.

Easton Hughes
Easton Hughes

Also want to stop gun crime

1: Already happening. I know CNN wants you to think 100000 babies are being AR15nd but gun murder has gone done. So has voilent crime

2: Stop promoting single parents and cheap hookups. Most shooters. (Or bad people) come from homes with no father. Maybe tell women to pick better men and not just looks (Yes you can actually find a 20/10 looking guy who also has morals and values. Omg. Its almost a fucking miracle)

3: Force weapon training to any gun owner. It would be free to anyone in the NRA and would go over everything from terms. Trigger disipline. Laws. Safety

4: Any police dept who ignores signs of a voilent person should be heavily punished. 30+ warnings.....

5: Cruz wasnt put on lists due to some cucked up obama leftist "law" that made kids safe from being put on lists due to "?muh blacks being held back" (yes its a real thing. And yes it was meant for black youth)

6: Keep the goverment far away from kids and people in general. Only thing the governent should do is making sure nobody is fucked with and making sure the right laws are being used

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

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Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

Personally, I think full legalization of the consumption of Tide pods needs to happen.
After a couple months there won't be anyone left alive that's fucking dumb enough to eat Tide pods.

Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

Exactly

David Sanchez
David Sanchez

A lot of gun-related fatalities are safety related accidents

no they aren't. accidental/negligent discharges make up about 1.6% of all gun related fatalities.

it's a precautionary measure.

there are 3 safety features on a Beretta M9. an M&P doesn't have 1 of those features and the 2 that they share don't function the same on each pistol. the M44 rifle has no safety features. an AR15 has multiple safety features, none of which it shares with the M9 pistol. how do you propose a standardized safety course?

Carson Thompson
Carson Thompson

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Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

usa would be very empty. the natives would finally get back their land.

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

I don't have any problems at all with legal purchase/owning age being 21; nor with a required training regiment in safety & maintenence along the lines of what we do with vehicles; EXCEPT for the fact that existing gun control legislations already would have prevented several of the recent incidents from ever occurring in the first place had they been properly enforced.
Yet ALL of the talk currently is about introducing new legislations rather than strictly enforcing the existing ones; so even new regulations will eventually fail, leading to demand of even tighter legislations... and so on, and so on.

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

da....uhhhhh.....hmmmmmmm....ahhhhh fuck it! Ban all guns!

Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

Come on now; there aren't THAT many barrel bottom dumb motherfuckers here.
Maybe 50% of the population total.

Logan Howard
Logan Howard

I'm not, I don't make a point to think about this stuff on a daily basis because it's knowledge I've already internalized and hashed out. I know we can't force parents to educate their children in such a way, that we don't have school shootings. Can't take guns away either, not that I want them to, I like my guns. Arming teachers is retarded, these are the same kinds of faggots that draft-dodged using college as an excuse, I don't trust them to safeguard my kids. What to do then? Help sempai.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

Enforce the existing legislations & regulations that would have prevented many of these recent incidents as strictly as they should have been.
This is far more law enforcement & government's fault than it is that of the guns themselves.

Dominic Adams
Dominic Adams

Every single firearm has a basic ass safety, disregarding specialized features, don't deflect trying to argue with arbitrary semantics. My bad, fatalities no but injury is a big yes.

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

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Owen Walker
Owen Walker

an M&P .40 has no safety

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

most people over 21

Nice try, user, but it's not even half the voting public...

Also: If they raise the age of firearms to 21, they will need to raise the legal age of adulthood to 21....

Cannot enter into a legal contract
Cannot purchase porn, cigarettes, or other adult merchandise
Cannot join the military
Parents have legal obligation until 21
Cannot consent to sex with an adult until 21
And the reason they cannot enact this measure (as it's a constitutionally guaranteed RIGHT, and not a PRIVILEGE, and MUST apply equally to all adult citizens)
Cannot VOTE until 21

So you see why that suggestion isn't just ridiculous, but not going to happen...

Julian Walker
Julian Walker

School shooters don't really give a fuck about safeties; nor do the people in "uproar" over them give a fuck about accidental discharges.

Anthony Hill
Anthony Hill

If they raise the age of firearms to 21, they will need to raise the legal age of adulthood to 21
Didn't stop them from jacking up the drinking age.

Leo James
Leo James

LoL stfu bitch you would be out there with the best sign because you're a epic pussy. If you ever heard a gun shot you would piss little panties bitch.

Henry Hall
Henry Hall

The 2nd Amendment does not say "rifles", it does not say "muskets", it does not say "pistols", it does not say "flintlocks", nor does it say "matchlocks", "wheellocks", "shotguns", "blunderbusses", "puckle guns", "pepperbox revolvers", "harmonica guns", "knives", "large swords", "messers", "bardiches", "maces", "mourning stars", "crossbows", "brass knuckles", "saps", "blackjacks", "shields", "sabers", "dueling rapiers" or anything of the sort....

"... the right to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed"

ARMS... As in, ALL KINDS OF WEAPONS...

The Founding Fathers framed the Bill of Rights to fight off any encroaching tyranny from any source and any direction... From religious and expressive tyranny to forceful tyranny to police tyranny, etc...

The 2nd Amendment is NOT about gophers, tin cans, or burglars; it is about GOVERNMENT... THAT is why it is so important, user...

If kids like you would shut up and pick up a goddamned history book instead of using dead children as an excuse to cut class, they'd run the severe risk of actually fucking learning something important...

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Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

Getting shitfaced is not a constitutionally guaranteed right... Quite a bit of difference there...

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Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

You're correct; but it does establish a minimal precedent for something perceived as "dangerous" to be age restricted without altering the entire existing structure for determining adulthood & its rights.
I'm not necessarily saying that it SHOULD be restricted to 21 & up; I think any new legislations on the subject are pointless when enforcement of the existing ones is so lax. They'd fail as well & you'd get a spiral of ever tightening restrictions that'd eventually end in outright bans; which may be the point of nobody talking about the lax enforcement to begin with.

Jeremiah Jenkins
Jeremiah Jenkins

meanwhile in reality

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Jaxson Hill
Jaxson Hill

Every single firearm has a basic ass safety

quite a few sig sauers don't have "basic ass" safeties
same goes for glocks
and mosin nagant rifles have ZERO safety features.
there's a ton of variety in safety features dude.

don't deflect trying to argue with arbitrary semantics.

you're suggesting everyone who wants a gun takes a safety course, semantics are important in that case.

My bad, fatalities no but injury is a big yes.

there are approximately 16,000 incidents of injuries from accidental/negligence discharge. of that ~500 die. there are more than 350 million guns in the US with around 150 million gun owners. while 16,000 isn't an insignificant number, it's statistically insignificant. if the injuries are the primary purpose for this course, then what else do we require additional legislation for? any item which causes injury in less than 1 percent of its users?

Dominic Richardson
Dominic Richardson

Either debate this serious & complicated subject with your vocabulary like an adult, or fuck off back to the kiddie table.

Christian Collins
Christian Collins

Nice try, user, but it's not even half the voting public...

probably why nothing will come of this. doesn't really change his point.

they will need to raise the legal age of adulthood to 21....

explain?

also, slippery slope fallacy. just because you're a puss doesn't mean the world is gonna turn out the way you're scared its gonna.

Wyatt Howard
Wyatt Howard

sorry, i don't fuck on the kiddie table. i know your dad used to fuck on it, but that's more of a inbred cuntservaturd thing.

William Hernandez
William Hernandez

Pure ad hominem ignored.
As I thought, you are bereft of any intelligent points.

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

This is the slow creep of legislation that democrats are banking on. They want the new legislation to fail so they can demand harsher legislation until they can finally ban and confiscate guns outright.

Blake Morales
Blake Morales

you sound like an 18 year old douchebag who thinks he's being witty.

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

holy shit michigans stooped low...

Sebastian Johnson
Sebastian Johnson

The main argument that anti gun people use is guns primary purpose is to kill people. Cars and knives have a different primary purpose.

Eli Flores
Eli Flores

most people, especially when the laws were written recieved training by their parents so they could hunt. if you didnt hunt. you didnt eat.
I did not purchase a firearm until many years of shooting my fathers firearms.

Jacob Perry
Jacob Perry

Not all are either as responsible or have the kind of "old fashioned" sort of good upbringing for this experience.
Personally I don't see requiring basic safety/maintenance training & testing for licensing as the kind of hill to die on in this. At worst it's a minor waste of time for those who've already gotten it.

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

More a "deep state" (or whatever the fuck you want to call it) issue than a R v L, Dem v Repub one.

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

and poor whites in rural areas killing each other over drugs. those two things are the vast majority of murders in this country.

David Cooper
David Cooper

The main argument that anti gun people use is guns primary purpose is to kill people.

and what is the purpose of alcohol? what about animal poison? what is the purpose of a knife? what's the purpose of a cigarette?

you can claim that a guns primary purpose is to injure or kill, but there are plenty of things out there which have no purpose or a similar purpose which kill/injure just as many people as guns do.

if you justify requiring a safety course for guns, you have to justify NOT having a required safety course for those things.

Adam Scott
Adam Scott

shoop da whoop
THIS

John Jackson
John Jackson

Constitution and centuries of precedent pretty much tie libshits' hands when it comes to trying to make gun laws any stricter than they are now. And given that none of their emotional arguments are backed up by facts, they can't even properly argue their cases when challenged.

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Jordan King
Jordan King

this. im in college, I sit with these three girls in one of my classes, two of them sit and joke about other kids in class before class starts, like "hey look at how that guy is sitting" kind of shit, and shit talk how the homosexual teacher dressed that day in the hall afterwords. they were the only two in class today who participated in the walkout.

Levi Adams
Levi Adams

/pol/
/trash/
/out/

OP IS A FAGGOT
OP IS A FAGGOT
OP IS A NIGGERFAGGOT
OP IS A FAGGOT
OP ですです A FAGGOT

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

We get basic safety classes and required assemblies in school. What is D.A.R.E. for 300 Mike?

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

what is the purpose of alcohol?
Get drunk
what about animal poison?
Idk
what is the purpose of a knife?
Knives are one of the most useful tools a person can have and is used for many different things like cutting open food.
what's the purpose of a cigarette?
Relieve anxiety

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

I'm not even liberal and I think your statement is retarded, liberals are pissed because people aren't doing their damn jobs. Complacency is settling into every aspect of our society because of instant gratification, of course it's gonna affect 3 letter agencies eventually. We brought all this on ourselves.

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

We get basic safety classes and required assemblies in school.

with rat poison? how about knives? what was the required safety course for dogs like? how much do you remember from the opiate class?

or are you saying the info that they teach about gun safety in D.A.R.E. isn't good enough?

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

EXACTLY. We need drastic changes in the way government operates. Giving them more money and more responsibilities (i.e. more laws, take massive amounts of guns from people) will be fucked.

Lincoln Ross
Lincoln Ross

Get drunk
to poison yourself in a controlled manner

Idk
to kill

Knives are one of the most useful tools a person can have and is used for many different things like cutting open food.
to cut

Relieve anxiety
to poison you in a controlled manner

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

No one cares about your guns americuck

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Ayden Diaz
Ayden Diaz

Parents are supposed to be enforcing the teaching of right and wrong, yet aren't. I'm just saying that at least schools make an effort, it doesn't replace proper parenting.

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

americucks do

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

Libs are MEANT to be "that" side of this particular debate. You should be worrying about the number of Conservatives slowing giving inches of their ground away in this debate; they'll eventually turn into feet as this issue becomes increasingly poisonous to people's political careers.
They'll meet with them in a middle that's farther to the left than you'd like, yet no so far as to cause any open protest or rebellion over it; then do that again, and again, and again in the next decade or two.
Both sides work for the same fucking masters, my friend.

Carter Flores
Carter Flores

Unrelated; but cigarettes relieve only the anxiety caused by not having had a cigarette recently.

Parker Brown
Parker Brown

the convo was about enforcing a rule which requires potential gun buyers to take a mandatory safety course, not whether parents are parenting right. try and keep up.

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

This country's founders did; and people who see the slow creeping of a totalitarian state they'd be completely powerless to do anything against without them do as well.
We're still massively outmatched hardwarewise with them; but that's still better than completely defenseless.

Mason Morgan
Mason Morgan

try and keep up
it's try to keep up.

Julian White
Julian White

I’m not a smoker but the main purpose of a cigarette is to look cool and say your name is Bond James Bond.

Ian Bell
Ian Bell

Kek they're far too fucking expensive as a habit for that shit.

Nolan Roberts
Nolan Roberts

They should. At the very least, they should be able to confidently break down, clean and fire a weapon before they are permitted to own one. This is also why I think military service should have always been mandatory for a minimum of 4 years.

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Hunter Parker
Hunter Parker

no. try as in put effort into the conversation
keep up as in keep pace with the conversation

okay fine I just fucked the saying up.

Thomas Gutierrez
Thomas Gutierrez

I'm just gonna choose to ignore the collectivist cockamamie in that post.

They should. At the very least, they should be able to confidently break down, clean and fire a weapon before they are permitted to own one.

and what purpose would you hope that would serve?

William Bennett
William Bennett

Yet there are some people that buy packs every day

Isaac White
Isaac White

You europeans make me sick

Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

They don't do it for any kind of look or whatever, though; they do it because of addiction.
The slightly more intelligent make their own instead of paying so much.

Jonathan Howard
Jonathan Howard

what purpose would you hope that would serve
Similar purposes to those we make drivers go through training & testing for. Really no logical arguments against making sure people know how to safely use & care for their shit.

Juan Peterson
Juan Peterson

Both psychological and physical addictions are a bitch. I can’t live without chapstick.

Aiden Lewis
Aiden Lewis

Similar purposes to those we make drivers go through training & testing for.

except there is an order of magnitude in difference between why a diver needs a safety course and why you could justify a gun owner needing comprehensive courses. additionally, you don't actually HAVE to have a open water cert to SCUBA dive, it's just that most divemasters won't take you without one.

Really no logical arguments against making sure people know how to safely use & care for their shit.

less than .001% of gun owners significantly injure themselves with their guns. it seems that whatever resources gun owners use to familiarize themselves with their weapons is working. why add additional regulations because "there's really no logical arguments against" it?

Joseph Parker
Joseph Parker

Thanks for the assist user, I'm trying to cook ribs right now too. So, this.

Owen Collins
Owen Collins

It may in fact deter some people from purchasing, which is the point. If it's too much trouble, they usually don't bother.

Carter Brown
Carter Brown

fuck, I read drivers as divers, my bad.

i'm going to bed. been fun talking with you fags.

Joseph Gutierrez
Joseph Gutierrez

I did say dRivers. As in cars.
The purpose there being so you don't hurt or kill yourself or someone else.
why add additional regulations because "there's really no logical arguments against" it?
It's truly one of the least invasive ideas I've heard lately in this debate; and there's bigger hills to die on in this fight. It's an easy one to give ground over.

Asher Rogers
Asher Rogers

No worries all around.

Isaac King
Isaac King

so you don't hurt or kill yourself or someone else
In the case of guns; accidentally, of course.

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