Anyone else think that Nicole girl's story doesn't add up?

Anyone else think that Nicole girl's story doesn't add up?

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Yup. Jesse should have called her bluff instead of folding like an idiot. Now his name and band is tarnished without her even have to release anything.

What actual evidence is there of anything actually happening? I'm not completely in the loop. Screenshots or anything? Anyone can say shit about anyone. Could just be an attention whore defaming him.

He caved and did the whole "muh past akshuns are bad pls forgive" routine.
He should have told those sluts to shove it.

Also is anyone still talking about the Crystal Casles thing? Or did the guy's filing of a defamation lawsuit just totally kill Alice's side of it in public perception?

The accuser claims she has screen shots of Jesse masturbating on skype but can't produce the photos

The only "Proof" she's posted what that she had his e-mail address. She got super pissed when people saw her IG and the way she was bragging about fucking dudes in bands like a game with her and her friends

Some user posted this in another thread. Turns out he's innocent.
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I got you senpai.

But DESU Her timeline is all fucked.
But she refuses to timestamp so this could very well be after she was 18. (She said nothing physical until she was 19.

if i was forty and some bitch said she had screen shots of me getting nudes from minors twenty years previous i might be more inclined to believe her than risk trusting my memory. but i would probably remember getting nudes.

i strongly doubt that's a fifteen year old. looks of age imo

lol fucking Sup Forums word filters

That's what I was thinking, and why wouldn't she post the "date created" on the file, I know that shit can be faked but she doesn't seem that savvy to me.

she looks at least 18 for sure

Yeah, he should have stood his ground because now he does look guilty of whatever. Well I hope the truth prevails, he might be able to use this shitstorm as a source of inspiration for material.

it adds an interesting layer to what i was saying here because if i was jesse id be like, wait, WAS she fifteen when i was pulling my pecker on cam? that was over a decade ago! but thats assuming he didnt do any fact checking

>her face
Yep, she looks disturbed and terrified here.

Yeah what a poor victim.

Folks, guys, I'm gonna let you in on a secret here. It's because he is guilty and knows it.

What he's allegedly guilty of isn't even an issue to me, I still think he should have told those sluts to shove it.

He was a pussy-starved young man and took what he could get. He's only got himself to blame.

i fucking hate this guy who cares
imagine how much teen scene pussy he slayed around the time your favorite weapon came out tho. wew lad.

Taking the puss you're offered is nothing to be ashamed of.

>WHEN MY DICK APPEARS DO YOU FEAR FOR THE PICTURE I TOOK?

It is when its underage, which is the issue here. Nobody would've cared if he was fucking and leading on girls in their mid-20's. That's regular rockstar shit.

He never admitted to fucking with minors, I think he probably got all flustered and posted that dumbass apology

lol nice have you just been sitting there crafting that for the last 10 minutes

She must have felt like it was such a horrible thing when she felt herself getting wet through her clothes.

it needs workshopping a bit but I feel like I'm getting somewhere here

Women smile and laugh when they feel uncomfortable to try to escape the situation

underage puss is regular rockstar shit too.
She was 15, that's less than a year underage in non-retard areas, and over age in other places. The moral panic here is retarded because the subjectivity is so broad and only based on arbitrary government decisions.
It's not like she was 9.

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an uncomfortable smile does not look like that

>try to escape the situation
SHE'S ON A FUCKING COMPUTER RETARD

There’s a moral panic because a mid-20s rockstar was trying to bone a pubescent girl you retard

>underage puss is regular rockstar shit too.
in the 70s, maybe

Holy shit. I mean, this is one person against the other person that's already being believed by most people. So the odds of these claims making any impact are smaller than I'd like. But holy shit.

Also remember that isanyoneup was a REVENGE PORN site. To me that kinda draws motive into question.

lmao

This, you can't tell me she can set up a video chat but can't find the X button

Have you ever thought that maybe she felt like dhe couldn’t escape because Jesse was a controlling psychopath?

And why is that bad?

I should've rephrased "than I'd like". Probably should have just left it at "...impact are small."

Didn't even catch that watermark, good call

>Jesse Lacey is so powerful that he can prevent people from closing skype calls once he pulls his dick out
He has to be stopped

it would be really fun to destroy tylers social media with spam and trolls. just absolutely brigade his accounts with endless spam bots. that way he would put his walk away philosophy into motion and stop making stupid tweets like this one

No, because I don't have expectations that insultingly low.
You must think she's so retarded she has to wear a diaper.

this

Because 15 year old girls are not emotionally mature enough to have a sexual or romantic relationship. We value emotional maturity in romantic relationships because it creates the most stable environment for reproduction. This is because people who are emotionally mature are less likely to act irrationally to adversity. Additionally, sexual relationships create an emotional bond between people. Emotionally immature people will be more affected by changes in a relationship if they have established sexual relations with the person they are in a relationship with. This means they are more susceptible to coercion and manipulation. Biologically speaking, there is a greater chance for premature birth, low birth weight, and birth complications to younger women when they give birth. Younger women are generally in a worse position to support children, especially when the father is not present in the child’s life. This is relevant because the primary role of sex is reproduction.

It’s immoral because it’s taking advantage of someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing and makes an unhealthy situation for potential offspring.

High school girls are consistently the biggest retards I’ve ever metro

Brand Poo fans & pedos btfo

>Because 15 year old girls are not emotionally mature enough to have a sexual or romantic relationship
Then why are they all having more sexual relationships than you will ever have in your entire life lmao

>wall of fucking text just to say "teenagers are retarded unlike men in their 20s"
Retards come in all ages m8, it's not really an excuse to assume a 15 doesn't know what sex is.

No miracles today
they're puttin jesse away

she's still a whore, knew what she was doing

You asked why it’s a problem, so I gave you the moral argument against it.
>Retards come in all ages m8, it's not really an excuse to assume a 15 doesn't know what sex is
That’s not what I said. I said 15 year olds don’t know how to have sex in a responsible manner, and that a 24 year old should know that 15 year olds are full of hormones that throw off rational thought. The girl knew what she was doing in the sense that she knew the sexual aspects of the relationship but misinterpreted the importance of their relationship; Jesse knew full well that she was going to be easy to convince because she’s in high school.
Probably a troll, but see above.

>15 year olds don’t know how to have sex in a responsible manner, and that a 24 year old should know
Says who? 20 somethings are always getting into shit flinging contests over sex, there isn't really anything rational about sex in general.

>she knew the sexual aspects of the relationship but misinterpreted the importance of their relationship; Jesse knew full well that she was going to be easy to convince because she’s in high school.
You're just making assumptions now.

>there isn't really anything rational about sex in general.
DUDE JUST GO FULL DEGENERATE HAHA WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG THERES NO RULES ANYWAY

Sex is jamming your pee holes together because you get a funny sensation in your pants that you can't ignore. It's not rational.
People do it, then become possessive, and get into fights with other people about it.
This happens at all ages.
15 years olds are doing this right now
50 years olds are doing this right now.
We could go back to the days of everyone getting married off at 16, and divorce being illegal to avoid this.
To pretend that a 24 year old is any more rational or mature about sex than a 15 year old isn't really based in reason, just the assumption that older = wiser. But wise rarely plays into sex, it's more often than not just smash and grab what you can get.

All of this just reinforces my habit of separating art from creator, although that seems to be more popular in media other than music judging by how people flip their shit over musical scandals.

That said, doesn't the knowledge that the singer constantly behind countless songs calling for his own death and failing to find any significant redemption in life was actually a person with horrible flaws lend credence to the message in most of Brand New's discography?

20-somethings are generally out of puberty and don’t have the crazy hormone imbalances teenagers have. I agree that there’s a lot of people that aren’t mature, but that’s because of a society that values cheap, easy, no-strings-attached sex that tries to take the emotional aspect out of sex, even though it can’t. Sex would fucking suck if there was no emotional aspect.
>20-somethings are always getting into shit flinging contests over sex
Are the contests over the actual act of having sex or outside aspects like cheating? For teenagers the crux is the act itself, while people who realize sex isn’t the end-all be-all of human existence generally argue over other aspects of sex.
>there isn't really anything rational about sex in general
Good to know you don’t think the survival of the species isn’t rational.
>You're just making assumptions now.
Assumptions based off the tendency for high school girls to not think things through and his own lyrics that basically confess that to being a manipulative jerk. The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot is about taking blame meant for you and twisting it so that the person who blames you blames themselves. The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows is about infidelity. Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis is a song about fucking drunk girls and justifying it with “Who will cast the first stone?” He’s not been shy about his ability to deceive.

>Good to know you don’t think the survival of the species isn’t rational.
It's not, it's instinct.

>Assumptions based off the tendency for high school girls to not think things through and his own lyrics that basically confess that to being a manipulative jerk.
Yes, those kinds of assumptions.

>It's not, it's instinct
Or could it be both? I don’t see why the two would be mutually exclusive. I mean, we have a natural instinct to fear the dark, but by the time we’re 10 or so we outgrow it because it’s irrational.

>those kinds of assumptions
Assumptions justified by biology and evidence that provides a window into the mind of the accused. Her description of his acts line up with the qualities expressed in his lyrics. I don’t have proof that he indeed committed corruption of a minor, and there hasn’t been a full-scale investigation into this, so not all the facts are out there. If he were on trial in a court of law, I’d have no problem with the jury acquitting him. This isn’t a court of law though, and I think the girl’s report is credible enough to be damning.

i guess, but we got to this point through instinct, animals only go on instinct. We get horny, so we fuck, then out comes a kid. It's the whole reason horniness exists, we wouldn't need it if we had the intellectual desire to procreate from the get go.
Trying to rationalize furthering the human race is difficult.
>We need the species to survive
>why?
What's the answer? I don't think anyone has ever come up with one, it's basically in line with "what's the meaning of life?"

>Her description of his acts line up with the qualities expressed in his lyrics.
Or maybe his lyrics were fantasy, and she used them as a basis for her accusations to easily manipulate retards like you into believing the lyrics are evidence or some kind of admission of something.

>Or maybe his lyrics were fantasy, and she used them as a basis for her accusations
Galaxy Brain over here

I really don't think he'd care. I think he's more self aware than a lot of celebrities.

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do you have link to the original post?

We select our mates based on qualities that we can rationalize, like education, income, status, etc. Unless, of course, you can’t control yourself and knock up a girl when you’re young and unprepared for parenthood.
>Trying to rationalize furthering the human race is difficult
Are you an agnostic, atheist, or nihilist by any chance? Based on some of your other answers, this is where we’re ultimately going to never agree because of ideological differences.
He tended to draw from his personal life a lot, especially toward the beginning of his career. A majority of the songs on Your Favorite Weapon came from the relationship that ended when the guy from Taking Back Sunday banged his girlfriend. Okay I Believe You, But My Tommy Gun Don’t is also inspired by this event. Guernica was about Jesse not being able to be near his grandfather before he died. If I Ever Need... is about the struggles they had with their label. While some artists will just write songs that aren’t really connected to their life (think early Kate Bush), Jesse hasn’t been the type to do that.

>education, income, status
education and income all fall under status, and judging status is a intuition thing more or less, and more of a woman thing.
Guy is taller, stronger, brings more food to the tribe, and is revered for all that = I will bear his seed, because his children will be like him.
Animals do the same thing, it's not as intellectual as we make out these days.

>He tended to draw from his personal life a lot
It's still just assumptions, pointless arguing this shit, they're just song lyrics.

no i got that screen grab from a BN FB Fangroup

this has already been discussed plenty of times. these screenshots are from a completely different incident, unrelated to the nicole who posted the story on fb, and both individuals involved in it are consenting and of age to consent. plus, these images are from years ago and i've heard some people say that at the time it was debunked that the dude in them is even jesse

lmao

>Jesse should have called her bluff instead of folding like an idiot.
That means he's got a guilty conscience.
That means he did it.

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Nah, he just wants the tortured artist appeal

Page should have known better.
No excuses.

The problem is not consent here or even the exploitation of teenage inexperienced obsession.
It's the potential side effects that the conduct has on the malleable mind of the teen. Their minds are in a stage of neural plasticity.
Whatever psychological effects sex has a person is greatly exaggerated in children.

>by admitting to exposing himself indecently to a woman

Wow so tortured.
What a fucking idiot.

>Having desires that are considered a no-no
How is that not tortured?

>Page should have known better
M8 his daddy's generation were getting married and lieing about their age to get into the army at 14.
There were no meme scientists on the internet telling people that 14 year old were retarded

People have a lifestyle they want to lead and they choose their mates accordingly. It seems pretty rational to me; women mate with short guys too.

I guess the argument over the lyrics is just gonna be repetitive. I think there’s a solid case in them, though.
pic related

>Whatever psychological effects sex has a person is greatly exaggerated in children
So good sex would make a 14 year old cum even harder?

Also neural plasticity doesn't stop at a certain age.

>I think there’s a solid case in them, though.
Yeah well, that's cause you're dumb.

>Yeah well, that’s cause you’re dumb
Yeah well, that’s cause you’re incredibly close minded.

>believing your own stupid theory proves guilt when there are a million other equally retarded theories that you ignore
m8 you're the close minded one.

look just make EVERY LIVE SHOW 18+
all this shit would stop.

>fake id
>lie about age to band
>fuck band
>claim victimhood

thats the girls fault not the band. every one of these threads makes the claim under 18 yr olds are legit dumbasses who don't know anything. so just ban all under 18's from concerts.

>The girl could've stopped talking to him at any time
>Could've stopped camming at any time
>Could've told someone
But no she wanted to ruin someones life instead

I explicitly said it doesn’t prove guilt you illiterate faggot, I said it’s reasonable to say that a musician was inspired by things that happened in his life and reflected these experiences in his music. You’re assuming that the songs that show a darker side to Lacey are works of fantasy, which hasn’t been Lacey’s tendency not the tendency of most artists. I’m perfectly open to other theories, I just think the one I have is the most likely. Yes, you are the one being close minded, because you can’t possibly conceive that maybe, just maybe Jesse Lacey is an asshole. He admitted that he was one in his statement, so I guess it doesn’t make that much of a difference, does it?

>But no she wanted to ruin someones life instead
nah she didn't want to. she enjoyed the time with him in the beginning. but jesse fapped n dumped her while probably promising to be with her "forever". so like all women she got pissed off. look at her life now
shes a bi-polar single mom with a shit life. these recent metoo shit gave her an opportunity to finally gain some power in her shit life. but realistically in a month from now. nobody will care
jesse will still be a rich rock star and she'll still be a loser single mom.

>implying jacking off on skype is even something notable let alone career ending
Lmao fucking numale music

>Having desires that are considered a no-no
>not being a giant douche who can't control his weiner.
>on borderline under-age people

kek

>Also neural plasticity doesn't stop at a certain age.
It decreases significantly.

A kitten brought up in a room of vertically black and white lines eventually cannot see them when taken out of the room.

happened to the guitarist from new found Glory too.

Plus the Neck Deep guitarist has accusations against him that were found out to be false but they still kicked him out of the band.