Has anyone of you transformed from a virgin to a guy who is kinda decent with women?

has anyone of you transformed from a virgin to a guy who is kinda decent with women?

If yes, how did you do it?
What changes did you make to your lifestyle?

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>What changes did you make

Basically ignore them. Confidence in myself. They show up.

OP here, did I just get 2 dubs and one trips in a row? WTF?

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>Basically ignore them. Confidence in myself. They show up.

Well, you still have to be around women for that. Do you go out clubbing, or are you in school/college?

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I lowered my standards to some degree for starters and stopped picturing a relationship with every girl i was attracted to. started working out abit and eating healthier. Girls especially girls you know notice immediately once you start making positive life choices.

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Yes. A career that they know pays fairly well is all it took.

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oh whenever i was alone with girls i was always afraid to make a move i over thought it constantly all the consequences that might occur. once i started going fuck it and making the first move things just started working out for me. Trust me just do it once and your confidence will go up 1000%

>Well, you still have to be around women for that.

It turns out they're half the population. They're around all the time.

>Do you go out clubbing, or are you in school/college?

I live and breath in the world. They seek me out. The difficulty is in turning away the psychopaths looking for a meal.

The circle of life:

>be social awkward virgin
>find a niche, get laid
>niche leads to more ass on regular basis with multiple women
>settle down, get married
>become virgin again

Moral to this story, don't get married, keep making money and getting consistent ass

Gym, antidepressants, volunteering, unfortunately it helps to think you're better than them. Know your value. If you are not valuable then work on that

Go to a gym. Get a good job. Learn to be good at socializing in general. Where decent clothes. Stay in the know of current events. Learn from failure, dont be scared of making mistakes. Everything in this world is trial and error.

Correcting myself, *wear

I just read a lot of books and watched a lot of films and worked on my writing and socialised/dated every once in a while, taking notes on what went right and/or wrong. I just sort of became good with people eventually.

A lot of people assume they're introverted and don't realize that what has actually happened is that they fell behind the socialization curve and never caught up. As such a long and painful process of getting out there and allowing yourself to learn through trial and error is the only way someone like that is going to get the experience everyone else has to be reasonably sociable.

It's actually less of a lifestyle change and more of an attitude and outlook on life change. Most men can get laid, the issue is that they can't get laid by the women they want more often than not.

I'd second this.

I think those few hyper nervous minutes where you're trying to push yourself to make a move is the only main obstacle keeping most guys with this problem from overcoming it.

Be realistic about who you go after in general, then maybe aim a little higher than you think you should.

Also, stop caring so much in general about what other people think. Anybody who shit's on you for making a move is weak and petty. Keep your pride and have some confidence and just start saying fuck it.

So I lost my virginity at 18 to my gf.
We broke up and I had a hard timem but found another gf through a friend of mine.
At that time I looked like shit.
After 5 years of a relationship I broke up and landed at Sup Forums again.
Well, I still looked like shit.

I downloaded tinder, lovoo etc. and started by changing my hairstyle and the way I clothed.
That changed A LOT!
Girls started to gain interest in me. I explored, that I managed to bring girls in the comfy zone when they're with me and they fall in love really quick with me, because I combine the gentlemen-behaviour of a fat neckbeard virgin furry loving faggot with a decent looking man.
Since then I'm the born fuckboy...sorta...

pic related. only 1 year difference.

tl;dr
> change haircut
> grow a beard
> get your shit together
> and oh yeah, I bought me expensive BMW, maybe that helped a bit

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I'll add to this that I think it gets easier with age. around 20 I would have been really nervous. Around 30 now this is way less of a concern for me. If 30 y/o me wanted to give 20 y/o me advice on this topic, that would be it.

Just try starting convos with women you barely know, get to know them, start to be better friends, after about 3 weeks or a month ask them out

Yes, street pick up.
Approached hundreds of women in the street.
Got insta-laid twice (from the street to the bed the same day)
Pick up can be a never ending black hole, gotta be careful
Now i'm in a relationship, and my daughter has just been born 10 days ago. I can't sleep because she is confusing the day with the night, that little monster.
But yeah, approach, approach, approach.
Getting rejected gets you closer to your goal.
It's not a number's game, it's a skill game. Which you learn by approaching.
The community is full of crazy guys, but I've made solid aquaintances. It's way harder to do alone, although quite possible.

It's just about self-confidence, you troglodyte.

>Go to a gym.
I presume to become fit? Or to interact with women. Because I'm already pretty fit - not like model ottermode, but not hideous either.

>Get a good job.
I had a decent job for the last 3 years.
Work, computer, sleep, repeat. A job is not the solution. It's what you do in your time off the job, I think.

>Learn to be good at socializing in general.
That's the main problem I guess.

>Wear decent clothes.
I do.

>Stay in the know of current events.
I do.

>Learn from failure, dont be scared of making mistakes. Everything in this world is trial and error.

Honestly I think my main problem is interacting with people in general. I just don't like people enough to go out and make conversation.

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for a while I transformed from a beta virgin to a cocky beta doing a bad impression of a confident person, and the worst part is that it somewhat worked because every once in a while I'd find a woman that couldn't tell the difference between cocky and confident, or maybe just didn't care because she was as desperate as me, and we'd end up together

The gringe

Started showering and generally stopped looking like a hobo.

I went from the a super socially awkward guy to extraverted funny guy in about half a year. The only thing I would do, at night, right before sleeping, pass through every events of the day, and tell yourself "what would a better way of handling it would've been?".

After 6-7, times that you tell yourself I should've said that instead of that, you'll say the right thing. What you want to become is up to you at that point.

Word of advice, don't get emotional while remembering the day, if you do you'll just loose the effect it has and you'll have trouble sleeping, believe me on that.

And to attract women specially don't be a fat kissless virgin (neckbeard fedora wearing mother fucker). As for muscles, it depends on what you want, relationship - don't need them so much unless you go for a sports loving girl, for fucking has much as you can, it goes in easy mode with muscles

Stopped playing video games and watching anime. Picked up real hobbies which became tolics of conversation when I would go out to meet women.

When I was like 17 years old I mentioned a girl being out of my league and my Dad replied "user, don't decide for them that they're not going to fuck you, make them decide." Best advice I've ever gotten.

I'm a solid 6.5 on a good day but I'm not afraid to talk to a girl. I've had some 8's maybe even some borderline 9's.

That's it user, that's all it takes, just don't be a pussy, talk to them and don't be afraid to ask for what you want.

>Picked up real hobbies which became tolics of conversation when I would go out to meet women.

How?
How do hobbies become topics of conversation?

I think this is the biggest myth out there.
Let's say I start painting as a hobby. Do I really improve my chances by talking to people about the shit I paint or about my adventures in acquiring the necessary equipment for painting.

Or I pick up an instrument as a hobby.
>So, I'm learning how to play "halleluja" on the guitar.
>Really, that's nice

That's a 2 minutes conversation at best. And that's when they humour you and ask a few questions about how you started and how long you been doing it.

I transformed from a virgin guy into a trap with a harem. It's literally as easy as being a trap who is a top and looking somewhat cute.

You use it to branch off into other topics of conversation and they say thing about a person. A person who sky dives or rock climbs is active and exciting while the video game anime watcher sits on their ass staring at a screen .

This. Be friendly but ignore them. Focus on you. I adopted the "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Work out a little and gett that test up. As long as you aren't a disgusting fuck you should be good. I was so close to becoming a full on weeb. Had a chad as fuck step brother that kept me from being a faggot.

I'll be honest. There's bullshit myths and truths and I guess it's different for every guy. I'm semi attractive, my best advice is to just get girls talking about themselves, they love a guy who seems to have a genuine interest with what they have to say. I personally struggle to show emotions, so I use my dry sense of humour to make a girl laugh by saying something that shouldn't be said as a joke. And they kinda think they can break that she'll, then if you find them boring play the short game take them to yours and fuck, or if you think you want more trade numbers and fuck at a later date. Easy as pie if you have a formula of sorts.

You don't say anything about yourself. Ask questions about them. Girls in the beginning only want to talk about themselves. When they start asking questions back you're golden.

So if a anime watching basement dweller started rockclimbing and skydiving he would become a good conversationalist?

I call bullshit on that.

There are people out there who somehow make the most normal, boring shit interesting when telling about it.
And then there are people who travel the world and only bore everybody do death with their stories about what they did in foreign countries.

It's not rocket surgery my guy.

Fuck! Check'd

I used to be like that too.

>Go to a gym.
Not just to be fit, when I exercise regularily, my mind feels clearer, and when I stop, I become lazy and depressed.

>Get a good job.
Girls are attracted to men who have their shit together.

Sleep alot, eat well, masturbate less (increases interest in women, instead of just being in need of sex, also more self-control and more energy).

Less computer. (it exhausts your brain)

For your behavior, moderate, moderate and moderate. Dont be a douchebag but dont be a beta either.

Have a spine. Don't be afraid to talk about yourself, even the boring stuff, but dont be that guy who unloads all his life in a one way conversation.

Eye-contact is key. Women love when you give them your attention, it makes them feel valued.

Personnal experience: When I met my girlfriend, she seemed way out of my league, so I started talking to her just for fun, to see how far I could go before she rejected me. She didn't. The most important: I talked to her the next day, then the next. Don't wait.

Approach a girl like you would a wild animal. Advance gently, let it know you are not a threat but be confident, don't show fear.

Learn to smile and wink.

Take dancing classes.

Learn to sing a love song.

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Ask questions only. If the girl is into you she will ask questions back. If not ignore her. Stay out of the friend zone. Think higher of yourself than the pussy.

No I'm assuming you're not a moron who can't engage in a conversation with others. If that is wrong then no, hobbies won't turn everything around. If you can't do the most basic of human interaction then you need to grow up a bit before attempting to sleep with someone.

Hobbies and lifting are for your own self help. Don't be the douche that talks about himself all the time. Bring it up in passing or if someone asks.

Never act desperate. Ever. Play everything cool, even if you're not.

Don't talk about retarded shit women don't give a crap about. Unless you're absolutely confident they like that kind of shit. e.g. don't talk about your fucking MTG collection unless you're talking to a known Magic player, you goddamn idiot.

Pay attention to them. Ask them shit.

Most importantly, though: Be POSITIVE. Say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEGATIVE. If you're trying to bed the girl, that is.

Aside from the above, other people have suggested good things too.

tru story user, 46 year old fag here... living mgtow my entire life and never knew it, never married no kids, been in love 4 or 5 times fucked more women than I can remember plus fuck whores too... look at my married friends they're worn out, prematurely aged never take vacations their lives suck... that's all i got.

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We'll I was a virgin till last summer. Now I have 2 bitches under my belt. Be opinionated without being a massive cocksucker. Dudes get this wrong by overplaying the confidence card. Be confident, not an all powerful piece of shit. I watch dudes do this all of the time and it's fucking cringey as hell. Don't be afraid to admit when you're wrong. Ask bitches follow up questions, even if you don't care, bitches love talking about their shit especially if its a dude that seems to be half interested. Don't be flirty unless you've interacted with said female a few times before. Girls will always find you creepy if you hit on them with no previous rapport. Unless ofcourse you're a golden God Chad but even then, those aren't the kinds of chick's you'd want. Idk theres my 2 cents.

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yes, by practicing. start with daing girls you aren't actually into and you'll learn how to treat women in a way that they'll get interested in you

Not from a virgin, but my wife and I have had threeways with more women than I've been with before her

This is oddly helpful. I hooked up with a fat girls. She was so fucking nervous because apparently I'm cute as hell and look like evan Peter's from American horror story. Bitch stays chronically wet.

My thoughts exactly

yeah what weak douche, sexual women are repelled by weak femininity in men...

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And the weird thing is, once you start dating someone, anyone, it gives you the confidence to talk to other girls. Mainly because you are with someone, you have more of a "i don't give a shit about you" attitude towards them and that attracts them more.

Lost weight , learned how to dress good and good confident by that. Be just the right amount of asshole.

yeah fat girls will let you do anything, throat fuck them, make them eat your ass etc, cuz they never see enough attention from men. Essentially they are the female representation of most of the autistic male virgins on this site...reeeeeeeee

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nigger i aint readin this whole thread but listen up:

look decent
gym
job
haircut
clothes
bathe, too, duh

Stop watching porn
find a hobby that isnt the goddamn idiot box, I race motorcycles
go outside, or get a hobby where women are.
interact with people, anyone, treat them all the same, i.e. not a fuck target
you will eventually get better at being social, it's a skill
manage to not fuck it up long enough to get one alone
dont drop the spaghetti

abundance mentality

this, the Supreme gentleman knows.

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Yes, the only way to get decent with women imo is to practice. Get tinder and try to bang as many bitches as you can. You´ll see that sex isn´t that huge of a deal and you´ll be able to be more relaxed about it and girls see that.

>Hmm, I found who was behind of it...

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You don't have someone who shared your life with you. You don't have a family.

yeah, you looked like an autist on left pic

families are overrated, boring and expensive

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Say no. Ignore them. Make them want you. Don't message them. Ever. Fuck bitches, get money. Be the douchebag you don't wanna be. If you want to do anything, simply don't. Wait like a week, then make a move of some kind. Don't be a cuck.

Pic related: It's what I did to get this fine lady.

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That is only in poor fag countries. In modern countries where money is plenty this is not the case.

I am loaded and the girls aint here...

You need to leave the basement son.

Family is the pillar of society. You know, the thing we would have if we weren't infested with hedonistic nihilists like you.

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>ignore women my whole life
>not attractive enough for them to care
This is shit advice and circumstantial.

Literally just don’t be a sperg... you don’t have to be fit. Wear nice clothes and expensive cologne examples are dkny, higher dior and assert confidence.

Be nice but don’t over do it. A white button up with nice slacks and loafers tells women that you have a good job and get paid well. I have had women see me in an entirely different outlook even though I am a bit chubby you are a man so they don’t care.

I am married too so kind of sucks wish I fucked more women before that, but there really isn’t much stopping me for getting some different puss right?

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>>ignore women my whole life
>>not attractive enough for them to care
>This is shit advice and circumstantial.


>Say no. Ignore them. Make them want you. Don't message them. Ever. Fuck bitches, get money. Be the douchebag you don't wanna be. If you want to do anything, simply don't. Wait like a week, then make a move of some kind. Don't be a cuck.
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>Pic related: It's what I did to get this fine lady.


I look like ass and scored that by being everything I hated in today's society of men. You know; big douchebag, invalidates her feelings, doesn't care about her petty drama bullshit, refuse to start her car for her.. etc. I'm 240, 6', and 24 with a neckbeard. She's 120, 5'6", and 18. Also, I'm pretty sure she's a virgin too.

Got confidence. Stopped giving a fuck what they thought. Wasn't afraid of rejection. Realized I'm fucking awesome.

So basically, do as the king of the jungle does, except it doesn't work in concrete jungles because then it ultimately becomes a circle of fail because females don't share.

Yeah, confidence is definitely key. Also showing her that you're interested (eye contact, break the touch barrier, etc) is extremely helpful. Never be afraid to talk about yourself as well, usually there's at least one thing y'all will have in common; if not, then find another girl or start up a new hobby together. Good luck user

I became bigger faster stronger smarter and more violent.

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Evolution, all directly attributable to my use of cannabis.

Confidence and money. I am fat, was autist. Bought a Porsche and expensive clothes and watches etc. now bitches fuck me. No longer autist because getting laid led to confidence.

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Yes, go bang a few hookers 2-3 to gain your sexual confidence. Then you'll realize women are nothing to be scared of, and it's easier to talk to them. Also mix it up with the hookers. 1 MILF, one your age, etc.

the fuck you talking about faggot? You got 3x 0's thats trips, nothing else

Transformed?

I'm not a fucking vampire or robot in one of your stupid pony movies dipshit summerqueer.

That's a pretty autistic line to tell the cunt to fuck off on. Just tell him to fuck off. Beta

Just learn how to be a Man. Watch manly men in movies - and not Clint Eastwood type men - men like Cary Grant.

Learn how to be witty. How to clean yourself up. Learn how to fuck a woman properly.

Learn how to cook. Learn what good wine is. Learn some history and politics.

Get a good job, make some money and buy your own shit. Manage your own affairs so that your life is not a mess or in constant turmoil.

That is how you become a Man, my son.

How dumb can you really be, I wonder? The first three posts are all me, bumping the thread you half-breed.

>changing everything about you just to be able to pound some pussy
That shit is sad, undermines yourself and gives off as you not having self respect
Granted the "just be yourself" advice girls give is the worst advice you can follow. You have to sort of meet it halfway
Also first approach you do that goes successful, even if you only get a number, skyrockets your confidence and makes it so much easier