I'm muslim.Try your hardest to prove me Allah is not the true God

Sebastian Butler
Sebastian Butler

I'm muslim.Try your hardest to prove me Allah is not the true God.

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telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7986528/Muslims-will-become-majority-in-Europe-senior-Vatican-official-warns.html
i.4cdn.org/tv/1521415045136.webm
wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/
russell.mcmaster.ca/cpbr11p69.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=F-LhfKKgncg

Nolan Murphy
Nolan Murphy

Allah is the fake god.

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

Same thread every fucking day. Even on Sup Forums you are a fucking parasite.

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

not an argument

Zachary James
Zachary James

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William White
William White

Okay; I have a question for OP. Is Allah omniscient? (all-knowing). Such as; he knows every that ever has happened, everything that is currently hapapening, and everything that ever will happen.

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

If god was real then why would he allow things like this to happen?

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Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson

yes

Jeremiah Hughes
Jeremiah Hughes

Because it's a poor quality thread you need to self bump. No one cares about your most hated desert cult faith. Now go kiss the floor somewhere else you rapist mongrels.

Leo Cox
Leo Cox

more people aren't muslim than are muslim

/thread

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

That looks like a good meal, stupid.

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

u mad because you can't prove Allah doesn't exist

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

islam is the fastest growing religion and will dominate the world soon

Aiden Roberts
Aiden Roberts

you can't prove he does, gay as hell be he

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

according to an anonymous shitposter

kek

Kevin Jackson
Kevin Jackson

I challenge you to identify what all the food items in that picture actually are.

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Hudson Ramirez
Hudson Ramirez

Because all abrahamic religions are the same.

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Levi Thomas
Levi Thomas

Nah m8, you've already established yourself as a gullible crackpot for believing in a god, you're a lost cause.

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

there prob is no god period but do you honestly think if there was a god he would be muslim? Do muslims seem like they are winning at anything?
Like out of all the bad shit muslims do through out the world do you honestly sit there and say "yep that allah he is deff the one"
islam needs to die

Easton Cook
Easton Cook

This is only going to swing with me telling you he isn't true go to you telling me he is.

You can barely construct a good answer to start a thread asking such a thing.

Poor quality bait thread OP.

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

what are you unable to identify in that picture dullbulb?

Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez

faggot
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7986528/Muslims-will-become-majority-in-Europe-senior-Vatican-official-warns.html

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

friendly reminder that muslims believe allah didn't have an anus, she never pooped, he never peed

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

i.4cdn.org/tv/1521415045136.webm

Jose Anderson
Jose Anderson

Okay. So therefore at the moment of your creation (or indeed from the beginning of time) he's known that you would be born, live, and die.
He's known every single decision that you will make in your life, good or bad.
Therefore since he is also a perfect intellect, he can also deduce whether the good decisions and bad decisions you've made will land you in Hell or Heaven (or the muslim equivalents).
Therefore everyone who has ever gone to hell, or ever will go to hell; Allah created in full knowledge that not only would they be immoral in life, and potentially cause suffering to others, but also from the moment of that person's creation he has known that they would absolutely and unequivocally go to hell and suffer eternally.

Allah creates people in full knowledge that they will suffer eternally. Given this must be true, I declare that my morality is superior to his. Secondly; life being a test is nonsensical. Why on earth would someone who knows everything need to test anyone? He already knows how they would perform.

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

What's with newfags these days who always /thread own posts.

Colton Jackson
Colton Jackson

according to the country that lets them rape them

Yeah not valid either pajeet

Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

is that a video from mall of america?

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

Jam, butter, cheese, some fruit, some orange juice, some biscuits, some scambled eggs with little green chilies in it, one sausage, and what appears to be what I'm fairly certain are some large potato chunks. Also that loaf of bread up top. Seriously wholesome meal here.

Henry Nelson
Henry Nelson

yes

Jeremiah Lewis
Jeremiah Lewis

whats with cumguzzlers who start shit threads

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

How about you prove to us the magic sand nigger in the sky is real. Islam is a huge detriment to modern society.

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Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

your question is like:" prove me that is a glass of wine"

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Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

Why doesn’t allah end the suffering or at least ease the suffering of his followers, why does he allow his some (not all) of his followers to wage constant war and kill men, women, and children in the Middle East and Africa, why doesn’t he simply tell them to stop. He sent the angel Gabriel to speak to Mohamed, so why doesn’t he send an angel to the leaders of ISIS and Boko Haram to tell them to stop killing.

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Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

So,,,He was behind of it??

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Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

god that's sad.
my gf is going there later today, hopefully they dont see her as haram and murder her with rocks

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

suck it you filthy kaffir pig

Henry Fisher
Henry Fisher

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Ryder Gomez
Ryder Gomez

I would spend all day accidentally stepping on the bottoms of their holy bathrobes. Eventually I'd get lucky enough that one of them would walk out of it.

can we have a halal/haram porn thread? Pretttttyyy pleeease?

Dylan Nelson
Dylan Nelson

Would you like that faggot?

William Adams
William Adams

There is only one God, and His name is DEATH.

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Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

I like how they all look like americans, obviously the artist didn't get paid enough to care

Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

pork

John Miller
John Miller

The test is for us. He knows everything we did and will do. But we don't so free will is unaffected.
Also if you woke up in hell you would accuse God of unjustly punishing you.

Anthony Brown
Anthony Brown

When i think of muslim i think of a wrinkly old brown guy scoring poppy pods with goats integrated into the scenario some way. Theres always goats.

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Justin Myers
Justin Myers

God is the true God, all religion is a weak attempt to babysit humans by humans always turning into turany, only good thing about beeibg a muslim is its ok to marry a loli.

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

We created God. God is all of our collective unconsciousness. God provides directive. The will of the people is the will of God.

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

Oh boohoo why dont they stop killing. It's only okay if whites kill and torture people. All races wage war so get over yourself.
Secondly this life is a test, it is not sufficient as a reward nor as punishment.

Levi Sanders
Levi Sanders

I like how the only thing you addressed was the tiny point at the end of my entire paragraph.

You didn't address the notion of God creating people in full knowledge they will end up in Hell. Creating creatures in full knowledge they'll wrong others, and then suffer eternally themselves.

The only thing you addressed is "We don't know the result of the test". Which is not an argument, because we do not need to be tested, as he knows the results of everyone's tests billions of years before we even existed. If we were placed in heaven we can make a simple deduction "we are good". And the deduction "we are bad" for the contrary. Under this operation, assuming god is perfect, then so is his justice, and therefore nothing he does can be unjust.

Xavier Thomas
Xavier Thomas

Under rated post. This guy knows what's going on. All god/gods are the same, omniscient and omnipotent. Therefore they know what assholes they are. If this doesn't make you realise that the notion of a deity is false, you are just in denial.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

you all are worshipping the demon BAAL, retards

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Juan Roberts
Juan Roberts

You don't know the future choices you will make. You still have free will.
Mankind isnt as logical as you say.
If God doesn't exist why not kill yourself?

Joshua Anderson
Joshua Anderson

yfw you dumb muslims realise your religion was founded thousands of years after Zoroastrianism and also other Abrahamic religions

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Gavin Peterson
Gavin Peterson

A poster saying claimong something with no citation?! I must believe it!!!

Ryder Nguyen
Ryder Nguyen

I'm not making an argument for or against free will. You keep dodging the questions. I understand why though, once you're indoctrinated as a youngster it's difficult to come to terms with clear black and white logical conundrums which are contrary to your conditioning.

I don't want to kill myself because I'm enjoying life, and I believe it is preferable to death. That in addition to the fact that I have millions of years of evolutionary instinct to survive as long as possible so that my genes may pass on.

Joshua Parker
Joshua Parker

Ok Bill

Nathaniel Taylor
Nathaniel Taylor

If God doesn't exist why not kill yourself?
If god exists why not kill yourself?

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Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

Prove to me my dick can't shot lasers.

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

islam is cancer spreading across the globe only by cutting it out of western society and giving the middle east some chemotherapy can we cure humanity

the only good Islam could possibly do is unite humanity with no distinction between race but there would be a distinction between men and women. not to mention we would all be goat fuckers

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

You don't prove a negative.
It's your responsibility to prove the affirmative.

If you believe otherwise, you're even stupider than you look.

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Aiden Butler
Aiden Butler

By deeds and action.
Now try and do something about your fears.

Jayden Evans
Jayden Evans

Muslims are Christians that have been mislead by a false prophet, whom denied that Jesus is the new covanent.

Also Mohammed is a fucking rapist war lord, Jesus is the literal word of god.

And Allah is just Arabic for one god.
We worship the same God, but you also worship a pedophile, which is a mortal sin.

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Jeremiah Brown
Jeremiah Brown

/thread

Brayden Johnson
Brayden Johnson

He is a god - You have to believe in him, there is no prove in his existence or non existence so why would you ask such a stupid question ?

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

Came from crapbook liking their own posts.

Jayden Hernandez
Jayden Hernandez

Because Allah worshipers kill more Allah worshipers than any other religion.
Well played Jesus, well played.

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

going to hell because you thought furthering doubt in your god was a good idea

Cameron Davis
Cameron Davis

and OP is left without words
now he will leave this thread, having learned nothing, just to come tomorrow again with the same request

Bentley King
Bentley King

Easy. There is no god. There is not and has never been any proof of a god. Your superstitions are no more true than any other superstitions.

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

I cant explain to a mentally insane person why a fictional creature doesnt exist Im afraid. Have you considered theraphy?

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Alexander Morgan
Alexander Morgan

/thread

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

Not OP or Muslim but the standard response to this is that the good gained in the end (some gaining eternal happiness, in this case people freely choosing eternity with God) is greater than the evil gained by making people that would choose hell (being life without God).

Angel Roberts
Angel Roberts

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Joshua Evans
Joshua Evans

God lives outside of time; in the Eternal Now. Everything happens in an instant for God. Just because he knows doesn't mean you don't have free will. If I'm on top of a building and see two cars careening towards each other is that my fault? I know they will hit each other but that doesn't change anything. Earth isn't a test. It's a conditioning. Think of Heaven and Hell as the same place. If you've rejected God's love on earth then to be surrounded by it for eternity would be Hell to you. Imagine a man living in a basement with his shades drawn for 80 years. To be suddenly thrust into sunlight would be extremely painful and cause extreme burns. Meanwhile a surfer revels in the sunlight. The sun is God's love. If you don't accept it now you're gonna burn real bad. This is your chance to acclimate to pure love.

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Only one Abrahamic religion knows that God became man. That's a pretty significant difference lol.

Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

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Asher Anderson
Asher Anderson

Everytime those mudslimes want to convice normal people that their "allah" and religion is the one and only true, but fuck those fuckers I don't care about your prophet or religion or the stupid piggy sausage shit you wanna tell me or other normal people

fuck you and get out of this place

Lucas Roberts
Lucas Roberts

Alla was an anunaki bitch that fucked your dad

James Turner
James Turner

who says there is a "true" god... humans are so full of themselves

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

If I'm on top of a building and see two cars careening towards each other is that my fault?
Are you, by any chance, an all good omnipotent being that can do and undo all? If so, user, yes, it's your fault for not preventing that which you could. If you don't, my dear, you are not all good...

Gavin Sanchez
Gavin Sanchez

Your car example doesn’t work, God isn’t just an observer of the car crash, he causes it to happen by causing the cars to exist in such a relation to each other as to cause a car crash.

Jace Long
Jace Long

Calling a man son of God and worshipping him
worship saints and popes even though they are just human
ask forgiveness not from your Lord but from some priest in a closet
Yeah christians don't know what monotheism means.
Muslims don't worship Muhammad, quran is filled with ayat that say that Muhammad is but a man

Levi Rodriguez
Levi Rodriguez

Life is filled with suffering, people kill and cheat each other. The rich keep the poor down and corruption is rampant. The moral thing to do is kill yourself and since there isn't an afterlife you shouldn't be worried.

Owen Rivera
Owen Rivera

Mankind is ungratefull. You could take care of your wife all your life but do 1 thing wrong and she'll forget all the good you did. And you say people will just shut up and not complain when they find themselves in hell without a reason. Sure god knows but we don't so the moral thing to do is give people a chance to live their life however they want. And on the day of judgement the reckoning will be made.

Zachary Powell
Zachary Powell

You come from a shit hole that's too hot and full of sand. You can't have sex or mix with women. When you do you end up marrying cousins meaning you're the most inbred race on earth. You hate each other, and kill each other over the contradictions that Mohammed himself wrote into your shitty religion and if the Allah you claim loves you actually gave a shit about your brown, inbred sandy arse he'd have taught you how to form a queue, not shit into your drinking water and not to fuck your cousins. He hasn't so there's your proof.

Not accepting this truth is due to you being too dumb from generations of inbreeding.

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

-1/10 troll. Redo please.

Adrian Turner
Adrian Turner

Nope, they are adoring Anunakis since it's Enlil and Marduk

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Samuel Clark
Samuel Clark

You posting on Sup Forums is proof enough. Have some pork fgt!

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

Torah came before Quran. Yaweh came before Allah.. So either your god is their god renamed, or just some chep knockoff

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Jaxson Richardson
Jaxson Richardson

You got it the wrong way around, please tell my what makes you think there is a god. Did you follow the news lately? There is no god, no allah, no shiva. And even if there was something godlike, why should i care for it while it obviously dosn't care for humanity?

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

It's as simple as that if there's a god (s)he is an arsehole and not worth worthshipping.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

Free will, faggot.

parents say, "don't hurt yourself"
cuts self
complains this proves parents don't love you

That's basically what you're doing. Instruction is provided. People ignore it and hurt each other. You use that as proof that there is no such instruction, or instructor.

Facile would be an improvement.

I cannot understand why atheists think they're so fucking smart...

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

no, fuck off.

i do appreciate the whole fuck children thing youve got going on tho

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Owen Green
Owen Green

parents say, "don't hurt yourself"
parents cut child
complains this proves parents don't love you
ftfy

Daniel Gray
Daniel Gray

Try your hardest to prove
no u

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Lincoln Jackson
Lincoln Jackson

You're the faglord that's claiming your God is something. Burden of proof is on you, you religicuck.

Parker Lopez
Parker Lopez

The Earth Mother is very disappointed in her children's constant need to seek objects of worship in order to explain their existence. No such explanation is required.

Josiah Nelson
Josiah Nelson

religion
proof
yeah, like u would believe me

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Luis Flores
Luis Flores

Free will is a lie. Look dude, I know I'm about to call you a faggot. You FUCKING faggot.

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

I am not atheist, i'm agnostic. There's nothing like free will, our decisions are made by our subconscious.
There are already machines that could read your though eeg and stop you in your action without your conscious even realizing. And if god was allmighty he would be able to prevent evil.

Jayden Johnson
Jayden Johnson

Allah is not the true God, for a very simple reason: Scandinavia.

In some places, the sun literally never goes down for whole months. You cannot perform Ramadan at all. So either Allah didn't know about that place which makes him pretty dense, or he only wants people from some places to perform it which would mean that in his eyes, some of his followers do not need to follow his instructions unlike others, which means he cares more about some muslims than others.

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

"He is not."

*theme music starts playing*

Logan James
Logan James

And the good gained from having people that would choose God and refraining from the creation of those condemned to eternal suffering is greater than having the good go to heaven and the bad go to hell. Your argument does not stand up. If we are to believe that God creates everyone, and we are also to believe that God knows whether each individual will go to heaven or hell, he could simply refrain from creating those that he would deem to be evil.

I'm not making an argument for or against free will as i mention here: .
If you're on top of a buliding and see two cars careening towards each other, but then also made both the cars, and both the drivers, and the entire environment around them for their entire lives, with a knowing guarantee that this would be the outcome; then yes it is your fault. Your argument suggests that an all-knowing God, who can plan and foresee every eventuality would make a mistake or allow accidents to happen.

The remainder of your point is meaningless speculation. I'm not convinced.

Daniel Reyes
Daniel Reyes

I cannot understand why atheists think they're so fucking smart...
Because we are you dumb fucking faggot. We are so fucking smart because we're not blinded by the madwits believe in an imaginary friend that will help us getting our shit together. We know the only ones we should believe in are ourselves, our family and friends. Because these are real people that could actually help change my life.

Christopher Clark
Christopher Clark

The moral thing to do is to try to leave the world having done more good than bad, and having tried to eleviate or minimise suffering to the best of your ability.

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

Daily reminder that the Quran is demonstrably false: wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran
inb4 Jews can't be trusted
A Jew that says 2+2=4 is still correct.

Juan Long
Juan Long

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checkmate

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Levi Jones
Levi Jones

So religion should be cancelled since it has brought way more suffering to humanity that help.

Lucas White
Lucas White

Hey did you know your prophet is a pedophile warlord?

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Elijah Reed
Elijah Reed

Well perhaps. Or perhaps religion should instead just be left outside of legislation. Whilst i think religion is nonsense, some people draw comfort from religion. Whether they're stupid or not they're stil human with emotions and feelings, worries and anxieties. It would be sociopathic to strip the relief of comfort that religion may give them. It's perfectly reasonable to let people believe, say and do whatever they like; so long as it doesn't impede another's ability to believe, say or do what they like. But religion absolutely has no place in law. Neither does anything else that cannot be proven.

Blake Davis
Blake Davis

he wanted proof that allah is NOT the true god

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

relief of comfort
relief or* comfort

Adam Phillips
Adam Phillips

The only thing that will dominate the world is the world record for dead muslims.
your jew masters have been setting this up for decades.
WW3 will be muslims vs the world. Then the jews will move in and have their complete take over once we have wiped each other out.
The only way to prevent this is to denounce Islam and/or go back to or stay put in your middle east shit holes.

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Connor James
Connor James

Men should not be deified, your God is a hypocrit, so is yours Jesus, yours too Jews

Thomas Morales
Thomas Morales

I'm smart cuz I'm smart, and my saying this proves it!
Lol

If God is real, it changes nothing you said except your misplaced arrogance. If not, it still changes nothing. You delivered an unfalsifiable statement detached from the issue as proof of your wisdom.

*applause*

You're also wrong on the merits. Many people have changed themselves through faith and religion. And by "many" I mean countless. They write about it. They talk about it. They try to help others. You can hardly walk into a church and not find someone with this kind of story. Including the likes of Thomas Aquinas.

But, obviously, fixing your life through faith is impossible. Because you deem it so.

Easton Martinez
Easton Martinez

sun doesnt come up for months
time is frozen
You can fast a day by seeing how much time has passed stupid

Brayden Kelly
Brayden Kelly

my sides

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

This. However just because the argument is a fallacy, doesn't mean the initial position you're trying to argue for is false.

In this case God is simply an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

Jackson Morris
Jackson Morris

I'm muslim.Try your hardest to prove me Allah is not the true God.

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Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

Death to Allah

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

Europe has got some major cleaning up to do in the coming decades lest they sacrifice everything their ancestors fought for. And it's not Europeans today that will suffer, it's their children. All due to their cowardice of being called a racist.

Logan Miller
Logan Miller

ever heard of the tea cup in space?

Lucas Morris
Lucas Morris

In this case God is simply an unfalsifiable hypothesis.
Epicurus falsified it long ago. People have been leaning on the "fuck you, I like it and I'll kick your ass" counter-hypothesis in the time since.

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Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

/thread right here
but we dont? lol nigga you dumb contradicting your previous sentence, gtfo out of here troll

Aaron Young
Aaron Young

“God” is a human construct used by the elite to control the poor and ignorant.

Therefore Allah can not be the true god because god is a myth.

John Davis
John Davis

that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence

there's your proof there's no god

Xavier Hernandez
Xavier Hernandez

Yes. Santa claus also falls into the same principle. "There is no evidence, so there is no point in belief." And I agree. I'm simply stating that whilst is burden of proof reversal is a fallcy, so is the fallacy fallacy - that is; just because the method of a person's argument is fallacious, it does not necessarily logically follow that the initial premise is false. It simply means that the initial premise hasn't had a true argument put forwards about it.

Ethan Richardson
Ethan Richardson

No, you cannot.

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

Why are whiteys so subservient to Muslims? They have fucked every country they have taken "refuge" in and whitey is happy to let it happen.

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

whiteys
faggotron 9000 "whitey" detected

Benjamin Martinez
Benjamin Martinez

it does not necessarily logically follow that the initial premise is false. It simply means that the initial premise hasn't had a true argument put forwards about it.
…. which is interesting, since such an unbased belief can spark a following over thousands of years despite being handed down "telephone game" style with millions of followers. (who, interestingly enough, don't really have a consistent canon or belief, although the keep saying they do)

Justin Murphy
Justin Murphy

Wholesome??? Thats just a shitload of carbs, carbs in all forms, more carbs than you need in a WEEK. This is why 'merkins are fat, they believe this abomination is WHOLESOME.
Its disgusting, The only faintly redeemable part of this tray of fat and sugar is that light sprinkling of grapes and oranges. Where is the vegetables? Carrots? Green salad? tomatoes? peas? Where is the fibre? Where is the protein? pure meat? Where are the things the body needs?? Not on this tray, for sure.

Eat this, and nothing but this for a year and youll be an unhealthy, greasy, pale-skinned tipping-over-the-scooter-at-walmart-fat.

Jace Gutierrez
Jace Gutierrez

To be clear when I say religion i actually mean the institution "church". Because as long as you don't bother me with it I don't care about what you believe in.

What you're impling is it's ok to let religious pedos (ehm people, i meant people) help others with their mental health issues instead of a trained therapist? I think whether a persons mental health issues get threated properly should not depend on their IQ. Relegion as institution has always and will always be used as crowd control. There's nothing good in it. We should teach humanity instead of religion!

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

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Gavin Foster
Gavin Foster

I'm not entirely certain I'm not in hell right now.
It would explain my having to put up with retards like you.

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Joseph Powell
Joseph Powell

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Gavin Davis
Gavin Davis

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William Smith
William Smith

that only looks good to you because you american scum are used to that kinda of shit that is laced with weird chemicals and holds no nutritional value. disgusting.

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

Genuine query, if Allah was a woman, how would you react?

Benjamin Edwards
Benjamin Edwards

I'm simply stating that whilst is burden of proof reversal is a fallcy, so is the fallacy fallacy - that is; just because the method of a person's argument is fallacious, it does not necessarily logically follow that the initial premise is false.

I'd rather waste my time on the web than kneeling on a carpet, in a church or in front of my bed, speaking to myself and imaginary beings, like a freaking maniac.

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

Not OP, or Muslim, or even religious. However, you forget to address a huge thing religion provides that alternatives to it struggle with and that is having a rock solid community center(church, mosque, routine communal places of worship etc..). Getting all different kinds of people with different professions, interests, and backgrounds on a regular basis is incredibly difficult to do on its own, but organized religion can do this with ease. This is because these folks have a common underlying belief system. Atheists, on the contrary, do not have this. There's only one common thing that all atheists have in common and that is their lack of belief in a higher power.

Until secularists can come up with an effective alternative to this, then there will likely always be a place for religion. In fact, I'd say this is the number one hurdle to the end of religion.

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

how??

Jayden Carter
Jayden Carter

Well something very interesting has happened to human brains over the last few hundred years alone. The ability to think abstractly hasn't been present for long, and along with that have come rigid rules of logic. We all know humans are not intrinsically good at logic, nor statistics, and our intuition is often wrong. This simply becomes more and more true the further back in history you go - people (en masse_ are less able to think abstractly, and less able to think logically. I would suspect that the reason why religion has been successfully passed down form parent to child for thousands of years, is probably in part due to how we've evolved. It was imperitive for our human survival for children to be sponges for information. "Dont go near that wolf", "Don't touch that fire" etc. humans who ignored this died early and their genes didn't get passed on. Humans who were sponges stayed away from dangers and lived tot pass on their genes. Thus since we haven't exactly changed much, if religion is tought to you fervently enough as a youngster, as your biology dictates you'll absorb it, and it's very difficult to break free from that conditioning.
Yet scepticism of religion has grown hugely over the last few hundred years, and I think that this is at least in part a consequence of this change in how our minds function that I mentioned in the beginning.

Evan Green
Evan Green

try to prove me Santa doesn't exist

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

fixing your life through faith is impossible
Wow so much bullshit. I never said any of what you insinuate that i did. Of cause are there many people that think religion changed their life, that's the point of a church to make you believe that. This is the way they are making money. But in the end it's always the people themselfes that change their behaviour. Religion is only a catalysator to get to that change. But still therapy should be done be therapists not rapists.

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

Likewise. I'm simply making a claim of logic and how it should be applied.

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

They're not. Islam is on another level of dangerous, cruel and barbarism.

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

religion doesn't do this, at all
rich folks go to rich churches
poor folks go to whatever is closest
and yeah, it functions to keep everyone in line.
which means if you're off average, religion is just another drag in your life

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

parents say, "don't hurt yourself"
cuts self
complains this proves parents don't love you

BRRRRRRRR! Wrong!

This is just some sentences put together. Why the hell would I complain that my parents didn,t love me if I accidentally cut myself? Would anyone? This is not logical, its just stupid.

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

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Nathan Young
Nathan Young

The ability to think abstractly hasn't been present for long
bull SHIT. it has been around ever since man parted from the monkey. thinking in the abstract is the founding stone of intelligence.

why religion has been successfully passed down
define "successfully" in this context please. do you call it a success that the scriptures have been twisted, derived, distorted and rearranged at will? where is any consistency in that?

Yet scepticism of religion has grown hugely over the last few hundred years, and I think that this is at least in part a consequence of this change in how our minds function that I mentioned in the beginning.
thinking in the abstract is also highly important to any developement, may that be in science, engineering or medicine. you have to draw completely new connections to the knowledge you are presented. religion is almost the exact opposite of that as it connects ludicrous ideas and attaches them to moral standards - hence the old testament has been gotten rid of since it encourages incest and hunting and killing homosexuals.

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

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William Reed
William Reed

Could you kindly tell us what defines a God first? Because if you do not tell us that then I could say, The one true god is the more wearable, therefore my shirt is God.

Kindly tell us first

Omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent. Note this if your God, Allah has these qualities then he cannot exist, therefore not a true God. Kindly tell us how you define the one true God so that we do not go by English definition of an Absolute God.

Jeremiah Richardson
Jeremiah Richardson

so you have no faith is that it?

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

seeing how much time has passed
Quran says nothing about "8'o clock till 6 o'clock if the sun's not visibile" It says from SUNUP till SUNDOWN. This means allah had no idea about other, more northern (or southern) parts of the world.
Some ALLMIGHTY ALLSEEING god you've got there..

BWHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA...

Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

Relegion as institution has always and will always be used as crowd control.
And that's why it should be abandoned.

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

You're talking about Russels Teapot. Look it up.

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

iv seen your country and i can surely say there is no god.

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Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

it is impossible to prove something that does NOT exist, exists.

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Ryan Nguyen
Ryan Nguyen

What are the seven deadly sins in Islam?

Hudson Russell
Hudson Russell

I think you meant to write "I'ma go eat a dick now, bye!". Look it up.

Levi Morgan
Levi Morgan

quartz

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Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

I can mix salt and water, disproving your sand nigger pedophile

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

who gives a shit faggot, go pray to your dickless gay alien god to probe your ass over and over.

Leo Edwards
Leo Edwards

What year is it

Nicholas Martin
Nicholas Martin

No, I am informing you about the well-known analogy called Russel's teapot, which you tried to refer to.
Here's a good link for introduction to the material:
russell.mcmaster.ca/cpbr11p69.pdf

You're welcome

Brody Torres
Brody Torres

which is exactly what I meant.
are you really autistic enough to try and be wise about something that I have already read? can you please just give me more links? I really really need your kind help, you idiot.
the point of the whole metaphor is exactly that the object is random and arbitrary. are you fucking retarded?

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

You have to prove a negative. For example i can say "There is no sun" and would it be true for just being a negative ?

Nathan Thompson
Nathan Thompson

You are not supposed to draw pictures of humans, faggot.

Mason Long
Mason Long

Waht country is this? a school lunch? that look disgusting. Prison food?

Brody Jenkins
Brody Jenkins

OMG, that's supposed to be a cheeseburger.

Wyatt Nguyen
Wyatt Nguyen

troll

Nicholas Jackson
Nicholas Jackson

He is.
Both you and the Christians believe in the same God.
But whereas the Christians savior is peace loving you chose a warlord pedophile.

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

Calm down. Your talking about a "teacup in space" didnt exactly give the impression that you were an expert in the field...

Noah Myers
Noah Myers

Algebra.

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

expert in the field
tips fedora
oh i bet (You) are

Hudson Foster
Hudson Foster

Because the Quaran contradicts itself by saying the scriptures are the word of God, then that you cannot corrupt the word of God, then that scriptures are corrupt.

Also it says the sun sets in a muddy spring.

Also it says miriam sister of Moses is the same as Mary mother of Christ.

U could go on.

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Nicholas Hall
Nicholas Hall

So..He was behind of it.

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Nicholas Brooks
Nicholas Brooks

So, no teacup then?, and besides Russels Teapot is not a metaphor on the arbitrary, it is about the fact that philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making unfalsifiable claims. I can say "There's a teapot orbiting Jupiter! Disprove it!" You cant. This is the core of most religious debates.

Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

actually tries to explain it in his fedora layman writing
kek

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Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

Yes, I dumbed it down a bit, considering the audience.

Matthew King
Matthew King

tell me again how significant it is that it's a teapot instead of a tea cup. and please don't be shy appying your excellent writing style once again.

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

how significant it is that it's a teapot instead of a tea cup

Bertrand Russel was a genius, you're clearly not.
I think I prefer the original version.

Julian Long
Julian Long

Thanks for the enrichment op. I feel much safer now.
youtube.com/watch?v=F-LhfKKgncg

Eli Smith
Eli Smith

Bertrand Russel was a genius, you're clearly not.
I think I prefer the original version.
tips fedora
makes another tick on the wall where he wrote "online discussions won"

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