How do you define psychedelic music? What makes a song psychedelic? You can listen to anything while tripping. Is it supposed to be reminiscent of the feeling you get on a psychedelic trip?
People always say, for instance, that Merriweather Post Pavilion is psychedelic pop but literally nothing about it sounds psychedelic to me. It just sounds like pop. From my own experience on psychedelic drugs, I would say that techno, industrial, and black metal are much better examples of psychedelic music.
>MPP doesn't sound psychedelic >techno, industrial, and black metal Sounds like you need to trip in the sunshine and lighten up desu
>define psychedelic music Music that evokes the psychedelic. Alternatively, and as it's used maybe more commonly, music that sounds like 60's psychedelic music.
In my experience on psychedelic drugs especially acid, it's a very intense, primal experience. Music with a hard beat and abrasive sounds and textures feels much more psychedelic to me than delicate little fairy music like the Beatles or Animal Collective.
This reminds me of my first acid trip. I didn't even listen to this at the time but it evokes the feeling I had on acid.
>Is it supposed to be reminiscent of the feeling you get on a psychedelic trip?
Essentially yeah, you sorta need to have tried a psychedelic before in order to completely understand what makes psychedelic music psychedelic. Which IMO is why artists like Zappa don't sound psychedelic to me, as they don't really know what a psychedelic experience entails. Personally I always find that there's a certain itch good psychedelic music scratches with the way the guitar is played, the intensity and pitch of it, and the bombardment of noise while still being in harmony.
Psychedelic pop is sort of an oxymoron of a genre IMO, and I don't think I've ever heard any decent psych pop at all.
This is probably the heaviest psychedelic song you can find and by one of the most psychedelic bands as well. Raga rock with an intense sitar is just about the only thing that can get trippier.
Carter Ramirez
>>Essentially yeah, you sorta need to have tried a psychedelic before in order to completely understand what makes psychedelic music psychedelic. not true btw
Nolan Richardson
I have different experience with LSD I guess. I wouldn't describe my experiences as primal at all. Mushrooms I would definitely describe as primal and darker. LSD for me is bright and electric and like riding a crazy wave of pure insight and positive energy.
Logan Sanchez
>insight
Enjoy your schizophrenia xD
Chase Carter
Psych rock should have you questioning whether you've been listening to it for 1 minute, 5 minutes or it's been on repeat for the last hour
Ethan Flores
Psychedelic directly refers to the state one experiences while on a psychedelic. Psychedelic music is derived from this state. If you've never tripped before, you can study the byproducts of the trip (psychedelic music) and look for patterns within it, but you won't really understand the source material for said music (the trip). Which is why there's countless artists making 'psychedelic' music that isn't psychedelic at all
Dylan Thompson
Enjoy your fear (or get past it. probably get past it.)
Bentley Thompson
Lmao did lsd several times no fear at all Accepting weird bullshit as enlightment is schizophrenia to the max bro
Jack Brooks
>you sorta need to have tried a psychedelic before in order to completely understand what makes psychedelic music psychedelic. As I said, I have done psychedlic drugs and this 60s "psychedelic rock" sound does not actually evoke the feeling of tripping for me.
If you've done LSD several times and don't think there's any insight to be had there, you're probably doing it the wrong way and are probably pretty immature.
Isaiah White
Just passing weird stuff off as bullshit is kinda closed minded don't you think? Not something I'd expect from someone who has tried psychedelics :^)
Lucas Gutierrez
Nothing actually matters or has a meaning xD
Nathan Torres
>I am an NPC
Dylan Martinez
>Is it supposed to be reminiscent of the feeling you get on a psychedelic trip?
"no"
Michael Hughes
Should I put it up my sphincter or what
Dude you're pathetic, enlightment on acid is just brainwashing.
Robert Barnes
Why are you so hostile? Oh, that's right, because you're a low IQ NPC person with no soul.
Christopher Butler
Who are you quoting?
Henry Moore
You. The NPC person.
David Wood
Why would I want to let dirt inside my house
Tyler Hernandez
I'd say it's about building thick atmosphere through intentionally repetitive, in part abrasively simple, yet always subtly changing layers of sound, with synthesis/mixing/distortion/noise/texture often being more important than melody. Basically music that is to some extent designed to induce trance and serve as a background for conscious imagination.
Adam Lewis
"citation needed"
Owen Williams
This is the ultimate psychedelic music. Nothing else comes close.
You clearly have got some comprehension problems + you surely got schizophrenic because you took some mind play on acid too seriously, seek help
Sebastian Martinez
Acid isn't enlightening in and of itself but you're an idiot if you don't see how an altered state of consciousness can give you new perspective and insight on life and your own thoughts/views
Matthew Morris
Comprehension problems? You're proudly espousing nihilism. You are an NPC. Not my fault you're too stupid to follow a conversation. Do some meditation or something. Maybe you can save your soul if you still have one / ever had one.
Xavier Kelly
>delicate little fairy music like the Beatles or Animal Collective kek
Henry Price
Recipe for a bad trip right here
Owen Sullivan
I'm aware of that, but I only see it as some funny stuff you make up while being under the influence of a potent drug, like meditating in the middle of a forest on coke weed and amphetamines and seeing faces of forest ghosts while freestyling a better rhyme scheme than average eminem song
No. I know it can be shocking for an NPC to encounter someone who actually has a soul.
Evan James
Ok you're trolling lmao
Lucas Lee
Not trolling. And the fact that you can't comprehend that other people actually have real value systems and non-vacuous, non-post-modern, non-ironic ways of understanding the world, shows the really fucking sad state you're in.
Alexander Thompson
Assimilation, imageboards are a hostile place
Chase Phillips
Thank you for ghostwriting, that will be what I tell a satanist next time I see one
Benjamin White
>I am disconnected from reality and can't comprehend what people are saying, I just type in my bullshit without any context or reference to the things other people say
Jose Martinez
>but you won't really understand the source material for said music (the trip). not true btw
Jaxon Sullivan
funny how a thread about psychs turns into assholes whining about whos taken a trip or not. jfc
David Jones
Again, if you really can't understand how my posts are related to yours, (which I find hard to believe - you're just trying to find ways to insult me because you're a low IQ NPC as we've discussed) it's your cognitive/comprehension problem, not mine.
Easton Harris
>you don't understand psychedelic music if you've never done psychedelics Do you know music theory?
Gavin Peterson
I agree
Lincoln Peterson
Just kiss already you faggots
Wyatt Martinez
This is more psychedelic than any 60s rock or p4k festival tumblrpop
>not listening to traditional Western art music while tripping You hippie scum are the reason that normalfaggots think LSD is all wishy washy new age woo shit, and not the intellectually enlightening experience that it can be with the proper mindset and preparation.
>and not the intellectually enlightening experience please enlighten us on what you have accomplished
Luis Wood
>enlightenment = worldly accomplishments Want to know how I know you're a pleb/psychopath?
Connor Bailey
yeah i've done drug before
Joseph Powell
Did you ever considered the possibility that you're wrong? I had many friends who were just like you after a trip. After some mild psychotherapy it was gone and they were fine again. Had the problem too but since I'm smart I smoked a fat bowl and layed off my narcisstic stubbornness.
Cooper Reed
So... you've done nothing with yourself.
Congrats.
Andrew Stewart
Wrong about what? I haven't said anything about my views in this entire thread except that I'm not a nihilist and I believe in something I'm calling a "soul".
Angel Evans
i never said anything about worldly. i just asked what have you done since the enlightenment
Oliver Watson
Not that user, but: >Before Enlightenment chop wood carry water, after Enlightenment, chop wood carry water
Aaron Gray
Take this as an opportunity to refine yours, then. Nihilism is a necessary phase of one's philosophical development. I suspect we agree in that it's not a great place to stay, but you're doing no good by tearing others down and holding yourself smugly superior.
Step back and think. You can do better than this.
Ryder Lee
>what have you done brah? Bro you need to do something productive mang. Contribute to society bro. You need to work for Mr. Shekelberg and go in debt to get a nice house bruh Great post
Alexander Clark
never said any of that. i just want to know whats the difference post-enlightenment
Hunter Peterson
there is no "necessary phase" of one's philosophical development. Furthermore, it's entirely possible to regard nihilism and at once dismiss it as not worth considering, being that it's arguably a philosophical dead end, much like solipsism, although nihilism has admittedly more ground to cover before it reaches the end than solipsism which is a beautifully concise, yet fairly useless philosophy. Much like religion and dogma is a form of philosophical suicide, a firm belief in nihilism leads one to depression at worst and worldly indifference at best.
Asher Baker
I mean your whole approach. You seem to be unable to accept that your thought process could be wrong.
Hudson Gonzalez
I accept that my thought process could be wrong. Is that what you wanted? If you have a specific criticism or think a specific thing I've said is wrong, say so. Otherwise you're just saying "well like... uh... whatever you think man... it could like be wrong yknow....". Not really substantive.
Blake Hernandez
If you want to honestly consider meaning, you really should give nihilism the time of day. But I guess you're just superior to us plebs. You're the smartest dude, well done.
Ryan Scott
I'm the original user who was telling nihilist retard user to fuck off. I think nihilism is a thing you might go through on your journey. Sure. And everyone around you who knows better should tell you to fuck off when you go there.
Wyatt Kelly
If you accept it, well fine then.
Brayden Bell
>And everyone around you who knows better should tell you to fuck off when you go there. Right, and there are more and less productive ways to do that. Yours is unnecessarily smug and counterproductive. Hell, the original post was probably just an user memeing.
Jose Rodriguez
Oops, my bad, I didn't realize that you took my "nothing has a meaning" post seriously which has lead you to the fallacy of thinking I'd be a nihilist. Have a nice day.
Joshua Morgan
>fallacy It's not a fallacy if you were willingly being deceptive
Dylan Peterson
It was irony, as you could poit out after seeing the xD which ist often used to give something a infantile connotation or to give a hint towards the attribute of a statement which can be described as joke. Why? Because nihilism is what people after taking a trip often believe in, basically. Of course besides of the "everything is just a game" stuff which is kind of the same or at least connected with it.
Carter Jackson
I wasn't the guy you were talking to, I don't care about your shitposting
Just letting you know you mispoke
I didn't bother reading your whole wall of text btw
Gavin Watson
Have fun ;)
Noah Allen
With what?
Charles White
Copypasta
Matthew Martin
Which post I replied to was copypasta?
Mason Barnes
So that you can clean it up. Perhaps grow a plant in it. And besides a little dirt is healthy for you.
Landon Butler
That's a very good question.
Ian Nelson
Have fun ;)
Joshua Lopez
I've got enough work to do without having dirt in my house and also I eat from the floor, don't need any dirt in here
Austin Robinson
Thank you, going to install all of those games.
Aaron Morgan
OK shouldn't you be at work right now though?
Evan Roberts
This is my work.
Blake Garcia
Goodbye
Gavin Hernandez
Goody Goody
Kevin Green
Psychedelic means nothing. Music is and always has been a very spacial, creative, abstract "heady" thing. The way I hear it used I "psychedelic" means the instrumentation is novel to the listener.
Jackson Davis
Acid just opens up your mind and makes you more receptive to the things going on around you, hyper awareness and that kind of thing. Whatever you put into your mind while on it will have an effect. I've seen people come out of the experience burnouts and seen some come out with life-altering revelations. It's all dependent on you.
Robert Nguyen
Shit that sounds like 13th floor elevators and seeds but also beatles and beach boys.
Jace Gray
welcome to the world of psychedelics friend
Hudson Williams
It’s sad that a question asked by OP has turned into a bunch of unbalanced hyper-masculine energy battling each other over who’s right.
In short: Psychedelics have thought me that every moment in youre life is full of meaning and worth a damn. Life seems to be energetic sequences (lessons so to speak) that stem from trauma and insecurity that one faces. Which means everyone is healing at their own pace, and that what may make sense to you personally about the world, creation, astronomy, etc probably will not be empathetically understood by anyone, so I’ve found it best to just accept where anyone is in their life (light and dark energy are both necessities so that we can all face what we need to face through the insecurities and trauma we have) and to just show love man, pure unconditional love is enlightenment. And I’m very far being being “enlightened” but internal and Psychedelic experiences have helped me feel d meaning in everything and that “care doesn’t equal love, especially went attachments are involved”, which is why gratitude is so important
Evan Johnson
Yeah but why not just doing it recreationally and not with the intention of enlightment
I knew a dude who was actually a cool guy but then he started to go deeper into some pseudoscience and esotheric bullshit, secret "knowledge" and weird philosophy, then he was taking acid and now he's just an asshole who participates in some literally gay rituals, takes nothing seriously (but is very serious about it) and thinks that anybody who is trying to help him actually wants to harm him because he is one of the chosen ones or something like that... besides of that he thinks he is a magician and that nobody can prove anything but thats a whole different story. I've experienced similar occurances on other people, they started to be a junkie, a weirdo, an ignorant idiot who thinks he has talked to god and knows everything better while being a slave and ayou bitch towards certain things. Really nothing bad about an acid trip and having sex with a beautiful girl or walking through the forest or something else, but if you take it too seriously you might have gone legitimately crazy.
Evan Rodriguez
>bitching about masculinity
Are you feeling insecure around certain people?
Xavier Campbell
I just personally find it sad that people can’t just respect other people’s opinions and have a nice discussion rather than a hyper masculine argument.
I just find it to be my calling card to help men with their emotions, does that make you insecure? (Reflective fear)
Wyatt Martinez
Do you perhaps like goa, user?
William Johnson
Does anybody else feel completely exhausted and worn out but at the same time, still too wired to sleep the day after an acid trip?
Chase Diaz
That first one's a real good song man ill definitely try this one next time
Hunter Williams
Okay then, cool.
Asher Campbell
No, I fucking hate Goa. In fact I hate most kinds of electronic dance music.
Hunter Wilson
That's a shame. What psychedelic stuff do you like?
Elijah Lopez
Everything that drones. I like noise more than rhythm.
Noah Howard
That's actually aptly put. Nihilism is a state of complete lack of belief in inherent values. After that you can start building your own personal values from the ground up, and properly motivated. They are much more true values as a result.
