What does Sup Forums think of Aleister Crowley. Are his ideas redpill?

What does Sup Forums think of Aleister Crowley. Are his ideas redpill?

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No, you stupid shitposting Aussie.

Gay and full of shit.

Shitposting?
I was curious what Sup Forums thought about this guy and his philosophies.

Crowley was an absolute degenerate. He just wanted muh dick and do 2spoopy4me shit.

So I take it he's not a popular figure in the US?

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I don't think most people know who he is here in the states. Only people who know who he is are /x/philes. He isn't a house hold name

Ozzy had a crappy song about him and Jimmy Page owned his house.
So any interest in him died in the 1970s.

I don't browse /x/ and know who he is. Jack Parsons practiced sex magick with him. It is not like he is super obscure.

He was onto something, but didn't quite grasp true occultism.

He is a satanist who molested children, had tons of gay sex, was kicked out of england for being so evil and influenced tons of bands to trick people into following his ways like the beatles, black Sabbath, Led Zeplin and any modern pop artist. Fuck him.

I'm a thelemite.

Crowley was basically a mixture of Fascism, Traditionalism, Anarchism, Minarchism and Aristocratic Monarchism.

The following writings of Aleister Crowley illustrate his political thinking:

"Myself, age 28 1/2. In good health, fond of out-door sports, especially mountaineering and big-game shooting...A rationalist...Tory and Jacobite."

- THE EQUINOX OF THE GODS

"The shallow sophisms of the socialist were intelligible; they could not be refuted by the profounder and therefore unintelligible propositions of the Tory."

- THIEN TAO

"Still, perhaps with a little help from Hashish, one can imagine a Merchant Prince or a Banker being intelligent, or even, in a weak moment, human; and this is not the case with officials. The standard moreover, of education and Good Manners, low as it is, is less low in Tory circles...The submergence of the individual in his class means the end of all true human relations between men. Socialism means war."

- MAGICK WITHOUT TEARS

"For some time I had interested myself in Fascismo which I regarded with entire sympathy even excluding its illegitimacy on the ground that constitutional authority had become to all intents and purposes a dead letter. I was delighted with the common sense of its programme and was especially pleased by its attitude towards the Church. It was proposed to use forcible means to prevent the Vatican employing the influence of the priests to attain political ends. I was also convinced of the importance of the movement and of its almost immediate success...The Fascisti patrolling the railway were delightful. They had all the picturesqueness of opera brigands...Rome was wild with enthusiasm. The Fascisti swarmed all over the city. I thought their behaviour admirable. They policed the towns and suppressed any attempted breach of the peace with utmost efficiency; but for all that my first doubts disturbed my pleasure in the victory.

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I'd say he has lived life to the fullest. I'd give him that. He also had the opportunity to delve deeper into what he was doing (others will say he has delved deeper). He had first hand documents I'd kill to have, and he squandered everything. Just a sad ending to a really adventures life. I admire the Brits for their thirst of knowledge. Great explorers.

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Crowley:

-Claimed the Age of Horus would destroy Christianity and Buddhism (Hostile intentions towards other faiths, Wanted to destroy other religions)
-Institutionalized his wife (the very same person who just happened to "recieve" the book of the law)
-Drove people to suicide (his followers)
-Drove people to financial ruin (his followers and later, himself)
-Encouraged the union of spirits and man
-Encouraged the use of destructive drugs (to commune with the master alchemist)
-His followers were drug addled and disease ridden
-Thought you could use sodomy and masturbation as a sacrement to "divine" powers
-Was a poor magician even by the standards of those who follow this lie (left a major ritual unfinished)
-Was abandoned by his followers
-Inspired evil in those who accepted his beliefs (Ken Anger, Jimmy Page)
-Surrounded by death
-Openly professed his love and desire to submit his will to "our lady" (the babylon whore, drunk on the blood of the martyrs)
-Do as thou will alone is an evil statement that allows the user to do anything they want as long as they are doing their will (people who think otherwise are deceived)
-Spoke of himself as the Anti-Christ and the beast 666 (even if it was metaphor those ideas represent all that is evil in the world)
-Enouraged a woman to have sex with a goat (in Sicily), then slit its throat upon orgasm.
-Just look at the paintings on the wall in his sicilian retreat
-Wrote poems about sniffing his girlfriend's farts (when celia farts...)
-Was a horrible poet and author
-Thought sodomy was perfect grounds for demonic possession
-Told people to use the blood of the fair haired child in their rituals (His followers claim he used masturbation as a substitute, but that isn't always the case)

thought Mussolini was acting rashly in overthrowing the constitutions...I foresaw that Mussolini would be obliged to play politics just as fatally as his predecessors in order to survive the first few crises of his government. My apprehension has proved only too true. Almost at once, he had to sell his soul to the Vatican in whom a real statesman would have recognized his most dangerous foe. Like the devil, Rome takes care that its part, however fair it seems on the surface, really involves the giving of nothing and the gain of all."

- THE CONFESSIONS

"The explanation of why I left is quite simple and unsensational. I took a villa at Cefalu in Sicily for work and play. We began the day with family prayers; we occasionally celebrated a semi-religious ceremony known as the Gnostic Mass. Several people who were my guests at the "abbey" made imaginative copy out of their visits. Then the Fascists came into power and some foreign newspaper correspondents were asked to leave. And so was I. There was no rough turning-out. I was treated with the greatest of courtesy."

- SUNDAY DISPATCH, 2nd July 1933 e.v.

"I have also ideas which I should like to put before the Soviet...I...want to get the USSR to adopt a state religion."

- Letter to Walter Duranty, November 1929 e.v.


"I am not an Anarchist in your sense of the word: your brain is too dense for any known explosive to affect it. I am not an Anarchist in your sense of the word: fancy a Policeman let loose on Society! Where there exists the burgess, the hunting man, or any man with ideals less than Shelley's and self-discipline less than Loyola's - in short, any man who falls far short of MYSELF - I am against Anarchy, and for Feudalism. Every "emancipator" has enslaved the free...Frater P. sees no use in the employment of such feeble implements as bombs. Nor does he agree even with the aim of the Anarchists, since, although Anarchists themselves need no restraint,

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Amen brother! Lord save that mans soul. He was possed by the devil!

not daring to drink cocoa, lest their animal passions should be aroused (as Olivia Haddon assures my favourite Chela), yet policemen, unless most severely repressed, would be dangerous wild beasts. The last bitter sentence is terribly true...The latest Radical devices for securing freedom have turned nine out of ten Englishmen into Slaves, obliged to report their movements to the Government like so many ticket-of-leave men. The only solution of the Social Problem is the creation of a class with the true patriarchal feeling, and the manners and obligations of chivalry."

Yah you haven't lived till you've had someone poop in your mouth or fucked a goat...apparently...

Do what Thou wilt actually is a reference to the words of Christ in the Lord's Prayer.

The thelemic idea is that the true will of an individual, that is to say the will of the most inmost aspect of his soul is identical to the will of the Father/God.

Therefore doing thy will is doing the Will of God.

To do your physical, earthly and mundane will would be sin against the true will. All that is against the true will of a person has the force of the entire inertia of the universe against him.

Not much. The illuminati did it better way before him. To this day they do it better. Cheap knock off.

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Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. 8"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. 9"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.…

Christcucks please

>Accomplished mountaineer
>didn't a give a fuck about what people thought about him
>wasn't afraid to talk shit about Jews
>misogynist
>admired Hitler until the Nazis banned the OTO
>spied on communists

I read Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts apparently within Crowley's book of law. Crazy shit.

John 14:10King James Version (KJV)

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Colossians 1:18

Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything.


Through Union/marriage to Christ, christ and the church are one. It is said the father dwells within christ and christ within the father, it is said that the church and christ are of one body. Therefore within the church (which is also called his house) is the father.

Can you get off Sup Forums Christians shouldn't be welcome on a white board.

australia everybody
master shitposter

still kinda obvious bait 4.5/10

Christcucks out

Sup Forums is a Christian board... you Maori animist or apostate Anglo

Just another fucking useless jobless and worthless degenerate scoundrel, just like Giuseppe Balsamo aka Cagliostro, who conned his way into occult infamy.

Never accomplished a thing in his life, except fooling you retards, not unlike how Hubbard's sci-fi religion continues to con idiots today.

Secret Agent 666.

Christianity is as white as Islam you stupid burger, I don't expect you to know the difference seeing as so many people think your country is Christian but has a Muslim President .

You're an edgy faggot with daddy issues.

Nero;

He also started performing in public which did not sit well at all with the Roman senators and nobility. After one of these performances his second wife mentioned a mistake he had made, and this comment made him so angry that in his rage he kicked her to death. A while later he saw a man at his royal residence who resembled his wife and he told his officials to make him a woman. After having him castrated and dressed as woman, Emperor Nero started sleeping with him.

When finally there was a rebellion against him across Rome, he told his senators that he will face his enemies, but instead of fighting he will win their hearts by singing. He even assembled an army of singers, dancers and stage performers. Emperor Nero committed suicide when the senate declared him an enemy of the Roman Empire.

one huge degenerate faggot.

he was a satanic faggot. That's about it.

We invited the local Temple of Thelema to come present for our philosophy club, when I was in grad school. I mean, we're a bunch of giant fucking nerds who love dungeons & dragons, and all. We were the grad student, philosophy club, for fuck's sake.

But those motherfuckers took it serious. They started their presentation by "calling the corners" and trying to get me to drink wine out'a a mug their lip-herpes mouths had all touched.

It's just a way for the people that the socially-awkward look down on to get laid by fat girls.

Proven fake. At the time, the church was literally making these shrouds up.

I'm neither, and 90% of the "Christians" on Sup Forums are sad pathetic American LARPers like you, your religion is dying and this is something that I as a white person celebrate.

our illegal president is a faggot muslim
this country isn't christian lmao
its soooo bad

but so are you
you're clearly an immigrant though

nutter who ruined the occult and any/all modern paganism forever

He created all the modern occult and paganism more like. It's all cancerous faggotry

I am an immigrant from eastern Europe. I would never deny that.

Would rep irl

we underage now

>NZ

I was wondering why this bait was so shit

He's a lying huckster.

Not really. Modern occult goes back to the pre-Victorians, but that's who it really comes from. Arthur Conan Doyle was a big influence. There was always an overtone of homosexuality, though. That's been an integral part of "the occult" since it came up. Secret fraternities and ladies doing "seances" as an excuse to make out a little.

Was always kinda gay. Did you know vampire fiction has its roots in an analogy for homosexuality? True facts.

No bait, I wanted to get some Sup Forums views on Crowley, I didn't want to have to deal with Christians, that shit triggers me.

Cool story broheim.

Did any of you slay any hot degenerate satanic pussy at least?

why? Because God is the Truth?
and you like delusions and your sense of mortal pride and jewish disinformation

Yeah but that was just edgy contrarian faggotry.

Crowley made it a system. He is directly linked to modern Kabbalah, Wiccans, Chaos Magik faggotry, Satanism faggotry, left hand path faggotry, even Scientology and ofcourse OTO and Thelemic faggotry

I'd argue the golden dawn is responsible for modern western occultism.

Crowley was a conman.

Died poor alone and in debt.

Guess all that magick worked out pretty well for him.

No. It was sorta embarassing, 'cuz we used a classroom right next to a classroom where Pierce was being taught. So they other class could hear out guests yelling in faux-Sumerian.

I'm not sure if your post was implying I made the story up. That'd be a weirdly-specific thing to make up.

He opened a gate & we've been paying the price in shitstorms ever since.

He should have never done it. Fucked the whole planet.

The Golden Dawn where a bunch of faggot Masonic rejects, Crowley was the only reason they are relevant

Did this guy actually believe in magic?

>Jewish disinformation
Very nice description of the Bible, thanks, I think I'll use that.
And no I hate Christianity for the same reason I hate Islam, it is a religion of submission to a higher power, which I think is an inherently unhealthy philosophy, and like Islam it was spread by the sword and continued to be violent through its history.

No lol

>Sup Forums is a Kek board

So what was the point of his book on magic?

The fact that 99% of his followers these days are flaming liberal faggots means he fucked something up.

If you want the true redpilled occultist, Julius Evola is your man.

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No, I genuinely thought it was a cool story.

I bet they thought they could convert some of you proto-autists.

Disappointed you didn't get any devil pussy though. I bet those crazy bitches are fire in bed.

Tell me something his last name rhymes with, Sheila

I remember his picture from project mayhem 2012.

It's basically pre- LSD era drug and orgasm induced trans states combined with Eastern mysticism the Tarot and Jewish numerology

Jews are more caught up in their babylonian pre-deluge man-made blasphemy doctrines. Most have turned away from the Torah and the rest are Secular.

Only a prideful blind man could look at the artistry of the sunsets and the earth and heavens and think nothing but sentient ice crystals or random atoms slammed together to create a harmonious world of cycles, patterns and order.

>crowley's outlandish antics and claim made golden dawn relevent

Actually the opposite there.

Eastern mysticism involves magic famalam, though they don't call it that

The only part he was interested in was meditation(trance) and tantric fucking

Jesus was against organized religion.

if Christianity is evil we must look further: satanism, occult, Islam

those are more socially accepted

I didn't say I was an atheist, I beleive that there is some kind of spiritual existence, I am just convinced that Christianity is wrong. This comes from someone that was baptised and raised eastern Orthodox.

>meditation(trance) and tantric fucking
kek, so why does this guy exist? This shit has already been written about in depth

Because edgy satanic orgies bra

Ever heard of Augustus Invictus?

You'll love the guy if you're actually a Thelemjte

The "Higher power" is "Truth". everyone submits to truth. Especially science and atheists.

All of their shit is available. Israel Regardie has the entire Golden Dawn system available on Amazon. Crowley has the same claptrap he developed most of their rituals and he took over the order so clearly they where just a bunch of fags

useful idiot advertised by communists. Just another snake oil salesman for poor fools

Nah, he's just a special kind of loony with no self control.

>le do what thou wilt guys its totally cool haha
>le magick is great and you can cast the most powerful magick by sacrificing a pre-pubescent male

degenerate faggot are two words that come to mind when thinking of Crowley

maybe you should study each religion and figure out which ones are absolutely bullshit

and look at the world now

the truth is always persecuted

hindus worship fallen angels and spirits
buddhists worship a delusional man
pagans worship old babylonian renamed deities
shamans are careless possessed/necromancers
muslims worship a dual sexed moon god/goddess
shinto is an extremely primitive philosophical/spiritual ideology

Judaism/Hebrews is the source religion
Christianity is the sound prophecy that the Jews rejected

it was their prophecy and they didn't want it because it wasn't good enough for them (didn't make them all powerful)

there aren't any other religions

>finding beauty within an ordered universe

Your founding concepts of beauty are largely formed by internal genetic mechanisms which, like the garden plants which grow towards the Sun, are embedded into you, and are not decisively yours alone to claim as individual appreciation.

You're simply responding to stimuli. Nothing more.

The churnings of the greater and smaller spheres are not the handwriting of divinity. They simply are what they are, the mechanisms of the universe.

You're projecting what you want the universe to be. Try simply accepting your surroundings for what they really are.

>Christianity is the sound prophecy that the Jews rejected

Christianity has been doctored and bastardized too much over it's history.

It doesn't even adhere to the principles that their dead martyr died to teach them.

It's nothing more than a power funnel, if you think that's truth, I pity you.

This is why I go on Sup Forums because you bastatds are some of the smartest people alive.
Unfortunately, we're not all like tha, though.

Fun fact: my school is new the school he went to: Tonbridge School. My History teacher went to that school too and told us about Alistair. No doubt Tonbridge School has some information on what he was like at a young age, and some of his first steps into the occult.

Thelema is silly horseshit, Crowly died with a few cans of soup on his shelves and was a sadist, constantly unhappy with his life. Entropy shows us that unity and his silly pseudo science true will every be happy stuff is shill jew dogshit.

>28 1/2
>1/2

WRONG!! MOTHER FUCKER! "Judaism/Hebrews is the source religion" The Enûma Eliš Predates all Judaism and Hebrew Garbage! God was a mother fucking dragon made of pure darkness! It is the first know creation myth, and Tiamat is the first known god in mankinds history! fILTHY JEWS TRIED TO REWRITE HISTORY religioustolerance.org/com_geba.htm

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>tantric fucking
i kek'd hard

machine elves aren't god, they are guides.

Enûma Eliš was created like 7 b.c. It predates all Judaism, or Hebrew Garbage, and goes back beyond even 7 b.c. according to studies. We're just going off the tablets. Read the fucking link, all of genesis was stolen from it. Source religion my mother fucking dick.

He was a rampaging degenerate, he was basically an ultra degenerate with intelligence and know how to do shit with the occult so he was a high power level degenerate, but to an Australian that might just be an idol or someone to look up to

They are demons. They are very intelligent and they will pretend to be benevolent. Do not trust them.