/csg/ - Christianity General: Beautiful Churches Edition

For all things Christian

Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants alike are welcome to discuss theology. Try to be polite.

Atheists also welcome, but try to be constructive.

Pastebin for believers and curious folk.
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Pastebin for Orthodox
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Today's readings (Catholic):
Reading: 1 Kings 17:1-6
Psalm: 121:1-8
Gospel: Matt 5:1-12


Good Scenes to watch

>Jesus Anime
youtube.com/watch?v=8d-uB0vaoQo
>Jesus of Nazareth Sermon on the Mount:
youtube.com/watch?v=MDCbJ4vnMNg
>Jesus chases Jews out of the Temple
youtube.com/watch?v=kEtBs6j7QgU
>Jesus gives sight to the Blind....and takes sight from those who can see
youtube.com/watch?v=pY7vamVg99E
>Roman Centurion has more faith than anyone in Israel
youtube.com/watch?v=SNLSBjYDPko

>Ben Hur scenes
youtube.com/watch?v=tVlf7OiiTJE
youtube.com/watch?v=Fbt2UUthWg0

>Why Atheists shouldn't discourage Christianity even if they don't believe in it
youtube.com/watch?v=vqQdc0mX1_c

>Thread Theme
youtube.com/watch?v=h5YEKO04RDI

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=YGKzdddrmgA
youtube.com/watch?v=OgOitVtAgXA
my.mixtape.moe/yerinm.webm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation
youtube.com/watch?v=X_mJgVwQ3Qw
twitter.com/AnonBabble

There was already one of these

My brother
youtube.com/watch?v=YGKzdddrmgA

I went to church for the first time one month ago today, for a Vespers service.
On the 19th, my priest is going to induct me as a catachumen.
And then it's a year until I'm a full member of the Orthodox faith.
Thanks, /csg/.

what do you mean, user? :3

We've gone through two in a few hours.

>mfw
youtube.com/watch?v=OgOitVtAgXA

Good for you, user. Good luck with everything.

These threads seem to be working great. There's tons of people coming in to ask about the faith, tbqh.

webm to appreciate it with a cool video, very spiritually uplifting
my.mixtape.moe/yerinm.webm

Idk lads.
Maybe we should build mosques.
You know, progressive.
t. not a swede

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>These threads seem to be working great. There's tons of people coming in to ask about the faith, tbqh.
Those who hear the truth shall open their ears sooner or later

Whenever I turn my mind towards religion, I'm bombarded by blasphemous thoughts. Like seriously disgusting blasphemy. Always make me give up..

Is this normal? Is it demons?

Could be. He works hard to turn you away from God via a lot of sins.

What are some of the thoughts you have, user?

I'm gunna get rekt at my first confession.
>what have you done since your last confession
This is my first confession. You need to tell everyone else to come back next week.

Does it call to you the way /d/ calls to me?
You have to stay strong, user.

yes, ask for mercy, the Lord is the only one who can wash out our sins, and start walking in the light

What will converting to Catholocism do for me? I am extremely depressed and have no reason to live, I am poor and unemployed.

Honestly, priests hear a lot of fucked up things. Don't worry about letting it all out, he's there to help you. Confess any major sins you can remember and then just ask for forgiveness of those that you can't remember.

That's all you need to do. God bless, brother.

don't worry user. There's nothing you can possibly say during confession that a priest has never heard before.
Afterwards you will feel amazingly better, knowing those sins have been forgiven by Our Lord.

it will do pic related.

Doesn't your Baptism take care of pre-Christian sins?

but it will also do pic related.
God helps and protects his flock. He will give you sanctifying grace if you start walking with, but Christianity isn't a magic recipe for being happy, at least not in the normie meaning of the word. Either way you should speak to a priest first, he will be able to guide you through the phases necessary for conversion and to understand the doctrine of the faith.

Thank you, user. Another question: being raised in a liberal brainwashing state, people have convinced me that Jesus was, essentially, this spineless male who was all about peace and love and would be a socialist SJW type. As if he was a one dimensional cartoon guy. What do you think about thi? Did Jesus have any balls?

yes, it washes away sins committed before baptism

Think about it this way. Jesus is literally God. He came on earth for the sole purpose of being spat on, tortured and killed by ungrateful kikes, so that we could share eternal life and dwell in his glory in heaven. If you were God, would you do that? Subject yourself to pain and death for humans? I think that alone takes ball of titanium.
Also people forget that the God of the OT is Jesus too. He came first as a merciful saviour, but in his second coming he will be a sever judge. He will condemn all the unbelievers and the sinners to the fires of hell. Edgy people on all sides of the spectrum will find out to a dear price how "spineless" Jesus is.
Buddy Jesus is a misconception of people who have abandoned the faith and therefore analyse Jesus separating him from his mission, his divine nature and his intervention throughout human history.

I'm self employed, affluent and suffer from depression. You can be Catholic or Orthodox and feel part of something very beautiful.
Unity or something. It's cosy. Religion means something again.
You're part of something greater. You don't need to believe. God is in the people.
Okay that's probably not Christian or Catholic.
So nice though. Unity.

about losing your salvation

> God’s gifts and calling can’t be taken back.

you can reject them tho

*and let us dwell

His gifts and his call come from Jesus though. Of course a sinner keeps being called by Him until death. About gifts: you can be baptised and reject the faith, the gift remains, you don't have to baptise again. Get what I mean?
So I don't think that is a good refutation.

Has the Lord cursed Richard Dawkins too madness?

I've heard from some Catholic converts online that it gives them a will to live because they have a new found purpose. I don't mean this in a way that it would be an easy transition/life, but you will feel more at peace as you grow in faith (especially if you improve your prayer life).

God bless.

Oh my

Is that true?

sources?

the only way to lose your salvation is to reject God
it's hard if you are baptised in adulthood to reject him, it was your choice, that's a problem with baptising babies

That swan was clearly a Protestant Muslim.
Dawkins is doing what Catholic scientists have always done.
He has come around to the threat we face currently. He is a lad.

No the last one is a joke based on him saying more and more ridiculous things on social media

Thank you user. I am screencapping all of your words to reflect further. I am at a difficult time in my life right now. I am living and in a relationship with a Muslim Bosnian woman and we just had a son. I don't think that she is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with. I am uncertain of the future. She supports me for the most part. I want to live nearby so I can raise my son, convert to Catholicism and raise him as a Catholic as well. This is going to be tough over the next year or two.

Richard Dawkins is going to embrace religion towards the end of his life.

>the only way to lose your salvation is to reject God
Rejecting wrong means you disobey him. For example if the Catholic Church is true and you are not part of it, you are partially disobeying God and therefore rejecting him.
>it's hard if you are baptised in adulthood to reject him
Come on, plenty of people who do. Also if they die unbaptised it's a very big problem for them. Who knows how many souls have been lost because of this. Baptism is so that the soul is saved even though you die as a child. What you try to do with baptism, we do with confirmation:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation

Christ said follow him not the church, Christ is what saves us, not the church, if the church helps you to be closer with Jesus, go to it, but you arent saved by going to the church. Baptism doesnt save you, you do it cus you have faith in Christ, that faith saves you

What matters is that you raise the child. The rest is more compliated and I don't think I have the expertise to give good advice.
Wish you the best brother, God bless you

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We need him to not.
He's a firebrand. We've always needed firebrands.
Well, maybe not Luther to create a schism that divided Christianity and Europe and cost millions of lives for centuries..
A biologist professor and meme master is fine though.
He's admitted Christianity is a bulwark against something much more insidious.

Where do you think you are?

Following Jesus becomes an empty word if you don't define exactly how to follow him. The purpose of a unified Church with a structure, with sacraments, with apostolic succession is exactly that.
God is absolute truth, there is only truth in Him. He would never accept that members of his Church have conflicting views about the Truth that is in Him.
This is what I think you fail to understand. Yes, those who believe are the Church, but believing entails also following the Way, the Truth and the Life to perfection. That is why the Catholic Church is the way it is. The deposit of the Faith is preserved from error and by adhering to it, you adhere to the fullness of Truth. That is why Catholics say that protestant denominations are in "partial communion" with Rome, in the sense that they have partial truth, but not the fullness of it. We cannot say that you are destined to hell, but because of this reality your chances get much slimmer. The gate is narrow for Catholics too, you know? Most Catholics go to hell too even though we have the fullness of truth. The gate is very very very very narrow.
>Baptism doesnt save you
It does, we are suppoed to be born of water and Spirit.
>that faith saves you
The faith pushes you to be part of the Church and get the Sacraments though. I guess this way you could explain the necessity of works. Think about it....if God gave us the sacraments as a gift, aren't they nonetheless works? If you reject them, aren't you showing a lack of faith in Christ? The answer is yes. That is the big problem for you if you are wrong user.

A son needs his father, the most important male role model in his life.

If you plan to divorce: take things slowly. Make sure you have a plan that doesn't end up with her getting custody and 50% of your paycheck.

Why does Judas get a bad rap? He fulfilled Scripture, which (short of being the 2nd person during the End Times) is pretty neat.

he didn't repent and killed himself instead

happeningger

you keep saying that the church is the way, it isnt, Christ is the way. im not saying that the church is bad, you can be guided in the begining of your faith by study groups and feel part of it, but just to get closer to Jesus

sacraments are traditions, they do not save you, accepting Jesus sacrifice saves you

Are you some form of protestant?

i just follow Christ

youtube.com/watch?v=X_mJgVwQ3Qw

Praying in a community setting in church really helps, mate. Were you originally Catholic?

>you keep saying that the church is the way, it isnt, Christ is the way
The point is that the Church preserves the right way to follow Christ. Do you understand what I mean? Jesus is the way, but what if you take the wrong way without noticing? The Church is there for this.
> but just to get closer to Jesus
I try to get closer to Jesus day after day

The sacraments can be found in Scripture btw:
Baptism – John 3:5, Matthew 28:18-19
Confirmation – Acts 8:14-17
Reconciliation / Confession – John 20:21-23
The Eucharist – Matthew 26:26-28, John 6:53-55
Matrimony – Matthew 19:5-6
Holy Orders – Titus 1:5
Sacrament of the Sick – James 5:14-15

Either way Tradition is a real thing, it is not man-made invention. In fact these so called "man-made" invention, for some reason, are 95% the same among Churches that go from Rome, to Ethiopia, to India, places that had no contact with each other but developed an almost identical Sacred Tradition. That is because they had apostolic succession as an apostle went there to preach and build churches. Men-made inventions wouldn't have that level of coherence.

St. Paul's Cathedral, Kolkata

looks nice

>Were you originally Catholic?
yeah

im okey with all those things, like Jesus said: The Sabbath was created for humans; humans weren’t created for the Sabbath. What im traying to say, they dont save you

India lads checking in.
Wew btw, impressive.

>What im traying to say, they dont save you
And you misunderstand their significance. They are necessary to keep us in a state of grace. They are necessary to retain salvation, which of course given to us for free by Christ

St. Joseph's Cathedral, Hyderabad

St. Philomena's, Mysore

this

How are Christians treated in India?

Already refuted your interpretation of that verse. You are going around circles now.

Are you a Christian?
I love the Mahabharata too. Dat Bhima, lad knew how to handle a mace and Krishna who is basically your Christ. I mean, he is.
Based lad.

you jumped and said rejecting means disobeing him. that's wrong, you can be the black sheep of your family, but you are still part of the family

In well developed areas they are treated normal, Hindus don't mind Christians and Christ. In fucked up areas, well they are treated badly but everybody is treated badly in fucked up areas.

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Immaculate Conception Cathedral, Pondicherry

I am a Hindu btw but find Christianity nice too. I find every religion okay except the islam, nothing good came from that.

>I am a Hindu btw but find Christianity nice too. I find every religion okay except the islam, nothing good came from that.
I love you sir.
You have a beautiful heritage.

Thank you. I like you guys too. You guys have built pretty amazing things here especially the railways.

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St. Francis Xavier Cathedral, Bangalore

Boy I sure am glad we're talking about pretty looking buildings. This is what Christianity is all about

Nope.
John 3:36
The second word used here means "disobey". Scripture clearly tell us pretty much everywhere that to believe means to have faith and do the will of the Lord. Believing without obeying His commandments is an empty and therefore dead faith.
>you can be the black sheep of your family, but you are still part of the family
wut? No. There are no black sheeps in heaven.

Joint Christian-Hindu crusade against muslims when?

Based. Namaste.

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ITT: Cucks

Good morning user :3
wow, I am #fedoramissile now

Hindus are always up for anything against muslims.

Namaste

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Sacred Heart, Shimoga

I'm half Irish and he's saying tell the Brits to fuck themselves and their little country..

Are you the same Czech guy who always posts the cuck stuff in these threads?

Christians love immigration

We also love you, user :3

Hey guys, i was just wondering, how could you be good goy and proud, and yet visit Sup Forums?

I mean, is there a more blue-pilled religion then cucktianity?

Also, did you licked some muslim feet today?

if you are a real Christian you dont your salvation

>wut? No. There are no black sheeps in heaven.
we dont enter heaven with this body

Praha where a lad bets you a grill wont blow you for a tenner. And they do! Absolute madgrills

Recently started getting interested in religion again
I was raised a baptist but the whole Protestant "jesus rock band" and "appeal to the youth with new age christian memes" is really turning me off
I have been extremely interested in attending mass at the local Catholic church because it seems alot more mature, and just all around more spiritual
Any tips for a christian leaning towards becoming catholic?
Would i even be able to attend mass?
Any pointers in general would be welcome

pic unrelated

Hey guys, did you know that Jesus literally said " I tell you not to resist an evil person."

Christianity is "if you kill your enemies, they win"

Well sure we were screwed by the Brits too but they invaded us and we lost. We were not there people, so I don't think they had to treat us better, I think we had to defended us better. If the roles were reversed we would have done the same to Brits.

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Our Lady Of Ransom Church, Kanyakumari

Glad that these are still on going and seem to have much more numbers then they used to a year back.

I for one think we shouldn't let Protestants post here. Damned heretics the whole lot of them.

Do you also love muslim immigrants user?

Does your god also love the islamic invaders that are now flooding west?

Are you actively helping them?
Licking their feet?

Cuck...

This is a few blocks from my house.
This church is beautiful.
i'm protestant. BTW.

>>St. Innocent Russian Orthodox Cathedral

why are you always here?

like seriously

what could possibly make this amusing to you?

If you don't like then leave

lol

>if you are a real Christian you dont your salvation
And who decides who is a real Christian? I have already explained you how it works. I am not going to do it again. If you don't want to see the truth, up to you. Hopefully in the future you change your mind.

>we dont enter heaven with this body
You are missing the point. Your analogy didn't make any sense.

If you are looking for a spiritural experience attend a latin mass, not the Novus Ordo. Look for FSSP (not SSPX, they are not in communion with Rome)
Complimentary chant:
youtube.com/watch?v=OgOitVtAgXA
>Any tips for a christian leaning towards becoming catholic?
Speak to a priest. In the meanwhile learn how to pray the Rosary
>Would i even be able to attend mass?
Yes, absolutely, just don't take the eucharist. If you take it without doing the confession and being in a state of grace, it is a mortal sin.

THIS

I love the people, I just hate the disease they carry (Islam) and don't want them here

Of course, but I especially love you user :3
Tell me about your day, how do you pass it usually? How old are you? At what age did you decide to wear a fedora? Tell us about your life

Good morning user! :3

If we had have treated you properly you'd still be with us. Sad fact of empire... You don't treat folk well.
All Americas fault now. We're teflon coated.

> Pathetic beta cucks pretending to be important and somehow beneficial for society
> What could be possibly amusing to you

Well I knew christcucks are stupid but man, today I don't even have to try.

Do you also believe that universe was created in 7 days? =D

>just don't take the eucharist
I don't remember that term ever being used in my churches, maybe by a different name
What is it?

>And who decides who is a real Christian?
your own heart is going to judge you

there are just two ways to see salvation
- you dont have it
- you have it

>You are missing the point. Your analogy didn't make any sense.
there are people who do bad things but want to improve, are you going to condemn them?