Which of these two is more pathetic?

Which of these two is more pathetic?

dortmund has a program of actually making players out of nowher.
cant call a team pathetic when half their players are younger than 22-23 in order to sell them.

Yeah well so does Ajax and they're nothing but a glorified incubator right now

Dortmund
>beaten by energy brewage babby made up team of sandwich board men with no history

Juventus.

Yes but the difference is Dortmund has kept being top level and doing so for more than 5 years.
Ajax just had a good seasons with its 19yos,losy champ tho.

What did RBL win this season?

None of those 2 teams are pathetic. Both manage to make competitive teams out of new and young players, despite losing star players every years.

If anything their scouting divisions are quite capable.

Juve, the specialst in Champions League Finale Failure

20 games

Dortmund. Even the fucking energy drink is better than them now.

Didn't they finish before Dortmund?

>patetico

So what did they win?

dirtmund at least have one CL (yeah, they played >juventus I know)

BVB at least play good football and have cute players like Kagawa and Gotze, Patetico is murderball team full of thugs

Dortmund at least reaches the CL quarterfinals almost every year, Ajax usually doesn't even manage to get out of the group stage these days

Juve

Dortmund

dirtmund because they solely exist to breed new players for other teams

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isn't dortmund the team which buys all the "good but not bayern good" players from other teams in the league? like buyern v0.5?

Arsenal

Ok dortmund

Atleti are bigger cucks though

exactly this
they're actually far worse than Bayern in this regard

because Buyern destroyed the league to a point where there are no players good enough for Bayern anymore.

Jjuventus

>because Buyern destroyed the league to a point where there are no players good enough for Bayern anymore.

Wrong. Bayern simply cant get the best players anymore. Keita/Aubameyang/Dembele are not available and never will be for Bayern.

Now they are forced to poach low-contract players like:

>Süle
>Rudy
>Goretzka

>atletico
>several seasons in a row performing way over their average
>somehow pathetic

Dortmund at least has a CL.

They were also financially performing way over their budget it seems.

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thats the thing tho user. like the other user said, theyre just incubators. how can their fans be satisfied with that? yes theyre competitive, but they arent elite

they always have been, as have most spanish clubs for years

So many hipsters on Sup Forums. Fuck this shit.

Only team that Atletico can't beat in last 4 CL is Real Madrid. Borussia is getting btfo but every decent team.
Its Dortmund

BVB because they sell their players to their main rival like the good cuck they are, some times even for free like lewa

letting world class players run out their contract is the opposite of cuckery

not when they are waiting for it to run out to join your rival FOR FREE

>Which of these two is more pathetic?
This one

Definetly Cuckmund

Atlético has the "pathetic" in his own name.
>Patético de Madrid