News: >Chape is becoming Leicester and still leads this shit >Mayor will perform DNA tests to find Garrincha's remains >Sassá survives a car crash, one person dead >Dorival Jr. dismissed from Santos, Levir Culpi will replace him >Éverton Ribeiro signs with Flamengo >Vasco interested in Léo Valencia (Palestino - CHI) >Copa do Brasil quarter-finals were drawn (Atlético-MG x Botafogo, Flamengo x Santos, Atlético-PR x Grêmio and Palmeiras x Cruzeiro)
Today >20:00 - Fluminense x Atlético-PR (game not counting for Cartola F.C.)
Tomorrow >19:30 - Coritiba x Palmeiras >19:30 - Atlético-MG x Avaí >21:00 - Santos x Botafogo >21:45 - Sport Recife x Flamengo >21:45 - Chapecoense x Grêmio >21:45 - Vasco da Gama x Corinthians
Thursday >19:30 - Atlético-GO x Ponte Preta >19:30 - São Paulo x EC Vitória >21:00 - Bahia x Cruzeiro
Is the team good? Who are the players? Is all (((media))) propaganda due to muh plane?
Isaiah Howard
>Éverton Ribeiro Is he still as good as he was with Cruzeiro before he went to China?
Gavin Cox
BRfag here
Chape is a fairly new team (about 40 years), but it spent most of it on a semi-pro level, playing more regionally. They started to take the shit seriously after they qualified to Série D in 2009, managed to climb all the way to the Série A in only six years and never got relegated ever since. Even before the crash they were well-known for having a very distinct administration style, tending to scout cost-benefitial players instead of expensive ones with lack of commitment or behavioral issues.
Still is, not NT material but above average for domestic footy
Hudson Green
Second answer to
James Foster
No one knows.
Isaiah Wright
>loan out dead wood from other Brazilian teams >the players start to perform way better there than in their former clubs >chape is a serious title contender and not just a midtable club after the plane crash pretty based if ask me
also: Seijas is playing like a world class in Chape while Inter is getting BTFO in Série B lmfao
Josiah Williams
>chape is a serious title contender
lol
reminder that Internacional was top of the table by this time last year.
Thomas Harris
What's this lad up to these days?
Easton Davis
>plays as CB at Vasco da Gama
Hudson Cruz
actually he is being consistent... Paulão on the other hand...
Jaxson Ward
They also do a motivational "thing" for the athletes, integrating their families into the daily life of the club and creating a comfy work environment between the players, staff and the fans.
Joshua Morris
Umbro has to have the most ugly logo
Brandon Garcia
VAMO GREMIO CARALHO
John Thompson
Literally no one follows football in China, Japan or the middle east. Teams just buy players from there based on their names and hope they didn't go to shit in the meanwhile.
Jonathan Reyes
mano menezes was a great fan of chinese foot y
Nicholas Cox
Red pill me on Vitor Hugo
Jason Hill
Which is the most patrician team and which is the team that plays good football and has a lof of possession?
Lincoln Martinez
...
John Jones
He was very good for the last couple of years, was signed as a literally who from second division and became Palmeiras best defender, leading them to 2 national titles in 2 years, even got a call-up to the hue NT. His form dropped a bit this season, but this might have to do with you filthy italians trying to sign him. Fantastic in the air, very fast, good on one-on-ones, really charismatic, but not so good with the ball on his feet.
Zachary Myers
I hope he'll be good because he signed today
Christopher James
>tfw enjoying watching this young goat play while I can before some euro fuck inevitably buys him
>paraguayan-nationalized argentinian playing for the brazilian league Actually drives you to ponder
Jackson Powell
Really doubt that.
2 years playing football which might as well be uncompetitive friendlies tends to make a player rusty.
This cunt should've gone to United or Milan, even if he'd be a benchwarmer at United, but NOOOO, of course he follows the biggest paycheck, fuck developing.
Also fuck Flamerda, I hope he flops.
Michael Green
When he arrived here to play for Palm Trees, he was scoring like a maniac, then injuries, bad physical shape and general meme factors affected his performances, he spent basically a year permabenched then left for Grêmio. He is now scoring like a maniac on his first six months there, I can sense the cycle repeating.
Adrian Hall
>the city of internacional
Dominic Williams
>Internacional LOL
Levi Lopez
really makes you think huh
Jose Wright
This Andrei Girotto (whoscored.com/Players/279380/Show/Andrei-Girotto) I had never heard about before last month is well on track to become the best DM in Brazil (which he is as of matchday 4), and he's been superb in Libertadores as well. He was roaming in the lower leagues forever on loan until the Chape accident. That Luiz Otávio guy (whoscored.com/Players/298909/Show/Luiz-Otavio) also has everything to become one of the best CBs in the country. He was dirt poor, picking trash and doing odd jobs until 2 years ago, and he's already 24.
The lower leagues here are just PACKED with talent, because the scouting is so poor, lack of infrastructure, and there's too much corruption between agents and clubs, so some real gems go unchecked. The trial system is so poor you can barely even name a single NT player who didn't get rejected at a few clubs - Ronaldo was rejected at Flamengo, Cafu was rejected 7 time at São Paulo and Palmeiras, Thiago Silva was deemed not good enough for Flamengo and Vasco... yet the system refuses to acknowledge chance, just so they can pocket some more bucks. Just to give some current examples, with whoscored links just for reference since stats don't mean everything:
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Brayden Rivera
- Éverton Ribeiro (best player in the league in 2013 and 2014) and Marcos Rocha (best RB in 2012, 13, 14 and 15 whoscored.com/Players/74447/History/Marcos-Rocha) both played in the lower leagues until 2011. Both players are like 28. - Lucas Lima (best nr. 10 in 2014 and 2015 whoscored.com/Players/115894/History/Lucas-Lima) was a benchwarmer for Inter and was loaned to the lower leagues until 2013. He's 27 and will be 28 when he first sets foot in Europe next January on a free. - João Paulo (the CM/AM botafogo signed from Santa Cruz whoscored.com/Players/104866/History/João-Paulo) played in Séries B and C until 2014 after warming Inter's bench for years He's now 25 and beginning his 2nd season at a Série A club. - Matheus Galdezani (who just signed with Coritiba and is one hell of a DM/CM), is playing Série A for the first time at 25 (whoscored.com/Players/283385/Show/Matheus-Galdezani)
It's a real shame to see this happen while clubs spend 300k-700k/month in wages to sign overrated, lazy shitters who flopped/didn't impress in leagues even weaker than ours like Portugal, Ukraine and Russia, EVERY SEASON. And it seems the yuropeens on /spee/ and elsewhere have this weird misconception that "if he was good enough he'd have come to yurop already", when that couldn't be further from the truth, the brazilian leagues still have loads of great players in every position, and good and great players, young and old, slip through the cracks ALL THE TIME for all sorts of reasons.
Vasco just spent the whole of last year in Série B and they didn't sign a single player from there. But HEY let's sign Muriqui and Escudero, that sounds smart, right? Meanwhile Chape just built a squad of loanees who either impressed in Série B or were warming the bench for the big Série A clubs, and now they're topping the league (and it's not just because we're at the beginning, their team is actually strong).
Christopher Ramirez
*blocks your path* *tackles you*
Joseph Lopez
*covers Léo Moura* *covers Kannemann* *clears the ball safely* *also blocks your path*
Isaiah Myers
our guys
Henry Thompson
>le buy overrated players midseason trying to get a scrappy Libertadores spot only to get knocked out in the group stage team He WILL flop
Adam White
/muhboy/ Kannemann, didn't know what happened with him after he left for a meme mexican team. Glad to see he's "back"
Nathaniel Williams
This is the ideal player, you may not like it, but this is what peak performance and voltando pra marcar o lateral looks like
Brandon Barnes
>only team in the city >already got a lot of taxes reductions and benefits
>plane crash >win a title they would never win it in a normal night
>they manage to get better players than before
Wyatt Wilson
...
Jonathan Kelly
I don't know, i thiink they could win against narconal imo. Sometimes i get the feel that the refs are going easy on them during this Brasileirão
Aiden Ortiz
>the city of Atletico
Jacob Lewis
>all the atléticos >vasco not even near this zone
Hudson Peterson
They're 3 points away from the relegation zone, they are very close.
Jacob Diaz
undoubtedly they would have won, Caio Jr. team was much more solid than this one
they won't go down, at least this year because of MM
Austin Edwards
>being this sure of stuff >in brazilian football, of all things
Parker Hall
What's your opinion on Sao Paulo?
Are they GOAT?
Joshua Howard
>Poor management >Meme coach >Average squad >Best players being already sold
São Paulo confirmed for relegation contender this season
Gabriel Cox
São Paulo has a decent amount of history. A few /copalib/, Club WC champions, 6 times /brg/ champions, had a fair share of success on the 90s and 00s and revealed a few players like Kaká, Cafu, Cerezo.
But nowadays is poorly managed, has a former-top-scorer-old-gk-who-wanted-to-coach-his-club meme tier coach and relies on old players like Lugano to appease its delluded crowd.
Brayden Watson
>i didnt knew those players, so they didnt existed Andrei Girotto was in Palmeiras just a couple of years ago, was very important in the side that won the Brazilian Cup, while Luis Otavio has been linked with lots of big clubs for the past seasons and has even been capped for Brazil at youth level.
Michael Bailey
In terms of titles and consistency, they're the biggest club in Brazil. I'm a believer that those are not the only parameters to define the GOAT Brazilian club, but they're up there in the dispute with 3 or 4 other clubs.
Currently, they have a guaranteed bottom half team, and that has some relation with they selling anyone that plays a bit above average there. They lose their most promising players, this is bad, but usually gain a lot of money from it, which is good, and the result is this pretty mediocre squad.
Aaron Cook
On the pitch, they do have lots of titles, but they havent won anything in the past 5 years, and their fanbase is the definition of bandwagoners (they regularly play for crowds of less than 10k people despite having the biggest stadium of all serie a teams, and their management will often sell tickets at literally 1 dollar or do like 2-for-1 promotions to try and get more people).
Hunter Brooks
Thanks guys, sounds like a big club being poorly run and riding off past glory..
Whats the whole story with them and Bambis? Is that a jab at their supporters?
Ryan Johnson
how will Coritiba vs Palmeiras end today?
Elijah Anderson
because Vampeta (Corinthians striker) trash talked São Paulo in a live interview and called them Bambis after a loss to Corinthians in the late 90s.
Joshua Green
Ademilson Braga He's playing magnificent at Gamba Osaka, J League side Thank you São Paulo for this wonderful player Brazil san
Hunter Turner
But Kayke Moreno wasn't so good as we expect that he was the best Is he playing fine back in Brazil?
Aaron Cooper
shitty player, japbro
Jayden Green
for the sake of my /cartola/ i hope coritiba wins
Brody Clark
The Palmtrees are performing poorly in the league with the shitty excuse of 'M-MUH LIBERTADORES'. But, in reality, the team is weak.
Sad! I had faith when the season started.
Henry Hill
Thanks SEP
Joshua Williams
*Cross the ball *Teleports between them *Scores a header *psss nothing personell kids
Sebastian Sanders
I'm told that he had a fight with Neymar on twitter lately That was hilarious and particulous
Jaxon Edwards
go bump my cum
Oliver Foster
São Paulo always had the fame of being the gays club here, especially among the players (some have said that homosexuality ran rampant on the club back in the days, with one of their biggest legends, Raí, being well known as a closeted homosexual). Then the incident mentioned, and the general population started to call them Bambis (for those who dont know, Bambi is a slang for faggots), Its even funnier because they get extremely mad when you call them that, and their fame as the official gay club here in Brazil got even bigger after they signed Rycharlison, one of the gayest players to ever play the game (despite denying to this day that he is gay, which is pretty obvious if you ever seen him).
Looks like Gonzalo Higuaín got injured and Sampaoli is about to call Lucas Pratto to replace him. If that happens, Pratto won't play tomorrow and will fuck a lot of /cartolas/ up
Mano is backwards, outdated, anti-intellectual, always dies hugging his panelas and was one of the most corrupt NT coaches ever, #1 in shady callups from his agent's players just so he could pocket some money.
Jason Sullivan
>brazilian chan goes down 30 bings before the game Guess I'll have to shitpost in english for a change.
What did I say about Galdezani? This man will become a god if he really cucks Palmeiras.
Jonathan Taylor
>the city of Palmeiras
Adrian Wright
>even pondering going against Leader Thigh
wew lad
Andrew Cruz
That's because Chape has an efficient, hardworking, italo-germanic administration. They're not a """""clube de regatas"""""
Josiah Morgan
Actually this
>no other sports to worry about >all the board are made of true businessmen >moneyball based squad
Parker Hill
SOU O PALMEIRAS MAMEI NA PARMALAT FIQUEI FORTE ERA O GUARANI COM SORTE PASSEI MAL E CAI MAS NA MAMAE CREFISA EU MAMEI AGORA SOU RICO COMO UM BANQUEIRO VIREI A PORTUGUESA COM DINHEIRO
Josiah Morales
Cucai quando?
Matthew Fisher
Avaí playing Alt. Memeiro off the park.
If it wasn't for Victor they'd be 1-3.
Nicholas Gray
>ready to kill some possums
Julian Campbell
too bad its at these ungodly hours
Ayden Butler
how the fuck Palmeiras is losing to everyone? i think Felipe Melo is the problem
