PRO-GUN THREAD

PRO-GUN THREAD
sick of seeing "the only way to stop shootings is to ban "X" type of guns/gun accessories, this does not stop people from killing eachother. Guns are not the problem the bad people with the guns are the problem. Discuss and try to be at the very least somewhat civil

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If gus were banned those 2 robbers wouldn't be able to get them in the first place.

Nice try

Keep your gun and shot yourself in head or whatever you want just stop making these threads

I know this is bait but fuck it im hungry. What's to stop people who really want guns to kill and destroy the lives of others from buying them through nefarious means? Perhaps the answer is not to bans guns but crack down on illegal guns coming into countries such as america. Maybe the FBI should at least investigate when they get serious and multiple info about an imminent shooting take florida for example. The answer is simple stand up for you and your country dont let people take away rights out of impulse.

The problem is that modern life is miserable, confining, and all around shit.

You first.

I can't believe nobody has brought up metal detectors. Jesus fucking christ. Put a metal detector at the door and leave all other doors locked. You can only get in after going through the metal detector and being buzzed in

>UK has severely restricted access to guns
>Murder rate is 5 times lower than the US
>Gun death rate 30 times lower than the US
>No school shootings

but muh gunz keeps me safe

So why not improve upon it instead of taking away rights? Im no genius clearly perhaps the systems we have in place do not work and that is evident by the shooting in florida FBI and police were either too afraid or too lazy to respond. Maybe the answer is everyone should try harder do their part who knows. Thats why I feel its important to talk even if on a platform like this where ridicule over the slightest thing is part of the culture.

US is the size of Europe. I'm sick of you eurofags and commies trying to compare the US to single European countries. We have states bigger than UK. What are the murder stats for the whole of western Europe? Can you provide those?

Yes a country with a fraction of the population to the US will have a fraction of the crime very cool stat.
Now what are the stats of violent crime calculating for that? I would dare say UK edges out or is virtually identical to the US.

Murder rates are /100.000 people. Size does not matter.

The US is the only developed nation with this problem and this level of gun violence. The only difference is access to weapons.

An absolute breach of privacy. If someone is going to school then they are going to have a *lot* of metal things on them. Really impractical.

nobody brought up metal detectors because it's an idiotic idea...sheesh

They got em in the hood. They had them at my high school. Very practical. Minors don't need privacy at school you dolt

And you realize most murders in the US are a result of gangs? You want to count them like it's an issue among common folk. If you ain't out fucking around you're fine

Why's it idiotic? Care to offer a rebuttal or just blow chunks?

>Hmm...He was behind of it...

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You need to stop this is bad for both of our mental health.

Fuck off
>Disarm

Hey OP here, you fuck off. My thread shithead.

Report these posts, it's those watch-tards trying to route the system.

If it works in compton it will work with white schools too.

This.
>Angry/crazy/etc. person kills people
>OMFG BAN GUNZ DA GUNZ BAD BAD BAD BAD
>hey, that guy was bullied a lot and seemed like a sad loner. Shouldn't we have helped him?
>DA GUNZ IS PROBLIM, NOT BULYING, U A STUPID CONSERVATIVE AND YOU DOT GET A SAY BECAUSE IM ANGRY
How about we take away the misery and trigger factors instead of eliminating what people will do anyway. They say many people suffer anxiety, how social media contributes to depression, and other shit, but people are mad about lifeless objects? It's retarded.

You guys have such a gun problem I (Britfag) think you need fucking firearms. If I lived across the pond, I would be on edge for a spree shooter and end up being that shooter because of hysteria.

Got enough gun crime in Bradford that it has me on edge.

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It's literally a handful of left-wing welfare queens from reddit. Just ignore them like the shit threads (probably made by the same people).

webm is fake as fuck

>gun problem
>less than 3000 criminal murders involving guns per year
>with a population pushing 400,000,000
>most of those murders are committed by minorities and against minorities

ok

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It's a cultural and media glorification problem not a gun problem. You can make bombs out of common household chemicals and run into crowds of people with trucks to do far more damage than a gun can.

Who gives a fuck, it would work if you had the balls.

>realistic
Fuck that. I compete MMA and i would be straight out the door with a few bits of loot.

There are plenty of stats that account for suicides in gun stats. Why do you raise the issue relating to gangs and then go off as if gun control doesn't influence them too?
America sends out more illegal guns than it takes in.
So how much would republicans be willing to fund the health care system to allow free psychologist appointments and pharmacare for mental health medication?

No it's fucking stupid. You're risking your life for a couple hundred dollars for a guy who's probably going to get caught anyway.

>It's a cultural and media glorification problem not a gun problem.
This so goddamn much, the way people talk about them you'd think we were dealing with nukes.

>less than 3000 criminal murders involving guns per year

ok

well, only country on the planet where everyone can own almost any kind of firearms with proper paperwork/money, and only country where schoolkids shoot each other...
I know this can be hard for a murican brain to process, but try to see the relation here

I grew up in the English equivalent of black projects, so i think Id be right in that demographic - only white.

>free healthcare
It doesn't exist, someone is always paying in the world; money or otherwise. That being said our approach to emotional therapy and mental illness indeed lacking so some type of approach to mending that would be a great way to help remove some of these violent crimes.

Read the fucking P.S. where it says id be out the fucking door.

>you jumped the gun

Correlation=/=causation.
Thought you non Americans would've been taught that in school.

Come conquer us and lead us if you can do a better job

Free healthcare? The fuck? It's paid for by tax.

Great so you admit suicides skew the stats as well. And gangs aren't going to hand their guns over. Are you fucking retarded?

ill bite

If gun control was around criminals would still have guns for sure , that is what would make them criminal in the first instance regardless of how they are used . The UK having a loaded gun is a straight 5 years . We have guns which are pathetic , licenced and controlled . Gun cabinet every time and the cops can pop round to make sure you are worthy without question. Mental fuck ups dont get the chance to own . Farmers get to own shotguns , anything more than a shitty pistol needs a bloody good reason for the licencing . As a rule we dont get anyone shot by cops unless they are armed or associated .

So licence and yes crims will arm and they get taken out by their actions . Some guns will get smuggled in and yes these people get 35 years . Imagine if you will when that cops stops you he/she has a tazor only .........

TRIPS OF TRUTH

wait didn't the UK ban knives
but MA knives are DAnGerOuS

>>UK has severely restricted access to guns
>>Murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

make that about a thousand times less

Only women should be allowed to have guns.

This is how stupid you are

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is that what your man keeps telling you

Austin serial bomber.
> Quick, make it illegal to own bombs!
> Take people's bombs away!
> Ban assault bombs!

its per head dipshit , theres a billion people in europe and a 1/3 in amerifat

redneck gunfuckers

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They keep shooting each other because the media glorifies the shooter and people are glued to the television. It gives all potential shooters examples of why it is ok to engage in such activities. The USA also uses more antidepressants and prescription mood altering drugs than anywhere else in the world.

Why does the media not curtail themselves instead of falling over to glorify the shooter? Why have pharmaceutical companies been allowed to peddle their suicide and homicide inducing drugs to children? Why is recourse to violence accepted to solve a solution? And why did the authorities ignore dozens of calls about Nicholas Cruz when in other countries he would have been thoroughly investigated by the police on the first incident and never gotten to the point of killing people or owning guns?

What's your militia?

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I also point out they account for it. Get out of high school and take a real stats course.
>le no such thing as free health care cause it's paid in taxes meme
Except if you have the buying power of a nation with a population like the us you can force drug manufacturers to sell them at a lower price. Look at new zealand. Not only do they make drug companies price war, but if a company fails to provide the drugs they claim they have to foot the bill of a different company picking up the slack. Everyone pays but its proportionally far less and eventually every single human being need a some a.punt of health care

Just because the UK gov bans something doesn't solve it like a fucking magic wish. Theres so much fucking gun crime in England. Fuck knives, assault rifles, grenades, car bombs, shotguns, rifles, and more handguns than you can shake a shitty stick at.

Ive got a 'technically legal' brass knuckle, because it's an ornamental belt buckle. It just has a tiny latch on the back and is supposedly a bear paw.

Right bombs are illegal so no one uses them...right?
Just like heroin....and child porn.... and stealing..........murder....

The problem with small minds like yours is that you think there's only one problem, and that there must be exactly one perfect solution.

There are many problems, and the ready availability of guns, especially semi-automatic rifles, is absolutely one of them.

Except bombs are more indiscriminate.

Muslims!!!!

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Chris kyle was shot trying to talk down a fellow soldier with ptsd....youre a dumb Nigger

Ok fag so tally up the stats for europe. Not a single country in europe.

gun control works great in chiraq

>no argument to the contrary
>reverts to tumblr-tier "STOP THIS NOW IT'S BAD" suppression tactics

you can carry a knife with a reason , the cops have to demonstrate its an offensive weapon . Take a knife to a park you have a problem , be a carpet fitter and be as tooled up as much as you like on the way to and from work .

A few things: the petty limp-wrists who want to march and cry tears on social media are not the majority. If you are a part of them, the people running this sinking ship want you to think you are. You, personally, will not take guns, you'll hide behind whatever sociopaths that are itching to kill their countrymen that'll show up to take said guns (Pro-gun crowd, take note).

Secondly, the majority is the silent majority -- these are the tax cattle that enjoy going to and from work in peace, can do relatively normal life-functions and eat three meals a day. When that becomes inconvenienced, then yes, you will see your revolution.

The one being pushed now is nothing more than a smoke screen in attempt to keep the already dying empire from collapsing into major violence, the pentagon has been studying and planning for this in tandem with the CIA for years. If Joey Progressive and Jackanapes No-kids ran a revolution solely on progressive values with low-birthweight and pushed acceptance, you'll be destroyed in one generation at the latest.

If another revolution takes its place: be commie, fash, whatever, they will purge the LGBT, the freaks, the genetically inferior (to them) and look only for pure broodmares that laud the system they want to keep it going.

So, enjoy your petty arguments. You're all just wringing hands instead of filling them. It's tantamount to arguing over what curtains to hang in a burning house.

I'm only debating the usage of the word: "free." You can tell me how it works and some of its proven benefits, but don't try to con me with the notion it's free because that's untrue.

Why be pro-gun when you can be pro-tank?

Then what's your point? Why do you raise the issue relating to suicide and then go off as if gun control doesn't influence them too?

Ban assault tanks

>semi-automatic rifles
How can someone be this unaware?

If you are pro-tank, you don't need a gun. You just drive, and the tracks will do the rest.

False equivalence. Bombs aren't arms. They kill complete indiscriminately within their range.

Did you know the largest school murder in the US was committed using a bomb in the 1920s? Did you also know that the largest mass murder of students was in Russia using weapons that are illegal for non-government entities to own?

So which one is it? Do you think someone can't make a bomb out of common household chemicals that are available in nearly every country in the world? Or shall we ban civilian ownership and operation of large vehicles since France and England have had mass killings with them?

The fact the anti-gun crap is spammed at a near industrial scale here, such that it is avaliable every second, tells me everything I need to know. Someone's paid money to have it here, though not very much money, they have a couple good English speakers and that's it. If you look you'll see fucked up english same as you do from the people who spam that free wristwatch shit and talk about Elon Musk. "So it he who responsible???" "Was it hims?"

You should probably pay for the non-ESL gold package if you want to manipulate native speakers who by definition have finished primary school.

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do i look like your bitch , google it

regardless dipshit you have a 1 in 9 thousand chance of being shot and i have a 1 in 300 thousand ..... so by the time ive added it up you may not even be around anymore

OP here, first off checked.
Second. I agree with licencing of firearms but mental health and criminal checks really are not reliable in the case of young shooters as they usually have no prior convictions and mental illness goes undiagnosed in the majority of the modern world. striving to remedy those two things may really help reduce gun violence in north america and europe. But what I do not see helping is restricting my magazine size or what accessories I can have on my gun (provided that my accessories do not make the gun fully automatic and thus illegal). Tha ks for taking the time to respond have a good one.

Does anyone agree that there is no need for the common person to own an assault style rifle? I own guns but I feel the best defense for your home is a shotgun. I also am a paramedic in southeast america and have seen what happens when you miss with an assault rifle. You end up shooting holes into your neighbors house. I've seen enough to be ok with having very large restrictions on a high powered rifle that holds over 5 bullets. If you need a banana clip to shoot one robber in your house you probably can't aim and would benefit more from a shotgun. Also, don't give me the 2nd amendment bullshit, you can't fight our nation's military with zero training and being up against tanks and choppers.

I dont belong to one. If you want me to be honest.

!!! MUST BE SOROS !!! Lol you're super retarded if you think that ironic shit-taking memes == paid brigading.

Define assualt weapon.

What are your chances of being raped? Hahahaha

Also, viet nam

and that's fucking stupid I have yet to have any inadimate object do a single thing without prompting

>Guns are not the problem the bad people with the guns are the problem

Guns are not the problem the Americans with the guns are the problem.

Fixed that for you there.....

Assault style just means the dressings. A real assault weapon is held to the military only.

Sorry captain autismo. I should have said "universal healthcare and pharmacare" and followed up with explaining how eventually you'll use as much or more benefits and value from health care in this universal system that it would outvalue the costs associated to if you had to pay for it as an individual. What a bad con of using free instead of universal.

Or stop handing people who are so redneck they'd willingly call themselves and their family rednecks enough ammonium nitrate every year to vaporize the great pyramids sixteen times over

Ban the nitrogen cycle, BAN POTATOES AND PEANUTS....oh and soybeans actually too.

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But jihadi cave dwellers can fight our military? Fuck off coward. We have an armed populace for a reason, so fags like you can't exert your will into us. And you really think the whole military will go through the streets murdering American citizens? No dumbass. There would be a rift in the military as well. With many of them fighting for the constitution

>Ban the nitrogen cycle,
Actually though, not him but synthetic fertilizers absolutely should be banned

I wish firearms were legal on this board cos all y'all niggas would be iced right now.

Can we all just calm the fuck down, drink a pint, and wait for all this to blow over?

Hi its me OP I dont not think there is one solution to the "problem" of gun violence in the modern age I agree it is a very complicated issue. But i would like to remind you that ALL violent crime is on the decline.

emt near chiraq seen plenty but still disagree whole heartly. before anyone joins the military or police the swear to uphold the constitution from both forensic and domestic threats. how many of our people would violate that oath and kill out neighbors just to follow orders seriously this isn't Germany and never will be because guns are going to stay

Yeah. I know that In most places murder is organised crime related or family/friends dispute related. The U.S. murder rate is not significantly greater that most OECD state's, but more attempts are succeful in the U.S.

It is a bad con because you're insuating that we suddenly just stop spending money on anything relating to healthcare. By saying free you're saying I can walk into a clinic and get a surgery without spending a cent, but it's untrue because I pay all the time in tax dollars under that system. When it comes to economics, free is a non-existant entity, and it makes you seem naive when you use it like that. "Universal" on the other hand has no such preconceived notions, it tells you it affects everyone. It doesn't tell you that the government will miracle in money-less healthcare, it tells you you're covered and that's correct or close to correct in that system.

I’m from the Netherlands. Guns are banned here. We still have shootings and armed robberies.

For the greater good...