Today I placed my Smith & Wesson .357 Mag revolver on the table right next to...

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

Today I placed my Smith & Wesson .357 Mag revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business.

While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house.

After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself.

Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.

The United States is 3rd in murders throughout the world. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington D.C., St Louis and New Orleans - the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE WORLD, for murders.

These 5 cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have the toughest gun control laws in the USA.

It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right?

Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

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Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

Yeah, it's the same with the heroin I placed on my table OP. It clearly didn't do itself or kill any young kids, it just sat there.

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

except, the evidence is clear that heroin is bad for you at an individual level, whereas owning a gun is actually slightly beneficial

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Mason Ward
Mason Ward

Heh. Tell that to all the people that kill themself. Or people that accidentally kill themself or someone around them,

Heroin is beneficial to me as well.

Carter Davis
Carter Davis

except, the evidence is clear that heroin is bad for you at an individual leve
So is cigarettes, drinking alcohol or shooting yourself in the head.

Xavier Morgan
Xavier Morgan

bump

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

the evidence is clear that heroin is bad for you at an individual level,
So is fast food and driving around everywhere instead of just walking.

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Don't split posts like this, it's annoying

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Parker Watson
Parker Watson

more than 10% of injury rates (by self protection mode) are from firearms
That's still 10% of injuries (by self protection mode) though. Want to know how many injuries there are in countries that have tighter gun laws?

David Thompson
David Thompson

why are you two different people disagreeing with me instead of just one, it's annoying

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Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

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Blake Jones
Blake Jones

implying not having guns is the reason the UK is fucked up
No, it's their politics mang.

Just like in the US, having guns doesn't stop violent niggers from running rampant inside your country. Also, all those guns couldn't stop the Las Vegas shooter, could it?

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

Accidental deaths are really quite a small issue, less prevalent than drowning.

I support the right to suicide.

True.

Want to know how many injuries there are in countries that have tighter gun laws?
I'll beat you to the punch. There really is no good evidence that gun control works for anything *except* "gun deaths"--which includes suicides and accidents. Pic related

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Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

Wasn't even my post, I just saw two posts with virtually identical typing and it annoyed me. I'm petty as fuck

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Samuel Russell
Samuel Russell

Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

I just like that meme, I don't take Sup Forums seriously enough to warrant discussion of topics like this

Jaxson Scott
Jaxson Scott

Pic related
False correlation

Homicides are not necessarily done by guns. Another fun fact: homicides in the US has sharply declined since the 90s, but gun deaths have only slightly declined.

Julian Rivera
Julian Rivera

You're the hero Sup Forums needs, but not the one it gets.

Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand mass shootings. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of bullet trajectories most of the rounds will go over a typical victim's head. There's also the shooter's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Elliot Rodger's YouTube videos, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the suspect, to realize that he's not just funny- he is saying something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike mass shootings truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the shooter's existencial catchphrase "GOODNIGHT LAS VEGAS," which itself is a cryptic reference to The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the shooter's genius unfolds itself on their television screens.. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a YOU CANT DODGE THE RODGE tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

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Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

Sounds like you have a shit gun, mate.

You should hand that in.

Cooper Mitchell
Cooper Mitchell

OK, so you're arguing that we should care more about suicides and accidents than murders. I disagree, people should have the right to suicide (though preferably through legal euthanasia), and again, accidents are statistically not such an issue.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

false correlation
lol

Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

OK, so you're arguing that we should care more about suicides and accidents than murders
That's not at all what I am arguing, you fucking dishonest piece of shit.

You're implying that a drop in homicides overall proves that gun deaths aren't related to guns, which is just a false equivalency.

Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

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Owen Stewart
Owen Stewart

That's not at all what I am arguing, you fucking dishonest piece of shit.
Wow, no need to be so emo!

You're implying that a drop in homicides overall proves that gun deaths aren't related to guns
I never claimed that, in fact in the very same post with the graph, I explicitly said that gun control works for gun deaths but not for homicide or death.

which is just a false equivalency.
you're wrong (again) but I don't have the energy to walk you through it. In any case you would probably even be interested in studying more thoroughly the logical and scientific fallacies:
youtube.com/watch?v=w2CxDu7jiyE

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

again,
implying I care about suicides and accidents more than murders
I don't, and thus I don't care about "gun deaths" as much as homicide or violent crime in general.

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

looks like thre was already a downword trend lol

Caleb Cox
Caleb Cox

The trend was continuing downward. It doesn't seem that it changed once the gun ban took effect.

Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

trying to mud the question by saying that since violent niggers still stab each other this proves that we shouldn't ban guns
You're retarded. You can BOTH ban guns, and deport violent criminals, you dumb shit.

Leo Nguyen
Leo Nguyen

As of 2013 there were more guns in Australia than before the gun ban.
In fact many of the guns handed in during the buy back were broken or not serviceable. Nearly half were replaced within 12 months of the buy back with new weapons.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

downward trend
Except it isn't. Feel free to run a regression line.

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

that gun killed the mailman and the neighbour's son didn't it?

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

I didn't say any of that

I'll lay it out for you again, crystal clear:

There is no good evidence gun control has any effect on homicide or violent crime rates. There is good evidence that owning a gun on an individual level increases personal safety.

We should care more about violent crime and murder in general than "gun deaths".

Thomas Anderson
Thomas Anderson

Shits too long. Not gonna read but will assume op is being a faggot again.

Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

There is no good evidence gun control has any effect on homicide or violent crime rates. There is good evidence that owning a gun on an individual level increases personal safety.
These two statements are either mutually exclusive, or personal safety is not relevant to homicide and violent crimes.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

You were lucky this time, punk! If you'd have a kid he could have started toying with it, maybe even killing somebody by accident.

Eli Allen
Eli Allen

*sigh*

These two statements are either mutually exclusive, or personal safety is not relevant to homicide and violent crimes.
No, no, no, no, no. You can have two bodies of evidence that point in different directions, because we have imperfect knowledge. Obviously. It could even be the case that it's both true that owning a gun is your best option as an individual, but banning them is the best option as a society (John Nash?).

Are you trolling, or are you really this much of a brainlet?

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

removing guns from the picture doesn't reduce crime or homicides overall, therefore guns don't affect crime or homicide
but adding guns to the picture reduces crime and homicides, so therefore it's actually beneficial to own a gun

Jeremiah Hernandez
Jeremiah Hernandez

Ad hominem is automatic forfeit in a debate or argument. It's proof that you know you're incorrect and are degrading the discussion in an attempt to force victory on an entirely separate level.

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Jacob Murphy
Jacob Murphy

phew. Thought someone was really that stupid for a second.

Oliver James
Oliver James

It's proof that you know you're incorrect
not really. Most people don't even know what "ad hominem" means. I've tried to describe it to several brainlets but they all still didn't get that it was a logical fallacy. Even if the average brainlet tries to be correct and thinks he is, he will still stumble through every imaginable fallacy.

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

There's not enough data from pre-ban years to say that actually. Doesn't seem to be any clear trend.

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Michael Hall
Michael Hall

If you can't fight your point, you don't have a point. Simple as that.

Jayden Robinson
Jayden Robinson

Doesn't seem to be any clear trend.
NO SHUT UP NO MY IDEOLOGY m-M-M-MUH IDEOLOGY

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

If you can't fight your point, you don't have a point. Simple as that.
Not true, people can have something meaningful and maybe even correct to say, but they might be brainlets who can barely string a sentence together, and get sidetracked by emotions (since they're brainlets).

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

WOW GOOD JOB MANIPULATING THE DATA. LOOK, UNLIKE YOUR "DATA", THE REAL SCIENCE SHOWS THAT GUNS CAUSE CRIME AND WE SHOULD BAN THEM RIGHT NOW.

I LIKE HOW YOUR """"""""STUDY""""""""" DIDN'T EVEN ADJUST FOR POVERTY.

Aiden Ross
Aiden Ross

OP check your gun for cum.

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

Why?

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

If you live in Austin,
I'd check it for cum.

Julian Smith
Julian Smith

if you take out all the places where the murders happen we don't have any murders

Stopped reading there

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

because of Ghost?

Christian Watson
Christian Watson

Jokes on you, with that level of scrutiny you should've stopped much earlier, and that makes you a brainlet

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Because I live in Austin

Jordan Flores
Jordan Flores

If you don't count death from gunshot wounds, the gun deaths in the country drop to 1. That poor, pistol whipped bastard.

Jace Ross
Jace Ross

Prefer my Ruger Service 6, thank you

Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

I'm refuting the claim that there was a declining trend in the data BEFORE the ban.

The ban obviously had an affect, the mean for all the pre-ban years is 562.1 gun deaths per year, whereas the mean for the post-ban years is 272.19 gun deaths per year.

So the ban clearly had an effect, I simply refuted the claim that there already was a declining trend before the ban (implying that the ban had little effect).

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

the gun ban had an effect: gun deaths dropped by almost half
despite brainlets claiming there is, there weren't a declining trend in gun deaths before the gun ban took effect

b-b-b-but muh ideology and m-muh second amendment

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

Actually, over 200 people died from pistol whipping in the US the last five years. People watch too much TV and thinks that a pistol whip only knocks you out, but in reality it can cause some serious trauma to neck and head.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

ITT: samefags from the Tides Foundation

Ryder Jones
Ryder Jones

individual gun deaths doesn't matter because we like to look at society as a whole
individual benefits from owning a gun does matter, fuck the society

Joshua Morris
Joshua Morris

m-m-muh ideology

Luke Green
Luke Green

The rate of downward change is actually less after the ban. Dumb kangaroo fucker.

Carter Mitchell
Carter Mitchell

Stabbed
Corey Feldman

Bomb
Boston marathon

Hit by vehicle
Black lives matter march

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

See

Also
downward change flattens out when there are no guns left to kill people
WOW, stop the press!

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

Except it flattened without reaching that point. Still pelnty of guns in fuck kangaroo land.

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

And your bullshit graph there is made up from thin air, not data.

Josiah Mitchell
Josiah Mitchell

But still, the average annual gun deaths dropped by almost half if you compare pre-ban to post-ban.

Jose White
Jose White

made up from thin air
The numbers are from which includes the fucking source, you dumbass.

John Baker
John Baker

pretending you don't have one

It's only a matter of time before someone shorts out Samsung cell phones as an incendiary device, kek

Luis Adams
Luis Adams

pretending you don't have one
My views change with facts, user. Unlike you, I don't have to invent an entire alternate reality where people who disagree with me are somehow deep state agents in cohort with communists.

Samuel Sanchez
Samuel Sanchez

Class interest explains it all better than conspiracy. But the bourgeois neoliberals aren't very big on non-false consciousness, either.

Lucas Wood
Lucas Wood

Model 686 sweet piece

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

That's actually an interesting statistic. I was being a dumbass earlier, but that's a genuinely interesting piece of information, user.

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

"1979 - 1985" kek

Liam Foster
Liam Foster

in the ENTIRE WORLD, for murders
not true.

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

black lives matter
Huh huh, doesn't count, we're talking about human beings

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

Using that logic, the muslim truck of peace doesn't matter either as French people are subhuman frogeating cucks.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

guns kill

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