Fuck it. I don't want to work for greedy asshole employers that only care about money

Fuck it. I don't want to work for greedy asshole employers that only care about money.

Employer's market = ass market

You are a replaceable rat. They don't want to train you. They want to pay you the minimum so they can maximize profit. Fuck this system. Fuck pompous elitists that only want the most productive rat.

Reminds me of ants in a colony. We are ants and corporations are the queens.

I want to be able to live off of something without dealing with corporate america. It doesn't have to be much. Just enough to live a chill life where aholes did get on my business. Thing is most jobs suck ass in terms of hrs AND pay.

Human compassion doesn't even exist anymore. I don't see it.


I am not obsessed with money. I just want to make enough to survive. I would prefer less than 40 hrs a week. Makes me regret not going into nursing for those 3 12 hr shifts. I don't like the general public because of how toxic people are but 4 days off? Would have been the life.


Advice for someone who doesn't want to be some slave and just wants to live a chill life? I don't want to live as a hermit in the forest. Just a small apartment, weights, and as much free time as possible.

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sounds like YOURE the queen. idk maybe get a job in a gym? grow your own weed? get a couple housemates?

I'm a queen simply for not wanting to be someone's BITCH? Okay

You know what tho? Maybe roomys is the answer. Maybe I can work part time, split the rent, and that's that..

I wish I did nursing since they make a shit ton in the la area even with just part time work

Government worker. If you're a professional (like an engineer) then income is easily 6 figures mid-career, and despite public perception, you can actually do good work without the pressure of a traditional capitalist, widget-spinner-production quota. Just have self motivation and actually give a shit about the public that you are there to serve.

This world does not need guys like you. You sound like you've had a rather good life, because everyone who is familiar with this harsh world would call the current state of the system a paradise.
Yes, true reality is so painful that we enslaved ourselves to some greedy smartasses because it just IS the best option to go with in the long run.
Work hard, and maybe for our future generations this utopia you speak of will become reality one day.
Greed is the basis of our current society and it just works, i can assure you that people have tried many alternatives, and they all failed.
And while it's just counterproductive in some cases, in general it's much better than any alternative. Of course you can try to trick the system, many people do, just don't think you're doing the right thing, after all, these greedy bastards get you up for 40 hours a week, don't they? Is there any other force that would've got you moving for that much?

would prefer less than 40 hrs a week. Makes me regret not going into nursing for those 3 12 hr shifts.


UM WHAT. dude go back to africa youre clearly a fucking nigger. Youre the dumbass that REALLY THOUGHY empliyers care about you lmao.

Nursing? Bsn rn here, um yeah no. The medical field is worst than corporate in terms of compassion first of all. There is no chill here. We dont need your LAZY nigger ass. Just kys

>Greed is the basis of our current society and it just works
Median wage in cali is 19.67 meaning 50% of ppl male less than than an hr. That's good?

Is it good that our whole fucking lives we are put into schools that DON'T EVEN TRAIN US FOR JOBS??? JUST GE CLASSES!! I was a good student for nothing. 4.13 one time, 7 clubs, mvp of track and what did that amount to? Nothing.

And the thing that I hate about colleges are that they are 1) too slow/time consuming 2) too expensive 3) Doesn't properly train you the way an employer wants

Really, maybe if this shit society actually structured the market in a functional way in both training people SUFFICIENTLY and also by actually paying them a fair salary instead of rat shit and if this society emphasized compassion more over becoming the best elitist, I could be okay with it. Working just for the sake of making an asshole rich doesn't make me happy.

Me time where I can have hobbies and not be too tired for them makes me happy.

OP is right

Should've chosen a career where you're at the forefront of your field, researching, creating and developing rather than performing simple tasks.

>The medical field is worst than corporate in terms of compassion first of all.

I am not delusional. I know nurses have to deal with crap but I disagree about you guys having it worse. Ya fucking right. You guys at least get payed well while most other jobs deal with shit and get payed pebbles. So no, I wouldn't have gone to nursing out of compassion.

Also, I am not "lazy". I have passed 26 units at once before for instance. I simply don't want to work as a slave. Nurses at least can live off of part time work and have better hours in my opinion.

Very simple, just impregnate a nigger.

I am not going to reproduce. I like privacy. Ik you're not serious but just saying.

Sorry, 764139591. Us worker ants enjoy sugar water in exchange for being expendable and sometimes dying early.

You sound just like me!

You know you can open a small buisness right? You are not forced into the corporate america employee system

I was thinking about that actually. I just don't know what right now.

You're completely correct in your assessment of the world. Try reading some Marx.

The limits to capital by david harvey is a good place to start. Condenses marx's writings on capitalism into about 500 pages, and it's reasonably accessible because it eases you in step by step.

Sounds like you are lazy and frustrated that you peaked in high school.

Try pulling your head out of your ass. If employers are treating you as replaceable it's because you are. You are lazy and uneducated and have no value beyond a drone. Try to be more valuable to your employer.

First of all fucko, I even said I took 26 units at once. How is that "peaking in highschool"? I did tis one associates program regrettably (since I could have been done with the ba if not for that) and am half way done with my junior yr (part time).

My point still stands. THERE ARE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF WELL PAYING JOBS.

If everyone has a bachelors, no one does and though it is not that dire as of now, it is similar. A bachelors is basically treated as a barrier to entry to jobs that any 14 yr old can handle. Just a way to weed people out.

Btw,you expect everyone to major in computer science or whatever? Get real. It shouldn't have to be this way where you slave through a program you hate to work lile a slave.

Actually, if everyone has a bachelors, everyone does.

>expect everyone to major in computer science
Well, you're using a computer right now. You can't possibly think that you're going to rely on a limited number of specialists or have full quality assurance from automated programs to fix your problems when using computers. We can only dumb it down so much. At some point, you're going to need to know how your magic box works. The people who will prosper the most in the future, are the people who will be able to interface with almost all aspects of life. Because most of all of it will be made of computers, more than now. You don't want to be helpless, do you?

>Me time where I can have hobbies and not be too tired for them makes me happy.

Have fun with low productivity, war over resources and food management. But at least you're happy, meanwhile the state needs to build up a hype for racial superiority and commit atrocities and genocide for their people not to starve to death.

Aaaand you missed my fucking point.

WELL PAYING JOBS ARE LIMITED.

And as for
>Actually, if everyone has a bachelors, everyone does

Did you honestly fail to understand what I meant? If everyone has one, it loses its value.

Nlt everyone can be a cs person. EVEN IF EVERYONE HAD A CS DEGREE, 100% OF PEOPLE WON'T GET A CS JOB.

There are a LIMITED amount of OPPORTUNITIES.

You seriously don't get that?

>Boo-hoo I took a useless degree at a joke college and it doesn't do me any good!

Stop being such an entitled cunt. And I don't know why I'm supposed to be impressed by 26 hours of bullshit joke classes but I'm not.

Nothing is stopping you from being your own boss.
U sound like a faggit

Csuf joke college. Okay I guess since its not ive league,right? Its a bba econ concentration. Personally I am regretting it a bit but I wasn't willing to go to a more hardcore route.

Also, I feel sorry for you. You actually are missing ny point.

>Nlt everyone can be a cs person. EVEN >IF EVERYONE HAD A CS DEGREE, 100% >OF PEOPLE WON'T GET A CS JOB.

There are a LIMITED amount of well paying jobs. Gosh you are dumb for not understanding something so basic.

>And I don't know why I'm supposed to be impressed by 26 hours of bullshit joke classes but I'm not.

Man you are retarded. I didn't post that to "impress" you. I posted that to show you are full of shit for saying I "capped in highschool". Rip brain cells.

Become a gutter punk and sell shitty bead bracelets on Venice Beach

I'm not sure you were making a very strong point, that's why I replied how I did. The way you behave indicates that you have a lot to learn in life, and the rude awakening is probably why you're throwing this tantrum. The world, it owes you nothing. The millions of people who don't even know your name, as expected of them, won't care about you. Especially if you give them a reason not to. They're in their own narrative, like you are now. Well paying jobs are limited, sure. But that might be because excellent employees are also limited. If you're that pressed for a job, you can move. If you're that pressed that you can't move, accept that you will either need to innovate to obtain a well playing job, or accept that you will simply not be entitled to a well paying job beyond the best paying job you can both find and are qualified for. Clearly, you haven't taken the option of going back to become a nurse, so there's that if you feel so inclined.

>Did you honestly fail to understand
No. It's clear you were trying to use the
>if everyone was a hero
analogy. It just didn't make any sense to replace the word hero with the quality of having a bachelor's degree. Everyone having a bachelor's degree doesn't make it so that bachelor degrees don't exist. It would mean that everyone was qualified for a job that required at least a bachelor's degree. In what is unknown, but suppose that that was the case, then the above would also follow. Vale is irrelevant because there was no further suggestion that the system would change, only that everyone would now have a bachelor's degree. Unless you're suggesting that the degree is worthless in the first place, too, which makes me question why you'd complain about well paying jobs or not having a major in computer science.

>Nlt everyone can be a cs person
Most everyone who is like you can. It isn't rocket science. You're using a computer right now.
>100% OF PEOPLE WON'T GET A CS JOB
But then 100% of people would be CS majors, know CS, and be able to start their own enterprises and such that would all include their own jobs. Society would shift to accommodate this new change. Everyone would be able to face automation without a loss of jobs. Automation in daily life would become a reality because everyone would have a major in CS.

Don't want to be homeless. I'll probably just end up getting a roomy eventually and splitting the rent.

As for who is entitled to anything, sure you can say no one is ACTUALLY entitled to anything but I feel the way this society handles training and schooling to be inefficient.

I personally feel every effort should be made to make make citizens actually FUNCTION in a society. Instead kf stupid ge classes, there should be more collaberations with companies and schools to get people to become more employable for certain positions plus more regulations to create an economic system with less inequality (such as denmark).

One problem I have with the u.s. is how almost nothing of school is even relevant from 1st to 12th grade besides math and english and even then, a yr long for a class is pointless.

Maybe I wouldn't be so pissed if the inequality wasn't so high, if employers actually trained people (most employers hate training people), and if most of school was actually relevant to the working world.

>I feel the way this society handles training and schooling to be inefficient
>I personally feel every effort should be made to make make citizens actually FUNCTION in a society
And what will you do about it? There's a job in feeling that way about society, a few that involve directly addressing that issue, in fact. They may not be pleasant jobs, but they directly serve those with the passion to apply for them.

>One problem
Well, that's just where we are. If you're smart enough to make note of this, you should think yourself smart enough to profit in spite of this as well. For example, you mentioned Denmark. Would you ever consider moving to Denmark?

1. There's literally nothing I can do and I doubt this inefficient system will ever change

2. I did think about moving to Denmark but I don't feel comfortable with moving from my niche so I'm probably just going to find a roommate. Maybe start a small business like a sole proprietorship but I have no clue of what right now so that's on hold.

It's not that I don't undertsand your point, it's just that I don't think it is a very good point. Not everyone in the world is going to agree with you junior.

Because it sounds like an excuse for why you are a failure to me.

An excuse? No, it's simple logic. You seem to think most jobs can become cs jobs. You seem to think there are infinite opportunities for everyone as if underemployement could jever exist. Another thing, not everyone has the aptitude for that to begin with.

You seem to think an elitist society where only the best or lucky deserve anything is a good society instead of one that focuses on the betterment of citizens as a whole.

You've got to be careful with these presumptions. Most jobs can genuinely become CS jobs.
>You seem to think
Why must you attack that user? Why do you complain about elitism but refuse to consider the concept of making CS modular and accessible? In that stroke, you are almost justifying that there be an elite few who are magical and are the only ones allowed or capable of holding a CS job, and spitting in the face of a society that focuses on the betterment of citizens as a whole, if not just the philosophy.

You could be bettering yourself right now instead of posting on Sup Forums. Remember that. Right now, you could really be proving that you aren't capable of bettering yourself than simply enabling your own failure. You could be putting some serious thought and research into the proprietorship before it's too late.

Get over yourself and do whatever it takes to survive or kill yourself. If your to immature to handle how the world works go cry and jump off a bridge. You sound like a bitch made faggot. Boo hoo I don't like how this world works, so fucking what. Either do something about it or suck it up and become an "ant". Worthless lazy fuck. Don't say your not cause you clearly are. I'm sure your "free time" consists of you sitting on your ass anyways. You weak minded fool. Grow up. Either work or live a broke ass life. The world has no patience for people like you.

You're the one who brought up CS, not me. I have never mentioned it in my posts and it wasn't my major. Unless you think you're talking to the other guy here.

But yes, I do think that about society. I am intelligent and have worked hard to get a good management job. Why should I have to support retards like you with no skill, no ambition, and saddled with debt from a degree they didn't need or don't know how to apply? Why should you benefit from my hard work?

You remind me of one of my employees. Biggest piece of shit ever. Lazy, can't do anything without help, general worthless pile of shit. But I'll be damned if he don't think he is a hard worker and entitled to his annual raise and so on. It's amazing how deluded we can be about ourselves eh?

So just accept it... heh. Na I will work part time and find a roomy eventually. That's my solution. I was mostly venting and expressing my desdain for how shit the u.s. is with its schools and training.

What happens if you never find the roommate, or the roommate doesn't turn out to be what you are expecting them to be? What happens if your job gets cut? What if you get fired? You're acting more and more like the things you say you hate.

I call BS. Very, very few government workers make six figures. Most of the engineers I worked with retired at about $80K.

Stupid. I am saying well paying jobs are limited so working hard isn't the fucking solution to the current problem.

Also, apparently I am shit for not wanting to be a workaholic. Go fuck yourself. I will live part time and call it a day. Ya I could probably be in your position too if I wanted to eventually anyways considering I don't have a bad (though not great) gpa for the bba econ degree I'm doing. I just don't give a shit and probably won't even pursue a business job when I finish this ba.

Again, wanting more me time and not being a workaholic simply means I wasn't brainwashed to be a sheep like you.

Well, good luck then.... just remember your settling for bare minimum. Don't regret that descion

I wouldn't say being "brainwashed" just immature

You know what? I will put more thought into that proprietorship.

As for the cs thing, if that is true (which I am open to believing), this society should have done a better job preparing people instead of emphasizing ge classes from the moment we start school. Imagine a school system that slowly walked you through the cs process in baby steps starting say in elementary? Nothing complicated. Just baby steps. But no.. instead,let's waste tax payer money on ge classes.

Should've is nice, but should've is not did. Surely you understand why that didn't happen? Surely, you understand why that's starting to happen now in certain places?

Well, you are kind of bad for not trying to find every possible solution you can feasibly attempt, and then complaining that you've tried everything, in other words. Not giving a shit hurts you in this way. It makes me doubt you could take user's position. It doesn't seem like you'd work for it when it called for you to work for it. That, and the discipline.
>probably won't even pursue
>I wasn't brainwashed
Well user. If you think an education, being able to think for yourself, and being make long-term decisions that are self-preserving is brainwashing, all the lack of power to you. Sorry. But, I'm not sorry.

How am I acting like what I hate? I simply want more time to relax and not be a workaholic just because the culture of this society says that's the "right" way. Anyways, I am already pretty frugal. If I can't pay my expenses then idk I guess I'm fucked. Really not much I can do right now.

SOYBOY

You know it's not like I don't think about future expenses. I do plan on being able to actually save enough for rainy days but I can't actually do that right now. Once I feel I have a good amount saved, then is when I'll probably start transitioning to part-time while living with a roommate. Maybe I'll search for a roommate already.

Ah, what a fag.
What's wrong faggot, you got told by your mom your whole life you were an awesome butterfly, and in the real world you actually have to work and put some effort to get something, and that gets you mad?
Boohoo.

KYS commie scum

>commiefornia

I don't give a fuck about your brown ass dirty liberal spic, fuck off the other side of the wall and stay there, thanks

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"The average soy boy is a feminist, nonathletic, has never been in a fight, will probably marry the first girl that has sex with him, and likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as 'Nazis'"

Ya I've done 17k pushups in a month with 45 lb on my back as a 16 yr old etc. I plan on dying alone too. Don't give a shit about reproduction.

Denmark is communism? Ya no. Stfu dumbass. Not everyone that disagrees with the u.s. system is a damn commie

I'm not brown you stupid fuck.

Something cannot come from nothing. If you want luxury, someone has to pay for it. Really, if you want anything, someone has to pay for it. And in this society, nothing is truly free. So, if you have expenses imposed on you, and those expenses cost others to obtain, produce, or otherwise provide, then it seems that the small part of the pie they'll get in exchange for their efforts, is something of value to you. Most likely, effort or currency. It takes a village, you know. When some people laze around, some have to work harder to maintain the equilibrium. If no one works, you get nothing worth working for. A real life example: no one works to improving the system, and so the system has degraded. This produces individuals who do not seek to work, and thus perpetuate the system.

If you choose, you choose to improve the system in some capacity, however small, by making the sacrifices you'll be forced to commit. If you beg, you will have to accept the system as it is while asking others to sacrifice.

I don't mind work in itself. It's the way this society is structured that pisses me off. The way you are at the mercy of employers. That's why I'll probably just try to find a union job.

that means the rest of what he said is true.
Kys dumb faggot

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>rest
You mean lib? That's basically the only other thing they said. Anyways, I don't associate myself with any party.

Fag

Well I'm out. I made my point very clear. I have nothing more to add.

You can't outperform hidden inflation. The money you hold loses between 5 to 10% of its value every year. The cost of living increases but wages don't increase at nearly the same rate. If you hold cash or leave it in the bank account you piss money away. To even break even you need to return about 12% on every bit of money you hold.

When you reach retirement age if you don't have at least 2 million in savings and investments you will live an impoverished pathetic life as you age. You will die in a cold decrepit one bedroom flat.

Fucking get off your ass and do something about it or just kys. Ultimately there aren't enough resources distributed to the working and middle class for their current standard of living to remain economically viable. Government's in the western world have relied on quantitative easing to print money, devaluing it rapidly. The shit will hit the fan soon. Another global economy collapse is coming.

Machine learning, automation and big-data are going to destroy most professions. Governments will not provide society an infrastructure to deal with it. A new below the poverty line class of citizen will develop rapidly. Don't be one of those citezens.

Funding for education, pension reserves and healthcare will all be hit to try to ease the crash. There will be no free tickets, no crutches to stand on. We all have to be so good that we cannot be ignored and left to the wayside.

Which reminds me. I'm never coming here again. Too much to learn. Bye faggots.