Wow what the fuck I'm a #CrossMissile now, really makes you think.
Nicholas Peterson
> or only to saints we don't pray to saints, we ask them to pray for us. Basically we pray WITH saints, not to them. It's like if you meet with a friend and you pray together, except that friend is in heaven > I think I heard something like that, that normal catholics aren't worthy of praying straight to god so they need a relay. Is that true? You should stop listening to prottie propaganda. Of course we pray to God. >can people pray directly to God or is it only through Jesus, otherwise he won't listen because you aren't worthy? Jesus is God. So if you pray to Jesus you are also praying to God.
>t you put Mary on the same pedestal you put Jesus on we don't. We honour Mary in virtue of her relationship with Christ. All we believe about Mary, is a reflection of her relationship with him. None of the way we honour her comes from her personally as a person, except her obedience to the Lord's commands and plans for her. >you even bring up Jesus when talking about people who sinned like that's even possible I don't, don't twist my words. You claimed that a verse from Romans was literal. I pointed out to you that according to your logic, by being litera, since Jesus was not just God but also a man, claiming that all "men" have sinned would make him a sinner too. I wasn't advocating the idea at all, just pointing out the flaws in your argument.
>I'm only giving you the literal definitions of the word and the synonyms thereof. k >And none them allude to the nature of literally being sinless. Except they do >I agree with most of your post, but there is no hard evidence to suggest that Luke 1:28 uses the word 'graced' to mean 'being literally sinless'. It is simply goes against the definition of the word used. They evidence is in the way it is used in Ephesians and the fact that Ephesians is the only other instance in which it occurs like that.
Nathan Gonzalez
repent
Anthony Long
>it occus like that *in which it occurs, period.
James Lee
I think red is the blood of Christ and white His purity.
Adrian Rogers
Just remember that Jesus is the only way to the Father and to the kingdom of heaven
He loves you all, and may God bless you all on this earth and in heaven :D
Hudson Russell
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Daniel Jenkins
we pray to God even in churches we pray to God the first prayer we are taught is The Lord's Prayer
So what to do about this whole thing? AN idea [] There could be a better one [] is to approach other Christians about it. Or the ones who do this sort of thing.
If it gets enough agreement, it can be a civilizedly filed complaint in churches. And a church leader can do something about it.
It is probably real. No one is happy as things are now.
Jaxson Hughes
KEKTHODOX BTFO
Angel Rodriguez
*tips KJV*
Jonathan Foster
Well, he's not wrong. We can certainly learn something from them when it comes to piety, especially protestants.
Jaxon Hernandez
You accused me of twisting your words in that post and then accused me of saying something when that was my first time posting in the thread and didn't say anything close to what you said lol
But whatever. I won't be nitpicky with you anymore. I just think it's funny how you do the same things you accuse others of doing
All of this irrelevant though and I wish everybody could just remember that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are divine, and they're in everyone and everything including us. Jesus is the only way into heaven. His sacrifice on the cross trumps everything and he overcame the world. And through him and only him, we can too. If you believe this, it doesn't matter what denomination you call yourself. As long as you believe in Christ's sacrifice above all else
Evan Price
>You accused me of twisting your words in that post and then accused me of saying something when that was my first time posting in the thread and didn't say anything close to what you said lol I didn't check the ID. I don't understand then in what way did I associate Jesus with sin. Elaborate on that and I will answer your doubts
Chase Clark
Protestants are not Christians
William Anderson
Low IQ Italian shitposts his own "faith". Fucking ingenious.
Landon Morgan
We pray only to God. We ask saints for their intercession, so it's like asking a friend to pray for you.
Luis Morales
You shouldn't ask other people to pray for you - you're being selfish. God's Will *shall* be done.
Luke Young
Can we not start another Catholic-Protestant shitpost war? It deters people that are curious about the faith to post.
Ryan Parker
I invite you all to not give (you)s to niggerteom Thank you
Liam Torres
I guess technically you didn't. It just seems weird to me that you would even have to clarify that Jesus didn't sin. I thought this was a given and one of the main points of Christianity. That was the only point I was making and I'm pretty sure you could comprehend that. (though maybe not) This is just more nitpicking and you seem to do it somewhat often. I feel it distracts from actual conversation if you pretend that everything people say is to be taken literally
Hudson Rodriguez
this x1000
Nathaniel Moore
Nice "filter". Almost as honest as your "theology".
Angel Powell
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Evan Morgan
explain why christianity is not another backwards middle eastern religion
Joshua Carter
But how about this.I think it looks weighted. If it is, it is because this is contracted by Christianity everywhere.
Caleb Parker
Qualify "backwards" and what qualifies as "not-backwards" or "forwards".
Noah Ross
>We pray only to God. We ask saints for their intercession, so it's like asking a friend to pray for you.
with a HUUUGE difference, saints dies, and if you say that peopel dont pray to siants you are lying - catholcis often pray to specific saints for specific purspouses
Xavier King
Not until every single one heretic will not repent and unite with One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church.
Nolan Sanchez
how's that satanic nwo religion coming along for you roman catholics? say goodbye to christianity, same as all mudslimes will have to say goodby to that pedofuck alluh or whatever his name is. you will a bow down to satan in the future. one shitty deal, lol. you're going extinct suckers :)
>feels good to be one of the 144 thousand
Wyatt Nguyen
why are you, as an american, praying to a god of the middle east?
Nolan Robinson
>explain why christianity is not another backwards middle eastern religion
it landed a man on the moon, pagans were wite niggers btw
Nicholas Thompson
I mean look at what your idea contracts. It is like an abuse that goes on and on and on... This can't be realistic.
Dylan Hall
>It just seems weird to me that you would even have to clarify that Jesus didn't sin I didn't have to do it. As I said in my other post when I thought you were the other user I was responding to, I simply mentioned it to point out the flawed arguments used against the sinlessness of Mary. >That was the only point I was making and I'm pretty sure you could comprehend that. (though maybe not) I can but it is a stupid point to make? This discussion wasn't about that, and I didn't mention Jesus sinlessness as a focal point of discussion. Actually the other anons did, with their "Jesus din't sin!!! Mary did!". It seems to me you are moved by feeling rather than by reason in these objections. > This is just more nitpicking and you seem to do it somewhat often I am not nitpicking anything. It is you who are making a big deal out of literally nothing >I feel it distracts from actual conversation if you pretend that everything people say is to be taken literally I didn't pretend that person was being literal. The person was being literal, period. He used a cherrypicked verse and said "see? no man, NO MAN". Clearly trying to use a verse in not only a literal but absolute way to justify his flawed theology. I merely followed the premises of his reasoning to show him the flaw in it. Hence how Jesus and sin were mentioned in the same sentence. Hope this clarifies it.
Henry Gutierrez
Answer my question so I can answer yours. Qualify "backwards" and "not-backwards/forwards".
Jose Turner
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Noah Bell
>>feels good to be one of the 144 thousand you are so humble user, good for you
Luke Diaz
>Not until every single one heretic will not repent and unite with One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church.
HERETIC!!!
YOU SHOULD UNITE WITH THE One, Holy, cOPTIC, Apostolic Church.
REPENT
Brayden Sanchez
Vive le Roi!
Asher Morales
>saints dies And? Credo in sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum COMMUNIONEM
Justin Flores
If you are within the Apostolic tradition then we are all brothers and sister. It is the protestant deceivers outside the tradition who we should all unite against
Colton Flores
HERETIC!
YOU SHOULD UNITE WITH THE ONE, HOLY, AND RICH IN VITAMINS CHURCH OF COUNT CHOCULA!
REPENT!
Kevin Walker
John 14: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Austin Lee
>And? Credo in sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, >sanctorum COMMUNIONEM
u wot m8? praying to anyone other than God is polytheism/paganism that crept into christianity durign time, same thing happened to the OT nation of Israel numerous time as is describe in the book of Judged and Jesus himself spoke about that when talkign to pharisees
Nicholas Ward
14:6*
Kayden Martinez
Instantiate protestants as deceivers without appealing to authority/tradition, or instantiate the cucklic church as *not* being deceivers without doing the same.
Jason Wright
Does a confession count if I post it here?
Julian Brown
The only one you need confess to is God or those people your sin has affected.
Grayson Williams
>If you are within the Apostolic tradition then we are all brothers and sister. It is the protestant deceivers outside the tradition who we should all unite against
Protestantism saved Christiantiy and is the most pristine and primitive or if you will Apostolic sect of Christianity.
Justin Parker
>b-but muh tradition! >b-but my circular reasoning! C u c k l i c s
Ryder Reyes
>Protestantism saved Christiantiy and is the most pristine and primitive or if you will Apostolic sect of Christianity. (you)
A bit harsh lad, but I think you have the right idea of the direction Catholocism is heading
You almost definitely aren't one of the 144,000 though. I recommend you re-read revelation or watch some different videos that discuss that part. More than 144,000 people are getting into heaven, they are just the chosen out of the chosen, if that makes sense. You might be a virgin idk (which is a requirement) but I doubt you were a member of one of the 12 tribes of Israel
Evan Murphy
>b-but muh tradition!
yeah its kind of ironic, protestantism actually is the most traditional and by far the most simple/primite thologically yet most right wing traditionlsit go with catholicism which is quite progresseive/humanistic. same is obvious in art like pic rel.
dont copy paste - contribute!
Sebastian Russell
>dont copy paste - contribute!
What do you mean?
Ayden Clark
It ruined Christianity! Protestantism is more like McChristianity, it is Christianity with fewer calories. Compare the art that came from Orthodox and Catholic churches to the fucking Jesus Junk that Protestants buy weekly for a "love Gift" of 9.99 from TBN. Compare the music that came from Catholicism to the bullshit Christian rock music protestants produce.
Luis Roberts
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Nathan Cook
>catholicism which is quite progresseive/humanistic
in terms of theology offcourse, its also more liberal and that by a mile (Pope said Muslims can get saved without faith in Jesus etc)
Gavin Brown
Their blatant dishonesty disgusts me. >apostolic succession is valid because tradition establishes it is >tradition is valid because church authorities affirm it to be >church authorities are valid because of apostolic succession
Fuck off Catholic weasel-shits with your absolutely abominable circular reasoning. *No one should *EVER* take you seriously*.
Brandon Kelly
>yeah its kind of ironic, protestantism actually is the most traditional
Where is your Apostolic Succession buddy?
Wyatt Garcia
How does any of that mean Protestantism ruined the message of Christianity? Also you know Protestant churches vary widely right?
It's very telling that Catholics place more importance on art and music than on the gift of salvation through faith
Anthony Anderson
>apostolic succession is valid because tradition establishes it is
Apostolic Succession is valid because the Founder of the Chruch said it was.
Jayden Reed
>Compare the music that came from Catholicism to the bullshit Christian rock music protestants produce.
yea, I follow, but protestants tend to fall for that when explaining the Cannon (Gods word is on Earth as is said in the bible, Bible is the Gods word because he would allow otherwise -ive heard peopel argue that)
>Apostolic Succession
what that? has Jesus based his work during his lfietime on smth liek that?
Lucas Morris
>It's very telling that Catholics place more importance on art and music than on the gift of salvation through faith
Maybe we don't because we know that salvation is through grace, you protestant fuckwit
Kayden Edwards
Guys!! Stop arguing :(
Can't we all just agree that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light?
Elijah Smith
>Maybe we don't because we know that salvation is through grace
but that is ABC of protestant theology, fundamental baptist theology basicallly
>Can't we all just agree that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light?
YES E S
Josiah Adams
>Apostolic Succession is valid because the Founder of the Chruch said it was ... who "had authority" because he was an apostle, otherwise his establishment of such would not be valid. If you're trying to refer to Christ Himself, you can't verify Christ was the founder of cuclicks. Matthew 16:18 doesn't cut it in any world.
You can't break the chain of absurdity.
Levi Cruz
This!
Joshua Lee
>salvation is through grace
*trough faith
Noah Stewart
I don't I'm I'm a protestant, but yes I'd agree many do.
Joshua Lopez
Yes, Jesus' love and grace are what save us. But we don't receive that unless we have faith in his sacrifice
Please don't insult me for putting more importance in Jesus than pretty buildings and music
Jacob Hill
THIS!!
Love God with your heart. Thats what matters.
Different forms of christianity and what-not exists, all these variants and lies. Jesus christ is lord, this is what I know. Many lies spread and/or made up by stupid greedy people, zionists and other beings.
God will know you love him, and if you pray good things will happen to you.
Every tongue and every mouth should confess - Jesus Christ is Lord.
I like to pray to Jesus-Christ because he's a fictional character and God is serious mind-wank. Also I've no idea what a lord or a king can be, I've never been subject or serve in my life, just a citizen of the French Republic.
Jonathan Bailey
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Connor Gonzalez
Amen!!
:D
Ian Johnson
>Love God with your heart. Thats what matters.
yeah, no denominations will be mentioned when we stand before Jesus, but that doesnt mean all are equal, however theology is important but a human thing
Lincoln Wood
Pray and ask him...did you ever try that.
Brody Jackson
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Adam Brooks
Ask what ? I don't call someone lord or king (or both), it makes my wanna puke shit. Citizen or comrade I can do.
Joseph Ortiz
>but that is ABC of protestant theology, fundamental baptist theology basicallly If you read the Catechism you will see that Catholics believe that it Christ alone who saves us
Great YouTube channel for those looking for arguments for the existence of God, Christian philosophy, evidences for Jesus' resurrection, and the reliability of the New Testament writings.
Joshua Ramirez
That image isn't the Sacred Heart that's the image of Divine Mercy
Aiden Gray
Bach and Brahms tho.
Nolan Campbell
pls tell me how you got that
Eli Gonzalez
I am sorry, will you forgive me? But you guys do suck at art
