Lionel Messi, voted the best player in the history of football

>Barcelona star Lionel Messi has been ranked the best player to ever play football by famous Dutch magazine 'Voetbal International'.
>Here is the ranking of the top five:
>1. Lionel Messi (Argentina).
>2. Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina).
>3. Johan Cruyff (Holland).
>4. Pelé (Brazil).
>5. Alfredo Di Stéfano (Spain/Argentina).
sport-english.com/en/news/barca/lionel-messi-voted-the-best-player-the-history-football-6096549
Messi is compared to Maradona, Pele and Cruyff. Penaldo is compared to Messi.

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>Dutch
we all know

>Dutch magazine biased towards Cruyff

>4 from 5 are black
Sup Forums btfo, black are the true masterrace

>cruyff over pele

what the fuck? biased af

When will people realise Cruyff wasn't even that good, probably Totti tier

>muh totally irrelevant """dutch""" magazine made a totally arbitrary call in a moment everybody can see who's the GOAT look at me look at me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
saging this worthless thread

Is there a single serious maganzine/journalist who doesn't rate Messi as the GOAT?

When did Totti win 3 ballon d'ors?

Ranking Messi above Pele means CL > WC

International football BTFO hahahahahahah

no WC? no top 5.

it's really that fucking easy.

for you

>Disclosure: May ensue rampant autist arguments from penaldo fag bois

*above Pele and Maradona

>muh overglorified poacher is better than a playmaker who just happens to score goals at a similar rate to muh poacher while also playmaking all game long simply because he has had more recent success in terms of team accomplishments
"No."

>Not a single international title
>GOAT
Really fires up those neurons

What do you know about how good Cruyff was?

he has numerous champions leagues, an olympic gold medal and an u20 world cup

all international titles

>Pelé not first

EXPOSED

But CL is played between teams from different nations.

only 1 of these players got a sticky
really makes you think

Too bad they can't vote him a NT trophy

>u20 world cup

Figo confirmed GOAT

>No Copa America
>No WC

>I evaluate individual greatness with team accomplishments as my primary guide

>Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedeeeeeeeeerrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

They're not wrong.

literally the only 2 titles he hasn't won

no players has won it all

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

>hasn't won't euro OR world cup once
>goat

>dutch

>Ronaldo won because his team carried him

>Messi didn't win because his team is shit!!!

>I evaluate individual greatness with flashy dribbles and pointless goals vs eibar

How can one player be this smug?

>But CL is played between teams from different nations.
from europe only

>muh reddit highlight videos against jobless communist deportes fc

Ballon D'Ors are reserved for the biggest players in the biggest teams so they can market the fuck out of them, Tottis loyalty to Roma betrayed him

I know that despite a few flashy moves he didn't have much in his game with little end product, now don't fucking mention me in your shit posts ever again

he has won the clubs world cup

>cruyff better than pele

do these cunts get off on their own stupidity?

>literally the only 2 titles he hasn't won

Wrong.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_South_American_U-20_Championship

I mean if you count u20 world cup as a legit trophy this should count too.

Ronaldo?

>Pele
>not 1st

Why are noobs allowed to do this?

>Pelel status: BTFO

Ahmed, Messi and Penaldo score goals at similar rates but Messi does so while creating chances for his teammates all game long, directly or indirectly, with his passing and dribbling whereas Penaldo spends most of the game hovering around the box waiting to statpad. Those "flashy dribbles" consistently unlock defenses for himself or his teammates. It isn't difficult to see who is better simply by watching them both play regularly.

Amazing how Messifags have convinced the world that leading your nation to international glory isn't a big deal.

>Cryuff over Pele
In what fucking dimension?

>a country whose national team chokes regularly rates a national team choker

Really made me think....

Cruyff* ffs

>it isn't difficult to see who is better by conjecture and confirmation bias because muh ebin 10k upvote highlight video on reddit

>all these faggots hating on Cruijff for not winning titles with the NT
he refused to play the 1978 WC when he was at his peak, if he played it they'd have won

It's rating influence over skill. Was Jimi Hendrix the most technically skilled guitarist of all-time? Of course not. Yet, he's consistently referred to as the GOAT because of his unique creativity and startling influence on those who came after him. Cruyff is the Jimi Hendrix of football, and both Barca and Ajax strongly bear his influence to this day.

he choked hard in the 74 final

netherlands dominated the entire tournament

hes an even bigger faggot for that

mate if you disagree with him you don't watch the games but just look at the boxscores

messi still has better numbers in literally all aspects of the game

Cruyff would get exposed hard in an era played by plumbers and full time smokers.

Ronaldo is the best scorer but not the best player
that's how it is
Clasicos show this

Cringing

He boicotted the WC, other nations/players should have done the same. Argentina was a fucking dictatorship at that time

But Messi is a better scorer too

Amazing how you think two or three games should define a player's career.

it's always an american faggot doing this threads... sad.... contrived...


meanwhile in real life messi hasn't even entered the best starting 11 of the CL this year by France Footballl magazine.

LOL
LMAO
BTFO

>Using ifs as your argument

oh, good to know he was an even bigger faggot who dragged politics into football

>1 is a winger
>1 is a striker

>Ronaldo is the best scorer

hmmm

>muh Pele

If scoring 1000 goals in a Brazilian PL against Favela FC makes you a GOAT sign me up

>two or three

how many games has messi played for argentina in failing campaigns now?

reckon he's had more than two or three goes at it.

At that time the Brazilian league was the best in the world

You are from fucking Estonia, why do you feel in position to talk shit about Pele?

oh shit the stats are here
someone get on squawka quick

>dutch magazine
>Jowho Cruyff 3th
w e w

76462489
Always a halal fag replying to these threads...sad...contrived

It might be irrelevant for you. But I could say the same about the eredivisie, english league, bundesliga etc. So what's your argument? See how easy it is...

t. bosnian who posts webm of maldini scoring an own goal to prove he's "overrated"

go kick the ball in the park m8

>the city of PK7

>Not even quoting correctly
Can Messhits fall lower?

>76462579
No (You) for you.

then why do some people deny he's the goat?

brazilian and the libertadores were actually legit back in the day.

nothing in common with the joke that it is today

They don't watch enough football.

>Pele not top 3
what a travesty

>some people
It's only a thing in Portuguese websites, Halal websites or Sup Forums, where people "pretend" to be retarded or just drop contrarian opinions

All serious and unbiased journalists consider Messi as the GOAT

>3 lost finals doing NOTHING
>literally not 1 good play in the most important 3 matches
>GOAT
yeah sure....
Maradona will be the best FOR EVER

Sir Alex ranks ronaldo higher and he's the greatest manager of all time.

>serious and unbiased journalists

Ronaldo started his career as a fucking midfielder. You can't be serious.

>journalists

These lists are always full of shit. You can't compare football played in the 30's with the one played in the 70's and 00's etc... These players stood out in their respective eras and that's about it.

Maradona proved himself all over the world and pretty much carried his NT to win the WC.

Pele only played for one team his entire career and arguably won the WCs with absolutely stacked Brazilian NTs

Of course Pele is a good player but shouldn't be rated over Maradona

cause he trained him and is a friend

Explain to me why people rate

>pele

The fuck?

the neville family, one of the greatest football families in the world

hendrix is overrated

tsunaldo isn't even a top 5 all time player LMAO

>Everyone Who dont follow my oppinion is biased and non profesional or trolls
Messhits are literally ill

He ain't a journalist nor unbiased, he managed Ronaldo and didn't manage Messi

cause he won three world cups

Ahmed, Messi has essentially played as a midfielder for years now. And don't call him Shirley.

what impact did pele had in 62? by that logic ronaldo also won the WC in 1994. and baresi in 1986.

I kinda see your point tho, but the estaduais were actually pretty big back in time and the level played was high, but still you can't compare players from different eras looking with today's mind... and that's why I made that post:

>literally chokes and loses 3 major international finals
>lol not important

messhits ladies and gentleman

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*1982