She throws the spear into the water in hopes of getting rid of the object that can cause Superman harm. She then goes to get the spear because of the arrival of Doomsday, she knows that she'll need it. It is mainly bad timing that she has to go and retrieve the spear right after throwing it in.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Kevin Nelson
I don't like it so that means it's a plot hole.
Josiah Harris
Do people actually complain about this? Are the Marvel fanatics this desperate for nitpicking?
Nicholas Stewart
why did batman make some stupid spear like a caveman? why not a kryptonite gun? why not make his iron man armor out of kryptonite?
Levi Hall
what is he a beta?
Carson Peterson
He was calling forth the primal hunter spirit within himself. Notice that he told a story just before this about the Wayne family originally being hunters
Adam Turner
Guns can jam and break. He already weakened superman, so he just needed something simple to finish the job.
Jaxon Brown
He is a nazi worshiper and tried to emulate Hitler with the Longinus spear.
Elijah Ortiz
Also its a reference to Excalibur
Moby Dick reference, Batman is Ahab blinded by his rage and Supes is his white whale
This movie is all about Mythology
Christian Scott
Because he did make a kryptonite gun, he used it twice in the movie
Also, so superman's death could also be an allusion to the ending of Excalibur, the movie that Bruce + his parents went to see at the beginning of BvS.
Jack Walker
>she knows that she'll need it How? The problem isn't that she threw it away and had to go get it, the problem is that she knew to go get it, how would she know it could hurt Doomsday?
Zachary Bell
They went to see Zorro, the coming attraction was Excalibur
Luis Miller
no, he made a gas grenade. why didn't he make bullets? surely the combo of gassing supes and shooting him will kill him instantly
Connor Ramirez
Why wouldn't she?
Angel Rodriguez
No, it was pretty transparently an allusion to the spear that pierced Christ. Anything else is reading too much into it.
Nicholas Gutierrez
Whoa holy SHIT have you seen excalabran (1981)? I mean wowee zowee the relationship between supaidaman and battroman mirrors konigur Arthur and lancelot ohmygod
Isaac Fisher
Well this looks like a whale to me
Cooper Morgan
it's an annoying and inelegant plot device.
Adrian Martin
Because she didn't have any knowledge of what Doomsday was, she wasn't watching the movie with us.
Isaiah Lewis
firstly, he did make a gun type of weapon. But even better, he made it so that superman would breathe the kryptonite in
and secondly, a bullet can only be used once. if you miss, its done. melee weapon has continuous use.
Justin Parker
Why didn't Wonder Woman use the spear? Out of the three, she'd actually be the only one trained to use a pole arm.
Hudson Turner
she still has a brain and can figure it out from what she saw.
Jason Gomez
w/e same thing
Ethan Gray
O shit yo what if the batman marks his victims just like zorro *bathes without soap* now that's what I call a poetry
Just a bit of a fan theory here but I suspect the lex luthor was ordering hits on prisoners with the bat brand to make super man hate batman holy shit bravo snyders
Jaxon Collins
She had to hold Doomsday down with her whip. Did you not see the film?
Jack Carter
It's just a hole. Do you have evidence to support that theory?
Ayden Reed
And what exactly did she saw that would clue her in that Doomsday had the same weakness as Superman?
Jose Hill
no one cares about you die shill die
Jeremiah Long
superman is already away, throwing the spear does nothing but cost her the weapon. who knows who will find it, the next movie lex may impaile him on it because he actually went to dig it up. right thing would be to contain it and look for a way to destroy it, not to dump it into the water Why did not wonder woman throw it?
Kevin Edwards
Lance of longinus
Anthony Jenkins
watch the movie.
Lucas Johnson
?
Jack Baker
Nothing then? Good to know.
Lucas Cruz
>Just a bit of a fan theory here but I suspect the lex luthor was ordering hits on prisoners was not that part of the extended cut?
Camden Gray
Are MCUcks simply incapable of understanding a story? No wonder all Marvel makes is rehashed Iron Man. Its audience seems too stupid for anything else.
Dylan Garcia
>Sup Forums children are STILL assblasted by this movie fucking pathetic
Matthew Phillips
Already confirmed that it's supposed to be Ontario, birthplace of Superman's creators.
I love it when you lorefags are wrong.
Bentley Rogers
Its the same marvelcucks doing a round of shitposting. Marlel threads die after two replies because they're so flat and straight-forward.
Isaac Reed
Because pottery.
Dylan Ward
No see it's an Excalibur reference she's the lady of the lake get it haha
How to make a movie:
1. Watch movie 2. Plagiarize movie 3. Include poster of this movie in your own movie so you can claim its "an homage"
Now that's what I call a bravo snyder senpai
Hunter Morris
if she is the lady of the lake why does she need Aquaman to save her?
Zachary Clark
It was just kind of goofy how she dramatically throws away the spear and then has to get it back
Jordan Murphy
how did she know that doomsday was a kryptonian monster?
Blake James
because it came from the kryptonian ship and was invincible like superman
Julian Wright
right? terrible script
I think Goyer deserves more hate than Snyder Goyer is also the person who wrote the dialogue for the CIA scene
Justin Howard
why is it goofy?
Leo Cook
it was symbolic,just like in the dark knight returns, he wanted to prove something, here, it was that he( superman), was not all powerful, and can be killed no, here they saw excalibur, i even think there was an interview with snyder, where he talked about it while true, she did know that something super major was going on in the kryptonian ship, and then a mysterios mega creature appears, and unlike the original, this lois isnt a complete moron, and can actually think
Nolan Cruz
its an absurd leap of logic the entire scene was contrived in order to (i) give her something to do and (ii) make a shallow Arthurian reference
BvS suffered from its abysmal script
Juan Ramirez
not an argument
Jayden Phillips
Who thought Aquaman would retrieve the spear for her or at least scare the shit out of her? It's honestly a metaphor for how effective A-man would have been in the first fight.
Thomas Morales
why didn't batman just shoot superman with a regular gun after he inhaled the gas kryptonite?
Cameron Morgan
Yes it is
Joseph Lee
How is that an absurd leap of logic? What else would it be besides a Kryptonian? It was literally flying and blasting heat vision.
William Cooper
>its an absurd leap of logic to think the invincible monster from the kryptonian ship will be harmed by the only thing that can harm kryptonians You're a fucking idiot.
Hunter Long
its was a goofy cgi troll monster that looked nothing like Superman, Zod, or any of the other Kryptonias
To make that conclusion based on the information she had is absurd. The majority of audience-goers agree.
Jeremiah Evans
Did they know that it was Zod?
Julian Howard
>marlels in charge of criticizing scripts lel
Ryder Sullivan
You're really grasping at straws
Leo Russell
how the hell did she even know what kryptonite was? for all she knew, batman was just using some fucking spear.
Jayden Davis
not an argument
Ryan Gutierrez
No it isn't, it's clearly of Kryptonian origin, given that at this point the only extra terrestrial or super powered beings encountered thus far have been from Krypton, and given that it was in Metropolis and came out of the wreckage of the Kryptonian ship.
Mason Morales
Why are MCUcks so asshurt towards BvS? Must suck knowing Marvel is too busy sucking SJW cock to make good movies.
Jacob Cook
holy fuck, I literally can't wrap my head around how stupid you people are.
please tell me this is b8.
Hudson Morris
Well regardless if she knew the specifics or not, she knew that it was of alien origin given it's appearance and effect on Superman.
Andrew Myers
If that was the point that the movie was trying to make, it failed to impart it to a VAST majority of the audience.
Art has literally one job, to impart its meaning to an audience. If BvS failed to impart that meaning, then it failed as a movie. If you were able to enjoy it, then more power to you. But its an INCREDIBLY petty artist you blames the audience for the failures of his art.
Landon Davis
What about the entire spectrum of esoteric art?
Liam Campbell
>It's the movie's fault the audience is this fucking stupid
The movie isn't hard to grasp at all, especially this part.
Caleb Turner
>chocolate is poison to dogs >dogs and humans are both from earth >therefore chocolate is poison to humans
Such flawless logic. I can't believe I ever questioned it.
There is literally no point in talking to BvSfags. They are beyond retarded
Asher James
It's not the movie's fault your brain can only process Iron Man rehashes, MCUck.
Christian Murphy
This is why every Marvel capeshit is made for retards. Because these retards actually exist.
Andrew Bennett
That's a horrible equivalence you moron.
Also I guess Lois should've done nothing while they fought this invincible alien. Just ignore the only possibility they have to kill it, right?
Jose Hill
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Luis Sanchez
Wow do MCUcks have some sort of internal competition to act as retarded as possible?
Nathan Phillips
Kryptonite and Kryptonians are both very distinct, alien concepts compared to dogs and chocolate. It's clear the alien spear and the alien monster would be connected.
Gabriel Powell
And chocolate is distinct to Earth. Therefore, it must be poison to humans.
There is nothing we can do against this invincible Earth man. Better try to feed him chocolate!
Brandon Bell
how can you even be this stupid?
Hunter Bennett
>I just got BTFO, better start acting like a stubborn retard now fucking lmao, i'm in awe.
Jackson Garcia
In BvS threads, it always feels like a lecture of basic plot explanation to Marvel babbies. It's like a Q&A for MCUcks. No wonder Marvel never attemps anything but the same rehashed script over and over again.
Nathan Lopez
>Art has literally one job, to impart its meaning to an audience.
You're an idiot.
Adrian Reed
See? They don't even attempt to deal with the substance of the argument. It's just sad insults and self-affirmation.
They can't even grasp a simple abstract example.
Michael Sanders
Is chocolate a glowing, radioactive mineral in derpworld?
Jonathan Murphy
This is what watching CinemaSins does to people.
Blake Brown
I know you're just shitposting now but I really hope that you were before too, for your sake.
David Garcia
Marvel fans are even dumber than I thought
Blake Harris
This is a usual BvS thread. US hours seem heavier on the Marvel burgers though.
Adam Hill
>Art has literally one job, to impart its meaning to an audience.
Sure. It imparted its meaning to its intended audience. The fact that its intended audience didn't necessarily overlap with the commercial mass-media audience is neither here nor there. I understood the movie.
Wyatt Brown
There's also the fact she was never within a mile of it before thinking "OMG I NEED SPEAR"
Nolan Peterson
Formal logic fag, here. What he says makes sense
Premise: Superman is weak to kryptonite Premise: Superman and Doomsday are both from Krypton Conclusion: Doomsday is weak to kryptonite
The necessary assumption here is that everything from Krypton is weak to kryptonite, and the movie never provides sufficient evidence to make this assumption.
Cooper Hill
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Jaxon Harris
I don't get it, why did he post this image?
Connor Williams
Yes. Colonial American hunters. They would have used guns.
Anthony Young
>The necessary assumption here is that everything from Krypton is weak to kryptonite wrong.
Isaac Lopez
Your logic leaves aside quite a few contributing factors, most notably that the battle was coming her way. Her assuming there might be a reason for that is being logically precautionary on her part.
Zachary Green
i really hope none of you are actually this stupid
Austin Hernandez
Do Marlels pretend they're retarded or are they actually inbred enough not to understand a capeshit movie? Sad!
Joseph Jackson
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Connor Baker
The whole fucking thing was retarded.
>oh noes, this spear is dangerous... better go throw it in the water, because water will cancel out its affects >oh noes, now we need the spear, and I know because reasons... better go get it myself instead of telling that bat guy with the tech where it is
Lois Lane was so forced in that movie.
Blake Wilson
She goes for the spear before doomsday crashes on stryker island.
She only sees some red explosions miles away and immediately goes for the spear.
Wyatt Rivera
Oh by all means, don't tell me why I'm wrong
Just assert that you're correct and don't present an argument Then nobody can ever prove you wrong.