Can someone explain the hate? Sounds like your generic pop song and the beat isn't half bad...

Can someone explain the hate? Sounds like your generic pop song and the beat isn't half bad.The only borderline unlikeable thing is Bieber's prepubescent voice.Why do people hate it like it's the second coming of Hitler?

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He hasn't recieved Hitler levels of hate since around 2014 though.

it's just a meme

It was a thing back then for normies to diss it while low-key liking it or ironically listening to it. You wouldn't understand.

you guys remember that "metal militia" shit that was posted on every metal video on youtube back in 09-10, and their goal was to make baby the most disliked video on youtube? good times

Because he was a kid and that makes his voice quite annoying. Everything about that song is bad, but yeah, it is just as bad as any other generic pop song.

I'm talking about the song itself.Its the most disliked video on YouTube and biebs wasn't even acting like a spoilt retard back then if that could be one of the reasons for the hate.

Oh fuck yes

Cause people really fucking hate it when a kid is more succesful than they'll ever be. As he got older, they stopped caring. But somehow there's always this hate pull towards succesful kids

It's not about the song itself, moreso what it represents in the internet age. Baby was the first glimpse into the one fear we desperately hoped wouldn't come true, in that any average, mediocre and idiotic person could attain such a level of popularity that we had yet to anticipate. Had Bieber existed in a different time period before, he would be rendered as an obscure pop act left away by time. The fact he managed to garner such a huge fan-base via mainly the Internet alone began that fear hidden in the chills of our spine as a new trend. That famous quote "Everyone will be famous for 15 minutes" became a horrid reality, and an unmitigated disaster in the spheres of humanity. Justin brought this spoiled bread to the king's feast, and we all are it, both the peasants and the aristocrats.

it's a natural reaction against blatantly manufactured acts

>the beat
kill thyself

Actually getting slightly nostalgic listening back to that one. A time where I still thought the world worked like that. Find a cute gf, end of story. Kids are fucking delusional, but happier for it. Gotta give them that

it was the thing to hate him back them now is cool to hate trump and liking black people.

Viral marketing.

beyonce or kanye dont get this kind of hate though

Probably homophobia/misogyny plays into it (a fear or hatred of effeminate males, or a fear of young girls expressing their sexual/romantic interests on a wide scale), combined with the usual "music was so much better back in my day" / "pop music sucks" mentality.

Are you posting from 2009?

And like always, the stupidity of this place strikes through again. My post was objectively the most intelligent, beautiful and creative out of all, as I pierced into the mind and drew its soul to death.

Never change, Sup Forums. Never change.

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I think you should apologize to me and my post right now.

go back to l eddit u fucking sperglord

Because it was one of the first big viral hits desu

>in that any average, mediocre and idiotic person could attain such a level of popularity

Bieber had good marketing, the looks, the charisma, and was in tune with the desires of young people. And lots of luck, same with anybody else. There have always been celebrities like this since the dawn of popular culture.

>Had Bieber existed in a different time period before, he would be rendered as an obscure pop act left away by time

It's only been like, what, 10 years now? Bieber's popularity has already been waning for the last few years, and chances are the only people who will care about him in the future are those who grew up with him.

>The fact he managed to garner such a huge fan-base via mainly the Internet alone began that fear hidden in the chills of our spine as a new trend

People probably said the same about TV and movies. How is it surprising that new media drives celebrity and pop culture?

>Bieber had good marketing, the looks, the charisma, and was in tune with the desires of young people. And lots of luck, same with anybody else. There have always been celebrities like this since the dawn of popular culture.
But he sure as hell had rudimentary musical talent. At least those celebrities usually had something enticing or worthwhile that catapulted their fame up to that summit of popularity. And yes, I acknowledge that some celebrities are just "famous for being famous" such as the likes of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. However, I was talking about his musical ability, and how a plethora of YouTubers amassed their fame through music. Remember when people lip-sung to popular songs and garnered stupid amounts of money?

>It's only been like, what, 10 years now? Bieber's popularity has already been waning for the last few years, and chances are the only people who will care about him in the future are those who grew up with him.

My point is that if he never used the Internet to kickstart his career, he wouldn't have even been famous in the first place, or perhaps just a one hit wonder that performs at Las Vegas casinos to middle-aged mothers.

People probably said the same about TV and movies. How is it surprising that new media drives celebrity and pop culture?
Could you easily attain an acting career on TV or movies? Could any of his fans get one, too? Could any average person just wander into an opportunity to act in ANY of those fields? Therein lies the problem. Because of the Internet's ubiquity, any aspiring actor or fledgling musician, heck, even anyone could be famous with just a simple editing program and a camera. It's infinitely easier to upload simple videos on YouTube and try to get famous than it is to audition for an acting part and/or get a record deal. That's exactly why it's more surprising, because people you didn't expect to get popular manage to garner 5 million views on YouTube, and it's hard to predict who's next.

bieber is cool. normies hated on him because he came from the internet and usher helped him out.

his last album was actually pretty good

Ironic how most of Sup Forums hated him back then.

kill yourself, your post was a pretentious heap of crap and that's why it got no replies.

someone post the fucking metal militia pasta

>My point is that if he never used the Internet to kickstart his career, he wouldn't have even been famous in the first place

But you could say this about ANY celebrity on a given media platform. It's pointless to argue about counterfactuals because you can't verify them. Who's to say the Backstreet Boys would have been popular without TV music videos and airplay? Or the Monkees? Or any number of shitty acts from the previous decades that we've forgotten about?

>perhaps just a one hit wonder that performs at Las Vegas casinos to middle-aged mothers.

You're missing my point about the timescale. For all you know he COULD end up like that when his primary fanbase reaches middle age. He's relevant now because he's still a young man, but who knows how time will treat him. It's too early to tell.

>Could you easily attain an acting career on TV or movies?

If you're lucky enough and are in the right place at the right time, yes. Think of all the talentless Hollywood actors who continue to get roles. A lot of people just had the right look, aura, or knew somebody who worked in the industry. In a way, Bieber is more deserving than a lot of actors given that his buzz came directly from his youtube fans.

>Because of the Internet's ubiquity, any aspiring actor or fledgling musician, heck, even anyone could be famous with just a simple editing program and a camera

Again, it's an issue of perspective. Classical and jazz musicians felt the same about rock and roll and pop, film actors felt the same about TV actors. If they appeal to a large audience then they're doing SOMETHING right, something that technically talented artists can't do. They're in touch with the zeitgeist.

>young boy with a dream to sing for millions
>actually fucking manages it
>despised vocally by anybody but pre-teen girls for years
>people calling for his death
>media circus around a child
>is probably the victim of the most concentrated cyber bullying campaign the world has ever known
>millions and millions of dollars to a child
>everybody surprised when he gets older starts lashing out
>why on earth would this young man who has been universally hated by people and the media for years act so unwholesome??!!
>some shift happens, presumably he gets a good manager or agent or something
>starts collaborating with artists and releases some solid pop tracks
>people who hated him like his new stuff
>seems to be a new man
>cancels tour to focus on mental health
>msm STILL tries to shit on him for it
>nobody is buying it this time

JB did nothing wrong. He was probably made big after his mother put him in a Weinstein paedophile blood orgy situation. He's managed to not overdose on Xanax like a pussy despite years of constant hatred and shit being flung his way. He waded through the shit pipe and came out the other end releasing some great pop songs and collaborating with respected artists.

its called growing up user

>But you could say this about ANY celebrity on a given media platform. It's pointless to argue about counterfactuals because you can't verify them.
No, you really couldn't. The Internet is too significantly different from other forms of media to even compare them. Bands like The Backstreet Boys still had to audition for a record label and demonstrate both hard work and talent in order for them to garner fame. It's the same with all artists, celebrities and musicians prior to the Internet age, in that they actually had to put themselves out there to develop an audience. With the Internet however, it's literally only a matter of a few short months to a year before you get recognized, as opposed to the 3-5+ years it took for people to just get INTO the industry. As aforementioned, the Internet provided a much easier method to garner fame.

>You're missing my point about the timescale. For all you know he COULD end up like that when his primary fanbase reaches middle age. He's relevant now because he's still a young man, but who knows how time will treat him. It's too early to tell.
This isn't about what he could end up like in the future, although I do agree that he could potentially end up as such. This argument was about how Bieber even became such a notorious figure in the first place. Part of that notoriety stems from him being the poster boy for Internet fame.

>If you're lucky enough and are in the right place at the right time, yes. Think of all the talentless Hollywood actors who continue to get roles. A lot of people just had the right look, aura, or knew somebody who worked in the industry.
For every 100 people or so that got "lucky" via the "right place, right time" opportunity, there are at least hundreds of thousands or more who either had to work constantly to garner fame or still have yet to be discovered today. Imagine how successful those hundreds of people would be if they made a YouTube account and made videos from it. (Cont.)

You have to go back

No, I don't. I belong here.

>but who knows how time will treat him. It's too early to tell.

He'll probably end up like Vanilla Ice, making fun of himself in movies and reality shows, heck he is doing that right now youtube.com/watch?v=XQLNgEgPK0A

dude it's like
as bad as
like
nickelback
lmao!

His fans are worse now than they were back then.