When did you realize that he's a massive pleb?

When did you realize that he's a massive pleb?

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JTG is an actual educated musician who doesn't play or listen to rock music like the rest of this board.

I think it knows what he is talking about

He listen to obscure pedoeske folk songs too so shut up. Also nice quats.

still mad huh?

O B S E S S E D

>shit on your favorite youtube-core background jazz jap artist
>hes a P L E B

lmao based JTG

karma fucking sucks my dude

>unfortunate yodeling
how could someone actually say this

check em

Spiritual jazz is fucking shit

>b-but muh soul!
"No!"

when I realized that he unironically thinks modern whitey post bop wankers are better than legends like coltrane and mingus

>m-m-Muh muh LE-GENDS!!!!!!! MUH GOLDEN COWS!!!!!!

What a complete and utter rockist notion. No wonder you feel that way. You're an absolute mental failure.

>>What a complete and utter rockist notion.
nigga what
you do know that people like Coltrane and Mingus were already well-respected and considered legends before Rock even hit the mainstream, right?

jtg stands for jazz the gay lmbo

You are a sad foolish person. I highly suggest you stop replying and self-reflect instead.

Who knew there were so many drones on Sup Forums

So you don't know what rockism means. I probably shouldn't be surprised.

literally not an argument
>Rockism is essentially a prejudiced attitude to any form of popular music that doesn't conform to the values of rock music (in the most narrow and conventional sense of the term.)
so how does that make what I said wrong?

This is what it looks like to be spoonfed charts by Sup Forums and never actually getting educated on music

I don't think JTG is wrong at all. I'm questioning the "LOL ROCKISTS" mentality of the other retard.

What a waste of a quad

it's funny how respected JTG has become just because he has some kind of apparent omniscience over the music world to your average Sup Forums teenager because he uses words like "rubato", "ostinato", etc

>because he uses words like "rubato", "ostinato", etc
that's not the reason people respect him. his reviews are actually good and in depth.
it seems like you're projecting

>it's funny how respected JTG has become
and he deserves it. He doesn't waste time listen to indie or pop. He's the first educated person who listens to educated music and gives an educated opinion. He's probably the smartest person who goes here and I mean that unironically.

He's right though except that the rating should be 1 star. I could see 2 stars except for the absolutely embarrassing yodeling. Instead of calling him names though I'm sure it will be hilarious to hear what you even disagree with in this review.

Jazzthreadguy is the Anthony Fantano of jazz criticism

>[GOOD CRITIC] is the [BAD CRITIC] of jazz criticism.
what did he mean by this

I like his reviews but a good rule of thumb is to subtract one star from his rating since I think he overrates almost everything

He completely ignores the spiritual power of the music which is the whole point of the album

>He completely ignores the spiritual power
*cringe*
Why do rockists keep saying retarded shit like this?

>he ignores MUH FEELS
lmao

delicious subjectivist tears

by this logic you could claim that any garbage is good because of muh spiritual power

Yes, you could do this.

Imagine wasting this much time writing about jazz

Imagine sucking the dick of an RYM reviewer

Imagine actually knowing about music

hi faggot, did I insult you and bf's little feelie weelies :(((

>plays the music
>makes actual observations on it (some of you faggots sperged about The Epic and he actually transcribed the shit with comments on what he personally wasn't a big fan of)
>Has made the overwhelming majority of jazz charts that Sup Forums uses
>Has also shared by far the most jazz music on the site as well

Like, I don't agree with the guy all the time. He's not the biggest fan of large, layered instrumentation while I eat that shit up. But I still at least respect a lot of what he has to say. When it comes to jazz, there's not another user on Sup Forums that has contributed towards it as much as he has. Not to mention it's funny how the rest of Sup Forums will willingly shit on others' tastes for listening to less nuanced or more watered down takes on their favorite genres, but these same people lose their shit the instant someone does it with jazz because it turns out 7 of the 10 jazz albums they listened to in their lives aren't actually that great by jazz standards.

shut the fuck up lol

Please tell this one another one of these: "every genre besides classical music and jazz is worthless". Not that it would surprise me, especially at this point on this sad excuse for a board. By knowing what he's talking about, he decided to mainly offer basic compositional analysis and of course the rock critic's favorite - emotional descriptors. He does know what he's talking about, although that's more evident here:
mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki/Jazzthreadguy's_Music_Theory_Guides

jazz plebs btfo lmao
I didn't even know he made a theory guide, too.

Please tell me this isn't another one*

This is one of those albums that Sup Forums tricked me into listening to. It was so bad I turned it off after like 10 minutes. I can't believe somebody even took the time to review this garbage.

not an argument. seriously, you're just butt-blasted because someone more knowledgeable than yourself can articulate why they don't like an album while all you can say is MUH FEELS

he used to post here?

But logic isnt the conclusion of music. There are many exo-musical factors that determine the characteristic and quality of music and why people listen to it. Otherwise, why would any listen to it? Music didnt begin nor is it mostly undertaken as a purely intellectual task, whay would make art aky different from craft if this was the case?. The jazz musicians coming out of Coltrane's stream (though he wasnt the first) were purposefully straying away from the circular, sterile approach of Jazz music during their time and attempted to stripped it from the same pretentiousness that you're displaying. The same thing applies to Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz movement. They were literally trying to FREE JAZZ. They were literally focusing on "muh feels", cause they found the bop noodling meaningless to them. These experiments gave the project of jazz meaning to them. Mingus was tryig something similar by adapting traditional negro forms into Jazz. Sanders was doing the same by applying forms from other cultures (noticeably Indian music).

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there's also a jtg who used to spam sharethreads with thrift store swedish music but that wasn't the real jtg but swedespammer impersonating him, the actual jtg uses the above trip

What's a negro form that Mingus adapted into jazz and a track exemplifying that?

What's an Indian form that Pharoah Sanders adapted into jazz and a track exemplifying that?

I cant believe you would ask about the Indian one, but The Creator has a Master Plan is basicslly a raga.

In the case of Mingus, folk forms no.1 is based on an old form found in negro sprituals later adapted and often found in boogie woogie and early "dixieland" jazz. Also,cant remember the one but several tracks in Ah Um use soul and gospel instead of swing and employ several characteristics of these such as soulful ad libs.
Also, the version of Fables of Faubus in CMPCM, yet again adapta gospel and sermon-like ad libs into jazz. Likely improvised as well.

>I cant believe you would ask about the Indian one, but The Creator has a Master Plan is basicslly a raga.
How so? My knowledge of Indian music is elementary at best but from what I understand a set of rules and notes, comparable to a mode or a melodic fragment in Western music. I'm not really sure what that has in common with The Creator has a Master Plan.

>In the case of Mingus, folk forms no.1 is based on an old form found in negro sprituals later adapted and often found in boogie woogie and early "dixieland" jazz.
Isn't Folk Forms 1 just a 12 bar blues? That's a form that does come from negro spirituals but Mingus was definitely not unique in exploring that form. Kind of odd to use it as an example of trying to move away from bop noodling since 12 bar blues was a favorite form of bop players.

>Also,cant remember the one but several tracks in Ah Um use soul and gospel instead of swing
I'm not sure what you mean by gospel instead of swing

>and employ several characteristics of these such as soulful ad libs.
hasn't soulful ad libbing pretty much always been one of the main features of jazz?

>but from what I understand a set of rules and notes
*but from what I understand a raga is a set of rules and notes

>I'm not sure what you mean by gospel instead of swing
Not that user, but
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_music
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_music

I know what those types of music are, I just didn't realize they were mutually exclusive and I don't know which songs on ah um he was talking about since I seem to recall that pretty much all the songs on that album swing

how large is your brain

Yeah, but theres a difference between composing with one in mind instead of the other. Jazzing it up over a bosss nova would make you approach the improv different from soloing over a blues.

>What's a negro form that Mingus adapted into jazz and a track exemplifying that?
Blues, you dolt. He wrote blues pieces with more advanced harmony than had ever been done in jazz before. Listen to Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, or literally any of his albums.

Cringe
Please tell me you're not a jazz musician

>black jazz artist writes a complex harmonic appproach to traditional jazz form
>woah what a genius

>white artist writes a complex harmonic approach to traditional jazz form
>these fucking academic crackers trying to make jazz all intellectual are ruining jazz!