Does the classic slasher genre deserve a comeback? Do we need it? I feel like it's long overdue

Does the classic slasher genre deserve a comeback? Do we need it? I feel like it's long overdue.

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Yep, they should do..

I Know what you did Last Chistmas.
Bring back JLH, freddie prinze, the whole gang.

I don't there are enough ppl that would appreciate it. plus the times are a lot different now.

Is the found footage genre done? Did VHS Viral kill it?

It would have to alter its core principles to work in current year

>1980's slaher flicks
>all about killing sexually promiscuous teens
Sex isn't a big deal any more. It's no longer taboo unless you're really deep south

>2016's slasher flicks
>Jason/Mike Myers killing people using Twitter/Facebook
Nah, doesn't have the same appeal

Maybe it should. We honestly didn't need another slasher movie after Scream. That felt like the logical conclusion to the slasher genre itself. I just think Michael Myers, Jason, Freddy, Pinhead, Leatherface, etc have nothing left to offer us. They've already hit their peaks.

No, because it would have to be le quirky for it to pass by focus groups.

People seem to have lost hold of the concept that you can be self aware without some fuck quipping 24/7

Slashers can still work.

Either:

1. Go back to the original concept (IE Giallo, which is what slashers were called before Hollywood turned them into teen murder fetish porn) and basically have them be about beautiful rich white people being sadistically killed

2. Double down on the existing conservative elements in terms of the killer murdering teens because they are degenerate social justice warrior degenerates.

The former would appeal to lefties while the later would appeal to righties. And given how Green Inferno basically revolved around murdering SJWs in graphic fashion, you could make it worth

Can you fucking imagine a slasher movie made in this post "everything is sexist/mysoginist" world?
It'd be horrific.

>Waah! Women as victims!!
>Waah! Muh mysoginy!
>Waah! Male power fantasy!
Fuck it.

Would you guys consider You're Next a modern slasher? Because I thought it was fun as fuck.

>Pinhead
>slasher

nah

...

Fight me, you nigger loving christkiller.

It basically was. Kind of a mix of slasher and home invasion, but the movie was kind of gay and predictable. I researched the movie and discovered "Mumblegore." That's exactly what it is. Ti West is a hack.

>>Waah! Women as victims!!
>>Waah! Muh mysoginy!
>>Waah! Male power fantasy!

literally the same reaction they always got.

hellraiser works as a slasher movie, but the cenobites aren't the slashers

Yeah but by their nature slasher films are generally pretty predictable and OP was asking if we should return to that 80's style. You didn't think the piano wire across the door was awesome in your're next? Also the main character was stronk womyn done right in my opinion.

Anyone else love this movie?
Its the only slasher film besides Halloween that I actually find scary.

Sure, it could be fun. It doesn't necessarily have to be the same old household names though.

Well, I was referring to Hellraiser and not really Pinhead. Though in 3, it is a slasher.

Not really. I've watched that part in Ghost Ship, so it wasn't too new of a concept. I liked her character, but I disliked the explanation. Just seemed a little far-fetched in a way.

Fair enough bra. I thought the explanaion was a little weak as well.

THERE ARE TIMES
PLENTY OF TIMES
I WISH I COULD LET IT GO

Childhood is thinking slashers are scary.
Adulthood is realising they're scary because they're white males.

...

I could only imagine them redoing it in a totally over the top way (like with all the gore effects that got cut out of the original movies and plenty of shower scenes)

Seemingly the horror genre has moved pass these flicks

Yes, there's always opportunity for a good slasher. The problem is spoiled brats don't go to summer camp anymore. We also saw the mess of Jason going urban. Scream was great because it was modern and suburban. Candyman was able to do an urban environment pretty well because of his supernatural ability. Freddy also was able to use supernatural ability to operate in the suburbs. The movie just has to be relate-able to the audience.

it sure did.

youtube.com/watch?v=tSEqVqmYhrk

The problem is you can't beat Friday The 13th Part IV or NOES 3.

So why even try?

The Purge seemed like it was trying to go this route. They should have had a house full of teens.

After hearing about the BTK Killer and how he stopped killing and settled down as a family man, it makes me wonder if an 80's slasher did the same thing?

Say the premise of the movie is that this horrific killer in the 80's suffered from a coma of 20 years and he wakes up in the 2010's. Technology has changed, but teens are still teens. In fact, teens today seem to be self-absorbed in his POV and totally dependent on smartphones and WiFi.

So the slasher resumes his killing spree and in a typical 80's setting like a summer camp or group of kids in the wilderness so getting a signal or the cops is going to take a while.

Or you could always make a retro film set in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's that follows the typical slasher formula but highly refined.

>Michael Myers,
white male
>Jason,
white male
>Freddy,
white male
>Pinhead,
white male
>Leatherface,
white male

Not a problem is it? Nobody has any issues with it right?

But this is a problem: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior_narrative_in_film

there simply aren't enough magic negros

Candyman remake with white Candyman when?

Willy Wonka is technically scarier

I can't help but feel The Purge has never really delivered on its premise. I heard of it and thought it was a scary concept, but the execution was shit.

Ghostface, Candyman and Angela Baker, m8.

>1. Go back to the original concept (IE Giallo, which is what slashers were called before Hollywood turned them into teen murder fetish porn) and basically have them be about beautiful rich white people being sadistically killed
I will kill to see kino-quality giallo again like Suspira. But I honestly believe you can't emulate it again because today's generation definitely misses the nuances of previous generations.

>2. Double down on the existing conservative elements in terms of the killer murdering teens because they are degenerate social justice warrior degenerates.
And then you're gonna have the liberals cry foul about exploiting the murder of the left. Admittedly, it would be interesting to see a right-wing nutjob of a killer going after promiscuous teens and non-whites. Except the twist is that the killer is actually a liberal who wanted to create a straw man and false flag to perpetuate their agenda.

I honestly don't care. I just wanted you to know that.

The whole point of slashers was a response to sexual promiscuity which arose from the 60s and women's rights. It ties fear and sex together because that was a large concern of those growing up in the 70s and 80s.

Now the focus is more so on self vs society in an age of on line media and self awareness that wasn't around before. It's about individual experience. This is why found footage has become a huge genre as of late.

The next step is going to have to be neo or meta, just like the 90s were. The world and horror are in a transitionary state of redefinition.

In my opinion, the next round of horror will be environmental, psychological or supernatural which is probably why the conjuring is doing so well.

>self awareness that isn't around now
Fixed.

They always got that reaction but the soccer mom moral guardians of the 80's didn't have nearly the numbers, power, or media pull that the blue haired SJWs of today have.

I liked how the hired killers set everything up like jamming cellphones, murdering the neighbors to make it look like psychos on a rampage instead of premeditated murder.

I would actually kill to see a horror film where the "survivor" was actually in on it so that they could profit off of being the final girl. Scream 4 sorta did this, but didn't have the guts to keep it.

I think it's strange The Conjuring, It Follows, Sinister, etc are doing well. What's popular in horror during a decade is usually a reflection of society at that time. World War II made the Universal monsters seem less scary, so giant insects and science experiments gone wrong were so popular in the 50's. I'm not sure what's happening now that's made supernatural horror popular.

You could still have that fear of how social networking is making girls camwhorish as fuck. I remember this dumb bitch in my chem class being shocked that someone took her Instagram photos for a jack-off thread. No shit Sherlock, posting pics and vids of yourself in sexually provocative poses and actions is going to bite you in the ass.

In fact, you could probably do something like a combination of Red Dragon and One Hour Photo where the slasher stalks his victims via Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. and tracks them down by being a good detective. Pays attention to details like their high school jersey or something.

And then killer posts his murders online and people automatically dismiss them as hoaxes and memes at first. Then it sets off a fascination for real-time snuff being streamed.

I think people feel they don't have control of their lives. Supernatural beings seem like a good metaphor.

It's a natural reaction to all the horror from the 00's and wanting a return to roots. Supernatural horror actually tries to entice people with its unsettling atmosphere despite a lot of jump-scare imitators.

I want to see a return of creature horror movies make a serious comeback. Like werewolves being semi-mystery story and survival horror.

That's because being a serial killer is work. You have to do a lot of shit and you have to be smart enough to not get caught.

>doing work
>being smart
>niggers

Black "serial" killer would just snap and tweet his first kill and immediately get cought.

Tried and failed, they already remade all the classic slashers.
It's pretty much still alive though, just the killers are now interchangeable longmouths instead of interchangeable psychos.

You know it would be interesting to have the psycho killer actually be a non-white male and frame a white dude for the crime since statistically, most serial killers in the US are white guys.

>statistically, most serial killers in the US are white guys.

i think you mean numerically... statistically african americans are more often serial killers when compared to racial populations

VI > IV

>I heard of it and thought it was a scary concept, but the execution was shit.
This, they're so disappointing. At least the main villain in the first one was enetertainingly hammy, but other than that they're just so weirdly boring.

I think you kind of answered your own question. Much like how WWII upped the ante for monster movies, we live in a world where slashers and serial killers are a real world thing (granted they always existed, but they get a lot more broad media coverage now) so the tend in horror is shifting towards supernatural killers.

Candyman was originally white in the short stor y the movie is based on (which takes place in Liverpool). The film made him black because he wanted to make a movie about racism in the US.

Also, Candyman isn't really a slasher movie. I know it gets marketed as one, but it doesn't fit the genre very well. Candyman only kills two people in the movie, and he's not really stalking a group of people. Half the movie is the main character trying to disprove his existence, and the other half is him mentally fucking with her so she'll make people believe in him.

VI is pretty comfy, but it crossed a little too far into the campy territory for me (no pun intended).

>I will kill to see kino-quality giallo again like Suspira.
Good news, it's being remade

Green Inferno was a massive bomb mate.

It might be more the psychological aspect than literal supernatural. These days it's all about anxiety, image, politics and all these forces outside of our control. Maybe supernatural monsters kind of reflect that. Same reason dystopia and post apocalypse/zombies got so big, allowing us to combat these larger forces or do away with them entirely to return to a more primitive existence.
Might also be the nostalgia factor. It Follows, for one, was very 80s influenced with an intentionally timeless/anachronistic setting, and the supernatural is what most people were scared of as kids.
idk

couldnt it be selection bias? theyre not making slashers anymore so we 'think' that slashers arent popular anymore

note that remakes of old slashers or sequels doesnt really count because its not a new or interesting topic

after you take away slashers all youre left with is psychological and thats what you get

It's really hard to integrate the internet into movies without being cringey as fuck though. I guess because the internet's it's own thing, with its own storytelling methods. Its kind of like when TV shows tried to get kids excited about reading, it's not impossible to get right but it's so easy to get wrong.

Unfriended could have done it if they had the ambition to be more than a mediocre slasher in a new dress.

VI is the best friday the 13th film

I think torture porn ruined slashers. After that, you can't easily go back to slashers without continuing to up the the ante, and there's only so far you can go. So now were onto supernatural shenanigans that don't necessarily need to be bloody. I think that's why Paranormal Activity blew the fuck up, because lacked any of the shit we'd gotten way too desensitised to at the time. Now its oversaturating the market and people will become desensitised again, forcing the genre to continue adapting.

i think theres something to that. i watched hostel and just felt disgusted. never again

but the public ate that shit up and then you had Saw blurring the lines between slasher and psychological because he will harm you it'll just be in an edgey teenager way

>I've designed a boat... but all the wood is made from a type of wood that will give you hives... this is a lesson because you once cut down a tree... and did not plant a new one in its wake...

Life is extremely surreal these days with all the rabid change.

Saw stayed relatively consistent though and had a deep lore that basically propped up the existence of the series, especially with the subplot of Jigsaw's legacy, which was a meta way to address/satirize how Halloween and Friday the 13th tried and failed to change villains mid-stream

On a side note, Hostel was a torture porn series that COULD have worked but the sequel killed the franchise. It had lore (The Hunter Club of rich fucks who pay to torture/kill people) and the unique hook of having male protagonists as opposed to the female protagonist.....

But they went the female protagonist route and a plot that was basically part one redux. Failed miserably it did.....

Hostel had a premise that could have worked but you'd need to have changed locations every film.

Hostel 2 had it's moments and there was something interesting that they dropped the ball regarding, in the marketing (where an off-camera voice talks about how much it costs to kill a person depending on their nationality and sex with it being said that a white american woman was basically worth more money-wise to kill if you wanted to pay to kill some one). Not to mention the interplay between the two Desperate Housewives actors regarding the process people go through to get membership and participate in the Hunter Club's kill club.

Funny, today I was thinking about serial killers among the AA community. There was one on the West coast that targeted women, but because the victims were black female prostitutes, he almost got away with it.

I thought Hostel 2 was better, honestly. Mostly because it had more lore going on. But it's true they're painfully similar movies. You really only need to ever watch one of them.

I want 80s gore horror to come back. Slither was a nice attempt. But less CG, more gross as fuck practical effects and unsettling scenes.

>deep lore

Make the killer an insane lefty. He targets normal people with normal opinions but because he was an actual victim of racism as a child he goes around murdering white people at the slightest sense of wrongthink.

I think it would be an interesting critique of our times.

Anything but zombies desu

Does anything come close nowadays to the Maniac remake? Best slasher I've seen since TCM.

>Slasher movie killing millennials

Perfect for a comeback

Halloween > Friday the 13th
Friday the 13th series > Halloween series

>Slasher movie killing millennials
like, omg, i'm being stabbed by some weird undead white guy with a mask. plz rt

#groanzone #UGHwhiteppl #hilldawg2016

Has it really been that long since Hollywood was stuck in a Slasher remake rut? When did it end?

A slasher where a group of white millennial males with yellow fever are stalked and killed by a Asian Kung-Fu Girl.

is this a fetish thing, anonymous? You can tell us, we don't kink shame here

>ywn see a Nightmare sequel with Englund's Freddy killing SJW millennials while quipping about the wage gap and privilege checks

we miss you Wes

Oh god, imagine the quips, stop making me want what I'll never have

Yes, is my fetish.

has there ever been a slasher who was female?

>A slasher where a group of white millennial males with yellow fever are stalked and killed
sounds great
>by a Asian Kung-Fu Girl
sounds shit

All that really springs to mind is psycho stalkers - Fatal Attraction, Swimfan, etc. 'May' qualifies a little, maybe?

Plus female ghosts. And rape revenge girls. But none of those are really slashers.

This is objective fact. The original Halloween is amazing but the series dropped off once John Carpenter left, although H20 is solid. The original Friday the 13th is a cheap knockoff of Bay of Blood/Halloween but most of the sequels are very entertaining and I would argue Jason Lives is better than all of the Halloween sequels.

It actually had a pretty good Slasher found footage short that would have been better as it's own 90min feature.

But here's the cool part about Slasher movies. The tropes are so generic that you can make your own, complete with a Freddy rip off, and no one will care!

Where were you when slasherkino was finally saved and revived?

To be honest, I enjoyed all the Halloween sequels, no matter how stupid some of them were.

Friday is just the exact same movie over and over again until part 8, with small variations each time. Marathoning them is a chore.

C'mon!

Implying any fipshit kids nowadays would spend time in a summer camp rather than at home in front of their x-box.

The killet would be storming into empty bedrooms and chase rabbots because noghing else is there.

Goddamn, that would be so good.

angela, kind of