ITT we rank team sports from most strategic to least
Association Football 10/10 - Strategy is essential to victory >The sport is very low scoring, and the team and manager have very little control of short term tactics, except for very occasionnal set play opportunities. The play is highly dictated by longer term, flow-based concepts and strategy.
American Football 8/10 - Strategy is required, but tactics are essential too >Long term strategy, in the form of chained-together tactical considerations. Games develop in discrete set plays, yet a single series of plays or scoring run seldom determines the game. Consistent strategy long-term along with continuous tactical success is critical.
Basketball 3/10 - Good strategy can win a game, but individual physical performances can upset a good opposing strategy >Similar to Association Football, but with lessened emphasis on strategy. Set plays, tactics, and individual performance outweighs the decision whether or not to run big-men or zone defense.
Baseball 0/10 - no strategy is actually required >Vague wisps of strategy that are vastly outweighed by individual effort and simple statistical variations in gameplay. Low scoring, plus a relatively small amount of time that actual "ball in play" action occurs when compared to the other three sports, means that discrete tactics rule the day. Baseball coach doesn't have any actual impact on his team performance.
Hey frog, change your post to be it's reverse order, and it would be correct.
Chase Collins
>tf >tp
Nolan Campbell
>Amerifats mad as fuck that I'm right Prove me wrong then
Julian Richardson
I just realized, when did you add the red and blue to your flag?
Nathaniel Foster
NHL -2/10 Just a pile of random wank
Jackson Reed
We copied yours after we liberated you from the Brits
Owen Barnes
Then why do I always see a white one being flown, when learning about different wars?
Brayden Mitchell
>10/10 - Strategy is essential to victory it's literally just rolling a ball in the grass. even completely uneducated dirt poor children can pick it up very quickly, isn't that usually the appeal of how "universal" the sport is that you guys always go on about?
Jordan Howard
>american banter
Christian Peterson
>. Low scoring, plus a relatively small amount of time that actual "ball in play" action occurs when compared to the other three sports, means that discrete tactics rule the day. .... the ball is literally always in play in a baseball game
Parker Roberts
That's what you believe. If it was this easy and this based on luck, all teams would win equally any league or cup. But no, strategy is paramount in winning in football.
Jeremiah Carter
I thought Arab money and pay to win is paramount in winning in football
Andrew Howard
yeah that's why PSG won again this year. Oh wait it was Monaco and its wonderkids trained in its formation center
Dominic Diaz
It's Chinese money now. Arab money only guarantees disappointment and the possibility of bankruptcy
Hunter Hughes
>in Soccernomics Kuper asserted that the impact of managers is very limited >90% of all managers could be replaced by their secretary or a fluffin' teddy bear and nobody would notice the difference There are plenty of studies on the impact of managers in european leagues. The conclusion is the same: very few managers have an impact and it's the quality of players they get to work with. In the international game managers have even less impact.
Brandon Price
>Simon Kuper (b. October 15, 1969, Kampala, Uganda) is a British author and sports journalist. Oh yeah, trust the anglos. This book is obviously shit and plainly wrong. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about
Colton Torres
Pesäpallo 10/10
Ryder Perry
>baseball >not 10/10 Is French a black country?
Cooper Moore
1. Test cricket
10. Rugby union
20. Baseball
nothing else matters
Juan Harris
that's strategy-wise, not race-wise. Baseball requires little if no strategy at all.
Ryder Cook
dumb frog
the fact that you think fucking soccer has strategy says it all
Nicholas Kelly
>Football >Baseball >Basketball >Soccer
This is the correct order 100%
Kevin Gray
go back to your mixed netball, faggot tripfag thinking his opinion is relevant
Hunter Davis
netball has more tactical depth than soccer
Brody Sanders
cricket>soccer>American Football>Basketball
Connor Young
even before looking at it >fixed positions >woman-to-woman marking >only 2 players can score >no set plays >everyone stops when a player has the ball oh yeah great tactical depth you have here
Alexander Reed
1. T20 Cricket Power gap 99. ODI Cricket Power gap 999. Test Cricket Power gap 99999. Everything else
Michael Cook
1) Soccer - Draws from the largest pool of players of any sport (i.e. can be played by manlets and normal people alike) and has an ideal balance between skill and athleticism. 2) Basketball - High tempo game that rewards creativity and team play, but gamed at the elite level by tall orangutan armed men who make the game more boring and less accessible to 99% of the population. 3) There are no other relevant team sports
Gabriel Sullivan
what has this got to do with strategy you fucking fat amerishart
Ayden Miller
do you have something constructive to write for once Australia? or will you shitpost forever?
Caleb Howard
So you're just going to discount any argument that doesn't prove you right with no evidence other than "Anglos don't know what they're talking about"? Regardless, I don't think baseball is a ton of strategy, but the managers do a decent amount of work rotating the pitching staff to give them the best chance to win without working their stars to death. I also think American football should be at the top. It's almost more a chess match between coaches than it is a game between players. When it comes to soccer, I think you're mistaking teamwork for strategy. Soccer teams have basically one formation they play in, and after that it's up to the player's natural instincts according to the sport. It's not like American football where each time the ball is in play, the formation could be different. Besides, the most a soccer manager can do is yell at a few players close to him while the game is going on. Not really great for strategic adjustments on the fly
Jack Myers
>Australia >something constructive to write for once >shitpost forever
Hummmmmm
James Evans
maybe I will when everyone else stops spouting utter tripe
Parker Brooks
Great post, but stragegy ≠ tactics An American football game is a succession of set plays, where the coach can use a different tactics every time In an Association football game, players adopt a strategy, which can be modified and adapted, but not deeply changed. i.e. possession based strategy + high press, or counter-attack + defend low
Jordan Myers
Football doesn't have any strategic depth, it literally just consists of giving the ball to the player in space repeating indefinitely and always having a player cover the space in front of the defence.
Nathaniel Taylor
>the sport with 11 players depends less on the individual than the sport with 5 players
THANKS FOR YOUR SCIENCE BASED OP
Isaac Thompson
Basketball involves tons of strategy and adjustments. The thing with basketball is that coaches implement a system that run automatically during the game, the game is too fast for a coach to call a play every position. The warriors offense is one of the most complex things in sports.
Sockerball has almost no strategy, it's all just reacting to the tone of the game. Same with hockey
Basketball has a medium amount of strategy, you have to adjust your team constantly and manage minutes for star players, etc.
Baseball has a lot of strategy but you're still reacting to an almost unpredictable event occurring every play, still you have to play percentages with where you place fielders, which pinch hitters to use and when, etc.
American football is basically like chess. Every single play is dictated by the coaches who have to take so many things into consideration. Each player adjusts on the fly and before the play
Nathaniel Murphy
I'm confused on the semantics here: strategy vs. tactics. Soccer players have relatively very little time to strategize what their plan of attack is going to be. Sure they hash it out at half and such, but once they're out there they're pretty much relying on instinct between themselves - passing in the open lanes, and pretty much relying on quick reflexes and striking ability. In American football, the coach is authoring every single play. The players are coming together to understand the play, and pretty much every move they make is determined before the snap, so it's entirely strategic.
The same is almost true for baseball. The catcher is calling out every pitch beforehand, determining the pitch according to the playing style of who's at bat, and what the game situation is. Additionally, the formations are set according to what's happening too.
There's a ton of mid-game strategizing and play calling for basketball too, but chance is much more of a factor I.e. the ball falling or not.
1. American football 2. Basketball 3. Baseball 4. Soccer
Mason Walker
>this post about the #1 sport in the World >this 1,326,801,576 inhabitants flag no wonder your team is ranked #100, between Kazakhstan and Mauritius
Chase Brown
see
Brody Morgan
yeah it's because 1,326,801,576 inhabitants only play one sport and it isn't soccer
Andrew Barnes
football is the poor people sport, that you play with no shoes and a ragsball. they have no excuses to not produce at least 20 decent players
Carter Murphy
How does more tactics = less strategy? Football coaches are spending an entire week determining the strategy for a single game - will we prioritize running/passing, what will they prioritize, etc.
Hunter Reed
here's an excuse, their 1,326,801,576 inhabitants only play one sport and it isn't soccer
Carson Hall
Soccer is India's most popular sport. Plenty of people play it. It will overtake pakipaddle in the next 20 years.
Brody Gomez
lmoa
Jackson Murphy
second most popular sport*
Nicholas Reed
>Baseball has a lot of strategy but you're still reacting to an almost unpredictable event occurring every play, still you have to play percentages with where you place fielders, which pinch hitters to use and when, etc.
Pesäpallo multiplies this all. American sports journalist wrote about pesäpallo fielding "The degree of movement from play to play evokes NFL defensive schemes more than Major League Baseball defensive shifts." And about offensive play "In Finland, hitters put nearly every pitch in play, sending fielders scampering in every direction."
In baseball, baserunner is safe or out. In pesäpallo there is a third option. And batter can hit max three times.
Justin Allen
that's hockey actually
Lincoln Wilson
Big surprise, a Yuro thinks his shitty sport is superior to ours.
Jason Turner
>A Nielsen survey in 2010 found that 47% of India's 1.2 billion population would describe themselves as football fans.
Justin Evans
yeah but far few actually play the sport, they just watch the EPL
Nathan Garcia
How do you know?
Jason Wood
I know a lot of Indians, among other things
Aaron Ward
So do I. They all tell me all the kids play it there. Nice arguing.
Elijah Jenkins
yeah but you don't have "among other things" to fall back on
Grayson Brown
Your post shows you understand little about football. You think it's just passing until a space open? That they rely only on their reflexes and skill to score? Basically: luck based? That's why the outcome of games are impossible to predict, because football, as you imply, is based on luck. Joke asides, it looks like you don't understand the difference between strategy (=the grand plan), and tactics (= the plan for now) For example, when Guardiola says "my team gonna to keep the ball, so opponents can't score", it's a possession-based strategy When Klopp says "my team gonna always press the opponents so they make an error we can exploit", it's a high tempo-based strategy In these 2 cases, managers want players that fit in their strategies, that's why Guardiola fired Hart, because he couldn't play well with his feet. That's why Liverpool wasn't very good at the start of the season, because Liverpool players weren't fit to run 20 km per game. Even hoofball is a strategy, you say "my team gonna play a lot of aerial balls in the center", so you need tall athletic players
And American football is all set plays, where things are reset to a "zero" state, so when you can devise a tactic. I don't say it isn't strategic. But the approach is more tactic than strategic, when association football is more strategic than tactic.
Nathan Thomas
he asked personnally every 1,326,801,576 Indians.
Isaiah Wilson
>a play by play sport based on territorial control/invasion, with multiple packages, infinite tactics, unlimited time of possession, time outs and variable scoring methods/values somehow requires less strategy than association football Not saying it requires more, but you're definetly underestimating handegg.
>Baseball >0/10 Just stop, don't post about a sport if you don't know anything about it.
Austin Lee
so please enlight us, Paquito. For example, could you describe some of the mighty grand strategies of baseball? >inb4 you can't, because before devising strategies, first you have to hit the baseball, which is literally one of the hardest thing to do in the damned universe
Asher Smith
>Pitching rotations >Game of probabilities >Impact of batting order >Small ball >Pinch hitter >Substitutions >Double switch And that's not considering the meta game or even tournament strategies >because before devising strategies, first you have to hit the baseball what kind of meme argument is this? just because association football can end in a draw doesn't mean any other sport requires 0 strategy
Lucas Myers
I only see one who could pass as a general strategy, all other are tactics Also, the "first you have to hit the baseball" argument isn't mine. It's Jimmie Dykes "you can't steal first base". Meaning all your *strategies* are inept and useless until you hit the baseball. Baseball would be a sport where you can make grand strategies, but also think you have 5% (prob of basehit) of even having the mere chance of being able to apply them. So, not a strategic sport, sorry.
Camden Murphy
>I only see one who could pass as a general strategy, all other are tactics
Ryan Rogers
Jimmie Dykes is somehow more illiterate about baseball than you. >team can't hit the ball >change the strategy (accept more strikes, swing less, swing more, seek for contact, try to bunt, etc) >suddenly have a person on base not to mention a good rotation management can keep even the best batting team cold
Ryan Cox
>I don't rate Jimmy Dykes
Nicholas Peterson
Baseball has no strategy, which is why its a dying sport
See: Profession Baseball games attendance
Lucas Bailey
>rotating pitchers is a legitimate part of baseball strategy >pitchermongs cant vary how they throw a ball
wew, didnt realize baseball was a """sport""" for retards
Angel Perry
>Also, the "first you have to hit the baseball" argument isn't mine. It's Jimmie Dykes "you can't steal first base".
In pesäpallo you can steal first base. Strategy of this club has been "running speed over batting power, defence over offensive"
>based pesäpallo confirmed to be superior to boreball
Kevin Taylor
Tennis - 5/10
the reality is that the more talented/higher ranked player wins most of the time, but tactics/strategy have an impact on certain courts like grass and just generally at the very elite level of the game
Joshua Long
>pitchermongs cant vary how they throw a ball according to who? Doesn't it have more revenue than most leagues out there? Also, it's a boring sport. Average joe doesn't want to sit 4 hours of almost 0 highlights.
Christopher Hernandez
what would be the point in rotating pitchers then? couldnt they just throw the ball differently
Grayson Long
how do we rate dodgeball?
Ethan Flores
Like muggle quidditch, sport is too young to be rated. Some efficient strategies may have empirically emerged, but the sport probably haven't been theorized yet.
Kevin Fisher
They all have different throws, but they all vary in effectiveness depending on the throw. Some pitchers clean the house via infield plays (meaning batters often find the ball) others are strikeout machines (usually throw more). Left/Right hand matchups or saving the pitchers for future games (limiting his pitch count).
Not saying it requires a shitload of strategy, but definetly more than 0/10. Probably more than some individual sports.
Josiah Parker
Nice job making us all look like retards.
Luis Perry
The fuck you are talking about. How many times have you seen this season real madrid get fucked strategically and even overplayed just to win by lel Ramos header or TSUUUUUU. In football individual performance have a great weight. Often the team that makes the less mistakes (individual mistakes) is the team that wins.
Nathan Sullivan
Great insight of writing that before taking 3-0 from Germany C team. Stay pleb Mexico, you don't understand football, and never will.