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Who is the best single-appearance character in Star Trek?

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Nice spoilers, Decipher.

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shooter mcgavin

That's basically cheating, it's more Étoile randonnée than Star Trek

Remember when George Costanza had a vagina on his forehead?

Trek threads are the only good thing about Sup Forums

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So he was a Q right?

robbie rotton?

Seriously? Other than being okay with dying to save history he didn't really stand out that much to me.

Also he got cucked by a Romulan.

Did The Q need machines to maintain their omnipotence?

Trelane, son.

I've just started watching The Next Generation, when it gets good? i'm on season 1

Bro this

who did you expect?

Season 2 begins a slow incline towards quality but it doesn't get consistently good until well into season 3.

First 2 seasons have good moments but it isn't till S3 that it gets more consistently good.

has anyone ITT seen Army Dog? Which TNG episode is it closest related to?

>First 2 seasons have good moments
The second season has good moments. The first season isn't good at all. Not one solitary minute of it works.

>implying

Like for an episode or a story arc?

Didn't even choose the best episode from that season? Get out of here.

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I just picked the most beloved episode.

>Best cold opening
>Mystery to solve
>Frasier cameo
>Ship destruction
>Groundhog day

All round comfy episode

There are a few great episodes in season 1:

>The Arsenal of Freedom
>We'll Always Have Paris
>Conspiracy
>The Neutral Zone

Then a few more great episodes in season 2:

>Elementary, Dear data
>A Matter of Honor
>The Measure of a Man
>The Royale
>Q Who?

But mostly it's bad until season 3 and beyond.

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>The Royal
my nigga

>The Royale
>The Arsenal of Freedom
>Elementary, Dear Data
I don't like any of those episodes, but I can almost kind of see why someone could conceivably like the others.

>The Measure of a Man

This was the turning point for the series

I find the Star Trek shows to be rather boring (although the original series can be somewhat entertaining), are the movies any different, or better. Can I enjoy them without knowing much about the shows?
I heard the only good ones are 2, 4, 6 and so on.

what's the best show considered anyways? I tried watching the one with Patrick Stewart, but the pacing is goddamn awful. I really can't watch an hour of that shit, same as X-Files and many other shows that go this long. None of the plots really warrant this length, IMO

Don't think you're into Star Trek, then. That's fine. Watch something else. It's all good.

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Lmao that ending

that season of haruhi was great.

The best show is DS9 with Avery Brooks. However, both that show and the Patrick Stewart show start off bad but improve MASSIVELY if you give them a chance.

Watch movies 2, 3 and 4, skip 5, and watch 6. 3 isn't as good but 2-4 is a trilogy so you can't skip it.

"Every odd numbered Star Trek movie is bad" is a dumb Simon Pegg meme. All of the TOS movies are good, some better than others but still good, and the TNG movies are pretty much shit. First Contact you'd probably like.

is this copypasta?

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1 isn't nearly as bad as people say, but stay away from 5. 6 is pretty good too. The TNG movies are mostly solid except for Nemesis, and First Contact is the best of them.

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DS9 didn't start off as rocky as TNG, mainly because Roddenberry wasn't around to veto everything.

You've probably learned enough about Star Trek through cultural osmosis to watch the TOS movies.

If you like 2001: A Space Odyssey, watch The Motion Picture
Otherwise, start with Wrath of Khan and watch through to The Undiscovered Country. 3 is bad but required to understand 6 which is great. 5 is okay, the rest are excellent.

Of the TNG movies, only Generations and First Contact are worth watching. You can watch Generations without knowing anything else but you should probably watch TNG: The Best Of Both Worlds before you watch First Contact.

So have we just officially abandoned all stops now and declared /trek/ a 'general'?
A few months ago there were significant efforts to avoid this

Why couldn't Night Terrors have been as good overall as this one scene? What a wasted premise.

people have been saying the odd numbered ones are bad since the 80s you cant blame pegg

Wojak and Pepe at Auschwitz

Daily reminder that Captain Maxwell inspired loyalty in every member of his crew by honestly caring about them and socialising with them as equals, he was a master in the art of interstellar battle and was completely holding his own against the flagship of the Federation, he fought for the Federation with everything he had, and Picard railroaded him to maintain peace with the traitorous, warmongering spoonheads.

Captain Benjamin "Maximum Spoonhead Casualties" Maxwell was a hero and did nothing wrong.

>In the ranks of death you'll find him

>it's a janeway must deal with the pandarens episode

It's a shame Mulgrew didn't get cast in a better show.

floating Troi's "one moon" and her dark eyes "in the dark".

That shit was pretty lame but the rest of the episode was intriguing.

¿Dónde estás?
Où êtes vous?
Wo bist du?
Dove sei?
أين أنت؟
איפה אתה?
どこにいますか?
你在哪里?
Гдe ты?
Που είσαι?
Var är du bork bork bork?

¿Que eres? ¿Quién eres? Tratando de encontrar! Ya voy a encontrar! ¿Dónde? ¿Dónde? ¿Dónde estás?

oh but she did

the first 20 minutes of the first episode is good

WhereAreYouMind

one of the best episodes in the series

ONE MOON....IN THE DARK

>A few months ago there were significant efforts to avoid this
It was two or three guys who complained at the start of threads then either left or stopped shitposting. I've been exclusively browsing /trek/ on Sup Forums for a while now and there's no difference between generals and other Star Trek threads except generals tend to have terms that show up in catalogue searches and highlight rules so more people can find them.

>it's a WTF I love troi now episode

It's just like one or two autists who didn't get their mother's breast milk as a child.

We can pity them.

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Why do /trek/ threads have the highest concentration of autists per post on Sup Forums?

>It's an all the characters get addicted to listening to radio episode

I identified with the sentiment but the suffocating black lady channel wasn't very funny except in the obvious way.

She was great in Game of Thrones

>H-HEY MIIIIILLLLLLEEESSSS!!?!? Have you seen my Klingon Cactus of Children With Bajoran Noses? I-I'm asking for a friend

>Mirror Garak in a collar

What did they mean by this?

>there was never a mirror TNG

spank me harder bashir

Man the 7th season of DS9 is a shitshow. Ezri is a poorly thought out character, Bashir is even less of a character than in season 6, they ruined Dukat by turning him into space hitler, the space battle are pretty terrible and Vic Fontaine is that close from being a lead character

>John "Lucky" Luke Pickhard
>Adventurer, scoundrel, tea-drinker
>Hunting down all the mythological weapons throughout history and using them to equip the Terran Empire for a glorious strike again the Alliance

Q shows up occasionally to test Pickhard on behalf of humanity to see if they're badass motherfuckers enough to eternally BTFO The Borg.

>the space battle are pretty terrible
We can't be friends anymore user

>mirror Q

not sure if want

The less people in Trek threads, the higher their quality
Where we are now (28 IPs) is ideal, when you start getting near 50 it's just awful

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

>the space battle are pretty terrible

Q? I'm Starfleet.

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>Aged like milk
>Battles on ships that can travel lightyears in seconds with weapons that travel at lightspeed with a range of about 300.000 kilometers are done 30 meters appart because it's more epic
I'll pass

>shields don't exist

That's Mirror Garak though, which means regular Garak would be on top.

"Commander, tell me about your flight plan."

That's still the wrong filename.

And now you're replying to yourself.

Did they just forget to put the shields up?

There's nothing good about Sup Forums.

You said it yourself. They have FTL, you can't fire a weapon at them from long range because they'll spot it and dodge or destroy it unless it's something crazy powerful like Dreadnought or Warhead which isn't cost effective, even post-scarcity.

And fuck you, it still looks great considering it's SD.

They've already gone down from enemy fire before you see them,

That's how I rationalise it anyway, it's never explained

It's sort of implied the continuum is something they either broke into with technology, or created with technology.

The Q are energy being who didn't reach that point naturally, they forged their own enlightenment with. That one of the reasons that many other energy level races are hostile to them, and why they seem to bother the material world so much, they aren't truly evolved, so super powerful.

I got this impression too, but also that some of them really buy into their own "high and wonderful" bullshit and really believe themselves to be Gods which is what has lead to the stagnation of their culture and evolution.

That Odo frame was bothering me

I wouldn't call the TNG movies mostly solid, even First Contact, which is by far the best one, has them trying to turn Picard into a action hero and acting way out of character.

Massacring people and possibly starting an interstellar war is not the right thing to do when there's still a good chance the war is avoidable. What was Maxwell going to do when faced with all the Fed civilians who would have died if he got his way?

So the solution to this "cost effectiveness problem" is to make 1000 manned vessels act like fighter jet and rush in the melee?
Sorry user, but that's horseshit.
If a weapon is going at the speed of light, even if you're 10.000 miles away nobody will see it coming

Exactly.

If a caveman found a machine gun, he'd be king dick in the paleolithic era for as long as it worked. But he can't build another one, and doesn't really even understand "why" it works, it just does.

The Q are the cavemen, and the continuum is their machine gun. It's makes them king dick of the other material races, and even dangerous to the energy races, but they didn't invent it, design it, and don't understand it.

>nobody will see it coming
Automatic sensors will see it coming and the ship will automatically evade.

He has such dreamy eyes.

Not in 3.3x10-2 second they wont

Riker's so fucking tall it's not fair

Another problem with long range combat is the overwhelmingly strong shielding in the ST universe.

Phasers dissipate to much even after a couple of miles to be useless against even the automatic deflector shielding.

Additionally it's implied that when traveling at warp, you pass right through normal space objects. So if you fired a warp torpedo, it's have to get close to it's target, then drop out of warp, then hit the ship. Subspace detection can see the torpedo incoming, and it's be a trivial matter to be prepared for it.