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Can we get a Star Trek thread going. I've been watching DS9 a lot recently and have finals coming up so distract me as much as you can please

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Friendly reminder Dukat did nothing wrong

Tell me, how did you contract Kalla-Nohra syndrome?

Except put his dick in filthy Bajorans.

tell me you wouldn't

I wouldn't. Didn't you see that hottie Cardassian who hit on O'Brien?

Does TNG ever actually get good? I know it has good episodes but I mean the show as a whole, is it ever consistently good on average?

>That episode where he has a half Cardassian baby with some married Bajoran

I loved how Dukat simply couldn't keep it in his pants for Bajor women. There's probably a whole orphanage of half Cardassian babies he personally created on Bajor.

After you get past season 2 you're good

why are there so many uniform changes?

Movies.

DS9 Gray > TOS > Khan > VOY/DS9 > ENT > TNG

What was his fucking problem?

He was always a dick to people below him in command

The beard.

I thinks thats universally agreed upon

Did Chekhov do porn?

Nope. Porn did Chekhov!

What's the matter cadet?
Can't handle a strong superior officer?

> can we get an _____ thread going?

no

You are erratic. Conflicted. Disorganised. Every decision is debated, every action questioned, every individual entitled to their own small opinion. You lack harmony, cohesion, greatness.
It will be your undoing.

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

>its a pon far episode

The only thing he did wrong, was not turning Bajor into the largest graveyard the galaxy had ever scene, cementing Cardassia's position as the true power in the Alpha Quadrant.

Dukat was too kind.

>It's not a Seven breast expansion poster
Why even bother?

I'd forgotten what a cheeky cunt Garak was in the early seasons.

>24th century
>powered exoskeletons for cripples still aren't a thing

Why did that episode come across as so adventitious?
Every thing felt like the writer threw on the most expectant dialogue and made the cripple sound like a whiny cunt.
If I was a cripple watching that, I'd practically want to strangle her then the writer for writing her as, not a cunt, but such and obvious cunt.

I also thought her Dolph Lundgren jaw made her hardly all that attractive. She looked like a male Swede with some sort of skull fracture.

I don't even know why I'm re-watching it.

I do. It's called OCD and it's perfectly fine.
Also, the Klingon restaurante scene...
I'm still cringing and wincing in pain from that one as well.

what?

Captain. I recommend a full spread of torpedoes!

Do you guys expect Discovery to be decent?

No.

Not yet, Mr. Worf. We wouldn't want any rash action to put us all in jeopardy!

if by
decent
you mean
exceptionally bad
then yes, it'll be decent

But sir the Romulans are charging weapons!

god worf youre so fucking stupid and violent jee whiz shut up.

I never understood why she wouldn't just be able to grow the fucking muscles and still float around in 0g.

Also
>you let me fly for the first time
How the fuck do you enter Starfleet - much less learn to pilot a shuttle - without spending any time in a weightless environment?

>MIIIIILLLEEESSSS!!?! Have you seen my Ferengi Spontaneous Explosion Begonias?

Had he been totally ruthless and just butchered people, he might still have Bajor and be a hero to his people, or at worst shat on by historians centuries later. He tried to avoid pointless cruelty and for that he was spat on by both sides.

Kind of a fucked up message.

Hold fast, lieutenant! We'll fire when they do, not a second before..

some dumbass in these threads was so desperate to defend DS9 he actually unironically said miles and keiko had a good marriage,

I haven't really read much about it other than the general concept. I hate that we're getting another prequel, but other than that what's wrong with it? Don't know much about the creators here.

They've opened fire sir! Shields down to 60%.

We must retaliate now!

>I never understood why she wouldn't just be able to grow the fucking muscles and still float around in 0g.

Or that she was crippled at all.
I feel like the entire episode was written to appear to the handicapped and give Julian a story but in the end they gave us a bitchy character who had a disease that you'd expect we'd long been capable of curing.
It also continued the trend of Julian looking like a bumbling fumbling beta for any female he's attached to, even though the guy is a medical doctor who's supposed to be objective about the patients he works with.

>How the fuck do you enter Starfleet - much less learn to pilot a shuttle - without spending any time in a weightless environment?

>How much of your zero-gravity training do you remember, Mr. Worf?
>I remember it made me sick to my stomach

- Star Trek: First Contact

Melora came first though so it's not really their fault, but I agree that there's no way they'd let you graduate the academy without ever experiencing zero gravity, if you couldn't handle it you'd be fucking useless if the power ever went down on the ship before you had time to get into some gravity boots.

Writing staff has changed to a literally who that's never been involved with any Trek

Premiering on some gimmick streaming service

It's already been delayed; it was supposed to air in January but it hasn't even been cast yet.

The first article about it was basically the writers sucking off all of the usual SJW rhetoric - muh diversity, muh feminism, etc. - and they've kept it up

Prequel

Stupid fucking ship design that makes no sense

I don't recall the specific thread you're referring to but you should remember that Star Trek only shows the interesting stuff, the series takes place over 7 years and we probably saw every instance of them having problems during that time because the rest wouldn't be interesting. Miles loved Keiko, and Keiko loved Miles, but they were real people and real people fight sometimes.

They probably did have a good marriage in the grand scale of things.

Steady - This is just a tap on the shoulder. On my orders and only then!

A species that evolved in a low gravity environment would probably have a lower maximum muscle threshold than a human, she probably needed to maintain a state of being as ripped as is physically possible for a female member of her species all the time just to deal with normal gravity as well as an average human.

It was definitely a terrible episode though and I hated the character, and if I was doing it I'd have tried to find an actress that was petite with a very athletic frame to give a better idea of what she's overcome.

It's like they are trying to appeal not just to the Reddit crowd, but the fringe Reddit crowd.
The literal hair dyed, revolting ball of goo, mentally unstable types.
It would be much safer to be direct about your intents in the days when pirating is the rule AND when dealing with such a huge lore whose fans will point out your bad writing without apology.

So why not just 'roid?

Shields are down to 30%. Hull breaches on levels 5 and 6!

I have a target lock on their weak spot Captain. We will not have this window again! WE MUST FIRE NOW

Oh that's right. I feel stupid but that shows how completely forgettable the episode was.
They treated her entirely like a cripple and not like someone who came from a planet with lighter gravity (which seems like the only novel idea of the episode in hindsight).

You couldn't have a character taking illegal drugs and it being a good thing on prime-time TV.

That's definitely a sensible suggestion though and I think post-enlightenment humans would be open to the idea as insane hysteria about drugs doesn't appear to exist in Star Trek.

Mr. Worf, open hailing frequencies. We cannot risk a war here on the edge of the neutral zone!

I'm not sure if you're implying that shields are down completely or if they're just focused towards the enemy with thirty percent strength remaining on that portion.

I don't see how there could be hull breaches if the shields were down and that seems to be a way of explaining it.

Wait I thought Nicholas Meyer was one of the writers? That was one of the things that made my ears perk up when I was hearing info about it. I'm interested in seeing if he can write good TV.

And honestly I don't get how "SJW shit" is somehow a turnoff as far as Trek goes. Diversity and Feminism aren't new to Trek. I don't really give a shit as long as it's done well. Shitty Trek episodes are bad even if I agree with the writer's point.

Starships have multiple shield arrays with overlapping coverage because weapons technology is so good that a single photon with shields down will destroy a ship about 99% of the time

>Lateral shields
>Dorsal shields
>Ventral shields
>Nagivational shields

etc.

AAAAAAAGGHHH

Not that guy but Star Trek in the past has occasionally had episodes with progressive themes, e.g. pic related, but they didn't focus on it in every episode by having a main character embody them and that's what I have a problem with.

WAIT

...


I sense something

Hasperat? It's very spicy.

>CBS All Access's Star Trek: Discovery is keeping its promise to feature a gay character in its central cast. The series announced today that Anthony Rapp, famous for playing Mark in the original Broadway cast of Rent, has joined the cast to play Lieutenant Samuels, a "fungus expert and Starfleet science officer" on the titular starship Discovery who also happens to be gay

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Ensign, get us out of here - MAXIMUM WARP!

I bet he won't just happen to be gay though, I bet his gayness will be a bigger deal than they're making out

What? TOS is often praised because "Black woman, Asian guy and Russian etc as regulars on a TV show was so uncommon", and Gene in interviews said he did it to be what was considered "progressive" at the time.

Is this what people are referencing when they say Discovery will be SJW shit? Who cares? Gay characters are in like every other show nowadays. I don't give a fuck as long as they don't constantly reference it in the show. What they say in interviews to pander to SJWs shouldn't really be relevant.

I thought mental illness had been cured by the 23rd century though?

Checov being there was progressive, but you could identify that by the fact he talked with a Russian accent, they threw in some jokes about how Russia invented everything too so it didn't ruin the tone.

Similarly, Uhura just being there was progressive and you could identify it by the colour of her skin, you didn't have to have her talking about MLK or the civil rights movement to notice it.

Unless he's a lisping, limp-wristed gay stereotype, they can't do that with Lieutenant Samuels, they'll have to have him checking out the male cast or mentioning it all the time, and progressive hysteria will forbid them from having jokes at his expense so I don't see how they can deal with it without ruining the Star Trek theme of "it just doesn't fucking matter to us" they usually adopted.

>I don't give a fuck as long as they don't constantly reference it in the show
How do you think they'll do it? Honest question.

Is there a guide for Voyager? I've seen them for TOS, TNG and DS9, but I don't think I've ever seen one for Voyager

>'roids
>illegal

Just watch it all, my friend.
Voyager is 100% canon.

They're legal for medical treatments but not recreational use, they would have had to spend a long time properly framing it as "this is a legitimate medical use and she couldn't just go to the fucking holo-gym or not be in zero gravity" to get away with that. And I suspect even if they did, the FCC still wouldn't allow it. Better not to take the risk filming an episode that could be canned.

Remember that time Spot was turned into a snake?

The guy who made the guides with the funny comments but incorrect ratings hasn't finished the Voyager one, it just ends at Threshold.

Unless you're going to drop dead before it's possible to finish the series, just watch it all. That applies to all of them, the only one I'd accept someone never watching is Shades of Gray because the only new content is a framing device for the clip show. (Riker gets an infection that can be cured by watching a clip show).

The important thing is that their agenda has generally been matter-of-fact, not self-congratulatory. That's not what they're doing this time around,.

What is in hasperat anyway? The exterior looks like some kind of tortilla wrap. It also looks like there is some kind of spinach in the inside.

>That applies to all of them, the only one I'd accept someone never watching is Shades of Gray because the only new content is a framing device for the clip show. (Riker gets an infection that can be cured by watching a clip show).
WRONG!

The whole first half of the episode is new material.

Do you not forget Riker getting bit by the poisonous vine?

Him not being able to be brought back through the transporter??

WATCH IT ALL!

I thought it was some kind of baked root vegetable or tuber.

>Remember that time Spot was turned into a snake?

he was turned into a frog ya goof

What does Sup Forums think of the new Deep Space 9?

user, that's not a snake, it has no shell.

Not Cardassian enough.

>Why did fashion, innovations in design and methods of producing textiles change over the course of 250 years?

Cmon now.

I think it takes away from the non-connected pylon's graceful space.

Looks more robotic and I very much dislike it.

Top and bottom pylons are for large ships to docked. Now there's no room....

>Hasperat was a well-known spicy Bajoran food resembling a burrito. It was made using a specially prepared brine, which if made correctly would cause the eyes to water and sear the tongue.

rolled up salty burrito

Only Riker is allowed to have fun on the ship. Picard hates fun so it's never a conflict.

>How do you think they'll do it? Honest question.
Dunno. Depends on what kind of personality they give the guy. I mean, if they made him act like Kirk and had him bang some male aliens, for example, I don't think I'd care even though that fits your criteria of him having his sexuality on display.

Eh, I seriously doubt the latter has ever not factored in on some level. DS9 crew was pretty self-congratulatory, for instance, when they had Dax kiss another woman and they got some complaints over it.

It's something marinated in a spicy brine. I suspect it is a vegetable too seeing as the Bajorans always seemed like faggy vegetarians like Hindus or whatever and it would be difficult to keep animals for meat in an underground terrorist movement.

>first half
It's like 15 minutes including the 1 and a half minute title credits.

Sure, but before they didn't predicate their entire show on "holy shit look how many chinks, trannies fags and niggers this show is going to have my fellow tumblrkin and redditors; aren't we just the coolest?"

I liked the Dozai.

>AHHH Kaylos. Arent they gorgeous. One bite and you'll puff up like a Vagol fish!

>Doug Jones, famous for his turns as mystical beings in Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, and even Buffy, will also join the Discovery cast as Lieutenant Saru, a "an alien species new to the Star Trek universe." We already know that Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon's Michelle Yeoh is in the cast as Captain Georgiou, who heads up the starship Shenzhou.

>prequel
>new alien species never mentioned before
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Not a great quality image but I think I see red peppers, spinach, and guacamole in there. Not the greatest vegetarian wrap to use as a prop but certainly not the worst.

I imagine the spice-factor of hasperat being like that of kimchi.

>I mean, if they made him act like Kirk and had him bang some male aliens, for example, I don't think I'd care even though that fits your criteria of him having his sexuality on display.

Open male kissing on the show would death knell it immediately. Only gay men would watch. Mainly because there are far more straight people than gay people and most straight people find homosexual acts repulsive.

And guess what? It used to be defined as a legitimate mental illness in the DSM-APA manual of psychiatric diagnoses until action groups in the 1970s lobbied against it.

And guess what else? Bryan Fuller himself is gay and told media that these progressive stories would be the focal point of the new series.

I wonder why he's gone now.

shit memory alpha also has this at the bottom.

The Star Trek Encyclopedia (3rd ed., pp. 184-184) had this to say about hasperat: "According to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine property master Joe Longo, the prop food used for hasperat was made from flour tortillas, layered with cream cheese, with red and green peppers. The tortillas are rolled, then sliced and served. Yum!"

Me too. They were like a cross between the Ferengi and the Klingons but myserious. I like it when they have alien aliens in the show, didn't fucking understand them at all.

Like why would they be so hostile to selling MORE goods to the Ferengi?

And I always got the impression that Zek was just bluffing the whole time and took credit for being a genius when Quark suggested to him that he was trying to contact The Dominion. Anyone else? It was very confusing.

Honestly I would prefer a full-on bisexual "anything that moves" captain who regularly needs to make use of the Harkness Test.