Why does it keep happening? Why do Americans keep defending their guns...

Why does it keep happening? Why do Americans keep defending their guns? It increasingly looks more and more pathetic to the rest of the world.

>IF ONLY EVERYONE HAD A GUN WE'D BE THE SAFEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD

The people who believe this are legit retarded. The people who think their right to own a murder weapon for self defence trumps the wider need for a safer society which is basically conclusively proved is the case in a majority of cases of guns vs no guns nations, are at their core selfish dickheads who are just crying about their toys being taken away from them. And also retarded, statistically speaking because more guns that get bought for self defence end up causing injury or death to the gun owner's friends and family from accidents, suicide, or crimes of passion.

Then you have the idiots with Freudian masculinity issues who associate guns with virility and displaying their power to other males, and have deluded themselves into believing they can be completely unfit and beta but because they have guns they are somehow superior as males to their equivalents elsewhere in the world. Dumb as fuck and extremely primitive.

The only argument that holds merit is that it would be impossible to take everyone's guns away at this point and then only criminals and crazies would have guns, but this is an awful argument, because it basically admits that the country is fucked forever and that no one has any hope of ever fixing the situation.

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0 guns were used on 9/11

now what?

Tell the Parisians they do not have enough gun and grenade control in their city.

"Conservatives" can't say that non-whites shouldn't be allowed to own guns so they're forced into these retarded memes that are hilariously stupid on their face

The idea that you could arm Chicago more than it already is for instance fucking kek

That's the fault of bad gun control, caused by schengen and no borders combined with a terrible external EU border that is right next to a warzone, in addition to letting in hundreds of potential terrorists into that EU borderless area. Next argument please.

fuck off you cucked tea nigger, you actually belive this wouldn't have happened with gun regulations?

> Admitting gun control does not work

I thought having more guns was supposed to stop things like this from happening? why didn't anyone else shoot him?

Violent ideology is the weapon.

A gun, a suicide vest, a bomb, a hammer, a cup -- these are a means to an end.

If only we had gun control like France and Belgium :-(

Guns itself are not the biggest problem.

Problem is the US culture that breeds maniacs and that culture is spilling all over the earth

It was a terrorist attack you retard. Do you think terrorists care about gun laws?

So basically gun control will only work in an isolated country with no history of guns and mandatory metal detectors at every entrance.
Sick dude hell yeah

You can't control guns unless you control the border, duh

Trump might actually be onto something with his wall idea, and considering how he has no real political ideology or consistency, he and go full gun control to disrupt Clinton's campaign strategy and to appeal to the democrat voters he needs to win the presidency

The religion of peace will kill/rape/burn worldwide with or without guns

How did Paris turn out? You idiots. You think guns will just disappear from the planet? Seriously, cognitive dissonance.

If one person in that night club had a gun and shot him this would be some random news story no one would give a shit about.

ever heard of hammers?

Exactly. Instead it happened within a group of people who usually don't support the right to own weapons. Big Surprise.

FPBP

0 guns were also used in Boston

it was a gun free zone

Mass shootings are orchestrated by the CIA & NCS in order to further the gun control agenda.

OP is a shill, among many others, here for damage control and support of this operation.

If you disagree with me, that's fine, but you are only lying to yourself.

CURRENT YEAR

still thinking this has something to do with guns
ignoring the fact he had a suicide bomb vest

0 legal guns were used in Paris

> a murder weapon for self defense

>US culture
>not islamic culture
idiot

True, I agree, but if you restrict access to the means it will limit the damage they can do.

If you look at the UK for example when the same type of person commits to an act of violence, they do it with whatever they can get, which means crudely homemade bombs which don't work most of the time and are likely to attract attention, or a bladed weapon, which means you'll be able to kill at most a handful of people. The most deadly terrorist attack the UK had after 7/7 was individual incidents where one guy gets stabbed.

Of course this isn't applicable to the US since the horse has bolted and it's too late to take away the millions of guns stuffed into every cupboard and safe in millions of households and stores, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't at least try and make it harder for those potential mentalist idealogues to get their hands on deadlier weapons, even if you only saved a small amount of lives don't you have a moral responsibility to do just that?

>UK more violent than US, Europe and South Africa
>2009
>Aussies and gun control
>Still have shooters

>It increasingly looks more and more pathetic to the rest of the world.

Stopped there.

You don't get it, we don't CARE what you foreigncucks think. We never will.

>Why does it keep happening? Why do Americans keep defending their guns?

you answered your first question with your second and the second with your first.

Being from strong, conservative and christian family, I can tell you this is US culture.

Radical Islam and Conservative Christian are very similar. I know a few christians that are celebrating the latest shooting.

The biggest number of these mass shootings happens in USA, of course after all these non-countries, that means a lot

You would expect a country that claims to be leader of the free world to be something that we should all strive to, not look with disgust

because contrary to what you fags talk about on Sup Forums the vast majority of Americans aren't armed in public and a lot of us aren't armed at all.

>UK more violent than US, Europe and South Africa
This is a myth, please stop peddling it.

The US is on average more violent than than the UK. The US and UK definitions of violent crime are wildly different so a direct comparison is stupid.

If you compare the rates of each violent crime, the US 8/10 times is much higher.

Source: US government statistics and UK gov statistics.

Yup, if only this tradigybqould have never happened.

>9/11
>needed only 1 inside job

>It increasingly looks more and more pathetic to the rest of the world.

We don't care

I don't see American blowing themselves up in the name of the constitution.

Fuck off king George. Our country, our rules.

>People who hold differing opinions to myself are retarded
Stop, your making all the sensible people look bad

gays are mostly democrats and aside from 99% of mass shooters democrats don't like guns

it was also a gun free zone.

>orlando gay club
>bunch of liberals
>a gun free zone

easiest target in the world

Brussels and Paris were attacked by Americans huh... makes you think...

nice lie kid

Actually US and UK statistics on murder are significantly different. Lets say you have a bar fight in both countries and bash a guy over the head with a chair. He dies on the way to the hospital after laying on the floor for a few hours. In the US that would be recorded as a murder whereas in the UK that would be considered an accidental death/etc.

Gun free zone. See, the thing about "liberty" is that private citizens are free to make rules on their own private property, as long as it doesn't break government laws. And while the Bill of Rights puts limits on what laws the government can make, it in no way restricts individuals from making their own rules, as long as they don't break the laws the government has made.

That's the biggest difference between US law and the EU's "international law." That's what makes the US free, and the EU a tyrrany pretending to be free.

>don't you have a moral responsibility to do just that?

No, we don't have a moral responsibility to restrict the rights of tens of millions based on the actions of a few.

Fuck off you cucked euros.

>Brussels and Paris were attacked by Americans huh... makes you think...

Recent attacks in EU are the result of catastrophic policies made by EU leaders which are US puppets.

Before these mudslime imports EU was much more peaceful than USA

What the fuck happened in 2001-2003?

The club was a gun free zone idk how this happened

I see you are catching on the the plan, nigel

>serbia
>peaceful
holy shit actually kill yourself

Source? And how many cases of this happening truly impact the stats? This only affects murder though, not the rest of violent crimes like robbery, assault, etc.

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Lets see, it was a gay bar that was attacked. Which means that can legally be concealed and or open carried are dicks. And lo and behold, another gun-free zone was targeted and attacked.

Using the colloquial definition of "spree shooting" (targeted attack on a public place), there are roughly 30 fatalities in the average year.

Using the FBI definiton (any shooting event involving 4+ fatalities) there are something in the ballpark of 120.

Either way, it's statistical noise. A complete non-issue in a nation of 320,000,000 people.
On average there are 9022 firearm homicides per year in the US (mostly gang shootings and has been decreasing over time)

A conservative estimate on the number of firearms in the US is 310,000,000(probably many more due to no registry and buying multiple guns on one background check+millions of guns bought before background checks were made a law)

9022/310,000,000 *100 = .003% of guns are used in murders, or, for every gun used in a murder, there are 33,000+ that are not

.003% is the estimate with current crime stat averages and a conservative estimate on the number of guns

It is most likely lower but I cannot prove it because I cannot prove how many guns there are.

Some estimates assume there are 700,000,000+ guns in the US which would cut the .003% in half.
www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32842.pdf

nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2013/firearm-safety-in-america-2013.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states
Source on homicide numbers

fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls

Quiet down britbong you can't buy a kitchen knife from the store without being fingerprinted.

Something about a doctor killing tons of his patients or some shit

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So your right to your toys is more important than people's actual lives.

How can you not see this is extremist ideology? Think about it more practically.

>cuck
Really? Sad.

That's OK britcuck, I will always enjoy a higher level of personal liberty than you ever will.

In fact we are peaceful now

There isn't one single part of the Belgrade where i can't walk even in 3am and not feel safe. Can you say that for Washington?

Listen you fucking turbo-cuck. There are certain inalienable human rights that American citizens believe in such as:

Freedom of speech
The Right to Self-Defense

We know that these things don't exist in cuck-countries, but then again there is a reason why USA is #1 and you are drowning in your own shit.

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Reminder Karl Marx was against gun control

We don't have a gun problem. We have a nigger and Muslim problem

>be American
>get shot by Muslim terrorists

he was against gun control before the revolution

our revolutionary communist party (PSTU) is also against gun control.... until they take over, and declare that since "the people" are in power they don't need guns anymore.

well, it's harder to get some black market AK than purchasing them at walmart. The guy in the thalys had his AK malfunctioning, imagine if he had some top quality American goods.

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>Be faggot American
>Go to gay bar
>Get killed by snackbar
fify

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"Source" is libspeak for "I don't need YOUR facts, I already have the facts I like!"

For example, the number of homicides by gun went down, for the reasons the gun-grabbers keep presenting. The fact that the number of homicides by non-gun weapons actually increased by an order of magnitude, more than doubling the number of violent deaths, is an inconvenient truth they drown out with incohetent screaming, demands for bans on knives and pointy sticks, etc.

I'm not sure how pointing out the banal truth that most people who die aren't murdered is supposed to make it acceptable, especially when compared to other western nations murder rates.

You're basically being that guy who says "THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DYING IN AFRICA THEREFORE EVERYTHING ELSE ISN'T IMPORTANT"

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I don't subscribe to a socialist group punishment theory and as I am a lawabiding tax payer I have yet to be convinced why my guns are a danger to anyone but deer, paper targets and violent criminals who might harm me.

You dont even have freedom to roam

nonwhites are the problem

ITS THIS

EVERYTIME I REMIND PEOPLE ITS THIS.

ALL THE DAYLIGHT SHOOTINGS IN MY CITY ARE DONE BY BLACKS.

I WONT LOSE MY RIGHTS CAUSE THEY CANT HANDLE THEIRS.

>"Source" is libspeak for "I don't need YOUR facts, I already have the facts I like!"

are you retarded

kill yourself limey nigger

Unlike you faggots a lot of us don't see a need to ban something based on madmen misusing a fraction of a percent of it.

Firearms are used for defense many more times for defensive purposes than criminal purposes.

and the number of rifles used to kill peopel a year is under 300.

How about we actually look at the rtoot causes of the problems instead of the tools being used?

>hurr there are 500,000,000 hammers in the US!
>well some people kill people with hammers
>Ban hammers!
>you have an obligation to ban hammers no matter how few people they kill!
>just one life!


>hammers kill more people than AR15s

I'll enjoy a much higher level of development liberty and quality of life than you, and actually prosper from it. But hey, as long as da dayum gubberment aren't doing anything you're better off for it, right? :^)

> be a britcuck
> cucked in my own capitol city
> have my women raped
> have my friends beheaded in the streets
> be prosecuted for defending myself with a butterknife.
Teehee

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"We would like to congratulate the gay community on their overwhelming victory today." -Justin Trudeu

Sometimes I think that mass shootings were a kike false flag attack

>Listen you fucking turbo-cuck.
>cuck
Stopped reading here, anyone who uses this word is probably under 21 and has never read any political science at an academic level. Not worth reading your post desu when it starts with that kind of tone

>being safe
god fuck you it is no ones responsibility to ensure safety. buy a gun or dont buy a gun but the rest of the world laughs at you for being so cucked by such an invasive government. its not the guns people are defending its giving up freedom, which people are sick of doing and you eurofags fucking love to do it. why would anyone WANT to not be able to purchase a firearm? it doesnt mean you need to own one and use it on an innocent person. it doesnt make sense.

Nah they shot a security guard.

haha you've truly convinced me with this unbiased and witty comic, I bet this happens all the time haha

>especially when compared to other western nations murder rates.

outside of black ghettos the US is has literally the same rate as canada and we don't care, you are not going to convince us to give up our rights and property because of a minute amount of misuse and your feelings.

Firearms are much more useful than your feelings.

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No arguments, just raw shitpost.

Why do anti-gunners only focus on mass shootings to support their argument? There are FAR more people killed by guns every year in good old-fashioned murder than there are killed in mass shootings.

Hit a nerve did he?

you can bet we're going to take action as opposed to just placing some candles down like you pansy eurotards do every time a terrorist attack happens.

instead of fighting back and preventing another attack you apologize for the poor oppressed muslims who were forced to shoot your citizens because they didn't live lifestyles the muzzies approved of.

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>Get asked to back your opinion with evidence
>"Fucking libcucks and their stupid libspeak I don't need to provide evidence all of academia is cucked like you anyway so I can't prove anything but i'm right anyway you cuck"

I'll take a random mass shooting over having to provide an I.D. to buy a god damn spoon.

Plus it was an act of extreme Islam. How does it happen in Europe if guns are banned?

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