>tfw anything beyond level 4 scares me
Tfw anything beyond level 4 scares me
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Add Villeneuve to Level 1.5
just do it, pussy
I'm not sure why Parajanov is so low, he's not difficult to watch at all and you can find his stuff without Karagarga.
Coney Island Psychoanalytic Society is interesting but it's not inaccessibly weird at all.
>Brakhage
>challenger infinity level deep
how are his movies not extremely inaccessible?
>tfw never even heard of Courant or most of the true patrician directors
What films are some of these guys renowned for? They sound kind of interesting but I don't know where to start with them.
You should start by not trusting blindly on a meme image
he's more like level 2 desu
Tarko/v/sky, Refnddit, Chan-gook Park should be higher than Bay
Courant is popular for making Cinematon, which is not worth watching, it's there to troll plebs.
The other are experimental (mostly) short film directors which are not so bad, you can find a lot of their stuff on yt. No idea who PMA Aziz is.
Snyder too hight
Seeing as this is the de facto /film/ thread, has anyone else revised their views on films recently?
I thought Cache (Haneke, 2005) was overrated gloomy whining but then I read about the Algerian war and both sides torturing each other and I realized the film wasnt so bad
Just a reminder that more complex/abstract doesn't mean good
they're just visuals meant to evoke emotion. It's about as simple and raw as cinema gets.
sure plebs will hate it because its not entertainment but it's not difficult at all
Brakhage and Rivette's films are very enjoyable, Warhol is accessible as long as you don't watch his longer work like Empire
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pure czechoslovak kino
I don't, I just thought it was interesting I had never heard of them.
>they're just visuals meant to evoke emotion
that's what make them so freaking innacessible, retard
how many people do you know that are willing to sit and watch soundless abstract sequences of paint on film with no plot, characters or discernible thematic? brakhage is extremely innacessible even if simple
Somebody should remake this chart to not include foreign directors as inaccessible just because they are foreign. Almost no director is inaccessible nowadays in terms of literal difficulty of obtaining the work because everything is on the internet, but that's like half of the criteria for this chart
why is Dreyer so high?
>this is the de facto /film/ thread
hehe
yes Chantal Akerman's toute une nuit. I didn't like it at first but recently rediscovered it after reading some Barthes
it's not that they're difficult to obtain (that's also a factor), but they tend to be less discussed. anything beyond north america and western europe tends to go unnoticed by the rest of the world with a few exceptions.
why the fuck is elia kazan so low?
>mfw these plebs have probably never watched a film by 佐藤寿保 [Hisayasu Sato], Rafael Corkidi, 小川紳介 [Shinsuke Ogawa], Alain Fleischer, Bill Gunn, 吴文光 [Wu Wenguang], András Jeles or Franco Brocani
>Refn
>That deep
I get that this is a joke and all but...
>Asian films
Let me guess, half of them make sad romances and the other half makes torture porn and calls it a thoughtful exploration right?
>Coney Island Psychoanalytic Society is interesting but it's not inaccessibly weird at all.
have a normie watch their stuff
Benning higher than Jarmush? Noe lower than Pasolini and Fassbinder? Schroeter than Breillat and Grandieux? that's a load of shit
Here, have some obscure shit to add to your list
>Nolan
>Tarantino
>Not at least level 4
top zoz contrarian pleb detected
no you fucking mongol, one makes beautiful village documentaries and the other one makes documentaries against the government and other industries
The chart isn't an indicator of quality. It's an indicator of how digestable someone is to the average movie goer. Most normal people are bored by shit like Valhalla Rising, OFG, and anything that isn't in English.
>michael snow in level ~
>not level 4
what the fuck?
Literal bullshit below level 3.5
hapas are gross. Why has mainland chinese cinema (aka not HK, TW) died off? the last good film I can recall was Beijing Bicycle
Is censorship really that powerful?
Snyder is at level 4 you fucking autist
I enjoy the lowest levels and technically YTP would be far beyond the lowest levels and people watch that all the time,
>Dreyer
>Griffith
>Haneke
>Fellini
>Bergman
>Eisenstein
>Godard
>Varda
>Cocteau
>Fassbinder
>Kar-Wai
>Tarkovsky
>Pasolini
>bullshit
>le "beautiful" camera shots with movies that have no plots and shit substance and are mostly seen by stoners or people who are high
yes, shit. absolute shit. They represent how degenerate the culture has become because their movies carry no semblance of a proper story or design, but are just for the "feels".
Literally made for your average druggie zonked out of his mind.
wong kar wai is a gargantuan hack. haneke went to shit after das schloß. pasolini, fassbinder, barda, bergman and griffith were highly inconsistent.
>no plots and shit substance
you are a retard
I love how you think """""""plot""""""""" hass exceptionally more """""""substance""""""" than """"""""""feels""""""""""
>this whole post
Kill yourself, retard
>YTP
what's this?
>its a plot plebeian angry that film is a visual medium
Do you need a storybook when you go to an art exhibition you poor soul?
He isn't. He didn't.
And while I agree with the other four- and that doesn't make them very important- to call Bergman 'highly inconsistent' is pure insanity
>a storyline is no better than lack of one
lmao@u
u first
hello, retard.
youtube poop
##76998502
Epic. The children of capeshit
the point of my post was that
>all the filmmakers I listed have incredible stories in their films
>but the story is the least important aspect because the substance is all held in the cinematic construction of the films
lol fuck off kid
Jarmusch is mentioned twice
This desu
what have you even seen by those filmmakers?
that's like putting the cart before the horse.
"le cinematic shots" don'tmatter on their own, thye need a proper sotry for context.
@76998771
Incorrect and infantile. Btw replying like this is nostalgic
>thye need a proper sotry
no they just need context, not a story
fucking retarded pleb
@76998794
epic
>a context can be different from a story
omg
>Bay is above the water
my sides
Is Solondz and Soderbergh really that less accessible than Innaritu ?
Sorry. I meant more accessible.
Daily reminder that film is the most plebian artform
I watched Alphaville with a girl and she fell asleep
what about games?
>he has never been able to experience the joy of enjoying a malick movie
:'(
This chart was created before 2014
>art
Very mean
games can be art
check out Dark Souls
PMA Azeez is pleb central. You just found a name you think nobody heard of and put him at the bottom, just to make yourself look "cool", to a bunch of no life turbo plebs on a Cambodian sweater knitting board. Have sex and kys.
>Level 5: Pacing as we know it is thrown out the window. Character development and plot progression may be done in a way not readily understandable in normal film terms.
This just makes it sound like they're poorly made films by amateur directors who have no clue what they're doing.
sup simple simon
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Even so I don't see how the The Death trilogy and Biutiful is less accessible then Soderbergh's less well known movies (Bubble, The Girlfriend Experience, Schizopolis) or Todd Solondz's entire filmography.
solondz isn't really inacessible besides dealing with taboo themes
Duncan jones is level 1 desu
>implying films are anything more than a visual medium
YES, YES THEY ARE.
No they're not. Read a book. From its conception film was a visual only medium. Conventional storytelling only became important when cinema was something you could sell to the masses, but the masses are too stupid to appreciate looking at art for over an hour without having a story to hold their hand.
>tarantino not bove water level
Into the trash the entire image goes
things evolve over time you fucking troglodyte
Degeneration =/= Evolution
the original film makers would probably laugh in your face
>Canada in charge of b8
>visual only medium.
that doesn't mean what you think it does